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WhiskeyDisk 11/07/20 12:07:07 AM #1:	Both candidates suck. If this is the best both parties can do...holy shit, this is the decline of western civilization. If we're being honest, I'd rather see Trump win than Biden, i can't shake the feeling that Biden is a trojan horse to put Harris in despite her having 3% of all the fucks given when she ran on her own. If anything, that's the real undermining of democracy we're looking at. Don't think for a second the Republicans aren't going to go after Biden for the exact same thing the Dems spent 3 years trying to Impeach Trump over, and the votes are already there if it makes it to the Senate. all that being said. how is it that we're living in [current year] and can't fucking handle something as simple as an election? dead people voting, dumpsters full of ballots...for fuck's sake, i have more computing power sitting within 6' of me in any direction as i type this than it took to bring down Axis, and land men on the moon. we have telescopes that can see the echoes of the big bang. we have two satellites that are in the interstellar medium. we're finding evidence of life on like 4 other bodies in the solar system. we've landed probes on asteroids. we still, as a nation/race/species can't handle something as simple as voting. i'm supposed to believe that the software that handles my banking would take a hacker a trillion years to defeat, and a month doesn't go by where i'm not hearing about some data breach, and we're still arguing about filling out ballots with a punch tool, a pen, a sharpie, or a fucking crayon. how is something as simple as voting beyond our technological capability? full stop. do we need to go back to men with swords protecting a vase in the town square while people throw white or black stones into it? we have facial recognition software in Vegas that isn't fooled by prosthetics and face paint ffs. how is it that in an era where i literally paid my taxes last year while sitting on the toilet and filed my Covid furlough on the toilet that voting and accurately counting those votes is just beyond the fucking ken of mortal men? even the drooling mooks RGIS hires can count all the shit in a Walmart in under a day. I don't really care who wins at this point, its the foreign policy that is the biggest difference between John Jakeson or Jake Johnson...but how the fuck is simply counting votes, literally a political inventory completely been such a clusterfuck for at least the latest half of my lifetime? Just in my line of sight currently, there's a Samsung Galaxy Tablet (basically my alarm clock). A OnePlus5 Phone, A Nintendo 3ds, An RG350 retro handheld, An HP laptop, a random Chromebook, a Chuwi Larkbox Micro PC, and a Kindle Paperwhite. there's half a dozen bits of dead or dying computer tech within feet of me in my closet. this isn't even counting the firestick on the TV in the living room, 2 or 3 other random tablets, 3 other laptops, and a PC tower all in my living room. any single piece of this technology is exponentially more powerful than the technology that ended WW2. I'm sure if i dug in the steamer truck in the corner, i could dig out a half dozen old gaming consoles and obsolete cellphones. and you're telling me that in 2020 we can't even handle what amounts to an A/B vote? yeah sure, there's Jo Jorgenson and Yeezy in the mix, but nobody is finding 5 and 6 digit votes for either of them in dumpsters and parking lots. How is this a fucking thing in [current year]? All partisanship and fuckery aside, how are our elections not as easy and secure as filing my taxes while dropping a deuce? how is this level of doubt and uncertainty days after the fact even accepted, unquestioned, and allowed? like holy shit America, get your shit together. this is disgusting no matter who wins. the dead shouldn't be voting for anyone. people that moved should only be voting once. I fail to comprehend why any of these errors/glitched/things that cast doubt on election security are even a thing, or should be controversial. what do we need to do at this point to make it so future elections aren't total clusterfucks in the age of technology? this isn't an electoral college topic. this is a logistics/inventory problem. like mail in votes are flawed entirely because of chain of custody issues. why are we mailing pieces of paper at all? voting should be as easy if not easier than filing taxes at this point. i just...cannot comprehend why voting has been such a clusterfuck for 20+ years at this point. --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:946845511] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Both candidates suck. If this is the best both parties can do...holy shit, this is the decline of western civilization. If we're being honest, I'd rather see Trump win than Biden, i can't shake the feeling that Biden is a trojan horse to put Harris in despite her having 3% of all the fucks given when she ran on her own. If anything, that's the real undermining of democracy we're looking at. Don't think for a second the Republicans aren't going to go after Biden for the exact same thing the Dems spent 3 years trying to Impeach Trump over, and the votes are already there if it makes it to the Senate. all that being said. how is it that we're living in [current year] and can't fucking handle something as simple as an election? dead people voting, dumpsters full of ballots...for fuck's sake, i have more computing power sitting within 6' of me in any direction as i type this than it took to bring down Axis, and land men on the moon. we have telescopes that can see the echoes of the big bang. we have two satellites that are in the interstellar medium. we're finding evidence of life on like 4 other bodies in the solar system. we've landed probes on asteroids. we still, as a nation/race/species can't handle something as simple as voting. i'm supposed to believe that the software that handles my banking would take a hacker a trillion years to defeat, and a month doesn't go by where i'm not hearing about some data breach, and we're still arguing about filling out ballots with a punch tool, a pen, a sharpie, or a fucking crayon. how is something as simple as voting beyond our technological capability? full stop. do we need to go back to men with swords protecting a vase in the town square while people throw white or black stones into it? we have facial recognition software in Vegas that isn't fooled by prosthetics and face paint ffs. how is it that in an era where i literally paid my taxes last year while sitting on the toilet and filed my Covid furlough on the toilet that voting and accurately counting those votes is just beyond the fucking ken of mortal men? even the drooling mooks RGIS hires can count all the shit in a Walmart in under a day. I don't really care who wins at this point, its the foreign policy that is the biggest difference between John Jakeson or Jake Johnson...but how the fuck is simply counting votes, literally a political inventory completely been such a clusterfuck for at least the latest half of my lifetime? Just in my line of sight currently, there's a Samsung Galaxy Tablet (basically my alarm clock). A OnePlus5 Phone, A Nintendo 3ds, An RG350 retro handheld, An HP laptop, a random Chromebook, a Chuwi Larkbox Micro PC, and a Kindle Paperwhite. there's half a dozen bits of dead or dying computer tech within feet of me in my closet. this isn't even counting the firestick on the TV in the living room, 2 or 3 other random tablets, 3 other laptops, and a PC tower all in my living room. any single piece of this technology is exponentially more powerful than the technology that ended WW2. I'm sure if i dug in the steamer truck in the corner, i could dig out a half dozen old gaming consoles and obsolete cellphones. and you're telling me that in 2020 we can't even handle what amounts to an A/B vote? yeah sure, there's Jo Jorgenson and Yeezy in the mix, but nobody is finding 5 and 6 digit votes for either of them in dumpsters and parking lots. How is this a fucking thing in [current year]? All partisanship and fuckery aside, how are our elections not as easy and secure as filing my taxes while dropping a deuce? how is this level of doubt and uncertainty days after the fact even accepted, unquestioned, and allowed? like holy shit America, get your shit together. this is disgusting no matter who wins. the dead shouldn't be voting for anyone. people that moved should only be voting once. I fail to comprehend why any of these errors/glitched/things that cast doubt on election security are even a thing, or should be controversial. what do we need to do at this point to make it so future elections aren't total clusterfucks in the age of technology? this isn't an electoral college topic. this is a logistics/inventory problem. like mail in votes are flawed entirely because of chain of custody issues. why are we mailing pieces of paper at all? voting should be as easy if not easier than filing taxes at this point. i just...cannot comprehend why voting has been such a clusterfuck for 20+ years at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 11/07/20 12:09:55 AM #2:	Technology is too hard --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:946845604] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Technology is too hard </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 11/07/20 12:16:35 AM #3:	I can deposit a check from my cellphone in my bedroom. We have the technology to easily improve the voting process both in efficiency and accessibility. But that's not going to happen when the system is intentionally designed to be an obtuse mess. <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:946845809] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>I can deposit a check from my cellphone in my bedroom. We have the technology to easily improve the voting process both in efficiency and accessibility. But that's not going to happen when the system is intentionally designed to be an obtuse mess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rjsilverthorn 11/07/20 12:19:23 AM #4:	"There are, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, more than more than 10,000 unique election administration jurisdictions in the U.S., each of which with their own balloting procedures." This would be one of the problems. <cite>rjsilverthorn posted [p:946845910] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>"There are, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, more than more than 10,000 unique election administration jurisdictions in the U.S., each of which with their own balloting procedures." This would be one of the problems. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 11/07/20 12:22:41 AM #5:	Just my opinion, but I think this is one of fallacies of having states run their own elections from an equipment perspective at least. A national standard for voting equipment would make it easier upgrade technology in a lot of states that are still counting ballets by hand. I know I know, big government and having a singular type of equipment is more prone to hacking. I also think blockchain tech has great applications in Elections, so much so other countries are already beginning to use it. --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:946846015] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Just my opinion, but I think this is one of fallacies of having states run their own elections from an equipment perspective at least. A national standard for voting equipment would make it easier upgrade technology in a lot of states that are still counting ballets by hand. I know I know, big government and having a singular type of equipment is more prone to hacking. I also think blockchain tech has great applications in Elections, so much so other countries are already beginning to use it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 11/07/20 12:23:53 AM #6:	WhiskeyDisk posted... Both candidates suck. If this is the best both parties can do...holy shit, this is the decline of western civilization. Agree. --- Society is built on a mass hallucination. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:946846055] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite> <quote>Both candidates suck. If this is the best both parties can do...holy shit, this is the decline of western civilization.</quote>Agree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/07/20 1:02:33 AM #7:	blah blah blah cranky pessimism and grievances --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:946847074] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>blah blah blah cranky pessimism and grievances </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 11/07/20 1:04:03 AM #8:	Mead posted... blah blah blah cranky pessimism and grievances Did you come into a Whiskey topic expecting something else? <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:946847115] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>blah blah blah cranky pessimism and grievances</quote> Did you come into a Whiskey topic expecting something else? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/07/20 1:05:27 AM #9:	JigsawTDC posted... Did you come into a Whiskey topic expecting something else? yeah animal pictures --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:946847152] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>JigsawTDC posted... </cite> <quote>Did you come into a Whiskey topic expecting something else?</quote> yeah animal pictures </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiskeyDisk 11/07/20 1:07:00 AM #10:	Mead posted... pessimism what goddamned bubble do you live in right now then? JigsawTDC posted... Did you come into a Whiskey topic expecting something else? rich, coming from someone i was calling Eeyore well over a decade ago, lol. --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:946847198] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>pessimism</quote> what goddamned bubble do you live in right now then? JigsawTDC posted... </cite> <quote>Did you come into a Whiskey topic expecting something else?</quote> rich, coming from someone i was calling Eeyore well over a decade ago, lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/07/20 1:14:54 AM #11:	WhiskeyDisk posted... what goddamned bubble do you live in right now then? one where trump isnt gonna be president anymore and our flawed country might have a chance now to edge towards sanity and less polarizing times hopefully and I do think its pretty cool that a black lady is VP now. I mean I think people should get a job based on their character and not just their race and/or gender, but she does seem like she can be an important part of the administration and hopefully her being in a role like that can inspire a lot of young people to do cool things who maybe didnt have a role model like that they could self identify with before --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:946847401] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite> <quote>what goddamned bubble do you live in right now then?</quote> one where trump isnt gonna be president anymore and our flawed country might have a chance now to edge towards sanity and less polarizing times hopefully and I do think its pretty cool that a black lady is VP now. I mean I think people should get a job based on their character and not just their race and/or gender, but she does seem like she can be an important part of the administration and hopefully her being in a role like that can inspire a lot of young people to do cool things who maybe didnt have a role model like that they could self identify with before </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 11/07/20 1:18:54 AM #12:	I can tell when I'm pressing Whiskey's buttons when he brings up a decade old nickname for a teenager that holds no relevancy or weight anymore lol. It's cool seeing someone so old with such a spicy youthful angst! <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:946847505] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>I can tell when I'm pressing Whiskey's buttons when he brings up a decade old nickname for a teenager that holds no relevancy or weight anymore lol. It's cool seeing someone so old with such a spicy youthful angst! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kamala-Harris 11/07/20 1:20:32 AM #13:	Mead posted... one where trump isnt gonna be president anymore and our flawed country might have a chance now to edge towards sanity and less polarizing times hopefully and I do think its pretty cool that a black lady is VP now. I mean I think people should get a job based on their character and not just their race and/or gender, but she does seem like she can be an important part of the administration and hopefully her being in a role like that can inspire a lot of young people to do cool things who maybe didnt have a role model like that they could self identify with before I think this post is pretty cool. Thank you Mead. I plan to serve everyone while is office, but I am proud of forward thinking Americans like you. <cite>Kamala-Harris posted [p:946847551] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>one where trump isnt gonna be president anymore and our flawed country might have a chance now to edge towards sanity and less polarizing times hopefully and I do think its pretty cool that a black lady is VP now. I mean I think people should get a job based on their character and not just their race and/or gender, but she does seem like she can be an important part of the administration and hopefully her being in a role like that can inspire a lot of young people to do cool things who maybe didnt have a role model like that they could self identify with before</quote> I think this post is pretty cool. Thank you Mead. I plan to serve everyone while is office, but I am proud of forward thinking Americans like you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 11/07/20 1:24:02 AM #14:	JigsawTDC posted... I can deposit a check from my cellphone in my bedroom. We have the technology to easily improve the voting process both in efficiency and accessibility. But that's not going to happen when the system is intentionally designed to be an obtuse mess. the Dems have tried to do it. to make it safer, and easier to vote with a single centralized method of voting the reds have stopped it every single time. --- paint me as the villain <cite>likehelly posted [p:946847640] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>JigsawTDC posted... </cite> <quote>I can deposit a check from my cellphone in my bedroom. We have the technology to easily improve the voting process both in efficiency and accessibility. But that's not going to happen when the system is intentionally designed to be an obtuse mess.</quote>the Dems have tried to do it. to make it safer, and easier to vote with a single centralized method of voting the reds have stopped it every single time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 11/07/20 1:24:57 AM #15:	WhiskeyDisk posted... Both candidates suck. If this is the best both parties can do...holy shit, this is the decline of western civilization. First I was trying to think of the last time the US actually had a great president, and then I got to thinking about how awful other world leaders are. Leadership is in kinda short supply. At the same time, we ask too much of national leaders and government that it's impossible for them to truly deliver. That's why so much really needs to be on state and local government where, to be blunt, we have even more incompetent leadership. WhiskeyDisk posted... If we're being honest, I'd rather see Trump win than Biden, i can't shake the feeling that Biden is a trojan horse to put Harris in despite her having 3% of all the fucks given when she ran on her own. If anything, that's the real undermining of democracy we're looking at. Don't think for a second the Republicans aren't going to go after Biden for the exact same thing the Dems spent 3 years trying to Impeach Trump over, and the votes are already there if it makes it to the Senate. Among other issues. Even taking that off the table, Biden has repeatedly discussed plans to stack the SCOTUS. I've sometimes wondered if Biden is planning to go full Khaleesi on us then, after he's done all of his crazy shit, hand the reins to Kamala and the DNC establishment so they can get their wish list while having clean hands (well, other than collaborating with his shit). It's kinda depressing when the best case scenario regarding Biden is that he'll merely turn out to be corrupt >_> And after the amazingly horrible precedent the Dems set in their attempts to get rid of Trump, I kinda wonder if that's going to become the new normal. IronBornCorps posted... Just my opinion, but I think this is one of fallacies of having states run their own elections from an equipment perspective at least. A national standard for voting equipment would make it easier upgrade technology in a lot of states that are still counting ballets by hand. I know I know, big government and having a singular type of equipment is more prone to hacking. I also think blockchain tech has great applications in Elections, so much so other countries are already beginning to use it. Well, then there's the secondary issue where centralizing power makes it more prone to government corruption. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:946847660] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite> <quote>Both candidates suck. If this is the best both parties can do...holy shit, this is the decline of western civilization.</quote> First I was trying to think of the last time the US actually had a great president, and then I got to thinking about how awful other world leaders are. Leadership is in kinda short supply. At the same time, we ask too much of national leaders and government that it's impossible for them to truly deliver. That's why so much really needs to be on state and local government where, to be blunt, we have even more incompetent leadership. WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite> <quote>If we're being honest, I'd rather see Trump win than Biden, i can't shake the feeling that Biden is a trojan horse to put Harris in despite her having 3% of all the fucks given when she ran on her own. If anything, that's the real undermining of democracy we're looking at. Don't think for a second the Republicans aren't going to go after Biden for the exact same thing the Dems spent 3 years trying to Impeach Trump over, and the votes are already there if it makes it to the Senate.</quote> Among other issues. Even taking that off the table, Biden has repeatedly discussed plans to stack the SCOTUS. I've sometimes wondered if Biden is planning to go full Khaleesi on us then, after he's done all of his crazy shit, hand the reins to Kamala and the DNC establishment so they can get their wish list while having clean hands (well, other than collaborating with his shit). It's kinda depressing when the best case scenario regarding Biden is that he'll merely turn out to be corrupt >_> And after the amazingly horrible precedent the Dems set in their attempts to get rid of Trump, I kinda wonder if that's going to become the new normal. IronBornCorps posted... </cite> <quote>Just my opinion, but I think this is one of fallacies of having states run their own elections from an equipment perspective at least. A national standard for voting equipment would make it easier upgrade technology in a lot of states that are still counting ballets by hand. I know I know, big government and having a singular type of equipment is more prone to hacking. I also think blockchain tech has great applications in Elections, so much so other countries are already beginning to use it.</quote> Well, then there's the secondary issue where centralizing power makes it more prone to government corruption. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 11/07/20 1:28:39 AM #16:	farmers --- paint me as the villain <cite>likehelly posted [p:946847755] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>farmers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 11/07/20 1:34:45 AM #17:	Zeus posted... It's kinda depressing when the best case scenario regarding Biden is that he'll merely turn out to be corrupt >_> lol --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:946847904] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>It's kinda depressing when the best case scenario regarding Biden is that he'll merely turn out to be corrupt >_></quote>lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiskeyDisk 11/07/20 1:36:21 AM #18:	Mead posted... and our flawed country might have a chance now to edge towards sanity and less polarizing times hopefully you mean going back to droning American Citizens on foreign soil and expanding the surveillance state? Mead posted... hopefully her being in a role like that can inspire a lot of young people to do cool things like laughing about locking people in cages for smoking weed while admitting that she smoked weed? yeah, that's one hell of a role model. JigsawTDC posted... I can tell when I'm pressing Whiskey's buttons when he brings up a decade old nickname for a teenager that holds no relevancy or weight anymore lol. It's cool seeing someone so old with such a spicy youthful angst! don't pretend for a second that you won't go running to the mods in a heartbeat if i post the old Eeyore shoop like you did back then TDC. who is really pushing who's buttons? Zeus posted... At the same time, we ask too much of national leaders and government that it's impossible for them to truly deliver. That's why so much really needs to be on state and local government where, to be blunt, we have even more incompetent leadership. if Trump vs Biden was the best anyone could come up with after Trump vs Clinton, even the pool of local candidates we have to draw from is horribly, horribly flawed. local elections are more important than ever. Zeus posted... Well, then there's the secondary issue where centralizing power makes it more prone to government corruption. perhaps, but this patchwork of state-controlled, arbitrary voting control has been a total shitshow since 2000. there has to be a better way than paper ballots in this day and age. --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:946847938] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>and our flawed country might have a chance now to edge towards sanity and less polarizing times hopefully</quote> you mean going back to droning American Citizens on foreign soil and expanding the surveillance state? Mead posted... </cite> <quote>hopefully her being in a role like that can inspire a lot of young people to do cool things</quote> like laughing about locking people in cages for smoking weed while admitting that she smoked weed? yeah, that's one hell of a role model. JigsawTDC posted... </cite> <quote>I can tell when I'm pressing Whiskey's buttons when he brings up a decade old nickname for a teenager that holds no relevancy or weight anymore lol. It's cool seeing someone so old with such a spicy youthful angst!</quote> don't pretend for a second that you won't go running to the mods in a heartbeat if i post the old Eeyore shoop like you did back then TDC. who is really pushing who's buttons? Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>At the same time, we ask too much of national leaders and government that it's impossible for them to truly deliver. That's why so much really needs to be on state and local government where, to be blunt, we have even more incompetent leadership.</quote> if Trump vs Biden was the best anyone could come up with after Trump vs Clinton, even the pool of local candidates we have to draw from is horribly, horribly flawed. local elections are more important than ever. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Well, then there's the secondary issue where centralizing power makes it more prone to government corruption.</quote> perhaps, but this patchwork of state-controlled, arbitrary voting control has been a total shitshow since 2000. there has to be a better way than paper ballots in this day and age. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 11/07/20 1:46:13 AM #19:	Zeus posted... Well, then there's the secondary issue where centralizing power makes it more prone to government corruption. I meant my statement regarding more prone to hacking to include this. Which is also why I believe if any national system were to be implemented, it should contain blockchain tech. It's transparency means it's difficult to corrupt, and nearly impossible to do so without knowing who did it. I only say nearly impossible because it's not possible with our current tech, but tech always advances. Which scares a lot of outdated politicians, and prevents them from using it. --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:946848177] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Well, then there's the secondary issue where centralizing power makes it more prone to government corruption.</quote> I meant my statement regarding more prone to hacking to include this. Which is also why I believe if any national system were to be implemented, it should contain blockchain tech. It's transparency means it's difficult to corrupt, and nearly impossible to do so without knowing who did it. I only say nearly impossible because it's not possible with our current tech, but tech always advances. Which scares a lot of outdated politicians, and prevents them from using it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 11/07/20 1:47:28 AM #20:	WhiskeyDisk posted... if Trump vs Biden was the best anyone could come up with after Trump vs Clinton, even the pool of local candidates we have to draw from is horribly, horribly flawed. local elections are more important than ever. It's very rare for a presidential incumbent to face an internal challenge and, when they do, it almost always ends badly for their candidacy. As for Biden, you saw what he was up against. There really wasn't much talent in that pool. As for why that pool was so damn shallow, a lot of it comes down to when people get involved in the political process as well as the fact that direct democracies tend to be somewhat poor at generating great candidates because it basically becomes a popularity contest. You know, on top of the fact that the general population is generally poorly informed (or actively misinformed) and not terribly interested in trying to improve things for themselves; a large part of both problems comes down to the public education system which discourages free thought and innovation by design. Public schools are more interested in teaching kids the valuable skills of sitting still and quietly for hours on end, to ask permission when they have to use the bathroom, etc. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:946848210] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite> <quote>if Trump vs Biden was the best anyone could come up with after Trump vs Clinton, even the pool of local candidates we have to draw from is horribly, horribly flawed. local elections are more important than ever.</quote> It's very rare for a presidential incumbent to face an internal challenge and, when they do, it almost always ends badly for their candidacy. As for Biden, you saw what he was up against. There really wasn't much talent in that pool. As for why that pool was so damn shallow, a lot of it comes down to when people get involved in the political process as well as the fact that direct democracies tend to be somewhat poor at generating great candidates because it basically becomes a popularity contest. You know, on top of the fact that the general population is generally poorly informed (or actively misinformed) and not terribly interested in trying to improve things for themselves; a large part of both problems comes down to the public education system which discourages free thought and innovation by design. Public schools are more interested in teaching kids the valuable skills of sitting still and quietly for hours on end, to ask permission when they have to use the bathroom, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiskeyDisk 11/07/20 2:34:58 AM #21:	Zeus posted... There really wasn't much talent in that pool. I might have actually considered Yang or Tulsi if you ran them against Biden. I might have considered a ham sandwich over Biden. --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:946849240] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>There really wasn't much talent in that pool.</quote> I might have actually considered Yang or Tulsi if you ran them against Biden. I might have considered a ham sandwich over Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/07/20 2:51:48 AM #22:	WhiskeyDisk posted... I might have actually considered Yang or Tulsi if you ran them against Biden. I might have considered a ham sandwich over Biden. You're a fan of one Russian asset so you'll take another with Tulsi? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:946849585] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite> <quote>I might have actually considered Yang or Tulsi if you ran them against Biden. I might have considered a ham sandwich over Biden.</quote>You're a fan of one Russian asset so you'll take another with Tulsi? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 11/07/20 2:58:09 AM #23:	This is random af, but did anyone else just realize we potentially have 4 more years of the Kamala-Harris account popping in and out of topics... --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:946849708] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>This is random af, but did anyone else just realize we potentially have 4 more years of the Kamala-Harris account popping in and out of topics... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/07/20 2:59:47 AM #24:	IronBornCorps posted... This is random af, but did anyone else just realize we potentially have 4 more years of the Kamala-Harris account popping in and out of topics... Eh it's just an extension of the "gamer" family. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:946849743] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>IronBornCorps posted... </cite> <quote>This is random af, but did anyone else just realize we potentially have 4 more years of the Kamala-Harris account popping in and out of topics...</quote> Eh it's just an extension of the "gamer" family. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 11/07/20 3:03:27 AM #25:	"gamer" family? Edit I don't have an issue with it by any means either. So far they seem to be content with spreading positivity and luke warm political statements...kind of like the real Kamala Harris. I just have concerns about how the account develops over time...also not unlike Kamala Harris... --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:946849818] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>"gamer" family? Edit I don't have an issue with it by any means either. So far they seem to be content with spreading positivity and luke warm political statements...kind of like the real Kamala Harris. I just have concerns about how the account develops over time...also not unlike Kamala Harris... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/07/20 3:08:03 AM #26:	IronBornCorps posted... "gamer" family? Someone else explain this, I was never a fan of them I know you guys loved them. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:946849901] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>IronBornCorps posted... </cite> <quote>"gamer" family?</quote> Someone else explain this, I was never a fan of them I know you guys loved them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 11/07/20 3:09:28 AM #27:	JigsawTDC posted... I can deposit a check from my cellphone in my bedroom. We have the technology to easily improve the voting process both in efficiency and accessibility. But that's not going to happen when the system is intentionally designed to be an obtuse mess. IronBornCorps posted... I also think blockchain tech has great applications in Elections, so much so other countries are already beginning to use it. https://xkcd.com/2030/ Saw the above comic referenced a week ago, and these comments immediately reminded me of it. :D <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:946849925] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>JigsawTDC posted... </cite> <quote>I can deposit a check from my cellphone in my bedroom. We have the technology to easily improve the voting process both in efficiency and accessibility. But that's not going to happen when the system is intentionally designed to be an obtuse mess.</quote> IronBornCorps posted... </cite> <quote>I also think blockchain tech has great applications in Elections, so much so other countries are already beginning to use it.</quote> https://xkcd.com/2030/ Saw the above comic referenced a week ago, and these comments immediately reminded me of it. :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 11/07/20 3:10:13 AM #28:	BlackScythe0 posted... Someone else explain this, I was never a fan of them I know you guys loved them. Is it something I can look up, like urban dictionary, or is this local flavor? --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:946849945] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>Someone else explain this, I was never a fan of them I know you guys loved them.</quote> Is it something I can look up, like urban dictionary, or is this local flavor? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/07/20 3:11:10 AM #29:	IronBornCorps posted... Is it something I can look up, like urban dictionary, or is this local flavor? It was a series of gimmick accounts. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:946849961] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>IronBornCorps posted... </cite> <quote>Is it something I can look up, like urban dictionary, or is this local flavor?</quote> It was a series of gimmick accounts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 11/07/20 3:20:47 AM #30:	streamofthesky posted... https://xkcd.com/2030/ Saw the above comic referenced a week ago, and these comments immediately reminded me of it. :D Tbf, I am a software engineer. However, I will not deny the incompetence of the industry as referenced in one panel, there are definitely issues. That being said blockchain is still divisive among developers. It really is just a fancy database, the applications of such are totally up to who works with it. There are several *CRITICAL* issues that would need to be addressed before it's ready for an election with integrity and no other checks or balances (which I also wouldn't remove either). --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:946850129] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>https://xkcd.com/2030/ Saw the above comic referenced a week ago, and these comments immediately reminded me of it. :D</quote> Tbf, I am a software engineer. However, I will not deny the incompetence of the industry as referenced in one panel, there are definitely issues. That being said blockchain is still divisive among developers. It really is just a fancy database, the applications of such are totally up to who works with it. There are several CRITICAL issues that would need to be addressed before it's ready for an election with integrity and no other checks or balances (which I also wouldn't remove either). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 11/07/20 3:24:51 AM #31:	BlackScythe0 posted... It was a series of gimmick accounts. Ah, gotcha --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:946850187] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>It was a series of gimmick accounts.</quote> Ah, gotcha </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 11/07/20 3:28:58 AM #32:	WhiskeyDisk posted... I might have actually considered Yang or Tulsi if you ran them against Biden. I might have considered a ham sandwich over Biden. Yang was a terrible candidate. While there are some things I like about Tulsi Gabbard, I didn't look into her policy enough to really form a concrete opinion on her as a whole. Kind of the same thing with Amy Klobuchar. Granted, almost all of them seemed to back some of the same awful policies. Even Biden seemed more moderate before I started looking at his officially-stated policies BlackScythe0 posted... You're a fan of one Russian asset so you'll take another with Tulsi? "Anybody I Don't Like is a Russian Asset: A Juvenile's Guide to Avoiding Actual Political Issues" BlackScythe0 posted... Eh it's just an extension of the "gamer" family. I thought both Joe-Biden and Kamala-Harris were Helly's? Or is Helly also Duke? Is anybody on this board not Duke? (Well, besides ClarkDuke, which is Aculo/Jonesville) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:946850244] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote><quote>WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite>I might have actually considered Yang or Tulsi if you ran them against Biden. I might have considered a ham sandwich over Biden.</quote> Yang was a terrible candidate. While there are some things I like about Tulsi Gabbard, I didn't look into her policy enough to really form a concrete opinion on her as a whole. Kind of the same thing with Amy Klobuchar. Granted, almost all of them seemed to back some of the same awful policies. Even Biden seemed more moderate before I started looking at his officially-stated policies <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite>You're a fan of one Russian asset so you'll take another with Tulsi?</quote> "Anybody I Don't Like is a Russian Asset: A Juvenile's Guide to Avoiding Actual Political Issues" <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite>Eh it's just an extension of the "gamer" family.</quote> I thought both Joe-Biden and Kamala-Harris were Helly's? Or is Helly also Duke? Is anybody on this board not Duke? (Well, besides ClarkDuke, which is Aculo/Jonesville) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 11/07/20 4:25:28 AM #33:	Making it hard to vote is a benefit for the wealthy and corporations. Politicians of both parties are in their pockets, so making it actually easier to vote isn't likely to happen anytime soon. Even the Dems who might appear to try and make it happen are probably secretly not trying so hard. If you really gave power to the masses, this country would be significantly different. It doesn't have to be socialism to make it more fair for everyone. Wages would be higher, a more equal share of profits would be the norm, more healthcare available (Free or not), and prices for it (if not free) would be regulated to some extent at least. You have a vast majority of citizens who would be WAY better off with changes that would only adversely affect a very small portion of americans, yet somehow such changes never get made, over decades. So yeah, voting is going to remain like this, because it helps the people in power, i keeps some of the masses from voting and probably causes some of the votes not be be counted. It's not lack of technology, we could easily use technology to make the voting method far better, it's a lack of intent. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:946851023] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Making it hard to vote is a benefit for the wealthy and corporations. Politicians of both parties are in their pockets, so making it actually easier to vote isn't likely to happen anytime soon. Even the Dems who might appear to try and make it happen are probably secretly not trying so hard. If you really gave power to the masses, this country would be significantly different. It doesn't have to be socialism to make it more fair for everyone. Wages would be higher, a more equal share of profits would be the norm, more healthcare available (Free or not), and prices for it (if not free) would be regulated to some extent at least. You have a vast majority of citizens who would be WAY better off with changes that would only adversely affect a very small portion of americans, yet somehow such changes never get made, over decades. So yeah, voting is going to remain like this, because it helps the people in power, i keeps some of the masses from voting and probably causes some of the votes not be be counted. It's not lack of technology, we could easily use technology to make the voting method far better, it's a lack of intent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
supremeblaster 11/07/20 4:40:30 AM #34:	"decline of the western civilization" we've had trump for 4 years. there's nowhere to go but up. --- I never cared about justice, and I don't recall ever calling myself a hero. I have always only fought for the people I believe in. ~Zero <cite>supremeblaster posted [p:946851244] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>"decline of the western civilization" we've had trump for 4 years. there's nowhere to go but up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoukaiSlayer 11/07/20 4:49:12 AM #35:	supremeblaster posted... there's nowhere to go but up. This is never true. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) <cite>YoukaiSlayer posted [p:946851354] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>supremeblaster posted... </cite> <quote>there's nowhere to go but up.</quote>This is never true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 11/07/20 5:34:22 AM #36:	YoukaiSlayer posted... supremeblaster posted... there's nowhere to go but up. This is never true. Even with the best possible president (which I don't consider Biden to be a contender) we are looking at dark times in the future more than likely. The virus alone seems to be spreading like crazy right now and not going away any time soon. Even if we get a Vaccine they say it might not work for most of the people who are high risk. That is going to change lives possibly for quite while. But wait there is more. We have the whole environmental stuff to deal with, either now, or in the future when it's even worse. Trump would probably push it under a rug and ignore it for now, so we wouldn't have a negative impact (much) for awhile, but Biden and most other presidents are probably going to have to deal with it soon, which means we are all going to have to make sacrifices. Things will almost certainly get worse in the process. There are a ton of other things that can, and probably will, go wrong or get worse in the near future sadly, even with a good president, so I'm not optimistic at all about our future. I hope I'm wrong, but yeah, I don't think I am. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:946851921] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>YoukaiSlayer posted... </cite> <quote>supremeblaster posted... there's nowhere to go but up. This is never true.</quote> Even with the best possible president (which I don't consider Biden to be a contender) we are looking at dark times in the future more than likely. The virus alone seems to be spreading like crazy right now and not going away any time soon. Even if we get a Vaccine they say it might not work for most of the people who are high risk. That is going to change lives possibly for quite while. But wait there is more. We have the whole environmental stuff to deal with, either now, or in the future when it's even worse. Trump would probably push it under a rug and ignore it for now, so we wouldn't have a negative impact (much) for awhile, but Biden and most other presidents are probably going to have to deal with it soon, which means we are all going to have to make sacrifices. Things will almost certainly get worse in the process. There are a ton of other things that can, and probably will, go wrong or get worse in the near future sadly, even with a good president, so I'm not optimistic at all about our future. I hope I'm wrong, but yeah, I don't think I am. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoukaiSlayer 11/07/20 5:39:25 AM #37:	I do agree with whiskey's sentiment though. We have better technology that we should be using in so many areas including the election. It's absurd that it's not handled federally as well. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) <cite>YoukaiSlayer posted [p:946852013] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>I do agree with whiskey's sentiment though. We have better technology that we should be using in so many areas including the election. It's absurd that it's not handled federally as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 11/07/20 5:55:37 AM #38:	instead of seeing the political spectrum with black and white blinders, you should make an effort to see the world in color, ok? sure, it will take energy to research the extra subject matter, but you also won't look myopic, like zeus. whenever he's on your side, you should try remembering the tale of robert downey jr., on one fateful day in 2003. when he threw his remaining drugs in the ocean, after eating at burger king, and realizing what a disgusting meal it was, causing him to rethink his life. whiskey, this could be your, burger king moment, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:946852204] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>instead of seeing the political spectrum with black and white blinders, you should make an effort to see the world in color, ok? sure, it will take energy to research the extra subject matter, but you also won't look myopic, like zeus. whenever he's on your side, you should try remembering the tale of robert downey jr., on one fateful day in 2003. when he threw his remaining drugs in the ocean, after eating at burger king, and realizing what a disgusting meal it was, causing him to rethink his life. whiskey, this could be your, burger king moment, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanded 11/07/20 6:39:54 AM #39:	safe and reliable election USPS pick one --- Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition <cite>Wanded posted [p:946852773] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>safe and reliable electionUSPSpick one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clench281 11/07/20 7:15:36 AM #40:	How to not look like a sensible person: First, complain about problems that exist only in your head after being spoon-fed conservative media. (Dead people voting is exceedingly rare, and there's no evidence it's conducted in a partisan pattern) Then, recommend voting "be more secure like filing taxes." (Tax fraud by identity theft affects hundreds of thousands of people per year) WhiskeyDisk posted... I don't really care who wins at this point Sure, Jan. --- Take me for what I am -- who I was meant to be. And if you give a damn, take me baby, or leave me. <cite>Clench281 posted [p:946853204] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>How to not look like a sensible person: First, complain about problems that exist only in your head after being spoon-fed conservative media. (Dead people voting is exceedingly rare, and there's no evidence it's conducted in a partisan pattern) Then, recommend voting "be more secure like filing taxes." (Tax fraud by identity theft affects hundreds of thousands of people per year) WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite> <quote>I don't really care who wins at this point</quote> Sure, Jan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanded 11/07/20 8:03:41 AM #41:	Clench281 posted... First, complain about problems that exist only in your head after being spoon-fed conservative media. (Dead people voting is exceedingly rare, and there's no evidence it's conducted in a partisan pattern) you can go to the voting site and put in the names yourself --- Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition <cite>Wanded posted [p:946853965] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Clench281 posted... </cite> <quote>First, complain about problems that exist only in your head after being spoon-fed conservative media. (Dead people voting is exceedingly rare, and there's no evidence it's conducted in a partisan pattern)</quote>you can go to the voting site and put in the names yourself </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clench281 11/07/20 8:36:26 AM #42:	Wanded posted... you can go to the voting site and put in the names yourself The clerical errors of a living person's vote accidentally being linked to a deceased person due to similar names/addresses? Yes, the election is going to be stolen by the HUGE number of people in this country who -happen to share their deceased relative's name -live at the same address -accidentally have their vote recorded as their deceased relative's vote -somehow bypass the later step where votes identified as cast by a deceased person are thrown out In Michigan, your vote is discarded even if you happen to die in the time between when you mail it and when it's counted. Try again. --- Take me for what I am -- who I was meant to be. And if you give a damn, take me baby, or leave me. <cite>Clench281 posted [p:946854538] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Wanded posted... </cite> <quote>you can go to the voting site and put in the names yourself</quote> The clerical errors of a living person's vote accidentally being linked to a deceased person due to similar names/addresses? Yes, the election is going to be stolen by the HUGE number of people in this country who -happen to share their deceased relative's name -live at the same address -accidentally have their vote recorded as their deceased relative's vote -somehow bypass the later step where votes identified as cast by a deceased person are thrown out In Michigan, your vote is discarded even if you happen to die in the time between when you mail it and when it's counted. Try again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanded 11/07/20 8:58:03 AM #43:	Clench281 posted... The clerical errors of a living person's vote accidentally being linked to a deceased person due to similar names/addresses? Yes, the election is going to be stolen by the HUGE number of people in this country who -happen to share their deceased relative's name -live at the same address -accidentally have their vote recorded as their deceased relative's vote -somehow bypass the later step where votes identified as cast by a deceased person are thrown out In Michigan, your vote is discarded even if you happen to die in the time between when you mail it and when it's counted. Try again. why are you against investigating this matter? --- Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition <cite>Wanded posted [p:946854968] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Clench281 posted... </cite> <quote>The clerical errors of a living person's vote accidentally being linked to a deceased person due to similar names/addresses? Yes, the election is going to be stolen by the HUGE number of people in this country who -happen to share their deceased relative's name -live at the same address -accidentally have their vote recorded as their deceased relative's vote -somehow bypass the later step where votes identified as cast by a deceased person are thrown out In Michigan, your vote is discarded even if you happen to die in the time between when you mail it and when it's counted. Try again.</quote>why are you against investigating this matter? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 11/07/20 9:08:03 AM #44:	I mean you could have Hitler running as a Republican and the devil running as a Democrat and they would still win over 3rd parties because Americans are so stupid that they buy anything the dnc/gop sells them --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:946855242] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>I mean you could have Hitler running as a Republican and the devil running as a Democrat and they would still win over 3rd parties because Americans are so stupid that they buy anything the dnc/gop sells them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clench281 11/07/20 9:15:52 AM #45:	Wanded posted... why are you against investigating this matter? I personally don't handle the investigations. But they are investigated. Trying to prove you wrong is just a game of whack a mole. You continually point to things that are shown to be false. Then you drop those points and switch to a new claim. It happens over and over. Maybe take a hint. --- Take me for what I am -- who I was meant to be. And if you give a damn, take me baby, or leave me. <cite>Clench281 posted [p:946855451] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Wanded posted... </cite> <quote>why are you against investigating this matter?</quote> I personally don't handle the investigations. But they are investigated. Trying to prove you wrong is just a game of whack a mole. You continually point to things that are shown to be false. Then you drop those points and switch to a new claim. It happens over and over. Maybe take a hint. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clench281 11/07/20 9:19:52 AM #46:	https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/05/facebook-posts/no-dead-voter-named-william-bradley-didnt-vote-det/ Are you going to admit you spread bullshit yet? --- Take me for what I am -- who I was meant to be. And if you give a damn, take me baby, or leave me. <cite>Clench281 posted [p:946855568] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/05/facebook-posts/no-dead-voter-named-william-bradley-didnt-vote-det/ Are you going to admit you spread bullshit yet? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiskeyDisk 11/07/20 9:24:06 AM #47:	my gripe with who gets run as a candidate is entirely separate from the huge problem i have with how batshit and archaic our voting process is to where questioning its integrity is even a thing. not that i'm a fan of the UN, but smaller nations would have had the UN involved in this shitshow already to attempt some sort of guarantee of election integrity in a free society. there is no excuse for vote tampering being a thing. there's no excuse for election observers being denied proper access. human hands should not be sitting at tables with pens and garbage cans nearby when we're still handling paper ballots in 2020 like a banana republic. the fact that so many oddities and anomalies are even a question is ridiculous. Sir, this is a Wendy's...no, its a Presidential election ffs. --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:946855675] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>my gripe with who gets run as a candidate is entirely separate from the huge problem i have with how batshit and archaic our voting process is to where questioning its integrity is even a thing. not that i'm a fan of the UN, but smaller nations would have had the UN involved in this shitshow already to attempt some sort of guarantee of election integrity in a free society. there is no excuse for vote tampering being a thing. there's no excuse for election observers being denied proper access. human hands should not be sitting at tables with pens and garbage cans nearby when we're still handling paper ballots in 2020 like a banana republic. the fact that so many oddities and anomalies are even a question is ridiculous. Sir, this is a Wendy's...no, its a Presidential election ffs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clench281 11/07/20 9:29:34 AM #48:	And I'm sure you've sincerely expressed this concern over any and all elections in previous years, including smaller/local ones (which would be even more susceptible to manipulation than a decentralized presidential vote), instead of miraculously developing this concern because the election didn't go as you wanted, right (What a run on!) --- Take me for what I am -- who I was meant to be. And if you give a damn, take me baby, or leave me. <cite>Clench281 posted [p:946855805] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>And I'm sure you've sincerely expressed this concern over any and all elections in previous years, including smaller/local ones (which would be even more susceptible to manipulation than a decentralized presidential vote), instead of miraculously developing this concern because the election didn't go as you wanted, right (What a run on!) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/07/20 9:30:14 AM #49:	WhiskeyDisk posted... there's no excuse for election observers being denied proper access theres election observes from both sides already in place though they cant realistically count votes though if they let an angry mob of jackwagons into the buildings --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:946855827] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>WhiskeyDisk posted... </cite> <quote>there's no excuse for election observers being denied proper access</quote> theres election observes from both sides already in place though they cant realistically count votes though if they let an angry mob of jackwagons into the buildings </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiskeyDisk 11/07/20 9:53:23 AM #50:	Clench281 posted... And I'm sure you've sincerely expressed this concern over any and all elections in previous years, including smaller/local ones (which would be even more susceptible to manipulation than a decentralized presidential vote), instead of miraculously developing this concern because the election didn't go as you wanted, right (What a run on!) It's been a nagging concern out of principle for a number of elections in living memory, but with the entire mail-in angle of this one it's throwing some pretty hard focus on just how archaic this entire process is. Millions of votes cast without so much as a chain of custody? Numerous irregularities and "glitches". That's not an issue of who you or I voted for. The absurdity of it on the face if it shouldn't even be partisan. It's absurd that the integrity of the process should even be brought in to question in this country in this era of technology. --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:946856438] in Whiskey's ... [t:79091781]...</cite> <quote>Clench281 posted... </cite> <quote>And I'm sure you've sincerely expressed this concern over any and all elections in previous years, including smaller/local ones (which would be even more susceptible to manipulation than a decentralized presidential vote), instead of miraculously developing this concern because the election didn't go as you wanted, right (What a run on!)</quote> It's been a nagging concern out of principle for a number of elections in living memory, but with the entire mail-in angle of this one it's throwing some pretty hard focus on just how archaic this entire process is. Millions of votes cast without so much as a chain of custody? Numerous irregularities and "glitches". That's not an issue of who you or I voted for. The absurdity of it on the face if it shouldn't even be partisan. It's absurd that the integrity of the process should even be brought in to question in this country in this era of technology. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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