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kevwaffles 12/05/21 3:46:08 PM #202:	I did watch (or technically listen to) the special and gave him the benefit of the doubt on being extremely ignorant over purposely hurtful. Everything he's said since indicates that even if that were actually true (and I no longer believe that) at the very least he doesn't give a shit about how he affects anyone besides himself. So fuck him. But calling people out for lack of empathy when they're clearly hurting is just ridiculous regardless of your opinion on the man. Even if you disagree with why they're hurting. It's not just grotesque, it's moronic. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:960647337] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>I did watch (or technically listen to) the special and gave him the benefit of the doubt on being extremely ignorant over purposely hurtful. Everything he's said since indicates that even if that were actually true (and I no longer believe that) at the very least he doesn't give a shit about how he affects anyone besides himself. So fuck him. But calling people out for lack of empathy when they're clearly hurting is just ridiculous regardless of your opinion on the man. Even if you disagree with why they're hurting. It's not just grotesque, it's moronic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/05/21 3:48:29 PM #203:	masterplum posted... I think puns is wrong but raging at him is scientifically the best way to ensure he doubles down and never changes his opinion. I was at one point fairly anti Trans before having a long conversation with someone who changed genders and I thought it was enlightening. You never are going to be able to force someone to change their mind, you have to let them be willing. ok how about YOU talk to him for a change, we're tired <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:960647406] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>I think puns is wrong but raging at him is scientifically the best way to ensure he doubles down and never changes his opinion. I was at one point fairly anti Trans before having a long conversation with someone who changed genders and I thought it was enlightening. You never are going to be able to force someone to change their mind, you have to let them be willing.</quote>ok how about YOU talk to him for a change, we're tired </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Comedy101 12/05/21 3:54:27 PM #204:	GuessMyUserName posted... holy fucking shit you have to absolutely be fucking kidding me with this absolute peak irony of a trash take you've been told very fucking detailed explanations about this shit, personal god damn fucking experiences explaining the damage caused, and WE'RE the ones lacking empathy of the god damn clueless millionaire stomping into shit he doesn't understand I've put in so much god damn work trying to hold your hand through this dialogue that you're evidently way too lazy to actually bother listening to over your selfish need to worship an old washed-up celebrity who doesn't give a single shit about the words he's using to the point he's straight-up just marketing off of his ignorance now. *LISTEN TO THE THE FUCKING VOICES OF PEOPLE UNDER FIRE. DO NOT* TALK SHIT ABOUT EMPATHY OF ALL THINGS WITHOUT PUTTING THE BARE FUCKING MINIMUM INTO THE CONVERSATION.** Do you not realize how god damn maddening it is to be repeatedly told I'm the one missing context here? There's nobody more god damn conscious of this dialogue going on, and I've listened to plenty of in-depth coverage from voices both cis and trans, black and white on these issues not to mention my own god damn experiences I've simply wasted in thinking you were a good faith actor. At this point it god damn pisses me off to see such absolute wilful ignorance as yours waving away any criticism as just not getting it and now to this utterly ridiculous one-sided notion that we're the ones lacking empathy for being pissed off at straight-up anti-trans talking points belted out under the veil of "jokes". Trans voices are carefully crafting their nuanced criticisms while constantly giving the utmost leeway, accepting the fact that many people are just plain ignorant, and knowing we have to treat people with baby gloves to get it. To just fucking piss over the eggshells we gotta tiptoe around - with trans voices STILL getting the most vile hatred thrown at them by stans who don't bother to listen - is when I give up and tell you to go absolutely fuck yourself. Spend a god damn fucking hour in the realm of trans discourse and look at the shit we have to put up before you dare show off the absolute gall to complain we're the ones who don't get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voiivxS3X3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I07KNjNb1vE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiJQV378F5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDxv9yMNZow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S42DJr95Dfw Never again track your muddy-ass boots into a conversation over bigotry if you can't actually address the plentiful voices for well-examined and nuanced concern going on unless you wanna keep showing your ass over and over again. Always funny to see people thinking that unsourced amateur youtube videos from a very clearly biased source (drumming out outrage culture for clicks) serve as ANY kind of valid argument <cite>Comedy101 posted [p:960647590] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>GuessMyUserName posted... </cite> <quote>holy fucking shit you have to absolutely be fucking kidding me with this absolute peak irony of a trash take you've been told very fucking detailed explanations about this shit, personal god damn fucking experiences explaining the damage caused, and WE'RE the ones lacking empathy of the god damn clueless millionaire stomping into shit he doesn't understand I've put in so much god damn work trying to hold your hand through this dialogue that you're evidently way too lazy to actually bother listening to over your selfish need to worship an old washed-up celebrity who doesn't give a single shit about the words he's using to the point he's straight-up just marketing off of his ignorance now. LISTEN TO THE THE FUCKING VOICES OF PEOPLE UNDER FIRE. DO NOT TALK SHIT ABOUT EMPATHY OF ALL THINGS WITHOUT PUTTING THE BARE FUCKING MINIMUM INTO THE CONVERSATION. Do you not realize how god damn maddening it is to be repeatedly told I'm the one missing context here? There's nobody more god damn conscious of this dialogue going on, and I've listened to plenty of in-depth coverage from voices both cis and trans, black and white on these issues not to mention my own god damn experiences I've simply wasted in thinking you were a good faith actor. At this point it god damn pisses me off to see such absolute wilful ignorance as yours waving away any criticism as just not getting it and now to this utterly ridiculous one-sided notion that we're the ones lacking empathy for being pissed off at straight-up anti-trans talking points belted out under the veil of "jokes". Trans voices are carefully crafting their nuanced criticisms while constantly giving the utmost leeway, accepting the fact that many people are just plain ignorant, and knowing we have to treat people with baby gloves to get it. To just fucking piss over the eggshells we gotta tiptoe around - with trans voices STILL getting the most vile hatred thrown at them by stans who don't bother to listen - is when I give up and tell you to go absolutely fuck yourself. Spend a god damn fucking hour in the realm of trans discourse and look at the shit we have to put up before you dare show off the absolute gall to complain we're the ones who don't get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voiivxS3X3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I07KNjNb1vE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiJQV378F5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDxv9yMNZow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S42DJr95Dfw Never again track your muddy-ass boots into a conversation over bigotry if you can't actually address the plentiful voices for well-examined and nuanced concern going on unless you wanna keep showing your ass over and over again.</quote>Always funny to see people thinking that unsourced amateur youtube videos from a very clearly biased source (drumming out outrage culture for clicks) serve as ANY kind of valid argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/05/21 3:55:42 PM #205:	Mr Lasastryke posted... one article is meaningless anecdotal evidence. https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/519093/ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds/amp https://research.com/education/why-facts-dont-change-our-mind https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-well/201812/why-many-people-stubbornly-refuse-change-their-minds?amp --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:960647630] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted... </cite> <quote>one article is meaningless anecdotal evidence.</quote> https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/519093/ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds/amp https://research.com/education/why-facts-dont-change-our-mind https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-well/201812/why-many-people-stubbornly-refuse-change-their-minds?amp </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 12/05/21 3:55:59 PM #206:	Comedy101 posted... Always funny to see people thinking that unsourced amateur youtube videos from a very clearly biased source (drumming out outrage culture for clicks) serve as ANY kind of valid argument i see enough people blocked your main --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:960647638] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Comedy101 posted... </cite> <quote>Always funny to see people thinking that unsourced amateur youtube videos from a very clearly biased source (drumming out outrage culture for clicks) serve as ANY kind of valid argument</quote>i see enough people blocked your main </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 12/05/21 3:57:20 PM #207:	Whose alt --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:960647677] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Whose alt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 12/05/21 3:58:31 PM #208:	StealThisSheen posted... Whose alt crusader101, presumably --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:960647713] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>Whose alt</quote>crusader101, presumably </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 12/05/21 3:59:05 PM #209:	who the fuck is crusader101 lol --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:960647728] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>who the fuck is crusader101 lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/05/21 4:01:01 PM #210:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/519093/ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds/amp https://research.com/education/why-facts-dont-change-our-mind https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-well/201812/why-many-people-stubbornly-refuse-change-their-minds?amp is that first article even written by a scientist? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:960647783] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/519093/ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds/amp https://research.com/education/why-facts-dont-change-our-mind https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-well/201812/why-many-people-stubbornly-refuse-change-their-minds?amp</quote> is that first article even written by a scientist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 12/05/21 4:01:05 PM #211:	DoomTheGyarados posted... who the fuck is crusader101 lol --- https://m.twitch.tv/sorozone/profile <cite>Sorozone posted [p:960647785] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted... </cite> <quote>who the fuck is crusader101 lol</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 12/05/21 4:01:41 PM #212:	I'm totally accepting of the idea yelling at someone instead of carefully explaining the issues can lead to radicalization instead of understanding. But I personally already tried treating him with good faith and turbopuns has absolutely betrayed that by handwaving it all away as a "lack of empathy" and "being white". Without addressing any of the actual bloody criticism. Go read turbopuns again, for someone who "wrote with pen and paper for forty minutes venting" he doesn't mention a single piece of any of the criticism. He says he's seen "reaction videos" and the only commentary he provides is not any of the points he's come across, but just some weak observation that the people he watched were white, when you very well COULD try listening to some black voices on the subject if you actually wanted to. If you're not going to address a single piece of criticism (ie the dumb alt just now thinking an empty one-liner negates all criticism) then there's no saving you. If you not only don't address any criticism while also being an inflammatory jackass then people are going to bite back. --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:960647806] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>I'm totally accepting of the idea yelling at someone instead of carefully explaining the issues can lead to radicalization instead of understanding. But I personally already tried treating him with good faith and turbopuns has absolutely betrayed that by handwaving it all away as a "lack of empathy" and "being white". Without addressing any of the actual bloody criticism. Go read turbopuns again, for someone who "wrote with pen and paper for forty minutes venting" he doesn't mention a single piece of any of the criticism. He says he's seen "reaction videos" and the only commentary he provides is not any of the points he's come across, but just some weak observation that the people he watched were white, when you very well COULD try listening to some black voices on the subject if you actually wanted to. If you're not going to address a single piece of criticism (ie the dumb alt just now thinking an empty one-liner negates all criticism) then there's no saving you. If you not only don't address any criticism while also being an inflammatory jackass then people are going to bite back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 12/05/21 4:01:43 PM #213:	Oh, some troll from the politics board --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:960647807] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Oh, some troll from the politics board </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 12/05/21 4:02:15 PM #214:	DoomTheGyarados posted... who the fuck is crusader101 lol ulti 2 --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:960647828] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted... </cite> <quote>who the fuck is crusader101 lol</quote>ulti 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 12/05/21 4:06:41 PM #215:	turbopuns3 posted... My take on the Chappelle special, which I've since watched from start to finish, is that the majority of people offended by it lack a sufficient amount of empathy for Dave Chappelle as a person (as a comedian, as a black man, as someone who's experienced a person they know taking their own life) to even see his perspective when he's talking. Dave Chapelle lacks empathy for the people who he's harmed. Specifically, the trans community. He isn't willing to listen. So he doesn't get or deserve empathy on this. I really don't care what he's faced. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:960647945] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>turbopuns3 posted... </cite> <quote>My take on the Chappelle special, which I've since watched from start to finish, is that the majority of people offended by it lack a sufficient amount of empathy for Dave Chappelle as a person (as a comedian, as a black man, as someone who's experienced a person they know taking their own life) to even see his perspective when he's talking.</quote> Dave Chapelle lacks empathy for the people who he's harmed. Specifically, the trans community. He isn't willing to listen. So he doesn't get or deserve empathy on this. I really don't care what he's faced. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/05/21 4:08:07 PM #216:	Mr Lasastryke posted... is that first article even written by a scientist? Are you refusing to change your mind (or even consider it) in the face of evidence? Interesting. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:960647979] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted... </cite> <quote>is that first article even written by a scientist?</quote> Are you refusing to change your mind (or even consider it) in the face of evidence? Interesting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/05/21 4:08:30 PM #217:	never ignored a user so fast in my life <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:960647993] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>never ignored a user so fast in my life </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 12/05/21 4:08:50 PM #218:	I mean Plum is for sure right about the actual thing happening. It's merit is the debate point. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:960648007] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>I mean Plum is for sure right about the actual thing happening. It's merit is the debate point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/05/21 4:12:52 PM #219:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Are you refusing to change your mind (or even consider it) in the face of evidence? Interesting. are you being condescending while trying to change my mind? that's very counter-productive, according to your own stance. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:960648129] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Are you refusing to change your mind (or even consider it) in the face of evidence? Interesting.</quote> are you being condescending while trying to change my mind? that's very counter-productive, according to your own stance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 12/05/21 4:13:08 PM #220:	Yeah, Plum's right. The thing is it's not worth trying to change puns's mind because we already tried that and he's just sorta spit in our faces. The first time I thought it was just him being blinded by celebrity worship, but at this point it seems like his argument is coming from his own bigotry. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:960648141] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Plum's right. The thing is it's not worth trying to change puns's mind because we already tried that and he's just sorta spit in our faces. The first time I thought it was just him being blinded by celebrity worship, but at this point it seems like his argument is coming from his own bigotry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 12/05/21 4:22:44 PM #221:	StealThisSheen posted... Yeah, Plum's right. The thing is it's not worth trying to change puns's mind because we already tried that and he's just sorta spit in our faces. The first time I thought it was just him being blinded by celebrity worship, but at this point it seems like his argument is coming from his own bigotry. Yeah, my point is not "being understanding and supportive will change puns mind" There is no guarantee that will happen and hell, it's not your obligation to change his mind even if it would absolutely work. My point is that yelling about how much of a bigot he is is at best a gigantic waste of time and energy you could be spending doing absolutely anything else, and at worst actually makes him more of a bigot. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:960648488] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, Plum's right. The thing is it's not worth trying to change puns's mind because we already tried that and he's just sorta spit in our faces. The first time I thought it was just him being blinded by celebrity worship, but at this point it seems like his argument is coming from his own bigotry.</quote> Yeah, my point is not "being understanding and supportive will change puns mind" There is no guarantee that will happen and hell, it's not your obligation to change his mind even if it would absolutely work. My point is that yelling about how much of a bigot he is is at best a gigantic waste of time and energy you could be spending doing absolutely anything else, and at worst actually makes him more of a bigot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/05/21 4:25:03 PM #222:	masterplum posted... My point is that yelling about how much of a bigot he is is at best a gigantic waste of time and energy you could be spending doing absolutely anything else, and at worst actually makes him more of a bigot. maybe it's cathartic for us <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:960648537] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote> My point is that yelling about how much of a bigot he is is at best a gigantic waste of time and energy you could be spending doing absolutely anything else, and at worst actually makes him more of a bigot.</quote>maybe it's cathartic for us </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 12/05/21 4:26:11 PM #223:	StealThisSheen posted... Whose alt And another prime example of weak minds with nothing to offer beyond "cancel culture" crying, when the viewpoints I shared all have incredibly nuanced takes on what is "offensive", ie Kat Blaque's video you'll be surprised she's plenty capable of laughing during specific bits, some while being offensive, but she can still acknowledge everything wrong, and Jessie endlessly putting her heart on her sleeve that she understands where Dave is coming from and believes they could have a productive 1-on-1. Y'know, that "empathy" thing that turbopuns pretends is lacking. It really pisses me off how these nuanced discussions are always just waved away as cancel culture despite all the good faith understanding offered. It's not easy to always give all that leeway to bigotry that harms us just to repeatedly get ignored for waves of dumb reactionary trolls who couldn't be assed to take any of it seriously. And then people wonder why the hell we're mad. masterplum posted... My point is that yelling about how much of a bigot he is is at best a gigantic waste of time and energy you could be spending doing absolutely anything else, and at worst actually makes him more of a bigot. GuessMyUserName posted... "why do you yell at people who adamantly promote bigotry against you" Tired of limp-dicked liberals putting the onus on minorities to stay calm in the face of bigotry when it's our lives at stake. Ignorance is allowed as an excuse for these people to say whatever the fuck inflammatory garbage they want but if we bite back we're the problem. --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:960648563] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>Whose alt</quote> And another prime example of weak minds with nothing to offer beyond "cancel culture" crying, when the viewpoints I shared all have incredibly nuanced takes on what is "offensive", ie Kat Blaque's video you'll be surprised she's plenty capable of laughing during specific bits, some while being offensive, but she can still acknowledge everything wrong, and Jessie endlessly putting her heart on her sleeve that she understands where Dave is coming from and believes they could have a productive 1-on-1. Y'know, that "empathy" thing that turbopuns pretends is lacking. It really pisses me off how these nuanced discussions are always just waved away as cancel culture despite all the good faith understanding offered. It's not easy to always give all that leeway to bigotry that harms us just to repeatedly get ignored for waves of dumb reactionary trolls who couldn't be assed to take any of it seriously. And then people wonder why the hell we're mad. masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>My point is that yelling about how much of a bigot he is is at best a gigantic waste of time and energy you could be spending doing absolutely anything else, and at worst actually makes him more of a bigot.</quote> GuessMyUserName posted... </cite> <quote>"why do you yell at people who adamantly promote bigotry against you" Tired of limp-dicked liberals putting the onus on minorities to stay calm in the face of bigotry when it's our lives at stake. Ignorance is allowed as an excuse for these people to say whatever the fuck inflammatory garbage they want but if we bite back we're the problem.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 12/05/21 4:27:32 PM #224:	masterplum posted... Yeah, my point is not "being understanding and supportive will change puns mind" There is no guarantee that will happen and hell, it's not your obligation to change his mind even if it would absolutely work. My point is that yelling about how much of a bigot he is is at best a gigantic waste of time and energy you could be spending doing absolutely anything else, and at worst actually makes him more of a bigot. It's not going to change how he thinks one way or another but it might make him go be a dick somewhere else, which I imagine some people might appreciate --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:960648597] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, my point is not "being understanding and supportive will change puns mind" There is no guarantee that will happen and hell, it's not your obligation to change his mind even if it would absolutely work. My point is that yelling about how much of a bigot he is is at best a gigantic waste of time and energy you could be spending doing absolutely anything else, and at worst actually makes him more of a bigot.</quote> It's not going to change how he thinks one way or another but it might make him go be a dick somewhere else, which I imagine some people might appreciate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/05/21 4:39:59 PM #225:	Mr Lasastryke posted... are you being condescending while trying to change my mind? that's very counter-productive, according to your own stance. Its a joke, and Id find it very funny if you didnt change your mind about this. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:960648983] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted... </cite> <quote>are you being condescending while trying to change my mind? that's very counter-productive, according to your own stance.</quote> Its a joke, and Id find it very funny if you didnt change your mind about this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/05/21 4:44:17 PM #226:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Its a joke, and Id find it very funny if you didnt change your mind about this. oh ok i thought i was having a serious conversation with you --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:960649090] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Its a joke, and Id find it very funny if you didnt change your mind about this.</quote> oh ok i thought i was having a serious conversation with you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 12/05/21 4:57:41 PM #227:	99% of the things you do with your free time in life are a waste of time and is never an argument that should make you compelled to do anything. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:960649436] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>99% of the things you do with your free time in life are a waste of time and is never an argument that should make you compelled to do anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 12/05/21 5:04:34 PM #228:	GuessMyUserName posted... "why do you yell at people who adamantly promote bigotry against you" Tired of limp-dicked liberals putting the onus on minorities to stay calm in the face of bigotry when it's our lives at stake. Ignorance is allowed as an excuse for these people to say whatever the fuck inflammatory garbage they want but if we bite back we're the problem. I don't mean to take away from your message because i absolutely agree, i just want to clarify that plum is a limp dicked centrist who has a superiority complex --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:960649627] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>GuessMyUserName posted... </cite> <quote>"why do you yell at people who adamantly promote bigotry against you" Tired of limp-dicked liberals putting the onus on minorities to stay calm in the face of bigotry when it's our lives at stake. Ignorance is allowed as an excuse for these people to say whatever the fuck inflammatory garbage they want but if we bite back we're the problem.</quote>I don't mean to take away from your message because i absolutely agree, i just want to clarify that plum is a limp dicked centrist who has a superiority complex </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/05/21 5:07:32 PM #229:	Mr Lasastryke posted... oh ok i thought i was having a serious conversation with you You were? Kinda looks like you made multiple consecutive 1 sentence posts shooting down a position without addressing it, is that a discussion? My bad. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:960649700] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted... </cite> <quote>oh ok i thought i was having a serious conversation with you</quote> You were? Kinda looks like you made multiple consecutive 1 sentence posts shooting down a position without addressing it, is that a discussion? My bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/05/21 5:09:25 PM #230:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... You were? Kinda looks like you made multiple consecutive 1 sentence posts shooting down a position without addressing it, is that a discussion? My bad. asking a question is "shooting down a position"? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:960649742] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>You were? Kinda looks like you made multiple consecutive 1 sentence posts shooting down a position without addressing it, is that a discussion? My bad.</quote> asking a question is "shooting down a position"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 12/05/21 5:21:03 PM #231:	Lasa, let me put things into perspective here by being the one to say it. Tony is completely right. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:960650038] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Lasa, let me put things into perspective here by being the one to say it. Tony is completely right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/05/21 5:22:42 PM #232:	kevwaffles posted... Lasa, let me put things into perspective here by being the one to say it. Tony is completely right. ok thanks for your completely pointless contribution that explained nothing --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:960650085] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>kevwaffles posted... </cite> <quote>Lasa, let me put things into perspective here by being the one to say it. Tony is completely right.</quote> ok thanks for your completely pointless contribution that explained nothing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/05/21 6:59:45 PM #233:	Hoo boy I missed something Uuuh my two cents: plum is right in that talking to people calmly is the only way to change their minds. He's wrong in that it's worth attempting to keep doing this with turbopun, who can go fuck right off --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:960652879] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Hoo boy I missed something Uuuh my two cents: plum is right in that talking to people calmly is the only way to change their minds. He's wrong in that it's worth attempting to keep doing this with turbopun, who can go fuck right off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 12/05/21 7:03:36 PM #234:	He's also wrong in assuming it's everyone's job to remain calm at all times when bigots are directly talking shit about them --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:960652980] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>He's also wrong in assuming it's everyone's job to remain calm at all times when bigots are directly talking shit about them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 12/05/21 7:03:42 PM #235:	tbf plum's argument isn't that it's worth attempting to keep calmly changing his mind, it's solely just about not being mean to him when he turns out to be a lost cause. which is just some real privileged tone policing that comes from having no skin in the game --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:960652984] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>tbf plum's argument isn't that it's worth attempting to keep calmly changing his mind, it's solely just about not being mean to him when he turns out to be a lost cause. which is just some real privileged tone policing that comes from having no skin in the game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 12/05/21 7:35:35 PM #236:	In my experience people hemming and hawing over alienating people by being so mean to them while they debate the ethics of my existence is just a way for them to keep being total dicks while getting minimal 'nicely worded so as not to offend' pushback, if any. So ** them. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:960654153] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>In my experience people hemming and hawing over alienating people by being so mean to them while they debate the ethics of my existence is just a way for them to keep being total dicks while getting minimal 'nicely worded so as not to offend' pushback, if any. So ** them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/05/21 7:39:13 PM #237:	PerfectChaosZ posted... In my experience people hemming and hawing over alienating people by being so mean to them while they debate the ethics of my existence is just a way for them to keep being total dicks while getting minimal 'nicely worded so as not to offend' pushback, if any. So ** them. This is something that needs to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis, although honestly after years of this BS I think most of us have become adept at picking out the people with an open mind vs. the people who are pricks hiding under a veneer of civility. The idea that turbopun could be anything but the latter after that recent post he made is veeeeeeeeeeeeery low. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:960654298] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>PerfectChaosZ posted... </cite> <quote>In my experience people hemming and hawing over alienating people by being so mean to them while they debate the ethics of my existence is just a way for them to keep being total dicks while getting minimal 'nicely worded so as not to offend' pushback, if any. So ** them.</quote>This is something that needs to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis, although honestly after years of this BS I think most of us have become adept at picking out the people with an open mind vs. the people who are pricks hiding under a veneer of civility. The idea that turbopun could be anything but the latter after that recent post he made is veeeeeeeeeeeeery low. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/05/21 7:44:11 PM #238:	I'm so tired <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:960654469] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>I'm so tired </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/06/21 10:54:00 AM #239:	https://twitter.com/andreamccarren/status/1467249119395782657?s=21 This is normal --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:960669907] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/andreamccarren/status/1467249119395782657?s=21 This is normal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeydude15 12/06/21 11:37:35 AM #240:	Honestly it kinda is, people have been doing that shit for decades on the Lincoln Memorial you just never heard about it because no one gave a shit about those losers. The only difference now is they get the attention they are going for. --- Yawn <cite>hockeydude15 posted [p:960670936] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Honestly it kinda is, people have been doing that shit for decades on the Lincoln Memorial you just never heard about it because no one gave a shit about those losers. The only difference now is they get the attention they are going for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 12/07/21 8:58:14 AM #241:	https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/06/gop-rep-devin-nunes-resigns-from-congress-to-become-ceo-of-trumps-media-company.html This is great but also gross --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:960696606] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/06/gop-rep-devin-nunes-resigns-from-congress-to-become-ceo-of-trumps-media-company.html This is great but also gross </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 12/07/21 9:05:53 AM #242:	Fortunately he's a dumbass so I don't foresee him doing a great job in his new role --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:960696733] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Fortunately he's a dumbass so I don't foresee him doing a great job in his new role </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 12/07/21 9:08:10 AM #243:	On the one hand, Fuck Devin Nunes. I'm glad he's no longer going to be my representative. On the other hand, this more or less confirms everything we thought we knew about his loyalties during Trump's term. --- ~C~ FD https://imgur.com/dGDfxaw <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:960696771] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>On the one hand, Fuck Devin Nunes. I'm glad he's no longer going to be my representative. On the other hand, this more or less confirms everything we thought we knew about his loyalties during Trump's term. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 12/07/21 11:18:39 AM #244:	Media harping on Kamala Harris for not using blutooth headphones. ...Anyone who ever calls the media "Liberal" again can shut the fuck up. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:960699400] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Media harping on Kamala Harris for not using blutooth headphones. ...Anyone who ever calls the media "Liberal" again can shut the fuck up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 12/07/21 11:27:51 AM #245:	bluetooth headphones suck what's their issue? --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:960699647] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>bluetooth headphones suck what's their issue? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 12/07/21 11:29:40 AM #246:	Tan suit, etc. It's ridiculous the double standard applied on the executive branch when it's a democrat. --- ~C~ FD https://imgur.com/dGDfxaw <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:960699701] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Tan suit, etc. It's ridiculous the double standard applied on the executive branch when it's a democrat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeepsPraw 12/07/21 12:05:30 PM #247:	It's a single Politico column and about 2 dozen media outlets complaining about the Politico column. I'm not that familiar with the column but it does seem somewhat tongue-in-cheek --- pepsi for tv-game <cite>DeepsPraw posted [p:960700656] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>It's a single Politico column and about 2 dozen media outlets complaining about the Politico column. I'm not that familiar with the column but it does seem somewhat tongue-in-cheek </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/07/21 12:20:27 PM #248:	Dancedreamer posted... Media harping on Kamala Harris for not using blutooth headphones. ...Anyone who ever calls the media "Liberal" again can shut the fuck up. I saw the two sentence blurb about it, and only because basically everyone is roasting that its something so dumb attributed to two reporters. But since were on the topic of dumb reporting: https://twitter.com/slothstew/status/1467659910158635009?s=21 --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:960701100] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted... </cite> <quote>Media harping on Kamala Harris for not using blutooth headphones. ...Anyone who ever calls the media "Liberal" again can shut the fuck up.</quote> I saw the two sentence blurb about it, and only because basically everyone is roasting that its something so dumb attributed to two reporters. But since were on the topic of dumb reporting: https://twitter.com/slothstew/status/1467659910158635009?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/07/21 12:29:37 PM #249:	Dancedreamer posted... Media harping on Kamala Harris for not using blutooth headphones. ...Anyone who ever calls the media "Liberal" again can shut the fuck up. They do this with anyone and everyone. It's just that Trump had the amazing combination of being so bombastic and having a VERY devoted following who followed his every word so it seemed especially pronounced back then. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:960701357] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted... </cite> <quote>Media harping on Kamala Harris for not using blutooth headphones. ...Anyone who ever calls the media "Liberal" again can shut the fuck up.</quote> They do this with anyone and everyone. It's just that Trump had the amazing combination of being so bombastic and having a VERY devoted following who followed his every word so it seemed especially pronounced back then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 12/07/21 1:08:03 PM #250:	https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/12/07/1061329725/why-is-the-biden-administration-increasing-the-cost-of-building-houses Cool --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:960702401] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/12/07/1061329725/why-is-the-biden-administration-increasing-the-cost-of-building-houses Cool </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 12/07/21 1:12:17 PM #251:	gotta get that AMERICAN wood --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:960702494] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>gotta get that AMERICAN wood </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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