Board 8 > Would anyone be interested in setting up some multiplayer randomizers?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Hell yeah

I'll definitely be bringing at least one custom AlttP yaml for next time

I'd like to try OoT but even though I do know the game enough that I'm dead certain I could complete it with the help of a tracker, A) Z5Client is currently Windows-Only (Open pull request, but it's not there yet apparently) and B) I could not get Bizhawk running properly for lttp so I have my doubts about getting it working for OoT.

That weekend I'm out but that'll just give me time to practice other games maybe!

I think I want to play through Super Mario 64 next time. How was VVVVVV for the people who tried it out this time?

Lolo_Guru posted...

I think I want to play through Super Mario 64 next time. How was VVVVVV for the people who tried it out this time?

It was normal VVVVVV except you had to wait before doing dungeons

so it's still fun because it's still VVVVVV but also whatever. i guess it's super beginner friendly because the game takes 3 hours max to beat for the first time and this just spaces things out

I will be gone for the 5th unfortunately (the entire week too) so I'll sit the next one out but i'll be in for the one after

If the 5th is bad for a lot of people we can do it a week later too, or earlier. I'm pretty open for the most part

Either of those options would work for me! Week before would be more betterer. (or again I can just sit this one out)

That would put the start of the next async February 26th, roughly a week from now. Alternatively we can do March 12th. I guess we'll see which one has the most people interested. I'm open for either, or even both depending on how availability goes.

1. Robazoid (Subnautica)
2. Robazoid (Minecraft)

The Archipelago discord will start another huge async tomorrow, a 500 world one! There are still generic worlds that are claimable if anyone is interested, though be warned it could easily take a few weeks to get required items for your game. All you need to do is check for an unclaimed world for your game under the Game Options tab, then add your name next to that slot on the Main tab to claim it. They'll post the multiworld link on discord around noon tomorrow and that's where you'll get your download file or the server code or whatever your game needs.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14JkJub3liLG6dqRvf7TtH0JMh3SwqRJXeGFNd0uhb08/

Reg already sent a custom yaml, and is the LttP in slot 10. I broke down and grabbed a generic Subnautica (366) and a Minecraft (Player486). I'll also be doing the Minecraft slot 252 with my friends.

So I just put my name in an unclaimed slot, such as Player484, and I can join?

(note: Just did this as "Lolo")

Yeah, and tomorrow they'll post the link and you can get your file. I think the only other etiquette is to use the name you have on their discord so you can be pinged for hints, so change your nickname to Lolo on the Archipelago discord and you're good.

Okay, I've gotten the zelda games set up. Now I just have to decide between OoT and LttP. It's been quite some time since I played either, anyone have a suggestion which would be smoother to run? I'll probably do one of them and Rogue Legacy again, that was fun.

JeffreyRaze posted...

Okay, I've gotten the zelda games set up. Now I just have to decide between OoT and LttP. It's been quite some time since I played either, anyone have a suggestion which would be smoother to run? I'll probably do one of them and Rogue Legacy again, that was fun.

LttP is significantly shorter (Unless you're a top-tier OoT speedrunner) and thus smoother by definition.

But really, the question is how much time you're willing to invest here. If it's a lot, OoT (or both!) may be a good choice. If it's a more moderate amount of time, then I'd just recommend LttP.

(Also, I am working on a mystery settings yaml for lttp that's restricted only to settings I'm actually interested in playing - I'll post it here when it's done, and will want two seeds rolled using it)

Mobilezoid posted...

That would put the start of the next async February 26th, roughly a week from now. Alternatively we can do March 12th. I guess we'll see which one has the most people interested. I'm open for either, or even both depending on how availability goes.

1. Robazoid (Subnautica)
2. Robazoid (Minecraft)

Put me down for two LttPs both using this yaml: https://pastebin.com/x7Nhgcnv

You'll need to change the name for at least one so that it's not the same on both. I didn't really feel like posting the exact same yaml twice <_<

Put me down for Rogue Legacy and Link to the Past, both using default settings please.

Unless I'm told otherwise, I assume all of you are good with a February 26th start

1. Robazoid (Subnautica)
2. Robazoid (Minecraft)
3. Reg (LttP) Custom yaml
4. Reg (LttP) Custom yaml
5. Ariabolo (Final Fantasy) Custom yaml
6. JeffreyRaze (LttP) Default
7. JeffreyRaze (Rogue Legacy) Default

Small update on the 500 world Archipelago discord async, I have 35/105 in my Minecraft and 57/130 in my Subnautica. For all the stuff I see people passing back and forth to each other (so much stuff that it actually made my Subnautica game crash every ten minutes or so), it's impressive how little is going to me! I have one sword upgrade in Minecraft and a radiation suit in Subnautica and nothing else of note.

On the topic of the 500 world Archipelago discord async, I actually claimed two runs: both the secret of Evermore one I had mentioned before, and one of the LTTPs (player413)

I was sent great spells right away in Evermore; but they had difficult to impossible casting costs (There's only 10 dry ice in the game, total, and two of my spells require multiple of it so I won't be casting those.) I was also sent the Bazooka, so I have a super strong option if necessary whenever. However, I've cleared everything I can without a bladed weapon to cut grass, so it's in the waiting game. 58 checks so far done.

The LTTP, it's going ok. Still swordless at the moment, and I haven't done an enemizer run before, but I've managed a few checks, 47 to be precise, and I found my moon pearl! Either a 2ndglove or a hammer and I can explore a lot of the dark world. ;)

I'm in for next week for OoT. I want to make a few changes to the yaml file, so I'll do that and then get it to you.

Robazoid posted...

Small update on the 500 world Archipelago discord async, I have 35/105 in my Minecraft and 57/130 in my Subnautica. For all the stuff I see people passing back and forth to each other (so much stuff that it actually made my Subnautica game crash every ten minutes or so), it's impressive how little is going to me! I have one sword upgrade in Minecraft and a radiation suit in Subnautica and nothing else of note.

I've been BK'd on my world there basically since it started, and I have enough other things to do that I didn't care to pick up another world

Inverted LttP only has 9 locations in sphere 1, though one of those is a five-item cave and two of those are dungeons. Since I'm playing keysanity on top of that, it comes out to roughly 20 checks before I'm locked out needing any of a Fire Rod, a Thieves' Town or Skull Woods Big Key, a Hammer, Flippers, Gloves or a Flute. Literally nothing else opens any checks for me, and most of those only open up one or two checks.

Meanwhile, I've so far only received a sword and blue mail instead of any of those lmao

This is part of why I'm using the custom yaml instead of just going straight for the Inverted Keys here, too.

In the big async, I got my Minecraft to 45/103 which is pretty damn impressive for basically no unlocks at all. I also got Subnautica to 83/130, which is about all I can do until I get a seaglide at the very least (at which point I can get a full inventory of air tanks and do about ten more)

It's fun watching the items being found by everyone and seeing some familiar names, though! Someone just gave Reg 20 rupees and a progressive glove to Lolo

I have the worst friggin luck with randomizers.

https://i.imgur.com/1eQjUL1.png

All ten of those checks are skulltulas. I'm locked behind 20 skulltulas already.

Woo, I'm up to 48 hours BK'd in the 500 async. Received several items, but none of them progress me.

We're done around 25% of the overall checks after two days, so hopefully you'll get some items soon! My Minecraft world received spyglass overnight, but I can't smelt copper yet so I can't do anything with it.

Robazoid posted...

We're done around 25% of the overall checks after two days, so hopefully you'll get some items soon! My Minecraft world received spyglass overnight, but I can't smelt copper yet so I can't do anything with it.

I received a Palace of Darkness small key and a bottle with a fairy, which I combined to glitch over to that region. Then while I was typing this message I got Gloves, which lets me go to Death Mountain in the dark. Neither in logic, but both are checks.

Any Timespinners players here to know if Aura Serpent is progression or just convenience? That was the only thing of note I found, I think.

(Update: Turned my gloves into somebody's OoT strength upgrade on the last possible check before BK again there lmao)

(I could probably do a bit more if I were willing to major glitch around but I don't feel like learning those for this)

Still hard-locked behind the 11 weapons that can cut grass in the first evermore. Just need one and I can get started (heck, I can shoot into space already if I had that!)

Took a second evermore; done most of what I can until a second diamond eye shows up (though the bronze axe or Levitate would give me some checks to do). Only checks I'm neglecting on it are some third area bosses I could technically but not actually beat, having no spells I can easily cast.

LTTP; got the Magic Cape so I could do one more check. I don't have a bug net so I can't fake flippers to PoD. Still in need of a lot of things: Flute, Mirrror, Hammer, Swords (still swordless right now), flippers... I managed to clear out Kholdstare in Molderm's arena at tower of hera with the Fire rod, double magic, and a green potion, so I'm one crystal down... but the goal for this seed is the pedestal, I think.

Lolo_Guru posted...

but the goal for this seed is the pedestal, I think.

You should be able to confirm that at the Pyramid, with the sign near the top of it. I don't think AP is different than the main rando in that regard.

I was in my 500 async Minecraft when I saw that Reg was finally sent a Hammer! Hope that opens some stuff up for you. As for next week:

1. Robazoid (Subnautica)
2. Robazoid (Minecraft)
3. Reg (LttP) Custom yaml
4. Reg (LttP) Custom yaml
5. Ariabolo (Final Fantasy) Custom yaml
6. JeffreyRaze (LttP) Default
7. JeffreyRaze (Rogue Legacy) Default
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8. Mewtwo59 (Ocarina of Time) awaiting yaml

Robazoid posted...

I was in my 500 async Minecraft when I saw that Reg was finally sent a Hammer! Hope that opens some stuff up for you. As for next week:

Two checks! Spike Cave and Catfish.

Would've been pyramid ledge and a few in Palace of Darkness if I didn't burn my bottled fairy to cheese my way over there earlier.

Moon Pearl gives me light world though, so that'll be a good number of checks.

I gave in and hinted my moon pearl in the large async since that's basically the only thing that would let me play the game for more than like 10 minutes at this point.

It's in somebody else's Cave 45 and while they have their mirror (Which is usually the bottleneck for that location!) they also do not have their moon pearl. Or gloves. Or lamp + swords/cape to kill Agahnim with. Also they haven't been around in over 24 hours

This is gonna be a while

Yeah, my laser cutters in Subnautica and brewing in Minecraft (which is all I technically need to win at this point) both look a long way off. The big asyncs are neat, but there's often lots of waiting.

That's why I enjoy the smaller ones we do here more!

Mobilezoid posted...

That's why I enjoy the smaller ones we do here more!

Definitely agree with this. My first thought was because I only have one seed, but my second thought was that if I did have more seeds, I'd get to play more often, but it'd become a pain in the ass to keep track of them all. I'd probably strongly consider taking notes lol

Okay, I eventually got back to OoT, got the 20 skulltulas, got the slingshot, and that didn't get me anything. I was very confused, and looked over the default settings. Turns out the door of time being open at the start of the game is a default setting and I wasted a lot of time.

I'm considering a real dumb thing here

I got SM64 working. I'm considering dropping one of my LttPs here for a default SM64 even though I haven't played that game in many, many years.

SM64 doesn't require mastery of the game, I don't think. Especially not in an async where you won't need to keep up with anyone else. As long as you can beat Bowser once you've found or received 70 stars, you should be good!

Right, I'm just more concerned with the speed of it

A 120 star SM64 would likely be a 10ish hour affair for me, off the top of my head. Probably down to 8 if you cut the 100 coin stars? Meanwhile lttp rando is 2 hours under the worst settings/layouts as long as I avoid entrance shuffles, and the yaml I gave will tend faster because of random goal (Ped, Triforce Hunt, Fast Ganon all tend faster than the usual goal) and semi-random GT/Ganon crystal requirements (These will skew towards 7 because they have a 1/3 chance of being locked there in addition to the random possibly rolling 7 anyways, but still random-ish)

Also if we're starting on Saturday, I'm rather busy on that particular day so I can't just sit down and play Mario all day where I will have time to go through and at least knock out the LttP early games. I could possibly do something like that Sunday though.

giving FF1 super easy settings (except for randomizing the map, which was silly) allowed me to do decently with it despite never having beaten vanilla!

Reg posted...

Right, I'm just more concerned with the speed of it

A 120 star SM64 would likely be a 10ish hour affair for me, off the top of my head. Probably down to 8 if you cut the 100 coin stars? Meanwhile lttp rando is 2 hours under the worst settings/layouts as long as I avoid entrance shuffles, and the yaml I gave will tend faster because of random goal (Ped, Triforce Hunt, Fast Ganon all tend faster than the usual goal) and semi-random GT/Ganon crystal requirements (These will skew towards 7 because they have a 1/3 chance of being locked there in addition to the random possibly rolling 7 anyways, but still random-ish)

Also if we're starting on Saturday, I'm rather busy on that particular day so I can't just sit down and play Mario all day where I will have time to go through and at least knock out the LttP early games. I could possibly do something like that Sunday though.

why would you go for 120 stars

NFUN posted...

why would you go for 120 stars

The presumption that I'll need to (or at least be able to) check most of the game looking for items for others before receiving 70 and the keys to clear the game.

Obviously that's a worst-case.

I'll actually be around early Saturday this time so I should get a bunch of Minecraft/Subnautica checks right away. Hopefully that would save you from needing to get all the stars

Alright, sure, let's do it if you guys are confident in it

Swap one of my lttp for an SM64 with 100 coin stars disabled.

My brother wants two games again too, though he's still deciding on the second one.

1. Robazoid (Subnautica)
2. Robazoid (Minecraft)
3. Reg (LttP) Custom yaml
4. Reg (SM64) 100 coin disabled
5. Ariabolo (Final Fantasy) Custom yaml
6. JeffreyRaze (LttP) Default
7. JeffreyRaze (Rogue Legacy) Default
8. Razenclaf (LttP) Triforce hunt
9. Razenclaf (Timespinners or Rogue Legacy)
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10. Mewtwo59 (Ocarina of Time) awaiting yaml

Sign me up for Super Metroid. Default settings are good for this first go-round

Secret of Evermore:
difficulty: mystery
money_modifier: 150
exp_modifier: 150
fix_sequence: 'true'
fix_cheats: 'true'
fix_infinite_ammo: 'false'
fix_atlas_glitch: 'true'
fix_wings_glitch: 'true'
shorter_dialogs: 'false'
short_boss_rush: 'false'
ingredienizer: full
sniffamizer: full
callbeadamizer: random
musicmizer: 'false'
doggomizer: off
turdo_mode: 'false'
progression_balancing: random
accessibility: random
description: 'Generated by https://archipelago.gg/'
game: Secret of Evermore
name: LoloGuru

yaml for the Secret of Evermore I'll do for the weekend one. Will likely add at least one more run on top of that.

1. Robazoid (Subnautica)
2. Robazoid (Minecraft)
3. Reg (LttP) Custom yaml
4. Reg (SM64) 100 coin disabled
5. Ariabolo (Final Fantasy) Custom yaml
6. JeffreyRaze (LttP) Default
7. JeffreyRaze (Rogue Legacy) Default
8. Razenclaf (LttP) Triforce hunt
9. Razenclaf (Timespinners or Rogue Legacy)
10. Mewtwo59 (Ocarina of Time) Custom yaml
11. HBJDubs (Super Metroid) Default
12. LoloGuru (Secret of Evermore) Custom yaml

I think I've changed my mind on doing multiple; as I'll still have multiple runs in the current massive multiworld this weekend, likely.

I'll generate the multiworld in about 24 hours!

Lolo_Guru posted...

I think I've changed my mind on doing multiple; as I'll still have multiple runs in the current massive multiworld this weekend, likely.

I'm not too concerned about that tbh. I've seen multiple people in the discord expressing shock at how fast it's moving and how it usually takes about a month. Taking a couple days away from it (by choice or by being BK-forced into it) is no big deal imo

Slay the Spire:
character: random
ascension: 5
heart_run: 'true'
progression_balancing: 'true'
accessibility: items
description: 'Generated by https://archipelago.gg/'
game: Slay the Spire
name: LoloGuru

I'll add this too, then. And think about a third.

I doubt that anybody cares except me about this

But some absolutely brilliant madman fixed Retroarch so that it can connect to SNI using the bsnes-mercury Retroarch core. This will be in the next RetroArch release which will probably within the next few weeks at most, but I decided to compile it myself so I could get it immediately.

It doesn't mean that much, except that I don't have to use a separate snes9x that I didn't really care for compared to my Retroarch setup that I'd been using for years (Except I still need to keep it around for the large async because of save file incompatibilities LOL) so I'm really really happy about this.

Since I'm not rushing to an airport this time, I followed Lolo's suggestion from last time and made a discord server for this. Right now there's a channel for uploading yamls and another for hints. Joining isn't required, obviously, but it might be nice to have a spot outside the topic for us to chat! Feel free to join even if you aren't participating in this specific async, too.

https://discord.gg/24cWfeAF

I'm starting to gather the yaml's for tomorrow and I hope everyone is okay with me adding to some names because two files can't have the exact same name. Reg and Reg64, JeffreyRaze and JeffreyRazeR, LoloGuru and Lolo_Guru. To spice things up, I also added five bee traps to my RobaCraft yaml! If you send me a bee trap you can feel free to laugh at my misfortune.