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red sox 777 10/08/21 4:57:45 PM #302:	LordoftheMorons posted... Wow, they actually got an agreement on a 15% global minimum (corporate) tax: https://twitter.com/jasonfurman/status/1446510900110761985?s=21 Yeah it's meaningless. Our corporate tax rate is already above that. The issue is with the definition of income. Companies have gotten very good at becoming very valuable while generating no income whatsoever. IMO if you want wealth redistribution, you're more likely to succeed using inflation as a soft tax, paired with directed distributions of newly printed money - i.e. pay more newly printed money directly to the poor and let it trickle up. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:958838780] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Wow, they actually got an agreement on a 15% global minimum (corporate) tax: https://twitter.com/jasonfurman/status/1446510900110761985?s=21</quote> Yeah it's meaningless. Our corporate tax rate is already above that. The issue is with the definition of income. Companies have gotten very good at becoming very valuable while generating no income whatsoever. IMO if you want wealth redistribution, you're more likely to succeed using inflation as a soft tax, paired with directed distributions of newly printed money - i.e. pay more newly printed money directly to the poor and let it trickle up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 10/08/21 7:56:12 PM #303:	Corporate taxes are dumb for the reason you said. If you want to tax rich people tax rich people. Wealth tax, whatever. Taxing corporations is extremely ineffective --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:958844120] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Corporate taxes are dumb for the reason you said. If you want to tax rich people tax rich people. Wealth tax, whatever. Taxing corporations is extremely ineffective </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 10/08/21 7:57:01 PM #304:	if corporations are people then wouldn't taxing rich people mean taxing corporations? makes you think --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:958844149] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>if corporations are people then wouldn't taxing rich people mean taxing corporations? makes you think </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/08/21 7:59:51 PM #305:	masterplum posted... Corporate taxes are dumb for the reason you said. If you want to tax rich people tax rich people. Wealth tax, whatever. Taxing corporations is extremely ineffective Elizabeth Warren appears to be pretending to be unaware of this, but a wealth tax is almost certainly not constitutional in the USA. There's a reason they had to amend the constitution to create an income tax. And that amendment is strictly limited to income. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:958844216] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>Corporate taxes are dumb for the reason you said. If you want to tax rich people tax rich people. Wealth tax, whatever. Taxing corporations is extremely ineffective</quote> Elizabeth Warren appears to be pretending to be unaware of this, but a wealth tax is almost certainly not constitutional in the USA. There's a reason they had to amend the constitution to create an income tax. And that amendment is strictly limited to income. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 10/08/21 8:01:34 PM #306:	If you don't tax corporations at all, the rich will just keep their money there to avoid taxes. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:958844280] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>If you don't tax corporations at all, the rich will just keep their money there to avoid taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 10/08/21 8:17:39 PM #307:	Xeybozn posted... If you don't tax corporations at all, the rich will just keep their money there to avoid taxes. Ok? They cant spend the money then. Thats no different from keeping money in fine Art --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:958844747] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted... </cite> <quote>If you don't tax corporations at all, the rich will just keep their money there to avoid taxes.</quote> Ok? They cant spend the money then. Thats no different from keeping money in fine Art </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 10/08/21 8:20:29 PM #308:	you say that as if the rich doesn't just hoard their wealth already --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:958844835] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>you say that as if the rich doesn't just hoard their wealth already </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/08/21 8:22:45 PM #309:	masterplum posted... Ok? They cant spend the money then. Thats no different from keeping money in fine Art It's not. The corporation can spend the money for them to a large extent. Once you're past a certain wealth level your spending is going to be a tiny fraction of your wealth, it's all about investment choices. And your corporation can invest as well as you can in your own name. Plus, you can take out loans from your corporation secured by your shares and spend the proceeds. Loans with very, very, very, long repayment times. When you die, your estate can pay back the loans using your shares. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:958844895] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>Ok? They cant spend the money then. Thats no different from keeping money in fine Art</quote> It's not. The corporation can spend the money for them to a large extent. Once you're past a certain wealth level your spending is going to be a tiny fraction of your wealth, it's all about investment choices. And your corporation can invest as well as you can in your own name. Plus, you can take out loans from your corporation secured by your shares and spend the proceeds. Loans with very, very, very, long repayment times. When you die, your estate can pay back the loans using your shares. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 10/08/21 9:10:36 PM #310:	red sox 777 posted... It's not. The corporation can spend the money for them to a large extent. Once you're past a certain wealth level your spending is going to be a tiny fraction of your wealth, it's all about investment choices. And your corporation can invest as well as you can in your own name. Plus, you can take out loans from your corporation secured by your shares and spend the proceeds. Loans with very, very, very, long repayment times. When you die, your estate can pay back the loans using your shares. And then you claim the loans as debt on your taxes to offset your income so you dont even have to pay taxes on that. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:958846376] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>It's not. The corporation can spend the money for them to a large extent. Once you're past a certain wealth level your spending is going to be a tiny fraction of your wealth, it's all about investment choices. And your corporation can invest as well as you can in your own name. Plus, you can take out loans from your corporation secured by your shares and spend the proceeds. Loans with very, very, very, long repayment times. When you die, your estate can pay back the loans using your shares.</quote>And then you claim the loans as debt on your taxes to offset your income so you dont even have to pay taxes on that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 10/08/21 9:53:24 PM #311:	First shes interning at a Winery owned by a big donor, now shes literally teaching college courses on raising money? https://theintercept.com/2021/10/08/kyrsten-sinema-fundraising-course-asu/ Bruh this woman is weird as fuck --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:958847657] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>First shes interning at a Winery owned by a big donor, now shes literally teaching college courses on raising money? https://theintercept.com/2021/10/08/kyrsten-sinema-fundraising-course-asu/ Bruh this woman is weird as fuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 10/08/21 9:55:14 PM #312:	Sinema is the all time worst. Like Manchin atleast makes sense. He sucks, but you get why he sucks. Sinema legitimately just straight up lied about her intentions and it becomes clearer and clearer literally every day. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:958847724] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Sinema is the all time worst. Like Manchin atleast makes sense. He sucks, but you get why he sucks. Sinema legitimately just straight up lied about her intentions and it becomes clearer and clearer literally every day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/08/21 9:55:55 PM #313:	PhD, JD, MSW, and MBA? How many years did she spend getting all those degrees?! --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:958847746] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>PhD, JD, MSW, and MBA? How many years did she spend getting all those degrees?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/08/21 9:57:35 PM #314:	But the people who supported Hillary and Nancy Pelosi who are now attacking her are hypocrites. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:958847799] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>But the people who supported Hillary and Nancy Pelosi who are now attacking her are hypocrites. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroicCrono 10/09/21 2:43:50 AM #315:	The 5th Circuit has reinstated the Texas abortion law. --- This is Red Sox 777 on a mobile phone. <cite>HeroicCrono posted [p:958853836] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>The 5th Circuit has reinstated the Texas abortion law. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 10/09/21 3:23:51 AM #316:	StealThisSheen posted... Sinema is the all time worst. Like Manchin atleast makes sense. He sucks, but you get why he sucks. Sinema legitimately just straight up lied about her intentions and it becomes clearer and clearer literally every day. Yeah, with Manchin, he's awful but you also know we are never ever ever getting a better senator from WV. Ever. With Sinema, we have a better senator from Arizona RIGHT NOW. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:958854350] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>Sinema is the all time worst. Like Manchin atleast makes sense. He sucks, but you get why he sucks. Sinema legitimately just straight up lied about her intentions and it becomes clearer and clearer literally every day.</quote> Yeah, with Manchin, he's awful but you also know we are never ever ever getting a better senator from WV. Ever. With Sinema, we have a better senator from Arizona RIGHT NOW. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TotallyNotMI 10/09/21 10:24:19 AM #317:	https://www.salon.com/2021/10/08/joe-biden-complains-kyrsten-sinema-is-ignoring-his-calls--but-she-talks-to-mitch/ --- I'm not sure who this MI guy is but he sounds sexy. <cite>TotallyNotMI posted [p:958859371] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>https://www.salon.com/2021/10/08/joe-biden-complains-kyrsten-sinema-is-ignoring-his-calls--but-she-talks-to-mitch/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 10/09/21 10:28:26 AM #318:	Suprak the Stud posted... Yeah, with Manchin, he's awful but you also know we are never ever ever getting a better senator from WV. Ever. With Sinema, we have a better senator from Arizona RIGHT NOW. 100% this --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:958859468] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, with Manchin, he's awful but you also know we are never ever ever getting a better senator from WV. Ever. With Sinema, we have a better senator from Arizona RIGHT NOW.</quote> 100% this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 10/09/21 10:46:48 AM #319:	https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1445450001505607684 This is such a weird story for me on a few levels. Like, it's good that cases this far back are being reviewed in light of corrupt officers (the arresting officer also falsified evidence to conduct drug raids along with the, you know, multiple counts of first-degree murder) but also like... way too late. Anyway, it's better than doing noth- The Washington Post reports... The unanimous recommendation by the seven-member Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles now goes to Gov. Greg Abbott (R), who will have the final say on whether the request is granted. Nevermind, not even that will be done because Abbott won't even grant a posthumous pardon unanimously recommended by the Board of Pardons and the DA because it'd hurt him in a primary. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:958859839] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1445450001505607684 This is such a weird story for me on a few levels. Like, it's good that cases this far back are being reviewed in light of corrupt officers (the arresting officer also falsified evidence to conduct drug raids along with the, you know, multiple counts of first-degree murder) but also like... way too late. Anyway, it's better than doing noth- The Washington Post reports... <quote>The unanimous recommendation by the seven-member Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles now goes to Gov. Greg Abbott (R), who will have the final say on whether the request is granted.</quote> Nevermind, not even that will be done because Abbott won't even grant a posthumous pardon unanimously recommended by the Board of Pardons and the DA because it'd hurt him in a primary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 10/10/21 6:08:10 AM #320:	i made it through about 10 seconds of the ben shapiro video about hasan piker before having to turn it off because the stupidity was just too overwhelming. he's literally saying "OMG HE'S SUCH A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE HE'S A RICH SOCIALIST AND HE DOESN'T GIVE HIS MONEY TO THE POOR." what socialists don't say: "people aren't allowed to be rich." what socialists also don't say: "the rich should give their money to the poor via charity." how does one of the biggest political commentary channels on youtube get extremely basic shit like this completely wrong? it's insane. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:958886310] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>i made it through about 10 seconds of the ben shapiro video about hasan piker before having to turn it off because the stupidity was just too overwhelming. he's literally saying "OMG HE'S SUCH A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE HE'S A RICH SOCIALIST AND HE DOESN'T GIVE HIS MONEY TO THE POOR." what socialists don't say: "people aren't allowed to be rich." what socialists also don't say: "the rich should give their money to the poor via charity." how does one of the biggest political commentary channels on youtube get extremely basic shit like this completely wrong? it's insane. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 10/10/21 6:37:27 AM #321:	Mr Lasastryke posted... how does one of the biggest political commentary channels on youtube get extremely basic shit like this completely wrong? it's insane. I'm sorry, are you unfamiliar with the conservative political commentary sphere? It's not about getting things right or wrong, it's about finding the best ways to represent your enemies in the poorest light to your base for rage clicks. The concept of 'right' or 'wrong' are completely irrelevant in Shapiro's universe - neither he nor any of these people care about the truth, or even understand the truth as something meaningful in their worldview. They don't seek to understand, they seek to dominate. They get "extremely basic shit wrong" because that's their entire strategy. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:958886584] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted... </cite> <quote> how does one of the biggest political commentary channels on youtube get extremely basic shit like this completely wrong? it's insane.</quote>I'm sorry, are you unfamiliar with the conservative political commentary sphere? It's not about getting things right or wrong, it's about finding the best ways to represent your enemies in the poorest light to your base for rage clicks. The concept of 'right' or 'wrong' are completely irrelevant in Shapiro's universe - neither he nor any of these people care about the truth, or even understand the truth as something meaningful in their worldview. They don't seek to understand, they seek to dominate. They get "extremely basic shit wrong" because that's their entire strategy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 10/10/21 6:46:47 AM #322:	yeah, i guess i'm somehow still surprised that people are so shitty that guys like crowder and shapiro rule the political commentary sphere on youtube. but i probably shouldn't be. and of course the larger question is "why are these assholes still not banned on the site," as we've talked about before. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:958886688] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>yeah, i guess i'm somehow still surprised that people are so shitty that guys like crowder and shapiro rule the political commentary sphere on youtube. but i probably shouldn't be. and of course the larger question is "why are these assholes still not banned on the site," as we've talked about before. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 10/10/21 6:49:59 AM #323:	also, i thought the hasan piker thing was worth bringing up because bernie constantly got attacked with the same "HOW CAN HE BE A SOCIALIST WHEN HE'S RICH LOL" bullshit. it's just the dumbest ad hominem attack. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:958886725] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>also, i thought the hasan piker thing was worth bringing up because bernie constantly got attacked with the same "HOW CAN HE BE A SOCIALIST WHEN HE'S RICH LOL" bullshit. it's just the dumbest ad hominem attack. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 10/10/21 10:33:44 AM #324:	https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1446538591098703872?t=t0XmzEAbtBaIL5e930XnEg&s=19 --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:958889820] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1446538591098703872?t=t0XmzEAbtBaIL5e930XnEg&s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 10/10/21 11:01:58 AM #325:	Mr Lasastryke posted... also, i thought the hasan piker thing was worth bringing up because bernie constantly got attacked with the same "HOW CAN HE BE A SOCIALIST WHEN HE'S RICH LOL" bullshit. it's just the dumbest ad hominem attack. You have to remember that US conservative voices literally dont see a difference socialism and communism. So they expect Socialists to support all communist policies including extreme redistribution of wealth. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:958890353] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted... </cite> <quote>also, i thought the hasan piker thing was worth bringing up because bernie constantly got attacked with the same "HOW CAN HE BE A SOCIALIST WHEN HE'S RICH LOL" bullshit. it's just the dumbest ad hominem attack.</quote>You have to remember that US conservative voices literally dont see a difference socialism and communism. So they expect Socialists to support all communist policies including extreme redistribution of wealth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 10/10/21 11:15:41 AM #326:	Maniac64 posted... You have to remember that US conservative voices literally dont see a difference socialism and communism. So they expect Socialists to support all communist policies including extreme redistribution of wealth. that explanation makes sense, yeah. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:958890638] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Maniac64 posted... </cite> <quote>You have to remember that US conservative voices literally dont see a difference socialism and communism. So they expect Socialists to support all communist policies including extreme redistribution of wealth.</quote> that explanation makes sense, yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 10/10/21 11:45:38 AM #327:	Yeah, socialism is definitely branded as "Communism 2.0" to people who don't really care enough to learn the difference. I'm not really a huge supporter of socialism and even I find it ridiculous. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:958891302] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, socialism is definitely branded as "Communism 2.0" to people who don't really care enough to learn the difference. I'm not really a huge supporter of socialism and even I find it ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/12/21 12:30:05 PM #328:	Ok so I thought this topic had been deleted when it had not been whoops! anyway, https://twitter.com/richardhanania/status/1447597297211043844?s=21 --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:958960254] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Ok so I thought this topic had been deleted when it had not been whoops! anyway, https://twitter.com/richardhanania/status/1447597297211043844?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 10/12/21 1:38:26 PM #329:	lol https://twitter.com/NJDSC/status/1447558204595003393 ~~"Aw, that's kinda nice."~~ ~~"Really?"~~ Fuck no!" --- xp1337:* Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:958962360] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>lol https://twitter.com/NJDSC/status/1447558204595003393 "Aw, that's kinda nice." "Really?" *Fuck no!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 10/12/21 8:36:02 PM #330:	--- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:958974604] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/13/21 5:49:16 AM #331:	Biden honestly doesn't look half bad for pushing 80. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:958984742] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Biden honestly doesn't look half bad for pushing 80. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 10/13/21 11:26:26 AM #332:	I ship Weirdly Fit Biden with Weirdly Fit Trump. --- pretend there is a trans flag emoji here <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:958990600] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>I ship Weirdly Fit Biden with Weirdly Fit Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/14/21 1:40:02 AM #333:	https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1448382199078719488? Trump threatening us with a good time. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:959014809] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1448382199078719488? Trump threatening us with a good time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 10/14/21 7:36:18 AM #334:	oh no not that --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:959018792] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>oh no not that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 10/14/21 9:31:15 AM #335:	Mr Lasastryke posted... also, i thought the hasan piker thing was worth bringing up because bernie constantly got attacked with the same "HOW CAN HE BE A SOCIALIST WHEN HE'S RICH LOL" bullshit. it's just the dumbest ad hominem attack. There's nothing ad hominem about it. Just like there's nothing wrong with someone who has found wealth and success enjoying the fruits of their labour. The problem comes from the fact that this particular idiot made his wealth and fame by centering his content on a shaky political persona and then also begging for subs/donations from his fans who are most likely unemployed and/or poor. That's pretty much a textbook definition of exploitation and hypocrisy --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:959020781] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted... </cite> <quote>also, i thought the hasan piker thing was worth bringing up because bernie constantly got attacked with the same "HOW CAN HE BE A SOCIALIST WHEN HE'S RICH LOL" bullshit. it's just the dumbest ad hominem attack.</quote>There's nothing ad hominem about it. Just like there's nothing wrong with someone who has found wealth and success enjoying the fruits of their labour. The problem comes from the fact that this particular idiot made his wealth and fame by centering his content on a shaky political persona and then also begging for subs/donations from his fans who are most likely unemployed and/or poor. That's pretty much a textbook definition of exploitation and hypocrisy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 10/14/21 9:32:44 AM #336:	Also lol @ trump telling his supporters to not vote. Is he intentionally trying to tank the GOP at this point? --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:959020820] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Also lol @ trump telling his supporters to not vote. Is he intentionally trying to tank the GOP at this point? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/14/21 4:29:26 PM #337:	Yes, if he can't be president, Trump wants to take the GOP down with him. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:959032953] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Yes, if he can't be president, Trump wants to take the GOP down with him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 10/14/21 4:57:45 PM #338:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... The problem comes from the fact that this particular idiot made his wealth and fame by centering his content on a shaky political persona and then also begging for subs/donations from his fans who are most likely unemployed and/or poor. That's pretty much a textbook definition of exploitation and hypocrisy if piker is doing that, that's stupid (i don't know him that well, to be honest). but that wasn't the argument shapiro was making. his point was literally "if you're a rich socialist, you're automatically a hypocrite." he also bashed bernie later on in his video for being a wealthy socialist. i've watched bernie's twitch channel a ton and i've certainly never seen him beg for subs and donations, so... --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:959033838] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>The problem comes from the fact that this particular idiot made his wealth and fame by centering his content on a shaky political persona and then also begging for subs/donations from his fans who are most likely unemployed and/or poor. That's pretty much a textbook definition of exploitation and hypocrisy</quote> if piker is doing that, that's stupid (i don't know him that well, to be honest). but that wasn't the argument shapiro was making. his point was literally "if you're a rich socialist, you're automatically a hypocrite." he also bashed bernie later on in his video for being a wealthy socialist. i've watched bernie's twitch channel a ton and i've certainly never seen him beg for subs and donations, so... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/14/21 5:16:48 PM #339:	https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1448741745584480259?s=21 --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:959034435] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1448741745584480259?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 10/14/21 5:17:54 PM #340:	jfc --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:959034470] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>jfc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/14/21 5:19:51 PM #341:	To be fair, its the school administrator trying to comply with some new law and not them saying thats how it SHOULD be, I think But still --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:959034521] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, its the school administrator trying to comply with some new law and not them saying thats how it SHOULD be, I think But still </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 10/14/21 5:51:30 PM #342:	Teacher: How do you oppose the Holocaust? ...I understand what they mean here, but that has to be the worst way to phrase it. At first glance I almost thought they meant the exact opposite idea. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:959035421] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote><quote>Teacher: How do you oppose the Holocaust?</quote> ...I understand what they mean here, but that has to be the worst way to phrase it. At first glance I almost thought they meant the exact opposite idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 10/14/21 6:02:26 PM #343:	This is an absolutely awful example of journalism on NBC news's part. The way they worded it, I was led to believe before actually listening to the audio clip that it would be a school administrator who recommended both sidesing the holocaust, rather than frustratedly trying to put up with a terrible law, and everyone responding to the tweet also didn't listen to the audio clip and came away with the same response, calling for firing the school administrator and shit like that. Just absolutely monstrous misinformation from NBC news here. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:959035742] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>This is an absolutely awful example of journalism on NBC news's part. The way they worded it, I was led to believe before actually listening to the audio clip that it would be a school administrator who recommended both sidesing the holocaust, rather than frustratedly trying to put up with a terrible law, and everyone responding to the tweet also didn't listen to the audio clip and came away with the same response, calling for firing the school administrator and shit like that. Just absolutely monstrous misinformation from NBC news here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 10/14/21 8:20:25 PM #344:	"i'm not a big brain political pundit." - thequartering that's an understatement but i appreciate the self-awareness, at least. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:959039873] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>"i'm not a big brain political pundit." - thequartering that's an understatement but i appreciate the self-awareness, at least. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/15/21 2:09:59 AM #345:	https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/giuliani-trump-campaign-free-deposition-1239522/ During a deposition for the case, one of Coomers lawyers asked Giuliani if he ever received payment for representing the Trump campaign. Giuliani replied that he was not paid for his work for the campaign and only received reimbursements for expenses, which prompted Coomers attorney to ask why he would work without compensation. The president the president ordered me to do it, Giuliani said, according to Business Insider. LOL --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:959048506] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/giuliani-trump-campaign-free-deposition-1239522/ <quote>During a deposition for the case, one of Coomers lawyers asked Giuliani if he ever received payment for representing the Trump campaign. Giuliani replied that he was not paid for his work for the campaign and only received reimbursements for expenses, which prompted Coomers attorney to ask why he would work without compensation.</quote> <quote>The president the president ordered me to do it, Giuliani said, according to Business Insider.</quote> LOL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/15/21 8:58:48 AM #346:	The stupid thing is when I see that there is "extensive documentation" of fraud I get scared before I remember that all it amounts to is a bunch of statistics that can be skewed to make it look like Trump was cheated out of victory. Welcome to the Internet Age! --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:959053929] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>The stupid thing is when I see that there is "extensive documentation" of fraud I get scared before I remember that all it amounts to is a bunch of statistics that can be skewed to make it look like Trump was cheated out of victory. Welcome to the Internet Age! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 10/15/21 11:57:51 AM #347:	massive cyber incident over in missouri https://twitter.com/GovParsonMO/status/1448697768311132160 the entire thread is gold Though to be serious for a moment, it's pretty fucking odious for the Governor to try to prosecute a journalist (who alerted them and gave them time to actually do something before print) for their sheer incompetence. (the multi step process of right-click -> view source because you put fucking SSNs in there) --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:959058898] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>massive cyber incident over in missouri https://twitter.com/GovParsonMO/status/1448697768311132160 the entire thread is gold Though to be serious for a moment, it's pretty fucking odious for the Governor to try to prosecute a journalist (who alerted them and gave them time to actually do something before print) for their sheer incompetence. (the multi step process of right-click -> view source because you put fucking SSNs in there) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 10/15/21 12:42:57 PM #348:	You'll have to pry my F12 key from my cold, dead fingers! --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:959060356] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>You'll have to pry my F12 key from my cold, dead fingers!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 10/15/21 12:43:32 PM #349:	Yeah that's pretty fucked up. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:959060374] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Yeah that's pretty fucked up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/15/21 12:44:38 PM #350:	Jakyl25 posted... https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/giuliani-trump-campaign-free-deposition-1239522/ LOL Well he wasn't paid right? Trump agreed to pay him and then didn't. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:959060408] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/giuliani-trump-campaign-free-deposition-1239522/ LOL</quote> Well he wasn't paid right? Trump agreed to pay him and then didn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 10/15/21 12:54:13 PM #351:	The right doesn't know what good faith means, so the idea that someone would alert them to an issue and simultaneously not act to take advantage of it is completely unimaginable to them --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:959060718] in Politics C... [t:79667835]...</cite> <quote>The right doesn't know what good faith means, so the idea that someone would alert them to an issue and simultaneously not act to take advantage of it is completely unimaginable to them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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