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The Wave Master 05/05/21 7:17:04 PM #51:	I finished NXT and Raw. Yeah, nothing happened. Well, I kind of skimmed over NXT because my satellite went down because of bad weather and some of the show didn't record, but I didn't miss a match or anything important. Raw seems to be in this holding pattern of Beta Male, Strowman, and McIntyre, and some combination of these hree wrestling each other in the main event each week. They really need to figure out a long term booking for these three because I'm getting tied of the same matches and the same promos every damn week. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:953597736] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>I finished NXT and Raw. Yeah, nothing happened. Well, I kind of skimmed over NXT because my satellite went down because of bad weather and some of the show didn't record, but I didn't miss a match or anything important. Raw seems to be in this holding pattern of Beta Male, Strowman, and McIntyre, and some combination of these hree wrestling each other in the main event each week. They really need to figure out a long term booking for these three because I'm getting tied of the same matches and the same promos every damn week. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/05/21 8:10:59 PM #52:	AEW Dark 5/4 summary iirc, it was 14 matches in a 97-minute show, which isn't a terrible ratio even though some of those could have shorter. The Kilynn King match could have been half its length without losing anything... and they could have dropped the entire Jelly Nutella match. Team Taz tag match (Hobbes ~~squashed both opponents while Ricky lay down outside the ring~~) -- Team Taz is always fun. ~~Because its members are high-end jobbers, they tend to have have undercard matches which show them being dominate so they don't lose all credibility due to their almost-constant losses.~~ Leyla Hirsch v Diamante ("revenge" match for ambush; ~~Leyla won~~.) So-so match. They probably could have done more to set it up and get some mileage from it. Varsity Blondes vs jobbers (didn't watch) SCU vs jobbers -- Okay match. SCU is usually pretty good. Big Swole vs Megan Bayne (new job gal with a Greek gimmick; she's bigger than Swole) -- Megan Bayne seems like she could be a star. I was curious how tall Bayne is, but google isn't returning anything (other than info about her OVW record). Swole is apparently only 5'5" so maybe maybe Bane is 5'7". Nutella & Sonny vs jobbers (didn't watch, because Nutella and Sonny) Kilynn King v Julia Hart (another new job girl, this time with a cheerleader gimmick.) -- Julia reminds me a little of Alexa Bliss. Cute girl, but doesn't seem to be able to do much. Whereas Swole v Bayne was decent (probably because Bayne is ex-OVW), this was a long, non-competitive match. Also it was kinda weird that Kilynn wasn't ringside for Swole and vice versa, given that they've been acting like a stable Pac v Serpentico (was tempted to skip, but I'm happy I got to watch Aubrey cleaning up those ribbons) -- Pac is good, Serpentico is always lousy. It doesn't quite balance out, but it was decent enough. Bunny v Leila Grey (meh) The Acclaimed vs... whoever -- The planted fans were booing, which felt so forced Sky & Page v Hughes Brothers -- Sky & Page are a really fun tag team. The Hughes Brothers are very athlethic and can convincingly deliver power moves JD, Cesar Bonini, Nemeth v Dork Order -- I was tempted to skip this match (and if Peter Avalon had been in the match rather than at ringside, I definitely would have), but figured I'd watch a few minutes. In hindsight, I should have just skipped, but it was 8 minutes. Danny Limelight v Dante Martin -- I still dislike Top Flight, but the entrance is cool. Dante is absurdly green, although he might be decent someday. He just needs a lot of practice. For now, Dante is small, he's sloppy, he has no ring presence, and lacks charisma... which is what you'd expect of somebody his age and this early in his career. While I'm not a huge Danny Limelight fan, he can convey emotion, he's halfway decent, and he's got some personality. He'll stop and smile, or stop and admire is handiwork. He doesn't just stop and pose like some of the wrestlers on the show (although he also poses). I can kinda see him being big someday. Took a while to get going, but it was a decent match (except for that sloppy as fuck ending). I noticed that they played with the camera a lot to hide the fact Dante can't throw a convincing punch. And jfc, that ending... ~~Dante did a sloppy power move then topped it off with a clumsy 450 splash. Honestly, the guy really isn't ready for TV, but they keep putting him.~~ Lancer Archer v Luther -- Luther sucks. Although he has an interesting look, he has no business wrestling on tv anywhere. ~~That clumsy clothesline he used to knock Lance Archer through the ropes~~ -- which either clearly didn't even touch him or barely grazed him -- was among the worst things I saw all night. Between Archer's wrestling and Serpentico's heavy interference, it otherwise wasn't a completely awful match. And punches/forearms Luther threw where he was holding Lance with his other arm didn't look terrible At any rate, last night I was thinking that it kinda sucks that the only two wrestling shows I bother with happen to fall two nights in a row, so it's a lot of wrestling to watch at the start of the week then nothing for the rest. I never got around to watching that episode of AEW Dynamite a few weeks ago (or whenever it was, the one with Hikaru v Tay, Page v Starks, etc). I still kinda want to watch it, but... meh. I might try to watch part of this week's Dynamite for the Cage v Cage match and the war games match. And I'll probably try to go back and watch that D-Bryan v Reigns match on SD either last week or the week before. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953599578] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>AEW Dark 5/4 summary iirc, it was 14 matches in a 97-minute show, which isn't a terrible ratio even though some of those could have shorter. The Kilynn King match could have been half its length without losing anything... and they could have dropped the entire Jelly Nutella match. Team Taz tag match (Hobbes squashed both opponents while Ricky lay down outside the ring) -- Team Taz is always fun. Because its members are high-end jobbers, they tend to have have undercard matches which show them being dominate so they don't lose all credibility due to their almost-constant losses. Leyla Hirsch v Diamante ("revenge" match for ambush; Leyla won.) So-so match. They probably could have done more to set it up and get some mileage from it. Varsity Blondes vs jobbers (didn't watch) SCU vs jobbers -- Okay match. SCU is usually pretty good. Big Swole vs Megan Bayne (new job gal with a Greek gimmick; she's bigger than Swole) -- Megan Bayne seems like she could be a star. I was curious how tall Bayne is, but google isn't returning anything (other than info about her OVW record). Swole is apparently only 5'5" so maybe maybe Bane is 5'7". Nutella & Sonny vs jobbers (didn't watch, because Nutella and Sonny) Kilynn King v Julia Hart (another new job girl, this time with a cheerleader gimmick.) -- Julia reminds me a little of Alexa Bliss. Cute girl, but doesn't seem to be able to do much. Whereas Swole v Bayne was decent (probably because Bayne is ex-OVW), this was a long, non-competitive match. Also it was kinda weird that Kilynn wasn't ringside for Swole and vice versa, given that they've been acting like a stable Pac v Serpentico (was tempted to skip, but I'm happy I got to watch Aubrey cleaning up those ribbons) -- Pac is good, Serpentico is always lousy. It doesn't quite balance out, but it was decent enough. Bunny v Leila Grey (meh) The Acclaimed vs... whoever -- The planted fans were booing, which felt so forced Sky & Page v Hughes Brothers -- Sky & Page are a really fun tag team. The Hughes Brothers are very athlethic and can convincingly deliver power moves JD, Cesar Bonini, Nemeth v Dork Order -- I was tempted to skip this match (and if Peter Avalon had been in the match rather than at ringside, I definitely would have), but figured I'd watch a few minutes. In hindsight, I should have just skipped, but it was 8 minutes. Danny Limelight v Dante Martin -- I still dislike Top Flight, but the entrance is cool. Dante is absurdly green, although he might be decent someday. He just needs a lot of practice. For now, Dante is small, he's sloppy, he has no ring presence, and lacks charisma... which is what you'd expect of somebody his age and this early in his career. While I'm not a huge Danny Limelight fan, he can convey emotion, he's halfway decent, and he's got some personality. He'll stop and smile, or stop and admire is handiwork. He doesn't just stop and pose like some of the wrestlers on the show (although he also poses). I can kinda see him being big someday. Took a while to get going, but it was a decent match (except for that sloppy as fuck ending). I noticed that they played with the camera a lot to hide the fact Dante can't throw a convincing punch. And jfc, that ending... Dante did a sloppy power move then topped it off with a clumsy 450 splash. Honestly, the guy really isn't ready for TV, but they keep putting him. Lancer Archer v Luther -- Luther sucks. Although he has an interesting look, he has no business wrestling on tv anywhere. That clumsy clothesline he used to knock Lance Archer through the ropes -- which either clearly didn't even touch him or barely grazed him -- was among the worst things I saw all night. Between Archer's wrestling and Serpentico's heavy interference, it otherwise wasn't a completely awful match. And punches/forearms Luther threw where he was holding Lance with his other arm didn't look terrible At any rate, last night I was thinking that it kinda sucks that the only two wrestling shows I bother with happen to fall two nights in a row, so it's a lot of wrestling to watch at the start of the week then nothing for the rest. I never got around to watching that episode of AEW Dynamite a few weeks ago (or whenever it was, the one with Hikaru v Tay, Page v Starks, etc). I still kinda want to watch it, but... meh. I might try to watch part of this week's Dynamite for the Cage v Cage match and the war games match. And I'll probably try to go back and watch that D-Bryan v Reigns match on SD either last week or the week before. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 05/06/21 3:58:49 PM #53:	The Wave Master posted... Well, I kind of skimmed over NXT because my satellite went down because of bad weather and some of the show didn't record, but I didn't miss a match or anything important. I enjoyed the Kross stuff. Also the Way are now Woman Tag Team champs so that's good. Not important sure but still enjoyable. I'm Enjoying Cameron Grimes and Ted DiBiase skits too. Zeus posted... I might try to watch part of this week's Dynamite for the Cage v Cage match Wasn't this week. Baffling enough Pac and Orange are number one contenders to the AEW championship and will fight next week where the winner will face Omega at Double or Nothing. This ranking system is so convoluted that I simply can't follow. Blood and Guts match was fun though. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:953628606] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>The Wave Master posted... </cite> <quote>Well, I kind of skimmed over NXT because my satellite went down because of bad weather and some of the show didn't record, but I didn't miss a match or anything important.</quote> I enjoyed the Kross stuff. Also the Way are now Woman Tag Team champs so that's good. Not important sure but still enjoyable. I'm Enjoying Cameron Grimes and Ted DiBiase skits too. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote> I might try to watch part of this week's Dynamite for the Cage v Cage match</quote> Wasn't this week. Baffling enough Pac and Orange are number one contenders to the AEW championship and will fight next week where the winner will face Omega at Double or Nothing. This ranking system is so convoluted that I simply can't follow. Blood and Guts match was fun though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/07/21 6:56:36 PM #54:	I wound up watching MLW Fusion #131 yesterday or the day before... well, some of it, anyway. I watched a minute or two of the match featuring that comedy wrestler with the American luchador gimmick (el Gringo Loco?) or whatever then skipped the rest (if I wanted to watch a clumsy goof wrestle badly, I'd just watch a Jelly Nutella match). I was mostly hooked by the Rush/Reed 2 title match, which they hyped amazingly well. I knew absolutely nothing about either guy before starting the episode (which I watched on a whim, mostly because I thought the episode was just a clip from a title fight). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbFDHC_6bw8 Granted, as much as they built up Rush/Reed 2, as soon as they walked out to the ring I was... eh. But goddamn did that deliver, other than a few stupid things outside the ring (although they made some of those look fucking cool, except for the stupid backflip where one stood there to catch the other) I will say that the announcing during Rush/Reed 2 was probably some of the best I've heard in years. They played it like a serious presentation, which is weird given the goofs at AEW and WWE. They helped me care about the outcome of a match between 2 wrestlers I'd never seen before. ...of course, the end of the episode was ruined by some fucking cinematic nonsense for Azteca Underground. It took a serious match and followed it with dogshit. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953670977] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>I wound up watching MLW Fusion #131 yesterday or the day before... well, some of it, anyway. I watched a minute or two of the match featuring that comedy wrestler with the American luchador gimmick (el Gringo Loco?) or whatever then skipped the rest (if I wanted to watch a clumsy goof wrestle badly, I'd just watch a Jelly Nutella match). I was mostly hooked by the Rush/Reed 2 title match, which they hyped amazingly well. I knew absolutely nothing about either guy before starting the episode (which I watched on a whim, mostly because I thought the episode was just a clip from a title fight). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbFDHC_6bw8 Granted, as much as they built up Rush/Reed 2, as soon as they walked out to the ring I was... eh. But goddamn did that deliver, other than a few stupid things outside the ring (although they made some of those look fucking cool, except for the stupid backflip where one stood there to catch the other) I will say that the announcing during Rush/Reed 2 was probably some of the best I've heard in years. They played it like a serious presentation, which is weird given the goofs at AEW and WWE. They helped me care about the outcome of a match between 2 wrestlers I'd never seen before. ...of course, the end of the episode was ruined by some fucking cinematic nonsense for Azteca Underground. It took a serious match and followed it with dogshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wave Master 05/08/21 6:48:36 PM #55:	I enjoyed the Blood and Guts match from this Wednesday's edition of Dynamite. It was a fun match that actually had a lot of blood but no guts. Although, I'm sure you can't disembowel a living human being on network television, and this isn't early 90's HBO, so not there either. Unless you plan on employing New Jack. Now that fool will freaking kill you, and blame you for being too weak to survive. Funny side note: My wife thinks Kenny Omega is the ugliest Wrestler, and one of the ugliest human beings on the planet. When he was cutting the promo on Orange Cassidy she walked in and said, "Call me when his ugly ass is off the screen." And went to do something else. I couldn't help but laugh because it's hilarious. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:953702818] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>I enjoyed the Blood and Guts match from this Wednesday's edition of Dynamite. It was a fun match that actually had a lot of blood but no guts. Although, I'm sure you can't disembowel a living human being on network television, and this isn't early 90's HBO, so not there either. Unless you plan on employing New Jack. Now that fool will freaking kill you, and blame you for being too weak to survive. Funny side note: My wife thinks Kenny Omega is the ugliest Wrestler, and one of the ugliest human beings on the planet. When he was cutting the promo on Orange Cassidy she walked in and said, "Call me when his ugly ass is off the screen." And went to do something else. I couldn't help but laugh because it's hilarious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/08/21 8:14:56 PM #56:	The Wave Master posted... I'm sure you can't disembowel a living human being on network television, I'm pretty sure you can't blow up your rings on PPVs, either, so I'm not sure why idiots were promising that >_> The Wave Master posted... Funny side note: My wife thinks Kenny Omega is the ugliest Wrestler, and one of the ugliest human beings on the planet. When he was cutting the promo on Orange Cassidy she walked in and said, "Call me when his ugly ass is off the screen." And went to do something else. I couldn't help but laugh because it's hilarious. He is a weird-looking guy, tbh. I would have thought women would find him handsome, though. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953705290] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>The Wave Master posted... </cite> <quote>I'm sure you can't disembowel a living human being on network television,</quote> I'm pretty sure you can't blow up your rings on PPVs, either, so I'm not sure why idiots were promising that >_> The Wave Master posted... </cite> <quote>Funny side note: My wife thinks Kenny Omega is the ugliest Wrestler, and one of the ugliest human beings on the planet. When he was cutting the promo on Orange Cassidy she walked in and said, "Call me when his ugly ass is off the screen." And went to do something else. I couldn't help but laugh because it's hilarious.</quote> He is a weird-looking guy, tbh. I would have thought women would find him handsome, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrYuya 05/08/21 9:26:58 PM #57:	Is there even a point to pro wrestling today? I thought they got rid of the attitude stuff/hardcore bloody matches/language and the bikini matches. Why even watch it? --- It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of ass but still have plenty of bubblegum to chew at my leisure. <cite>DrYuya posted [p:953707193] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Is there even a point to pro wrestling today? I thought they got rid of the attitude stuff/hardcore bloody matches/language and the bikini matches. Why even watch it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/09/21 4:31:51 PM #58:	DrYuya posted... Is there even a point to pro wrestling today? Yes. DrYuya posted... I thought they got rid of the attitude stuff/hardcore bloody matches/language and the bikini matches. I was always lukewarm on the so-called attitude era (because it was more comedy nonsense than wrestling and is one reason why wrestling sucks today), hardcore wrestling (which STILL exists) is garbage, and the bikini matches sucked anyway. The biggest knocks against the wrestling industry today is that they employ far fewer grown men who look like they could legitimately kick peoples' asses, but that started in the attitude era where wrestlers sometimes started looking more like Andy Kaufman than Jerry Lawler (although a few of the greatest talents in recent years have been on the scrawnier side) and, mostly outside the WWE, who do obnoxious things that require obvious cooperation which only go right maybe 2/3s of the time. DrYuya posted... Why even watch it? Same reason you'd watch an action movie. You want to see some cool simulated fighting, etc. There aren't as many outstanding matches today, but they still happen. Unfortunately bad booking keeps a lot of stars from being huge. In the past 15 years, there have been guys who could have been big as an Austin or a Rock if they worked them right. However, old man Vince has lost it and Tony Khan has no fucking clue what he's doing. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953731468] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>DrYuya posted... </cite> <quote>Is there even a point to pro wrestling today?</quote> Yes. DrYuya posted... </cite> <quote>I thought they got rid of the attitude stuff/hardcore bloody matches/language and the bikini matches.</quote> I was always lukewarm on the so-called attitude era (because it was more comedy nonsense than wrestling and is one reason why wrestling sucks today), hardcore wrestling (which STILL exists) is garbage, and the bikini matches sucked anyway. The biggest knocks against the wrestling industry today is that they employ far fewer grown men who look like they could legitimately kick peoples' asses, but that started in the attitude era where wrestlers sometimes started looking more like Andy Kaufman than Jerry Lawler (although a few of the greatest talents in recent years have been on the scrawnier side) and, mostly outside the WWE, who do obnoxious things that require obvious cooperation which only go right maybe 2/3s of the time. DrYuya posted... </cite> <quote>Why even watch it?</quote> Same reason you'd watch an action movie. You want to see some cool simulated fighting, etc. There aren't as many outstanding matches today, but they still happen. Unfortunately bad booking keeps a lot of stars from being huge. In the past 15 years, there have been guys who could have been big as an Austin or a Rock if they worked them right. However, old man Vince has lost it and Tony Khan has no fucking clue what he's doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/11/21 12:51:04 AM #59:	AEW Elevation #9 -- 5/10/21 Jon Moxley Main Events + Tay Conti, Matt Hardy, Jurassic Express and More! \| AEW Elevation, Ep 8 Wrongly listed as ep 8, when ep 8 was actually week. Otherwise, its a close to 2 hour episode >_< The night started off with a Big Shoddy (aka Lee Johnson) match. I was tempted to skip it because Lee is kinda awful, but the other guy (David Ali, with the 0-5 record) seemed interesting. It was a sloppy match, but it had okay pacing. David Ali looked great, Big Shoddy looked like crap. Neither guy seemed to know how to throw a convincing punch, so Im not sure why they kept doing it. I love how afterward Tony mentions that Big Shoddys previous record was 0-29. Wtf, Tony? Way to bury a guy on Elevation. Next was Eddie Kingston v VSK, which I also was tempted to skip. There was one point in the match where it looked like VSK accidentally dropped Eddie on his head. And during this match, Tony points out that VSK hasnt won a match this year. Dont fucking remind us, Tony. That just makes your job guys look even worse and thereby makes the wins meaningless. Page + Sky vs Baron Black and Fuego del Sol (whos usually on my no-watch list) was the first match of the night I actually cared about seeing. I really like Ethan Page. The guy is big on spiking the ball. ~~When he kicked Baron Black when he was hitting the ropes, he made sure to wave to BB afterward.~~ Its the little gestures like that which go a long way. It was annoying as hell watching Scorpio and Page grown men taking hits from Fuego like that. Danny Limelight interview with Show/Paul Wight. Kinda like some of these interviews. I had thought that the feature was a waste, but it works (even if Paul Wight is an awful interviewer). Rosa vs Renee Michelle. Renee looks like somebody they just grabbed out of a lingerie magazine, so its probably unsurprising that the match just started with grappling where Rosa was leading most of the time. Really awful match. I think I remember a previous Renee Michelle fight, but I didnt think it was this bad. She shouldnt be in any recorded matches. Eddie Kingston promo on the Bucks. Was meh. Chuck Taylor vs Vary Morales (Supposedly just a 0-1 record? But I thought hed lost a dozen matches?). And for some reason they spent the whole match talking about how Kenny Omega buried Pockets, which they claim Oh, Kenny is scared! or Kenny is arrogant!. I think 3 minutes into the match they finally acknowledged Chuck and Vary were in the ring. Leyla Hirsh v Dani Jordan. It was at this point, 40 minutes in, that I realized its a 1hr52min episode. I figured Id watch a minute then skip the rest. Page & Sky backstage interview. Kind of a waste. Matt Sydal v Manny Smith (debut). Literally nothing to say about this one. Jade Cargill vs Reka Tehaka. I think this is the first Jade match Ive watched. Shes on the thin side, but she looks huge. She mostly used power moves, although she didnt dominate the fight. Reka is really cool. Hopefully shell be big in the future. For now, shes ~~a two-minute job gal~~. After the match, some guy claiming to be a wrestling lawyer interrupted and offered his services. Given that she doesnt seem like a talker, he might be a neat mouthpiece if he wasnt taller than her. A wrestling manager should never be taller than their client. Thats what made guys like Paul Heyman, Jimmy Hart, and Jim Cornette work. (The obvious exception is managers who are active wrestlers, like Matt Hardy.) Matt Hardy + Marq (of Private Party) vs two Nightmare Factory rejects (Dillion McQueen and I cant remember). The NF guys were lousy. I think Im going to just skip anything involving Dillion McQ going forward. Britt Baker v Rachyll Rose. Madi Wrenkowski v Tay Conti. Madi is still green, Tay is still clumsy. They really shouldnt be matched against each other. Out of the two, Madi might actually be a talent someday. However, Tay will always have a place based purely on her looks, if nothing else. Thunder Rosa backstage interview. Not a terrible segment, other than shouting out the Lights Out match. Chaos Project v Jurassic Express represented by Jungle Boy and Marko Stunt. FFS! Marko Stunt is the absolute worst. If it was Luchasaurus and Stunt, Id probably have just skipped. That said, it was nice to see ~~Luther power through all of Stunts crap~~. I also never realized exactly how tiny Serpentico is. Hes almost as small as Stunt. Kinda bullshit at the end where ~~Luther started selling Stunts moves, despite Stunt being tiny compared to him~~. Kassidy (rep Private Party & HFO) v Alex Reynolds (Dork Order). During this match, you could see Kilynn King among the wrestlers among the ringside plants. Kinda hard to get away with making her look like just a fan >_> Danny Limelight v Jon Moxley. This really didnt make any sense. ~~You have this interview building up poor Danny while sending him into an obvious job well, unless the only reason Danny was being built up was so his loss would be more meaningful~~. I also didnt realize how small Danny is. Otherwise it wwas at the end of a nearly 2-hour episode, so I was only half paying attention by this point. It looked decent from what I saw of it (mostly on Dannys side) All in all, it was a mostly lackluster episode. There were a few matches where I liked who was involved (and I'm fine with watching a terrible Madi Wrenkowski match), but there was really nothing great happening. Offhand, I think either the Jade match or the Danny match (that I only half-watched) might have been the best of the night. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953778642] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>AEW Elevation #9 -- 5/10/21 Jon Moxley Main Events + Tay Conti, Matt Hardy, Jurassic Express and More! \| AEW Elevation, Ep 8 Wrongly listed as ep 8, when ep 8 was actually week. Otherwise, its a close to 2 hour episode >_< The night started off with a Big Shoddy (aka Lee Johnson) match. I was tempted to skip it because Lee is kinda awful, but the other guy (David Ali, with the 0-5 record) seemed interesting. It was a sloppy match, but it had okay pacing. David Ali looked great, Big Shoddy looked like crap. Neither guy seemed to know how to throw a convincing punch, so Im not sure why they kept doing it. I love how afterward Tony mentions that Big Shoddys previous record was 0-29. Wtf, Tony? Way to bury a guy on Elevation. Next was Eddie Kingston v VSK, which I also was tempted to skip. There was one point in the match where it looked like VSK accidentally dropped Eddie on his head. And during this match, Tony points out that VSK hasnt won a match this year. Dont fucking remind us, Tony. That just makes your job guys look even worse and thereby makes the wins meaningless. Page + Sky vs Baron Black and Fuego del Sol (whos usually on my no-watch list) was the first match of the night I actually cared about seeing. I really like Ethan Page. The guy is big on spiking the ball. When he kicked Baron Black when he was hitting the ropes, he made sure to wave to BB afterward. Its the little gestures like that which go a long way. It was annoying as hell watching Scorpio and Page grown men taking hits from Fuego like that. Danny Limelight interview with Show/Paul Wight. Kinda like some of these interviews. I had thought that the feature was a waste, but it works (even if Paul Wight is an awful interviewer). Rosa vs Renee Michelle. Renee looks like somebody they just grabbed out of a lingerie magazine, so its probably unsurprising that the match just started with grappling where Rosa was leading most of the time. Really awful match. I think I remember a previous Renee Michelle fight, but I didnt think it was this bad. She shouldnt be in any recorded matches. Eddie Kingston promo on the Bucks. Was meh. Chuck Taylor vs Vary Morales (Supposedly just a 0-1 record? But I thought hed lost a dozen matches?). And for some reason they spent the whole match talking about how Kenny Omega buried Pockets, which they claim Oh, Kenny is scared! or Kenny is arrogant!. I think 3 minutes into the match they finally acknowledged Chuck and Vary were in the ring. Leyla Hirsh v Dani Jordan. It was at this point, 40 minutes in, that I realized its a 1hr52min episode. I figured Id watch a minute then skip the rest. Page & Sky backstage interview. Kind of a waste. Matt Sydal v Manny Smith (debut). Literally nothing to say about this one. Jade Cargill vs Reka Tehaka. I think this is the first Jade match Ive watched. Shes on the thin side, but she looks huge. She mostly used power moves, although she didnt dominate the fight. Reka is really cool. Hopefully shell be big in the future. For now, shes a two-minute job gal. After the match, some guy claiming to be a wrestling lawyer interrupted and offered his services. Given that she doesnt seem like a talker, he might be a neat mouthpiece if he wasnt taller than her. A wrestling manager should never be taller than their client. Thats what made guys like Paul Heyman, Jimmy Hart, and Jim Cornette work. (The obvious exception is managers who are active wrestlers, like Matt Hardy.) Matt Hardy + Marq (of Private Party) vs two Nightmare Factory rejects (Dillion McQueen and I cant remember). The NF guys were lousy. I think Im going to just skip anything involving Dillion McQ going forward. Britt Baker v Rachyll Rose. Madi Wrenkowski v Tay Conti. Madi is still green, Tay is still clumsy. They really shouldnt be matched against each other. Out of the two, Madi might actually be a talent someday. However, Tay will always have a place based purely on her looks, if nothing else. Thunder Rosa backstage interview. Not a terrible segment, other than shouting out the Lights Out match. Chaos Project v Jurassic Express represented by Jungle Boy and Marko Stunt. FFS! Marko Stunt is the absolute worst. If it was Luchasaurus and Stunt, Id probably have just skipped. That said, it was nice to see Luther power through all of Stunts crap. I also never realized exactly how tiny Serpentico is. Hes almost as small as Stunt. Kinda bullshit at the end where Luther started selling Stunts moves, despite Stunt being tiny compared to him. Kassidy (rep Private Party & HFO) v Alex Reynolds (Dork Order). During this match, you could see Kilynn King among the wrestlers among the ringside plants. Kinda hard to get away with making her look like just a fan >_> Danny Limelight v Jon Moxley. This really didnt make any sense. You have this interview building up poor Danny while sending him into an obvious job well, unless the only reason Danny was being built up was so his loss would be more meaningful. I also didnt realize how small Danny is. Otherwise it wwas at the end of a nearly 2-hour episode, so I was only half paying attention by this point. It looked decent from what I saw of it (mostly on Dannys side) All in all, it was a mostly lackluster episode. There were a few matches where I liked who was involved (and I'm fine with watching a terrible Madi Wrenkowski match), but there was really nothing great happening. Offhand, I think either the Jade match or the Danny match (that I only half-watched) might have been the best of the night. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/11/21 9:49:05 PM #60:	I love the infographic for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sYHJORQ4W4 And I lol in general over this, considering Eva Marie was fucking terrible, never knew what she was doing, and never seemed to care. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953808733] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>I love the infographic for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sYHJORQ4W4 And I lol in general over this, considering Eva Marie was fucking terrible, never knew what she was doing, and never seemed to care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/12/21 11:28:53 PM #61:	AEW Dark 21-05-11 Eh, weird introduction for this episode where Taz and Excalibur are talking about casual Tuesday. Otherwise it was another nearly 2-hour episode (1hr58min >_<). They could have trimmed that by getting rid of a match or two that added nothing to the program. Moxley & Kingston v some debuting job team. Something chocolate or another. They start by ambushing the two before the starting bell. It was a ridiculously short match. Three Dork Order members vs three jobbers not from the Dork Order. Idk, Andrew Palace has a lot of personality, but hes lousy. I watched maybe a minute then skipped the rest. Backstage interview with Diamante. Not much of a promo. I guess shes trying to hype her fight against Kris Statlander. When did Diamante become a job gal? Lance Archer v jobber (Angel Fashion). I also couldnt make out half of what Jake was saying over the crowd noise, etc. Lance Archer once again looked like a monster. It just reminds me how much of a joke it is that Kenny Omega is AEW champ. At any rate, its a match that should have ended fast, but they made it competitive which makes Archer look like crap. He should have just no-sold everything then delivered a finisher. QT, Comarado, and Salolo (?) v three jobbers, including Ryzin (who Im not sure why is just being used as a jobber since hes got a cool look. And other than not being able to throw a great punch (which is a running theme in AEW), hes pretty decent. Apparently Ryzin plans to do weddings. Good for him. https://www.ryzin.tv/ Interestingly, his site mentions hes an author but I cant seem to find any reference on it to anything hes written, which is weird given how much self-promotion hes got going on there. Gotta respect that hustle. Varsity Blonds accompanied by Julia Hart v two debuting job guys. Using Julia Hart, who has a cheerleader gimmick, as a valet makes sense. It was enough to get me to bother with a VB match. Theyre not terrible or anything, but they are boring as hell. Plus the gimmick (which I understand is a nod to Pillmans dads tag team of the same name) is meh. Willow Nightingale v Diamante. Oh, I guess Diamante isnt fighting Kris tonight? Maybe thats for Dynamite then. At any rate, I find Diamante boring. I honestly cant say if shes talented or not, because I to tune out during all of her matches. Willow is like twice Diamantes size, being a lot taller and far heavier. Some real clumsy shit like this match, including Willow just standing in position waiting to swing Diamante. ~~And the Code Red looked fake as shit.~~ Okay, Diamante is bad. Dante Martin v jobber (Aaron Frye). Not sure what the hell was going on (whether it was just my computer or what), but match looked sporadically choppy, like it was on 1.5x speed (and it kept up for the matches after? I tried reloading the page without any luck). Other than that, it was a pretty decent match. Aaron Frye whose physique reminds me of Booker Ts seems talented. Nyla Rose vs Ashley DAmbiose. Im so sick of Vicky Guerrera. She has go away heat rather than heel heat. Backstage interview with Dork Order. Mighty midget gave a try-hard promo. Alex Reynolds was meh. Evil Uno sounds goofy as fuck. Ryan Nemeth & Cesar Bononi v jobbers. Whole stable (now called Pretty Picture? Although they were the Wingmen at one point? Idk, they also talked about that earlier) were there, including Peter Avalon getting his ring entrance despite not wrestling (I think hes probably injured?). Avalon is such a fucking waste. Otherwise the group seems to have a new entrance theme, which I kinda like. Im not sure how I feel about the stable, which is basically just another job stable. Their comedy vignettes suck, but at least they feel less generic than they did when they were singles or in tags. Nemeth and Cesar arent a bad team, and I guess Avalon being ringside isnt the worst thing in the world so long as he doesnt wrestle (or cost them matches, at which point youd wonder why theyd want him there) Kris Statlander v Julia Hart. I dont know why the Best Friends and Pockets come ringside for her. Its weird because you have 3 people ringside for 1 wrestler. Kris has a decent ring entrance and a cool look. Julia is adorable, but she basically does nothing. She very clearly cant wrestle, and I dont mean that in the usual sense where Im saying somebody is awful, I mean she doesnt seem to have any training or experience. Kris did a better job of covering for that than Kilyn King did last week. And she even stops to adjust her hair when Kris has her overhead and is readying to drop her onto the mat. Wtf? Take her off tv (so to speak). Shes not ready. They should stick to having her as an on-screen valet until she can at least do the bare minimum. This is embarrassing. Jungle Boy (w/Marko Runt) v Marty Casaus. (59:01) Id rather see JB come out alone than with Marko. Otherwise Marty mugged for the camera. Hes a bigger, kinda tough-looking dude. Decent match. I enjoyed how Marty ~~teased a suicida but didnt follow through and then JB gets back in the ring and does a suicida.~~ Maybe my favorite match of the night. Casaus seems solid, and JB is generally good. Swole & Velvet v MK Twins. Kind of like a palette cleanse. After a reasonably good match, we get a kinda crappy one. Kilynn King was there in street clothes, but with her ink. Im guessing they must be filming Dark and Elevation on the same day or something, given that Kilynn was ringside on Elevation (and I happened to notice Madis face in the crowd during this match). At any rate, the match felt like a stepdown after the last one. JD Drake v 10 (Dork Order). JD Drake looks like shit, but so far hes been half-decent as a wrestler. If he was bigger, he could get away with that lousy physique. Instead, he needs to lose some weight and pick up some muscle definition. The first two lockups they had JD and 10 evenly matched, which looked neat. Despite the fact both guys look like shit, it was an okay match other than JD botching a roundhouse kick. The Acclaimed v Nutella & Sonny. No. Just no. I listened to Max Castors pre-match diss then skipped the match. Brian Cage v Bear Bronson. I hadnt seen Bear Country on either Dark or Elevation in a while and had been wondering what was going on. Im guessing Luchasaurus must have injured one of them during that Dynamite match some weeks ago (and I should mention that, prior to the match, I saw a AEW Botches clip from a previous match where Lucha damn near dropped one of them on their neck) and, as the match starts, the announcers confirmed that suspicion when they mentioned that Bear Boulder (the bigger, stronger of the two) was injured and will be out of commission for a few months. Otherwise I like Cage and I like Bear Country, so the match had two points in its favor off the bat. That said, there was a thing or two I didnt like, such as Bear dropping down on Cage but not turning that into a pin. At any rate, watching Bronson in singles kinda hammers home that he doesnt really work outside a tag team (whereas Boulder could work as a monster heel). At any rate, it was a match featuring two wrestlers I like and it more or less met expectations. Hobbs v Mike Sydal. Good match-up. Hobbs was great. Mike Sydal was spotty in places. Even with skipping, it was a long episode. Oh, and on the subject of what wrestling used to be like (in the WWE anyway): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lplY3s_h2Nc I miss shit like that. You had real giants of men fighting other larger than life men. Nowadays a lot of today's wrestlers are smaller than the managers back then. Granted, the interruption at the end of that was goofy. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953847463] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>AEW Dark 21-05-11 Eh, weird introduction for this episode where Taz and Excalibur are talking about casual Tuesday. Otherwise it was another nearly 2-hour episode (1hr58min >_<). They could have trimmed that by getting rid of a match or two that added nothing to the program. Moxley & Kingston v some debuting job team. Something chocolate or another. They start by ambushing the two before the starting bell. It was a ridiculously short match. Three Dork Order members vs three jobbers not from the Dork Order. Idk, Andrew Palace has a lot of personality, but hes lousy. I watched maybe a minute then skipped the rest. Backstage interview with Diamante. Not much of a promo. I guess shes trying to hype her fight against Kris Statlander. When did Diamante become a job gal? Lance Archer v jobber (Angel Fashion). I also couldnt make out half of what Jake was saying over the crowd noise, etc. Lance Archer once again looked like a monster. It just reminds me how much of a joke it is that Kenny Omega is AEW champ. At any rate, its a match that should have ended fast, but they made it competitive which makes Archer look like crap. He should have just no-sold everything then delivered a finisher. QT, Comarado, and Salolo (?) v three jobbers, including Ryzin (who Im not sure why is just being used as a jobber since hes got a cool look. And other than not being able to throw a great punch (which is a running theme in AEW), hes pretty decent. Apparently Ryzin plans to do weddings. Good for him. https://www.ryzin.tv/ Interestingly, his site mentions hes an author but I cant seem to find any reference on it to anything hes written, which is weird given how much self-promotion hes got going on there. Gotta respect that hustle. Varsity Blonds accompanied by Julia Hart v two debuting job guys. Using Julia Hart, who has a cheerleader gimmick, as a valet makes sense. It was enough to get me to bother with a VB match. Theyre not terrible or anything, but they are boring as hell. Plus the gimmick (which I understand is a nod to Pillmans dads tag team of the same name) is meh. Willow Nightingale v Diamante. Oh, I guess Diamante isnt fighting Kris tonight? Maybe thats for Dynamite then. At any rate, I find Diamante boring. I honestly cant say if shes talented or not, because I to tune out during all of her matches. Willow is like twice Diamantes size, being a lot taller and far heavier. Some real clumsy shit like this match, including Willow just standing in position waiting to swing Diamante. And the Code Red looked fake as shit. Okay, Diamante is bad. Dante Martin v jobber (Aaron Frye). Not sure what the hell was going on (whether it was just my computer or what), but match looked sporadically choppy, like it was on 1.5x speed (and it kept up for the matches after? I tried reloading the page without any luck). Other than that, it was a pretty decent match. Aaron Frye whose physique reminds me of Booker Ts seems talented. Nyla Rose vs Ashley DAmbiose. Im so sick of Vicky Guerrera. She has go away heat rather than heel heat. Backstage interview with Dork Order. Mighty midget gave a try-hard promo. Alex Reynolds was meh. Evil Uno sounds goofy as fuck. Ryan Nemeth & Cesar Bononi v jobbers. Whole stable (now called Pretty Picture? Although they were the Wingmen at one point? Idk, they also talked about that earlier) were there, including Peter Avalon getting his ring entrance despite not wrestling (I think hes probably injured?). Avalon is such a fucking waste. Otherwise the group seems to have a new entrance theme, which I kinda like. Im not sure how I feel about the stable, which is basically just another job stable. Their comedy vignettes suck, but at least they feel less generic than they did when they were singles or in tags. Nemeth and Cesar arent a bad team, and I guess Avalon being ringside isnt the worst thing in the world so long as he doesnt wrestle (or cost them matches, at which point youd wonder why theyd want him there) Kris Statlander v Julia Hart. I dont know why the Best Friends and Pockets come ringside for her. Its weird because you have 3 people ringside for 1 wrestler. Kris has a decent ring entrance and a cool look. Julia is adorable, but she basically does nothing. She very clearly cant wrestle, and I dont mean that in the usual sense where Im saying somebody is awful, I mean she doesnt seem to have any training or experience. Kris did a better job of covering for that than Kilyn King did last week. And she even stops to adjust her hair when Kris has her overhead and is readying to drop her onto the mat. Wtf? Take her off tv (so to speak). Shes not ready. They should stick to having her as an on-screen valet until she can at least do the bare minimum. This is embarrassing. Jungle Boy (w/Marko Runt) v Marty Casaus. (59:01) Id rather see JB come out alone than with Marko. Otherwise Marty mugged for the camera. Hes a bigger, kinda tough-looking dude. Decent match. I enjoyed how Marty teased a suicida but didnt follow through and then JB gets back in the ring and does a suicida. Maybe my favorite match of the night. Casaus seems solid, and JB is generally good. Swole & Velvet v MK Twins. Kind of like a palette cleanse. After a reasonably good match, we get a kinda crappy one. Kilynn King was there in street clothes, but with her ink. Im guessing they must be filming Dark and Elevation on the same day or something, given that Kilynn was ringside on Elevation (and I happened to notice Madis face in the crowd during this match). At any rate, the match felt like a stepdown after the last one. JD Drake v 10 (Dork Order). JD Drake looks like shit, but so far hes been half-decent as a wrestler. If he was bigger, he could get away with that lousy physique. Instead, he needs to lose some weight and pick up some muscle definition. The first two lockups they had JD and 10 evenly matched, which looked neat. Despite the fact both guys look like shit, it was an okay match other than JD botching a roundhouse kick. The Acclaimed v Nutella & Sonny. No. Just no. I listened to Max Castors pre-match diss then skipped the match. Brian Cage v Bear Bronson. I hadnt seen Bear Country on either Dark or Elevation in a while and had been wondering what was going on. Im guessing Luchasaurus must have injured one of them during that Dynamite match some weeks ago (and I should mention that, prior to the match, I saw a AEW Botches clip from a previous match where Lucha damn near dropped one of them on their neck) and, as the match starts, the announcers confirmed that suspicion when they mentioned that Bear Boulder (the bigger, stronger of the two) was injured and will be out of commission for a few months. Otherwise I like Cage and I like Bear Country, so the match had two points in its favor off the bat. That said, there was a thing or two I didnt like, such as Bear dropping down on Cage but not turning that into a pin. At any rate, watching Bronson in singles kinda hammers home that he doesnt really work outside a tag team (whereas Boulder could work as a monster heel). At any rate, it was a match featuring two wrestlers I like and it more or less met expectations. Hobbs v Mike Sydal. Good match-up. Hobbs was great. Mike Sydal was spotty in places. Even with skipping, it was a long episode. Oh, and on the subject of what wrestling used to be like (in the WWE anyway): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lplY3s_h2Nc I miss shit like that. You had real giants of men fighting other larger than life men. Nowadays a lot of today's wrestlers are smaller than the managers back then. Granted, the interruption at the end of that was goofy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/14/21 2:00:15 AM #62:	I'm guessing this match was supposed to end differently? https://twitter.com/aewbotches/status/1392683030028951553 ~~Pac looks surprised after winning. I'm assuming Pockets was meant to kick out.~~ --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953887499] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing this match was supposed to end differently? https://twitter.com/aewbotches/status/1392683030028951553 Pac looks surprised after winning. I'm assuming Pockets was meant to kick out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/14/21 10:11:16 AM #63:	Zeus posted... ~~Pac looks surprised after winning. I'm assuming Pockets was meant to kick out.~~ ~~He did "kick out", whether on his own or Pac helping him roll to the side.~~ ~~The match continued, but they called an audible, had Pac and the ref be distracted by Kenny Omega's goons, then Kenny hit him from behind w/ the belt leading to a double 10 count and a draw.~~ ~~AEW said the plan all along was to go to a 20 min. time limit draw, so the end result of a triple threat match was the same, but the path there got changed.~~ <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:953894763] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Pac looks surprised after winning. I'm assuming Pockets was meant to kick out.</quote>He did "kick out", whether on his own or Pac helping him roll to the side. The match continued, but they called an audible, had Pac and the ref be distracted by Kenny Omega's goons, then Kenny hit him from behind w/ the belt leading to a double 10 count and a draw. AEW said the plan all along was to go to a 20 min. time limit draw, so the end result of a triple threat match was the same, but the path there got changed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/14/21 8:55:02 PM #64:	New Jack died today. https://www.cagesideseats.com/indies-independent-wrestling-indy-promotions/2021/5/14/22437107/new-jack-dead-jerome-young-ecw-heart-attack streamofthesky posted... ~~He did "kick out", whether on his own or Pac helping him roll to the side.~~ ~~The match continued, but they called an audible, had Pac and the ref be distracted by Kenny Omega's goons, then Kenny hit him from behind w/ the belt leading to a double 10 count and a draw.~~ ~~AEW said the plan all along was to go to a 20 min. time limit draw, so the end result of a triple threat match was the same, but the path there got changed.~~ >_< Ugh.... On the plus side, if it is a ~~triple threat, then maybe Kenny will lose the belts... but more likely it's going to let the others lose and keep more credibility for a rematch.~~ --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953915097] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>New Jack died today. https://www.cagesideseats.com/indies-independent-wrestling-indy-promotions/2021/5/14/22437107/new-jack-dead-jerome-young-ecw-heart-attack streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>He did "kick out", whether on his own or Pac helping him roll to the side. The match continued, but they called an audible, had Pac and the ref be distracted by Kenny Omega's goons, then Kenny hit him from behind w/ the belt leading to a double 10 count and a draw. AEW said the plan all along was to go to a 20 min. time limit draw, so the end result of a triple threat match was the same, but the path there got changed.</quote> >_< Ugh.... On the plus side, if it is a triple threat, then maybe Kenny will lose the belts... but more likely it's going to let the others lose and keep more credibility for a rematch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/15/21 9:50:48 PM #65:	You remember how I questioned whether Julia Hart had any wrestling training or experience? Today I finally got back to watching the Nightmare Factory Showcase #2 (which is the wrestling equivalent of a high school play), and I was surprised to see a familiar face show up: https://youtu.be/WD-ojDuZd0o?t=2807 Again, she's really cute, but she's fucking awful. I got bored and wasn't really watching halfway through that match, but I caught some of Hyena Hera and her in-ring doesn't look terrible. The other girls are super-awkward in there (but they're still just finishing up wrestling school), so they'll walk and run poorly (ie, awkward starts and stops because they're unsure of themselves). Hyena Hera seemed a lot more fluid. Which also reminds me that during either Dark or Elevation, one of the new job gals put up her own leg -- rather than it being grabbed -- while was being pinned then lowered it when she realized her opponent didn't have it. It was an embarrassing as fuck moment. I think it might have been Julia. However, the worst one in the showcase was the fake millionaire with his fake jewelry because that gimmick looked so bush league. It's kinda good and bad that they do a showcase like this. On one hand, it gives the wrestlers something to show people. However, almost all of them look super-green and awful so once they do have some real work under their belt, this is going to hang over their heads. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953949564] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>You remember how I questioned whether Julia Hart had any wrestling training or experience? Today I finally got back to watching the Nightmare Factory Showcase #2 (which is the wrestling equivalent of a high school play), and I was surprised to see a familiar face show up: https://youtu.be/WD-ojDuZd0o?t=2807 Again, she's really cute, but she's fucking awful. I got bored and wasn't really watching halfway through that match, but I caught some of Hyena Hera and her in-ring doesn't look terrible. The other girls are super-awkward in there (but they're still just finishing up wrestling school), so they'll walk and run poorly (ie, awkward starts and stops because they're unsure of themselves). Hyena Hera seemed a lot more fluid. Which also reminds me that during either Dark or Elevation, one of the new job gals put up her own leg -- rather than it being grabbed -- while was being pinned then lowered it when she realized her opponent didn't have it. It was an embarrassing as fuck moment. I think it might have been Julia. However, the worst one in the showcase was the fake millionaire with his fake jewelry because that gimmick looked so bush league. It's kinda good and bad that they do a showcase like this. On one hand, it gives the wrestlers something to show people. However, almost all of them look super-green and awful so once they do have some real work under their belt, this is going to hang over their heads. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/16/21 4:22:16 AM #66:	Paul Heyman's New Jack eulogy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVZqv7JOFvc --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953957656] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Paul Heyman's New Jack eulogy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVZqv7JOFvc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/17/21 9:05:54 PM #67:	So many of Luchasaurus's botches are just horrific... https://twitter.com/BotchesAew/status/1394352802240008195 As much as I dislike Brandon Cutlet (other than his entrance and attire), that was painful to watch. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954017949] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>So many of Luchasaurus's botches are just horrific... https://twitter.com/BotchesAew/status/1394352802240008195 As much as I dislike Brandon Cutlet (other than his entrance and attire), that was painful to watch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/17/21 9:11:40 PM #68:	I like Brandon Cutler. Never understood all the hate the guy gets, he's a jobber on Dark for the most part and will probably never win a singles title, but people rage against him just b/c he's friends w/ the Young Bucks and I guess that means nepotism? Dude's fairly talented and puts on entertaining matches, and his ring entrance/attire is top notch. And yowtch! That's a horrible botch on the choke slam, poor Cutler. That was a Nia Jax caliber botch... <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:954018123] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>I like Brandon Cutler. Never understood all the hate the guy gets, he's a jobber on Dark for the most part and will probably never win a singles title, but people rage against him just b/c he's friends w/ the Young Bucks and I guess that means nepotism? Dude's fairly talented and puts on entertaining matches, and his ring entrance/attire is top notch. And yowtch! That's a horrible botch on the choke slam, poor Cutler. That was a Nia Jax caliber botch... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Abibde 05/17/21 9:37:24 PM #69:	I am late to this topic, but here I am. For anybody who has not seen the wrestling discussions in the Geek series of topics, I am the resident AEW mark. shrugs Got me to love wrestling again, after all. --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:954018915] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>I am late to this topic, but here I am. For anybody who has not seen the wrestling discussions in the Geek series of topics, I am the resident AEW mark. shrugs Got me to love wrestling again, after all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/18/21 3:29:12 PM #70:	streamofthesky posted... I like Brandon Cutler. Never understood all the hate the guy gets, he's a jobber on Dark for the most part and will probably never win a singles title, but people rage against him just b/c he's friends w/ the Young Bucks and I guess that means nepotism? Dude's fairly talented and puts on entertaining matches, and his ring entrance/attire is top notch. I like the gimmick, but I don't think he's much of a worker. However, some of the stuff he's done outside the ring has bugged me a bit: https://www.cagesideseats.com/2020/12/14/22173932/jim-ross-criticizes-indie-wrestling-style-brandon-cutler-ftr-respond-argue And I'll admit that his connection to the Bucks doesn't exactly endear him to me. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954044319] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>I like Brandon Cutler. Never understood all the hate the guy gets, he's a jobber on Dark for the most part and will probably never win a singles title, but people rage against him just b/c he's friends w/ the Young Bucks and I guess that means nepotism? Dude's fairly talented and puts on entertaining matches, and his ring entrance/attire is top notch.</quote> I like the gimmick, but I don't think he's much of a worker. However, some of the stuff he's done outside the ring has bugged me a bit: https://www.cagesideseats.com/2020/12/14/22173932/jim-ross-criticizes-indie-wrestling-style-brandon-cutler-ftr-respond-argue And I'll admit that his connection to the Bucks doesn't exactly endear him to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/18/21 3:38:04 PM #71:	Zeus posted... I like the gimmick, but I don't think he's much of a worker. However, some of the stuff he's done outside the ring has bugged me a bit: https://www.cagesideseats.com/2020/12/14/22173932/jim-ross-criticizes-indie-wrestling-style-brandon-cutler-ftr-respond-argue And I'll admit that his connection to the Bucks doesn't exactly endear him to me. You're mad because he made a joke on twitter that broke kayfabe? I'm not a fan of such obvious spots, either. But like the article says, Young Bucks do them a lot and their matches tend to have some of the highest views for AEW. Meanwhile, the more "old fashioned" wrestling seems to bleed viewers. Like..wasn't "old school" the whole point of that NWA Power show that flopped hard? <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:954044598] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>I like the gimmick, but I don't think he's much of a worker. However, some of the stuff he's done outside the ring has bugged me a bit: https://www.cagesideseats.com/2020/12/14/22173932/jim-ross-criticizes-indie-wrestling-style-brandon-cutler-ftr-respond-argue And I'll admit that his connection to the Bucks doesn't exactly endear him to me.</quote>You're mad because he made a joke on twitter that broke kayfabe? I'm not a fan of such obvious spots, either. But like the article says, Young Bucks do them a lot and their matches tend to have some of the highest views for AEW. Meanwhile, the more "old fashioned" wrestling seems to bleed viewers. Like..wasn't "old school" the whole point of that NWA Power show that flopped hard? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/18/21 4:58:29 PM #72:	streamofthesky posted... You're mad because he made a joke on twitter that broke kayfabe? And defended one of the stupidest things in wrestling today. streamofthesky posted... I'm not a fan of such obvious spots, either. But like the article says, Young Bucks do them a lot and their matches tend to have some of the highest views for AEW. Meanwhile, the more "old fashioned" wrestling seems to bleed viewers. Wrestling's viewership has basically gone to shit because of stupidity like that. The industry has leaned more and more in that direction and the viewership has bled out as a result. And idiots like the Young Cucks take pride in trying to ruin wrestling and drive down the viewership, which is why they wrote a confession entitled Killing the Business. streamofthesky posted... Like..wasn't "old school" the whole point of that NWA Power show that flopped hard? NWA Powerrr was a matter of them having a "If you build it, they will come", which doesn't really work 99% of the time. Most of the reason it never got big was because nobody knew it existed in the first place. I didn't learn about it until AFTER it was already gone and the episodes weren't even available at that point. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954047246] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>You're mad because he made a joke on twitter that broke kayfabe?</quote> And defended one of the stupidest things in wrestling today. streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not a fan of such obvious spots, either. But like the article says, Young Bucks do them a lot and their matches tend to have some of the highest views for AEW. Meanwhile, the more "old fashioned" wrestling seems to bleed viewers.</quote> Wrestling's viewership has basically gone to shit because of stupidity like that. The industry has leaned more and more in that direction and the viewership has bled out as a result. And idiots like the Young Cucks take pride in trying to ruin wrestling and drive down the viewership, which is why they wrote a confession entitled Killing the Business. streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>Like..wasn't "old school" the whole point of that NWA Power show that flopped hard?</quote> NWA Powerrr was a matter of them having a "If you build it, they will come", which doesn't really work 99% of the time. Most of the reason it never got big was because nobody knew it existed in the first place. I didn't learn about it until AFTER it was already gone and the episodes weren't even available at that point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/19/21 12:43:10 AM #73:	AEW Elevation 5/27/21 This weeks episode is. 2 hours 27 minutes long >_< It was also the first week that they didnt have an episode number for it. Jungle Boy v Adrian Alanis (0-4 record) Fucking Marco Runt running out and spoiling that ring entrance At any rate, Alanis sucks, but JB was more than enough to carry the match. Aaron Solow v Dustin Rhodes -- I love how Big Show claimed the stairs weigh 275 pounds. Its a good way of selling Camarados strength, but bullshit. Love Dustins facepaint, etc. The one thing I dont get is that the Factory brings an army to the ring but Dustin is alone. Wtf? At any rate, its been a while since I saw Dustin wrestle and this was a kinda so-so match. Moxley & E Kingston v Danny Limelight and Royce Isaacs I guess Danny and Royce are just a team now? AEW really doesnt believe in building up these partnerships. Eddy and Danny were great in the early going and then Eddy tagged to Moxley and Danny tagged in Royce. The match was kinda meh after that. Highlight of the match was ~~Danny doing a double rope jump into a DDT.~~ Looked great. Jake the Snake promo with Lance Archer. I guess Jake is focused on Sting, but Lance wants to fight Miro for the TNT title? Idk, I couldnt make out half of what Jake said, but it sounded like he meant whatever it was he said. Lance v Bear Bronson I like Lance, I like Bear Country, so it naturally had my attention even if Bear is clearly going to be doing a job and probably a quick one at that. Lance v Boulder would have looked convincing, but Bronson is the smaller member of Bear Country. So even though they were playing it as a big man match, Bronson isnt big enough. The early going was a lot of trading chops and shots, which was fun for what it was, but meh. It also wound up being a lot more competitive than I expected. The announcing was shit, though. This was the 42-minute mark, and theyd only done 4 matches. Paul Wight interview with Ryan Nemeth. The interview indirectly referenced the fact that hes Dolph Zigglers little brother (which I had to do a double-take at the photo, since the Sydals look so much like Ziggler as well). Looking at his wiki, I guess he was with NXT before I started watching. Idk, hes an okay wrestler, but hes nowhere near on par with Dolph. Apparently the Hollywood Hunk thing references the fact hes done some tv and film work over the years. I kinda like these segments, although this one did less for Ryan than the other ones did for theirs. Leyla Hirsh v Natalia Markova. Pre-match discusses how Markova is a champ from Shine. Super-ugly woman, looks like shes had a lot of work done to her face. Shes also Russian and tiny. I dont like Leyla. Shes too tiny for that gimmick. Sky & Ethan Page v jobbers. Fun match, as always. Matt Hardy and Bunny promo for Kilynn King. Have you ever gone down the rabbit hole? Bunny asks. >_> Kilynn King v Bunny. I had been wondering about Kilynns height. Big Show claimed it was 60, but Tony mentions its really 61. Anyway its weird to see the whole HFO come out with Bunny. Wtf? Tony notes that Kilynn has only been wrestling 2 years, which I guess explains why she still seems a bit green. Shes got a good amount of star power, though. On the other hand, Bunny is hot and shes got good ring presence, but shes kinda meh. Shes got good flexibility, shes athletic, but her moves are absurdly limited. Not a bad Bunny match, though. The Acclaimed v whoever. Meh. Sky & Ethan page backstage segment. Theyre crowing about their match, and then talk about how they helped Miro by making sure Sting didnt get involved in Darbys match despite the fact Sting stood by and did NOTHING while Miro beat Darby up before the match (which they should have rung the bell for). Im not sure why theyre so happy about Darbys ~~title loss, because I thought they were messing with him in order to get it for themselves.~~ QT Marshall v Baron Black (whose record is listed as 0-10, which honestly seems low they must not be counting all of his tag losses and some other shit, because he does a job like every week). Bit over halfway through this stupidly long episode of Elevation. Probably one of BBs better matches. That near-fall near the end should have just been a fall. There was no reason to drag that out. Later on, the match revealed that Baron Black had trained with the Nightmare Factory something that hasnt ever come up, even as hes jobbed to other members which was a weird detail. Anyway, it went 5 minutes longer than it should. Nutella v Daniel Garcia. Skipped. (1:36:00) Backstage segment with QT, Ogogo, etc. QT bashes Jacksonville and praises AEW going back on the road. Ogogo does some talking. Hes got a bit of a lisp. Hes cutting a counter-promo on Cody, criticizing America. Pretty shit promo. Honestly, Ogogo looks like he could be somebody, but this kinda kills him. Private Party v Alex Reynolds & Alan 5 Angels. Private Party is wrestling in street clothes again. The pre-match sees the ref ejecting the DO from ringside and then Matt & Blade get ejected. The match started outside the ring. After a minute or two of that, I just skipped the rest. I did see the very end which showed that ~~Matt had snuck back to interfere~~. The aftermath just had ~~more beating on them, then the Dork Order showed for the save~~. Backstage with Kris Statlander who gets interrupted by Britt Baker who gets interrupted by Ishida. I guess Reba is going to fight Ishida on Dynamite now? Meh. Ryan & JD Drake v Roman Rozell and Derek Pisaturo (with First Sgt) -- Given that its Ryan and JD, Im not sure which side is doing the job so Im listing both. Granted, Im assuming that Pretty Picture or whatever theyre calling themselves is going to win, but meh. The other side looks pretty cool. Recap of something that happened on Dynamite. Didnt look bad, but I dont want Dynamite bleeding into Elevation. If that gets to be a regular thing, Im not bothering with Elevation. Tay Conti v Kiah Dream (debut) -- What can I say about Tay that I havent already? Shes cute, but clumsy and does a lot of stuff she probably shouldnt be trusted to do. Penta v Robo (debut) It was alright. No real comments. Thunder Rosa v Robyn Renegade (debut) -- Probably a half-decent match, but I was pretty worn out by this point so I didnt pay a ton of attention although it notably had Paul No More BS Wight repeatedly mispronounce Dogecoin as Dodgecoin. Backstage with Pretty Picture. Ryan is giving a self-congratulatory speech, JD interrupts. Cesar whose lisp is terrible interrupts him. This segment added nothing except to the run time. Mike Sydal v Brian Cage -- Final match of the night and it disappoints. Mike launched a drop kick that clearly didnt connect. He ensengiris (sp?) Cage who, a minute later, stumbles out of the ring (all the way from the center!) out onto the floor so Mike can launch a suicida. I was tempted to skip the rest when he was going for it. However, it was made a little better since ~~Cage caught Mike and slammed him~~. Later on, Cage put his arms out like he was expecting a hold, but Mike just kicked him. This was awful. Then later on Cage does a ~~jumping knee strike on Mike while hes on the turnbuckle while very visibly slapping Mikes back for a noise~~. Wtf? This is some sloppy, stupid shit. The main event was fucking awful. The rest of the night was ups and downs. Oh, and apparently Cage has a finisher called Weapon X. The guy who looks like Wolverine has a finisher called Weapon X. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954062206] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>AEW Elevation 5/27/21 This weeks episode is. 2 hours 27 minutes long >_< It was also the first week that they didnt have an episode number for it. Jungle Boy v Adrian Alanis (0-4 record) Fucking Marco Runt running out and spoiling that ring entrance At any rate, Alanis sucks, but JB was more than enough to carry the match. Aaron Solow v Dustin Rhodes -- I love how Big Show claimed the stairs weigh 275 pounds. Its a good way of selling Camarados strength, but bullshit. Love Dustins facepaint, etc. The one thing I dont get is that the Factory brings an army to the ring but Dustin is alone. Wtf? At any rate, its been a while since I saw Dustin wrestle and this was a kinda so-so match. Moxley & E Kingston v Danny Limelight and Royce Isaacs I guess Danny and Royce are just a team now? AEW really doesnt believe in building up these partnerships. Eddy and Danny were great in the early going and then Eddy tagged to Moxley and Danny tagged in Royce. The match was kinda meh after that. Highlight of the match was Danny doing a double rope jump into a DDT. Looked great. Jake the Snake promo with Lance Archer. I guess Jake is focused on Sting, but Lance wants to fight Miro for the TNT title? Idk, I couldnt make out half of what Jake said, but it sounded like he meant whatever it was he said. Lance v Bear Bronson I like Lance, I like Bear Country, so it naturally had my attention even if Bear is clearly going to be doing a job and probably a quick one at that. Lance v Boulder would have looked convincing, but Bronson is the smaller member of Bear Country. So even though they were playing it as a big man match, Bronson isnt big enough. The early going was a lot of trading chops and shots, which was fun for what it was, but meh. It also wound up being a lot more competitive than I expected. The announcing was shit, though. This was the 42-minute mark, and theyd only done 4 matches. Paul Wight interview with Ryan Nemeth. The interview indirectly referenced the fact that hes Dolph Zigglers little brother (which I had to do a double-take at the photo, since the Sydals look so much like Ziggler as well). Looking at his wiki, I guess he was with NXT before I started watching. Idk, hes an okay wrestler, but hes nowhere near on par with Dolph. Apparently the Hollywood Hunk thing references the fact hes done some tv and film work over the years. I kinda like these segments, although this one did less for Ryan than the other ones did for theirs. Leyla Hirsh v Natalia Markova. Pre-match discusses how Markova is a champ from Shine. Super-ugly woman, looks like shes had a lot of work done to her face. Shes also Russian and tiny. I dont like Leyla. Shes too tiny for that gimmick. Sky & Ethan Page v jobbers. Fun match, as always. Matt Hardy and Bunny promo for Kilynn King. Have you ever gone down the rabbit hole? Bunny asks. >_> Kilynn King v Bunny. I had been wondering about Kilynns height. Big Show claimed it was 60, but Tony mentions its really 61. Anyway its weird to see the whole HFO come out with Bunny. Wtf? Tony notes that Kilynn has only been wrestling 2 years, which I guess explains why she still seems a bit green. Shes got a good amount of star power, though. On the other hand, Bunny is hot and shes got good ring presence, but shes kinda meh. Shes got good flexibility, shes athletic, but her moves are absurdly limited. Not a bad Bunny match, though. The Acclaimed v whoever. Meh. Sky & Ethan page backstage segment. Theyre crowing about their match, and then talk about how they helped Miro by making sure Sting didnt get involved in Darbys match despite the fact Sting stood by and did NOTHING while Miro beat Darby up before the match (which they should have rung the bell for). Im not sure why theyre so happy about Darbys title loss, because I thought they were messing with him in order to get it for themselves. QT Marshall v Baron Black (whose record is listed as 0-10, which honestly seems low they must not be counting all of his tag losses and some other shit, because he does a job like every week). Bit over halfway through this stupidly long episode of Elevation. Probably one of BBs better matches. That near-fall near the end should have just been a fall. There was no reason to drag that out. Later on, the match revealed that Baron Black had trained with the Nightmare Factory something that hasnt ever come up, even as hes jobbed to other members which was a weird detail. Anyway, it went 5 minutes longer than it should. Nutella v Daniel Garcia. Skipped. (1:36:00) Backstage segment with QT, Ogogo, etc. QT bashes Jacksonville and praises AEW going back on the road. Ogogo does some talking. Hes got a bit of a lisp. Hes cutting a counter-promo on Cody, criticizing America. Pretty shit promo. Honestly, Ogogo looks like he could be somebody, but this kinda kills him. Private Party v Alex Reynolds & Alan 5 Angels. Private Party is wrestling in street clothes again. The pre-match sees the ref ejecting the DO from ringside and then Matt & Blade get ejected. The match started outside the ring. After a minute or two of that, I just skipped the rest. I did see the very end which showed that Matt had snuck back to interfere. The aftermath just had more beating on them, then the Dork Order showed for the save. Backstage with Kris Statlander who gets interrupted by Britt Baker who gets interrupted by Ishida. I guess Reba is going to fight Ishida on Dynamite now? Meh. Ryan & JD Drake v Roman Rozell and Derek Pisaturo (with First Sgt) -- Given that its Ryan and JD, Im not sure which side is doing the job so Im listing both. Granted, Im assuming that Pretty Picture or whatever theyre calling themselves is going to win, but meh. The other side looks pretty cool. Recap of something that happened on Dynamite. Didnt look bad, but I dont want Dynamite bleeding into Elevation. If that gets to be a regular thing, Im not bothering with Elevation. Tay Conti v Kiah Dream (debut) -- What can I say about Tay that I havent already? Shes cute, but clumsy and does a lot of stuff she probably shouldnt be trusted to do. Penta v Robo (debut) It was alright. No real comments. Thunder Rosa v Robyn Renegade (debut) -- Probably a half-decent match, but I was pretty worn out by this point so I didnt pay a ton of attention although it notably had Paul No More BS Wight repeatedly mispronounce Dogecoin as Dodgecoin. Backstage with Pretty Picture. Ryan is giving a self-congratulatory speech, JD interrupts. Cesar whose lisp is terrible interrupts him. This segment added nothing except to the run time. Mike Sydal v Brian Cage -- Final match of the night and it disappoints. Mike launched a drop kick that clearly didnt connect. He ensengiris (sp?) Cage who, a minute later, stumbles out of the ring (all the way from the center!) out onto the floor so Mike can launch a suicida. I was tempted to skip the rest when he was going for it. However, it was made a little better since Cage caught Mike and slammed him. Later on, Cage put his arms out like he was expecting a hold, but Mike just kicked him. This was awful. Then later on Cage does a jumping knee strike on Mike while hes on the turnbuckle while very visibly slapping Mikes back for a noise. Wtf? This is some sloppy, stupid shit. The main event was fucking awful. The rest of the night was ups and downs. Oh, and apparently Cage has a finisher called Weapon X. The guy who looks like Wolverine has a finisher called Weapon X. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 05/19/21 1:47:56 PM #74:	My review of Raw: Just watch last weeks. I did enjoy Backlash though it was predictable. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:954077884] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>My review of Raw: Just watch last weeks. I did enjoy Backlash though it was predictable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Abibde 05/19/21 7:18:14 PM #75:	From multiple sources, so I picked one from a hat: https://www.sportskeeda.com/aew/news-aew-announces-new-show-aew-rampage In brief: Dynamite is going to TBS, still at 8 PM (EST) on Wednesdays. Rampage will premiere on TNT on Fridays at 10 PM (EST), starting August 13. TNT is also getting four annual "Clash of the Champions"-style events. There will still be four AEW PPVs per year. Dark and Elevation will still be a thing on You Tube. --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:954089692] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>From multiple sources, so I picked one from a hat: https://www.sportskeeda.com/aew/news-aew-announces-new-show-aew-rampage In brief: Dynamite is going to TBS, still at 8 PM (EST) on Wednesdays. Rampage will premiere on TNT on Fridays at 10 PM (EST), starting August 13. TNT is also getting four annual "Clash of the Champions"-style events. There will still be four AEW PPVs per year. Dark and Elevation will still be a thing on You Tube. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/19/21 11:49:53 PM #76:	AEW Dark 5/18/21 was about 2 hours ago. I have a few pages of notes, but the only real highlights (besides Ricky Starks doing color for a bit) are: 1) Matt Sydal v Marty Casaus, which was the best match of the night (and this week's best Elevation match was Jungle Boy v Cassaus). Other than mugging for the camera like a complete moron, Casaus is pretty good 2) The Varsity Blondes wrestling singles matches rather than as a tag. Brian Pillman Jr even managed to get a bit out of Luther. Otherwise there were a lot of weird, shitty promos that have to be seen to be believed. (Lance Archer must have got into Jake's drugs for one of them, and there's a lightbulb just swinging around for no reason.) Oh, and still nothing resembling closure on that weird Nyla/Madi angle. I assumed they were either going to run an angle where Nyla is trying out tag partners or Madi was finally getting a push, but Madi wasn't even on this week (and Nyla fought Reka). Oh, and I've got a say a thing or two about fucking Dante Martin's match: Dante Martin v Falco. Dante Martin really needs some charisma. He always has this nervous, spooked look on his face. Finish looked a bit sloppy. ~~Dante clearly drove his knee into Falcos chest and leg into Falcos face, where the move is supposed to be midsection to midsection.~~ --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954098788] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>AEW Dark 5/18/21 was about 2 hours ago. I have a few pages of notes, but the only real highlights (besides Ricky Starks doing color for a bit) are: 1) Matt Sydal v Marty Casaus, which was the best match of the night (and this week's best Elevation match was Jungle Boy v Cassaus). Other than mugging for the camera like a complete moron, Casaus is pretty good 2) The Varsity Blondes wrestling singles matches rather than as a tag. Brian Pillman Jr even managed to get a bit out of Luther. Otherwise there were a lot of weird, shitty promos that have to be seen to be believed. (Lance Archer must have got into Jake's drugs for one of them, and there's a lightbulb just swinging around for no reason.) Oh, and still nothing resembling closure on that weird Nyla/Madi angle. I assumed they were either going to run an angle where Nyla is trying out tag partners or Madi was finally getting a push, but Madi wasn't even on this week (and Nyla fought Reka). Oh, and I've got a say a thing or two about fucking Dante Martin's match: <quote>Dante Martin v Falco. Dante Martin really needs some charisma. He always has this nervous, spooked look on his face. Finish looked a bit sloppy. Dante clearly drove his knee into Falcos chest and leg into Falcos face, where the move is supposed to be midsection to midsection.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/19/21 11:52:24 PM #77:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x83M3_RdbJY I_Abibde posted... From multiple sources, so I picked one from a hat: https://www.sportskeeda.com/aew/news-aew-announces-new-show-aew-rampage In brief: Dynamite is going to TBS, still at 8 PM (EST) on Wednesdays. Rampage will premiere on TNT on Fridays at 10 PM (EST), starting August 13. TNT is also getting four annual "Clash of the Champions"-style events. There will still be four AEW PPVs per year. Dark and Elevation will still be a thing on You Tube. Rampage is a neat name, but I'm kinda wondering what they even want to do there. I'm also wondering how they're going to handle Dark & Elevation once AEW starts touring. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954098864] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x83M3_RdbJY I_Abibde posted... </cite> <quote>From multiple sources, so I picked one from a hat: https://www.sportskeeda.com/aew/news-aew-announces-new-show-aew-rampage In brief: Dynamite is going to TBS, still at 8 PM (EST) on Wednesdays. Rampage will premiere on TNT on Fridays at 10 PM (EST), starting August 13. TNT is also getting four annual "Clash of the Champions"-style events. There will still be four AEW PPVs per year. Dark and Elevation will still be a thing on You Tube.</quote> Rampage is a neat name, but I'm kinda wondering what they even want to do there. I'm also wondering how they're going to handle Dark & Elevation once AEW starts touring. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/21/21 2:14:38 AM #78:	Cornette's New Jack tribute was pretty decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4LMZ_twlcs Also I just realized Wave has been gone for 10 days now. I hope he's alright. I kinda thought something was weird when he didn't chime in on New Jack, given his previous remarks about him. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954138517] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Cornette's New Jack tribute was pretty decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4LMZ_twlcs Also I just realized Wave has been gone for 10 days now. I hope he's alright. I kinda thought something was weird when he didn't chime in on New Jack, given his previous remarks about him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wave Master 05/23/21 3:42:38 PM #79:	Sorry I haven't been around. Stupid house needs stupid maintenance that I stupidly have to pay for, but I have been watching all the wrestling shows. Funny story, I don't fold clothes because my wife wants them folded a certain way, and my mom taught me a difficult way, so I've given up, and we've made peace. I put on the Heartbreak documentary from A&E thinking my wife wouldn't be interested and would fold the clothes. It didn't work as she stopped folding the clothes and starting watching the show and drinking her tea. The clothes are still pulled on the love seat in the living room. She swears she'll get to them, bit it's been a few days. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:954219536] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Sorry I haven't been around. Stupid house needs stupid maintenance that I stupidly have to pay for, but I have been watching all the wrestling shows. Funny story, I don't fold clothes because my wife wants them folded a certain way, and my mom taught me a difficult way, so I've given up, and we've made peace. I put on the Heartbreak documentary from A&E thinking my wife wouldn't be interested and would fold the clothes. It didn't work as she stopped folding the clothes and starting watching the show and drinking her tea. The clothes are still pulled on the love seat in the living room. She swears she'll get to them, bit it's been a few days. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/23/21 9:54:07 PM #80:	Why's Ted DeBiase, a guy who hasn't wrestled in over a decade and who isn't in ring shape, feuding with some NXT underneath guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJjuaev1AcI What's the endgame here? The Wave Master posted... I put on the Heartbreak documentary from A&E thinking my wife wouldn't be interested and would fold the clothes. It didn't work as she stopped folding the clothes and starting watching the show and drinking her tea. The clothes are still pulled on the love seat in the living room. She swears she'll get to them, bit it's been a few days. I have yet to watch anything in the series, but I've heard the JC discussions. I'll probably try to watch the Dark Side of the Ring and A&E ones for Ultimate Warrior for the contrast, though. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954230311] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Why's Ted DeBiase, a guy who hasn't wrestled in over a decade and who isn't in ring shape, feuding with some NXT underneath guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJjuaev1AcI What's the endgame here? The Wave Master posted... </cite> <quote>I put on the Heartbreak documentary from A&E thinking my wife wouldn't be interested and would fold the clothes. It didn't work as she stopped folding the clothes and starting watching the show and drinking her tea. The clothes are still pulled on the love seat in the living room. She swears she'll get to them, bit it's been a few days.</quote> I have yet to watch anything in the series, but I've heard the JC discussions. I'll probably try to watch the Dark Side of the Ring and A&E ones for Ultimate Warrior for the contrast, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/24/21 10:29:15 PM #81:	This week's Elevation has mostly sucked. About an hour in and I'm just watch the rest some other time. Rest of the card includes Penta v Sydal, JD Drake v Romero (who? And why is this the main event?), Tay Conti, and Scorpio Sky. Shorter episode (at 1hr47), but it also just doesn't have much going for it. QT v Robo. Commentators ate up a few minutes. BS claims that Sky & Page cost Darby Allen his match against Miro when he attacked Sting, which makes zero fucking sense. Abadon v Leila Grey Thunder Rosa v Ashley DAmboise. Shitty, sloppy match that made Rosa look bad. Watched a few minutes, skipped the rest. Lee Johnson v whoever. Also didn't bother watching. Nyla v Robyn Renegade. Ethan Page v Reynolds. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954265800] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>This week's Elevation has mostly sucked. About an hour in and I'm just watch the rest some other time. Rest of the card includes Penta v Sydal, JD Drake v Romero (who? And why is this the main event?), Tay Conti, and Scorpio Sky. Shorter episode (at 1hr47), but it also just doesn't have much going for it. QT v Robo. Commentators ate up a few minutes. BS claims that Sky & Page cost Darby Allen his match against Miro when he attacked Sting, which makes zero fucking sense. Abadon v Leila Grey Thunder Rosa v Ashley DAmboise. Shitty, sloppy match that made Rosa look bad. Watched a few minutes, skipped the rest. Lee Johnson v whoever. Also didn't bother watching. Nyla v Robyn Renegade. Ethan Page v Reynolds. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wave Master 05/25/21 3:33:19 AM #82:	Can I dare say that Monday Night Raw was good tonight. Not a lot of weak points in the show. I'm shocked and I hope it continues. Match of the night goes to Kofi and McIntyre, and even if the match didn't have an ensing it was still pretty darn good, and keeps everyone involved looking strong. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:954272281] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Can I dare say that Monday Night Raw was good tonight. Not a lot of weak points in the show. I'm shocked and I hope it continues. Match of the night goes to Kofi and McIntyre, and even if the match didn't have an ensing it was still pretty darn good, and keeps everyone involved looking strong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Abibde 05/25/21 7:29:35 AM #83:	Rocky Romero is Trent's old tag partner from NJPW. These days, he is also the head booker for NJPW Strong, from what I understand, so a guest appearance from him is kind of a big deal. --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:954275268] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Rocky Romero is Trent's old tag partner from NJPW. These days, he is also the head booker for NJPW Strong, from what I understand, so a guest appearance from him is kind of a big deal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/25/21 8:34:59 AM #84:	Then that just makes it more confusing, since if he's a big deal then logically he'd be on Dynamite rather than Elevation and I'm not sure why they'd match him with JD Drake, who at this point is still a comedy underneath guy (although they're kinda pushing that jobber stable) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954276483] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Then that just makes it more confusing, since if he's a big deal then logically he'd be on Dynamite rather than Elevation and I'm not sure why they'd match him with JD Drake, who at this point is still a comedy underneath guy (although they're kinda pushing that jobber stable) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/26/21 2:29:29 AM #85:	This week's AEW Dark was reasonably good. It was a 1hr32 episode, which they haven't done in a while. The shorter episode was nice, as were some of the shorter matches. Comoroto v Duke Davis (debut). Comoroto looked dominant as hell. Super-fast match (probably took less time than the ring entrance), but fun. Aftermath was QT demanding that Aaron Solow or whatever get his match against his opponent now. Solow v whoever. More competitive match, but ~~still a reasonably quick win~~. The big plus is it was a big time-saver since the ring entrance was out of the way. Dork Order #10 v Dillion McQueen. Skipped. Honestly, I find the gimmick a little offensive. Looked to be about a 10-minute match? Evil Uno & Colt Cabana v two debuting job guys. I think the last Colt & Uno team-up was announced as being their first. For whatever reason, the team kinda works. They play off each other well, they have a good visual, and their coordination is fun. Swole & Kilynn v Bunny (w/ Blade) & Madi. Once again, they just threw a womens tag team together. I cant remember Madi and Bunny having any interaction before this. I guess part of the issue is that the HFO only has one female member (maybe they can give poor Madi a push?). Match started with Bunny fucking around with Kilynn, before hard-tagging Madi in. Madi gets some hits in, Kilynn floors her. Bunny was laughing about something so Kilynn dragged her in. Anyway, Madi matches are always pretty fun. She sells convincingly, has a bit of personality, and although shes green her in-ring is pretty decent for what it is. And while Ive never liked Bunnys single matches much, I like her in a tag team. From the get-go, I figured ~~Madi would be taking the pin~~. However, the end was ~~Madi tried to go for a tag but Bunny wasnt up by the ringpost so she couldnt tag and then she got blasted from behind by Swole~~. Billy & Colton Gunn v Kal Herro & Liam Gray. Kinda neat match, although the jobbers making the face comeback was weird. The suicida that Billy diverted looked brutal. Diamante cuts a promo on Reka. Kinda pointless, unless now theyre trying to build Reka up? Reka is pretty good, though. Leyla Hirshe v Vertvixen. Ricky Stark is on commentary for no fucking reason this match (or, at least, starting this match). Ricky has never had anything to do with either woman, and I cant think of any interaction hes had with the womens division. Crappy match that looked silly as fuck given that Leyla is like half Vertvixens height. Sloppy ending on top of everything else. I hate Leyla Hirshe. I might add her to my skip list (but a soft skip, unlike the hard skip for some of these other guys) Dante Martin v Jason Hotch. And speaking of skips, heres Dante Martin! This guy has zero charisma and hes sloppy as fuck half the time, even botching his finishers. Hes fast, he sometimes does cool shit, but this guy shouldnt be on tv/YT. Oh, Jasons spinning backbreaker looked incredible. That made the match worthwhile. Hotch looked like he knows how to work the crowd, but he apparently doesnt know where the cameras are it looked like he was doing a finger-tap to temple outsmarting gesture, but you couldnt really see it well. And Hotch started to raise his body before taking Dantes 450 splash. Im not sure if that was a timing mistake on his part or if he was doing that to make sure that Dante actually lined his body up right for once. Jfc, Dante is always so fucking sloppy. Backstage interview with Angelico. Is his partner injured or something? Anyway, hes dancing with his eyes closed while some chick interviews him about his thoughts on his match against Ryzin tonight. That Im a little excited for. I like Angelico and I like Ryzin. Amusing segment. Diamante v Reka Tehaka. I dont like Diamante, but Reka is cool. And Reka really made the match work. Nutella v Bear Bronson. I like Bronson, but nowhere near enough to sit through a Jelly Nutella match. (1:08:00) Angelico v Ryzin. The listed record for Ryzin is 0-4. Has he really only had 4 matches? I guess he must have been in some tag matches. Both guys are roughly the same height with relatively trim builds which makes their match look more credible. Its a nice change from some of these matches were the job guy is far bigger and buffer than the guy theyre putting over (or gal, in the case of Diamante v Reka). The announcer team was talking over half the match. Excalibur, Taz, etc, are all so terrible. None of them should be on commentary. Good match, although than a sloppy mistake or two. Nutella backstage interview. Starts okay, goes to shit fast. So not only is he lousy in the ring, hes also lousy on the mic. Why the fuck does he get so much time? Julia Hart v Tesha Price. Theyre pushing Julia Hart now? Shes not ready. Im guessing they just cant use her as a job gal now that shes the VBs valet, so shell be an underneath gal instead. Tesha is usually great, though. She really carried the match. Julia Hart is way, way, way too fucking green at this point to even be on screen. Watching her set up those arm drags was just painful. Brian Cage v Sonny. Skipped. Looks like it ran 10 minutes, so saved some time there, too. Cutting Nutella might have saved 10 minutes as well. All in all? I liked the women's tag match (and would love to see Madi in the HFO, although just adding a second woman would be a huge help so Bunny can do tag matches) and Angelico v Ryzin was good. Tessa did a better job of carrying Julia than Kilynn did, probably because Tessa has presumably been in the business a lot longer while Kilynn v Julia a while back was the less-green leading the green. Dark did a much better job of keeping me engaged than Elevation did this week, although hopefully the last few Elevation matches will be better. ***************** In other news, Enzo Amore is in the... well, news: https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/05/enzo-amore-issues-video-message-after-reported-accident-at-indie-wrestling-event/ I hadn't realized he was wrestling under the name nZo, which is a kinda clever way around WWE controlling the Enzo name. Terrible wrestler, but a pretty good promo. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954309068] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>This week's AEW Dark was reasonably good. It was a 1hr32 episode, which they haven't done in a while. The shorter episode was nice, as were some of the shorter matches. Comoroto v Duke Davis (debut). Comoroto looked dominant as hell. Super-fast match (probably took less time than the ring entrance), but fun. Aftermath was QT demanding that Aaron Solow or whatever get his match against his opponent now. Solow v whoever. More competitive match, but still a reasonably quick win. The big plus is it was a big time-saver since the ring entrance was out of the way. Dork Order #10 v Dillion McQueen. Skipped. Honestly, I find the gimmick a little offensive. Looked to be about a 10-minute match? Evil Uno & Colt Cabana v two debuting job guys. I think the last Colt & Uno team-up was announced as being their first. For whatever reason, the team kinda works. They play off each other well, they have a good visual, and their coordination is fun. Swole & Kilynn v Bunny (w/ Blade) & Madi. Once again, they just threw a womens tag team together. I cant remember Madi and Bunny having any interaction before this. I guess part of the issue is that the HFO only has one female member (maybe they can give poor Madi a push?). Match started with Bunny fucking around with Kilynn, before hard-tagging Madi in. Madi gets some hits in, Kilynn floors her. Bunny was laughing about something so Kilynn dragged her in. Anyway, Madi matches are always pretty fun. She sells convincingly, has a bit of personality, and although shes green her in-ring is pretty decent for what it is. And while Ive never liked Bunnys single matches much, I like her in a tag team. From the get-go, I figured Madi would be taking the pin. However, the end was Madi tried to go for a tag but Bunny wasnt up by the ringpost so she couldnt tag and then she got blasted from behind by Swole. Billy & Colton Gunn v Kal Herro & Liam Gray. Kinda neat match, although the jobbers making the face comeback was weird. The suicida that Billy diverted looked brutal. Diamante cuts a promo on Reka. Kinda pointless, unless now theyre trying to build Reka up? Reka is pretty good, though. Leyla Hirshe v Vertvixen. Ricky Stark is on commentary for no fucking reason this match (or, at least, starting this match). Ricky has never had anything to do with either woman, and I cant think of any interaction hes had with the womens division. Crappy match that looked silly as fuck given that Leyla is like half Vertvixens height. Sloppy ending on top of everything else. I hate Leyla Hirshe. I might add her to my skip list (but a soft skip, unlike the hard skip for some of these other guys) Dante Martin v Jason Hotch. And speaking of skips, heres Dante Martin! This guy has zero charisma and hes sloppy as fuck half the time, even botching his finishers. Hes fast, he sometimes does cool shit, but this guy shouldnt be on tv/YT. Oh, Jasons spinning backbreaker looked incredible. That made the match worthwhile. Hotch looked like he knows how to work the crowd, but he apparently doesnt know where the cameras are it looked like he was doing a finger-tap to temple outsmarting gesture, but you couldnt really see it well. And Hotch started to raise his body before taking Dantes 450 splash. Im not sure if that was a timing mistake on his part or if he was doing that to make sure that Dante actually lined his body up right for once. Jfc, Dante is always so fucking sloppy. Backstage interview with Angelico. Is his partner injured or something? Anyway, hes dancing with his eyes closed while some chick interviews him about his thoughts on his match against Ryzin tonight. That Im a little excited for. I like Angelico and I like Ryzin. Amusing segment. Diamante v Reka Tehaka. I dont like Diamante, but Reka is cool. And Reka really made the match work. Nutella v Bear Bronson. I like Bronson, but nowhere near enough to sit through a Jelly Nutella match. (1:08:00) Angelico v Ryzin. The listed record for Ryzin is 0-4. Has he really only had 4 matches? I guess he must have been in some tag matches. Both guys are roughly the same height with relatively trim builds which makes their match look more credible. Its a nice change from some of these matches were the job guy is far bigger and buffer than the guy theyre putting over (or gal, in the case of Diamante v Reka). The announcer team was talking over half the match. Excalibur, Taz, etc, are all so terrible. None of them should be on commentary. Good match, although than a sloppy mistake or two. Nutella backstage interview. Starts okay, goes to shit fast. So not only is he lousy in the ring, hes also lousy on the mic. Why the fuck does he get so much time? Julia Hart v Tesha Price. Theyre pushing Julia Hart now? Shes not ready. Im guessing they just cant use her as a job gal now that shes the VBs valet, so shell be an underneath gal instead. Tesha is usually great, though. She really carried the match. Julia Hart is way, way, way too fucking green at this point to even be on screen. Watching her set up those arm drags was just painful. Brian Cage v Sonny. Skipped. Looks like it ran 10 minutes, so saved some time there, too. Cutting Nutella might have saved 10 minutes as well. All in all? I liked the women's tag match (and would love to see Madi in the HFO, although just adding a second woman would be a huge help so Bunny can do tag matches) and Angelico v Ryzin was good. Tessa did a better job of carrying Julia than Kilynn did, probably because Tessa has presumably been in the business a lot longer while Kilynn v Julia a while back was the less-green leading the green. Dark did a much better job of keeping me engaged than Elevation did this week, although hopefully the last few Elevation matches will be better. ***************** In other news, Enzo Amore is in the... well, news: https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/05/enzo-amore-issues-video-message-after-reported-accident-at-indie-wrestling-event/ I hadn't realized he was wrestling under the name nZo, which is a kinda clever way around WWE controlling the Enzo name. Terrible wrestler, but a pretty good promo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/21 10:18:41 PM #86:	TIL: Jungle Boy (aka Jungle Jack Perry) is the son of the late actor Luke Perry. Was kind of a WTF moment. Hard to imagine that, considering Luke Perry was a mega star and you'd kinda think the son of an actor would get that into that business, unless they were hideous or something. Oh, and then when I looked at Jungle Boy's wikipedia entry right afterward, I learned some even crazier shit -- he was trained by Jelly Nutella and Satino Marella, both of whom are just fucking lousy comedy wrestlers yet Jungle Boy is one of AEW's most impressive talents (other than being lousy on the mic... which, come to think of it, might be why he didn't get into acting) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954377917] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>TIL: Jungle Boy (aka Jungle Jack Perry) is the son of the late actor Luke Perry. Was kind of a WTF moment. Hard to imagine that, considering Luke Perry was a mega star and you'd kinda think the son of an actor would get that into that business, unless they were hideous or something. Oh, and then when I looked at Jungle Boy's wikipedia entry right afterward, I learned some even crazier shit -- he was trained by Jelly Nutella and Satino Marella, both of whom are just fucking lousy comedy wrestlers yet Jungle Boy is one of AEW's most impressive talents (other than being lousy on the mic... which, come to think of it, might be why he didn't get into acting) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/27/21 10:56:51 PM #87:	Yeah, they revealed that info during or in the lead up to his match w/ Jericho like Dec. 2019-ish He was a huge wrestling fan and it was his dream, apparently his dad had been attending a bunch of his matches incognito to support him w/o drawing attention b/c Jack didn't want to coast on his name. Not sure why you hate Janella's matches so much, he seems perfectly mediocre to me... I agree he's atrocious on the mic, though. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:954379148] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, they revealed that info during or in the lead up to his match w/ Jericho like Dec. 2019-ish He was a huge wrestling fan and it was his dream, apparently his dad had been attending a bunch of his matches incognito to support him w/o drawing attention b/c Jack didn't want to coast on his name. Not sure why you hate Janella's matches so much, he seems perfectly mediocre to me... I agree he's atrocious on the mic, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/21 11:00:33 PM #88:	streamofthesky posted... Not sure why you hate Janella's matches so much, he seems perfectly mediocre to me... Every single one of his matches that I've watched have been terrible and have caused me to have a bad impression of the guy he was working with who, in many cases, turns out to be pretty damn good 90% of the time. So rather than suffer through Nutella matches which suck anyway and make me think less of his opponents, I just skip them. Same with Peter Avalon, who is quite the possibly worst wrestler I've seen in a televised promotion in over a decade. There are a handful of wrestlers I just refuse to watch and I'm the happier for it. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954379253] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>Not sure why you hate Janella's matches so much, he seems perfectly mediocre to me...</quote> Every single one of his matches that I've watched have been terrible and have caused me to have a bad impression of the guy he was working with who, in many cases, turns out to be pretty damn good 90% of the time. So rather than suffer through Nutella matches which suck anyway and make me think less of his opponents, I just skip them. Same with Peter Avalon, who is quite the possibly worst wrestler I've seen in a televised promotion in over a decade. There are a handful of wrestlers I just refuse to watch and I'm the happier for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/27/21 11:39:13 PM #89:	Zeus posted... TIL: Jungle Boy (aka Jungle Jack Perry) is the son of the late actor Luke Perry. Was kind of a WTF moment. Hard to imagine that, considering Luke Perry was a mega star and you'd kinda think the son of an actor would get that into that business, unless they were hideous or something. Oh, and then when I looked at Jungle Boy's wikipedia entry right afterward, I learned some even crazier shit -- he was trained by Jelly Nutella and Satino Marella, both of whom are just fucking lousy comedy wrestlers yet Jungle Boy is one of AEW's most impressive talents (other than being lousy on the mic... which, come to think of it, might be why he didn't get into acting) Well he's not the first. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954380419] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>TIL: Jungle Boy (aka Jungle Jack Perry) is the son of the late actor Luke Perry. Was kind of a WTF moment. Hard to imagine that, considering Luke Perry was a mega star and you'd kinda think the son of an actor would get that into that business, unless they were hideous or something. Oh, and then when I looked at Jungle Boy's wikipedia entry right afterward, I learned some even crazier shit -- he was trained by Jelly Nutella and Satino Marella, both of whom are just fucking lousy comedy wrestlers yet Jungle Boy is one of AEW's most impressive talents (other than being lousy on the mic... which, come to think of it, might be why he didn't get into acting) </quote> Well he's not the first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/21 11:40:23 PM #90:	Revelation34 posted... Well he's not the first. What other wrestlers are the kids of major actors (who weren't also wrestlers)? While I'm sure it has to happen sometimes, I can't think of any. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954380452] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Well he's not the first.</quote> What other wrestlers are the kids of major actors (who weren't also wrestlers)? While I'm sure it has to happen sometimes, I can't think of any. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/27/21 11:46:10 PM #91:	Zeus posted... What other wrestlers are the kids of major actors (who weren't also wrestlers)? While I'm sure it has to happen sometimes, I can't think of any. One of Kris Kristofferson's sons. Pretty sure there are others too. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954380628] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> What other wrestlers are the kids of major actors (who weren't also wrestlers)? While I'm sure it has to happen sometimes, I can't think of any. </quote> One of Kris Kristofferson's sons. Pretty sure there are others too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/01/21 1:41:44 AM #92:	AEW Elevation 5/31/21 1hr21 min. Its the shortest Elevation so far, beating out episode 2 by 4 minutes. Its also a welcome change from the trend of going stupidly long with these (especially given the 2.5-hour ones they did). Although last weeks (which I never finished) was 1hr47, Im still guessing they trimmed the run-time to keep the crowd more energetic, especially since this was the first episode of Elevation with a crowd. Thunder Rosa promo. Congratulates Britt Baker on winning title, does some trash-talking in Spanish, talks about coming after her, and mentions shes going to prove how tough she is by beating the crap out of Reka Tehaka. Lolwut? Reka hasnt won a match yet. Cutting promos that reference enhancement talent is just stupid. The Acclaimed v Brent & Brandon Tate (debuting; advertised as former OVW tag champs). Recap? Jungle Boy interview with Tony Schavione. Christian interrupts. (I didnt come out to steal your moment or take up too much of your time. Lolwut?) and then Matt Hardy interrupts Christian Cage and Private Party blindsides Christian. And then JB suicide dives Private Party. Lolwut? Leyla Hirsch v Robyn Renegade. Robyn is like twice Leylas size. Again, this looks ridiculous. Robyn had a few neat moves this match. Amusingly, they announced Leyla is #5 on the Womens Rankings. Varsity Blondes promo. Both are smacktalking Serpentico. Not sure if its a tag team match against Chaos Theory or if just one is fighting Serpentico. Oh, and no Julia Hart. Thunder Rosa v Reka Tehaka. Thunder Rosa comes out to the biggest pop of the night so far. Also notable for Paul No More BS Wight making a borderline racist statement about Samoans being born to be wrestlers. I have no idea why theyre using Reka as a job gal, she seems better than a lot of the signed talent. Penta promo on Young Bucks. Also brings up that hes fighting Jack Evans. Chaos Project v Varsity Blondes (with Julia). Serpentico visibly thigh-slapped when kicking Brians back. Complete, full-view of the camera. Thats some sloppy shit. Julia Hart kinda interferes. When Luther is trying to get Serpentico up so he can throw him on a downed Brian outside the ring, Julia does some cartwheels to get in front of Brian and block them. Aubrey waves her off, but doesnt kick her out. Considering its a Chaos Project match, it wasnt too bad. Chaos Project is just embarrassing, though. Luther and Serpentico are just lousy wrestlers, even if they work well as a team. Another segment billed as being after DoN. Tony talks to Dustin about an upcoming match with Comoroto. I skipped it, because I just dont care. Im not watching Dynamite anyway. Swole & Velvet v Nyla & the Bunny (with HFO). Ehh, what? Another womens team that was just tossed together. Madi & Bunny worked, but this seemed eh? You have two women who have managers being paired together. Why? Vicky referred to Bunny as Aly? Otherwise Bunny and Nyla looked good coming out together and posing, as did Swole & Velvet. Swole looked great during the match, we got to see her agility and speed. Bunny & Nyla are kind of an awkward combo and you have way too many people at ringside, but it was still probably the best match of the night to this point. Joey Janella backstage interview. This guy is such a goof. Hes talking about him and Sonny, which he describes as being like jelly and Nutella. -_- Otherwise its awkward that the interviewer is like a head taller than the wrestler. Thats the opposite of how it should be. Jack Evans (w/ Angelico) v Penta. So I guess Evans isnt injured? Then why has Angelico been wrestling in singles lately? Penta has a really cool gold and black costume, which really makes the design pop. Jack is ranting in the ring about something. Are TH2 supposed to be heels now? But you already have Penta who is supposed to be a heel? Jack ties Pentas mask to the ropes in full view of the ref, who tries to undo it and then cautions Jack. Great match, other than that goofy-looking Canadian Destroyer. Tay Conti v Ashley DAmboise. I groaned when I saw the match-up. I groaned even harder some points during the match, like during the clumsy schoolboy off the turnbuckle. Might have been the worst match of the night so far. JD Drake v Jungle Boy. Loud pop for JB, but it didnt last as long as the one for Rosa but then we got a large reaction at the start of the match. It was the main event and there wasnt anything really wrong with the match, but I couldnt get into it. I generally have mixed feeling about JD Drake because hes in lousy shape while not being big enough to really get away with that. Plus they have him hanging out in a jobber stable so I think of him as a jobber by association. Oh, and I watched the pre-show match or whatever for DoN between Serena and Riho. Serena is still so good in the ring, but Riho is a waste of space. Serena could have taken pretty much anybody on the AEW women's roster (except Tay Conti and Julia Hart) and had a match that was either every bit as good or better. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954514459] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>AEW Elevation 5/31/21 1hr21 min. Its the shortest Elevation so far, beating out episode 2 by 4 minutes. Its also a welcome change from the trend of going stupidly long with these (especially given the 2.5-hour ones they did). Although last weeks (which I never finished) was 1hr47, Im still guessing they trimmed the run-time to keep the crowd more energetic, especially since this was the first episode of Elevation with a crowd. Thunder Rosa promo. Congratulates Britt Baker on winning title, does some trash-talking in Spanish, talks about coming after her, and mentions shes going to prove how tough she is by beating the crap out of Reka Tehaka. Lolwut? Reka hasnt won a match yet. Cutting promos that reference enhancement talent is just stupid. The Acclaimed v Brent & Brandon Tate (debuting; advertised as former OVW tag champs). Recap? Jungle Boy interview with Tony Schavione. Christian interrupts. (I didnt come out to steal your moment or take up too much of your time. Lolwut?) and then Matt Hardy interrupts Christian Cage and Private Party blindsides Christian. And then JB suicide dives Private Party. Lolwut? Leyla Hirsch v Robyn Renegade. Robyn is like twice Leylas size. Again, this looks ridiculous. Robyn had a few neat moves this match. Amusingly, they announced Leyla is #5 on the Womens Rankings. Varsity Blondes promo. Both are smacktalking Serpentico. Not sure if its a tag team match against Chaos Theory or if just one is fighting Serpentico. Oh, and no Julia Hart. Thunder Rosa v Reka Tehaka. Thunder Rosa comes out to the biggest pop of the night so far. Also notable for Paul No More BS Wight making a borderline racist statement about Samoans being born to be wrestlers. I have no idea why theyre using Reka as a job gal, she seems better than a lot of the signed talent. Penta promo on Young Bucks. Also brings up that hes fighting Jack Evans. Chaos Project v Varsity Blondes (with Julia). Serpentico visibly thigh-slapped when kicking Brians back. Complete, full-view of the camera. Thats some sloppy shit. Julia Hart kinda interferes. When Luther is trying to get Serpentico up so he can throw him on a downed Brian outside the ring, Julia does some cartwheels to get in front of Brian and block them. Aubrey waves her off, but doesnt kick her out. Considering its a Chaos Project match, it wasnt too bad. Chaos Project is just embarrassing, though. Luther and Serpentico are just lousy wrestlers, even if they work well as a team. Another segment billed as being after DoN. Tony talks to Dustin about an upcoming match with Comoroto. I skipped it, because I just dont care. Im not watching Dynamite anyway. Swole & Velvet v Nyla & the Bunny (with HFO). Ehh, what? Another womens team that was just tossed together. Madi & Bunny worked, but this seemed eh? You have two women who have managers being paired together. Why? Vicky referred to Bunny as Aly? Otherwise Bunny and Nyla looked good coming out together and posing, as did Swole & Velvet. Swole looked great during the match, we got to see her agility and speed. Bunny & Nyla are kind of an awkward combo and you have way too many people at ringside, but it was still probably the best match of the night to this point. Joey Janella backstage interview. This guy is such a goof. Hes talking about him and Sonny, which he describes as being like jelly and Nutella. -_- Otherwise its awkward that the interviewer is like a head taller than the wrestler. Thats the opposite of how it should be. Jack Evans (w/ Angelico) v Penta. So I guess Evans isnt injured? Then why has Angelico been wrestling in singles lately? Penta has a really cool gold and black costume, which really makes the design pop. Jack is ranting in the ring about something. Are TH2 supposed to be heels now? But you already have Penta who is supposed to be a heel? Jack ties Pentas mask to the ropes in full view of the ref, who tries to undo it and then cautions Jack. Great match, other than that goofy-looking Canadian Destroyer. Tay Conti v Ashley DAmboise. I groaned when I saw the match-up. I groaned even harder some points during the match, like during the clumsy schoolboy off the turnbuckle. Might have been the worst match of the night so far. JD Drake v Jungle Boy. Loud pop for JB, but it didnt last as long as the one for Rosa but then we got a large reaction at the start of the match. It was the main event and there wasnt anything really wrong with the match, but I couldnt get into it. I generally have mixed feeling about JD Drake because hes in lousy shape while not being big enough to really get away with that. Plus they have him hanging out in a jobber stable so I think of him as a jobber by association. Oh, and I watched the pre-show match or whatever for DoN between Serena and Riho. Serena is still so good in the ring, but Riho is a waste of space. Serena could have taken pretty much anybody on the AEW women's roster (except Tay Conti and Julia Hart) and had a match that was either every bit as good or better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 06/01/21 2:14:37 AM #93:	not even sure what was up with the main event for raw... --- Booping In The Scoop <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:954515040] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>not even sure what was up with the main event for raw... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Abibde 06/01/21 2:14:11 PM #94:	Had a blast watching Double Or Nothing 2021. Not the best pay-per-view of the AEW catalogue, IMO, because Revolution 2020 is always going to be hard to beat, but still a lot of fun, and it feels great to have crowds back. Several of the wrestlers seemed genuinely taken aback at how over they are, and that warms my heart. --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:954529636] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Had a blast watching Double Or Nothing 2021. Not the best pay-per-view of the AEW catalogue, IMO, because Revolution 2020 is always going to be hard to beat, but still a lot of fun, and it feels great to have crowds back. Several of the wrestlers seemed genuinely taken aback at how over they are, and that warms my heart. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/04/21 12:09:20 AM #95:	AEW Dark 6/1/2021 (listed as episode 91) 54minute episode, the shortest in a long while. Cesar & Ryan Nemeth (w/Peter) v Gunn Club (Billy & Colton). Jungle Boy promo. Very little energy to the promo despite the fact its supposed to set up THREE matches JB v Kenny, JB & Christian v Private Party, and JB v Bear Bronson. Honestly, if thats the kind of promo he cuts, its no wonder he never got into acting. Kris Stantlander v Robyn Renegade. So Robyn is doing two jobs this week? >_> Notable for ~~Kris getting a little color courtesy of a busted lip~~. TH2 & Serpentico v DOs Alan 5 Angels, Stu Grayson, & Reynolds. I usually skip most DO tag matches (although Ill sometimes give them a minute or two), but this has TH2. Diamante v Red Velvet. Kind of a meh match. I still cant recall ever seeing a good Diamante match. Backstage segment with DO. A5A is making a big deal about performing in front of people. Absolute garbage, complete waste of time. Jungle Boy (w/ JE) v Bear Bronson. Not as loud of a reaction as I was expecting at first, but once the music stopped the chanting started. I will say one thing about the match it had a great visual. JB is small enough to play Bronson as a monster heel. And overlooking that Bronsons look fake as shit, it was a decent-looking match. Oh, and Excalibur started calling Bronson Boulder at one point (like two or three times in a row) because he sucks at his job. Plus they kept focusing the camera on Marko Runt outside the ring, which was just fucking stupid and distracting. You have a massive crowd and youre showing that clown. Otherwise, it was 5 matches in 54 minutes. Considering they had a lot of backstage segments and promos, the actual matches had to average 7-9 minutes, but most of them felt a little long. Its also an indictment on the womens division that they dont have enough talent that they were stuck using enhancement talent when all of the mens matches involved guys who have appeared on Dynamite. (And, even worse, they used Robyn two days in a row.) ****************************** **************************** And in other news, I wound up watching some old MLW and ROH stuff recently, including a dog collar match between Raven and Punk. The dog collar match iirc was 2003, which was a few years before the ECW/EC-Dub relaunch where Punk wound up with the WWE (and Heyman wanted to make him champ, but VKM sidelined him). Even when you see Punk's old stuff, you can see the star potential there. The guy was so great, and they constantly held him down in favor of guys they wanted to make into stars (Lashley, Reigns, etc). --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954626697] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>AEW Dark 6/1/2021 (listed as episode 91) 54minute episode, the shortest in a long while. Cesar & Ryan Nemeth (w/Peter) v Gunn Club (Billy & Colton). Jungle Boy promo. Very little energy to the promo despite the fact its supposed to set up THREE matches JB v Kenny, JB & Christian v Private Party, and JB v Bear Bronson. Honestly, if thats the kind of promo he cuts, its no wonder he never got into acting. Kris Stantlander v Robyn Renegade. So Robyn is doing two jobs this week? >_> Notable for Kris getting a little color courtesy of a busted lip. TH2 & Serpentico v DOs Alan 5 Angels, Stu Grayson, & Reynolds. I usually skip most DO tag matches (although Ill sometimes give them a minute or two), but this has TH2. Diamante v Red Velvet. Kind of a meh match. I still cant recall ever seeing a good Diamante match. Backstage segment with DO. A5A is making a big deal about performing in front of people. Absolute garbage, complete waste of time. Jungle Boy (w/ JE) v Bear Bronson. Not as loud of a reaction as I was expecting at first, but once the music stopped the chanting started. I will say one thing about the match it had a great visual. JB is small enough to play Bronson as a monster heel. And overlooking that Bronsons look fake as shit, it was a decent-looking match. Oh, and Excalibur started calling Bronson Boulder at one point (like two or three times in a row) because he sucks at his job. Plus they kept focusing the camera on Marko Runt outside the ring, which was just fucking stupid and distracting. You have a massive crowd and youre showing that clown. Otherwise, it was 5 matches in 54 minutes. Considering they had a lot of backstage segments and promos, the actual matches had to average 7-9 minutes, but most of them felt a little long. Its also an indictment on the womens division that they dont have enough talent that they were stuck using enhancement talent when all of the mens matches involved guys who have appeared on Dynamite. (And, even worse, they used Robyn two days in a row.) **************************** ****************************** And in other news, I wound up watching some old MLW and ROH stuff recently, including a dog collar match between Raven and Punk. The dog collar match iirc was 2003, which was a few years before the ECW/EC-Dub relaunch where Punk wound up with the WWE (and Heyman wanted to make him champ, but VKM sidelined him). Even when you see Punk's old stuff, you can see the star potential there. The guy was so great, and they constantly held him down in favor of guys they wanted to make into stars (Lashley, Reigns, etc). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/04/21 3:15:01 PM #96:	Oh this thread reminds me I need help looking up a wrestler. Could have been between 2005-2010. Don't remember what league it would be but it was whatever airs on the sci-fi channel. All I remember was it was some guy who was an undefeated rookie then he lost a match. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954646438] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Oh this thread reminds me I need help looking up a wrestler. Could have been between 2005-2010. Don't remember what league it would be but it was whatever airs on the sci-fi channel. All I remember was it was some guy who was an undefeated rookie then he lost a match.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/04/21 5:32:00 PM #97:	Revelation34 posted... but it was whatever airs on the sci-fi channel. 2005-2010 on Syfy probably would have been the ECW relaunch, but apparently Smackdown was on Syfy from 2010-2015. I'm not sure what other wrestling might have been on it from 2008 onward, because I wasn't paying as much attn. Revelation34 posted... All I remember was it was some guy who was an undefeated rookie then he lost a match. Maybe Lashley? https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/7-lesser-known-wwe-undefeated-streaks-might-know/5 I would need more information, like what he looked like. That wrestling period I watched from maybe 2004-2008, so I'm not sure what happened after. I had watched from the beginning of the ECW relaunch until when I gave up because they weren't pushing CM Punk and instead were focused on Lashley who looked like a million bucks, but he only had maybe 5-bucks worth of talent at the time and his promos couldn't draw a dime (which people eventually got around by giving him a mouthpiece, with MVP being probably the best at it). --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:954650656] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>but it was whatever airs on the sci-fi channel.</quote> 2005-2010 on Syfy probably would have been the ECW relaunch, but apparently Smackdown was on Syfy from 2010-2015. I'm not sure what other wrestling might have been on it from 2008 onward, because I wasn't paying as much attn. Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>All I remember was it was some guy who was an undefeated rookie then he lost a match.</quote> Maybe Lashley? https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/7-lesser-known-wwe-undefeated-streaks-might-know/5 I would need more information, like what he looked like. That wrestling period I watched from maybe 2004-2008, so I'm not sure what happened after. I had watched from the beginning of the ECW relaunch until when I gave up because they weren't pushing CM Punk and instead were focused on Lashley who looked like a million bucks, but he only had maybe 5-bucks worth of talent at the time and his promos couldn't draw a dime (which people eventually got around by giving him a mouthpiece, with MVP being probably the best at it). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 06/04/21 6:28:52 PM #98:	Yeah, lots of rookies debut undefeated and then lost, that's like...the standard. For example, one of my favorites, Kofi Kingston, debuted in that time frame on ECW and was undefeated for months, too. Definitely gonna need more info. Any memory of what he looked like? Moves he did? Anything? <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:954652479] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, lots of rookies debut undefeated and then lost, that's like...the standard. For example, one of my favorites, Kofi Kingston, debuted in that time frame on ECW and was undefeated for months, too. Definitely gonna need more info. Any memory of what he looked like? Moves he did? Anything? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 06/04/21 6:51:36 PM #99:	Arv hasnt seen this now he has --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:954653126] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Arv hasnt seen this now he has </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 06/04/21 6:58:23 PM #100:	Chris Benoit is one of Arvs top favorites among the likes of jake roberts kurt angle Christian Arv also liked characters like heidenreich --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:954653315] in Kayfabe: O... [t:79430623]...</cite> <quote>Chris Benoit is one of Arvs top favorites among the likes of jake roberts kurt angle Christian Arv also liked characters like heidenreich </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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