Board 8 > NBA restart topic

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Brett Brown gone from the 76ers

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SeabassDebeste posted...

it's arguable that miami presents just as big a challenge for them specifically. i think the celtics are a little easier for milwaukee.

Miami in particular match up very well against the Bucks. The Bucks defense is stifling in the paint and tries to force teams to take 3s to beat them. Most teams aren't capable of consistently being hot enough from 3 to beat them over a series. Miami have exceptional 3 point shooters.

Also, slightly related. Fultz still has an ugly 3 point shot at times but he is shooting 45% from 3 in the playoffs.

Hey he still played too much but Billy finally learned to sit Adams at the end

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LeFuck You back in town

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SeabassDebeste posted...

LAL > POR in 5
HOU > OKC in 7 (pending westbrook coming back by game 3)
DEN > UTA in 6
LAC > DAL in 5

MIL > ORL in 4
MIA > IND in 6
BOS > PHI in 7
TOR > BKN in 5

bolded wrong choices

a lot of sweeps in the east except the one i predicted
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see look how much easier this is for the Clippers when George doesn't suck

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Leonhart4 posted...

see look how much easier this is for the Clippers when George doesn't suck

Nice to know hes got a good game in him only once in an entire series

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Reggie Jackson the real LAC hero.

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The Bucks are boycotting game 5. I respect the decision for sure.

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is everyone going to boycott 1 game?

Rockets have a competitive advantage in boycotting a game to give Westbrook another day to get healthy

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The Raptors were thinking about it, I'm kind of hoping they do. It'd be nice if both teams agreed on it but if they take the L, so be it.

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I'm a little pissed at how many of the Magic fanbase have been 'So they forfeit the game right?' or even some with the extreme view to have the Bucks kicked out

Result of the game is completely irrelevant and not remotely important right now.

If the Bucks do boycott, I don't see any games happening today.

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I get why they are doing it, I just don't see it having a significant impact.

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now if they want to forfeit the series and tell everyone its those cops fault this happened, that might cause change

or riots

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Crescent-Moon posted...

I get why they are doing it, I just don't see it having a significant impact.

You're a very fragile person. You don't undersgand the significance of a group uniting to pressure someone into trying to see to their ways? To get them to crack? Come on crescent.

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Dr_Football posted...

now if they want to forfeit the series and tell everyone its those cops fault this happened, that might cause change

or riots

If they wanted to cancel the bubble right now because of it I wouldn't be against it.

Dr_Football posted...

now if they want to forfeit the series and tell everyone its those cops fault this happened, that might cause change

or riots

This would be the minimum required to have an impact, I think.

ShatteredElysium posted...

If they wanted to cancel the bubble right now because of it I wouldn't be against it.

And this definitely would have an impact.

ShatteredElysium posted...

I'm a little pissed at how many of the Magic fanbase have been 'So they forfeit the game right?' or even some with the extreme view to have the Bucks kicked out

Result of the game is completely irrelevant and not remotely important right now.

But this is why one game won't.

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Rockets/OKC also boycotting

It's going to be more than one game, though. I'd be very surprised if any of the next games for each team happen.

Houston-OKC is also being boycott.

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I just turned on Fox Sports Wisconsin, and they're saying Bucks players are in the locker room on the phone with people talking about what actions can be taken, instead of just raising awareness again. I missed the start of the segment who I don't know who they're talking to, but it's interesting stuff.

The Magic are also not accepting a forfeit from the Bucks apparently, and have left the arena from what they said.

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All of tonight's games have now been postponed.

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davidponte posted...

All of tonight's games have now been postponed.

Well with OKC and Houston also boycotting Game 5 so it seems pretty clear the NBA didn't really have a choice.

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The players are going to hold a meeting in Orlando about their next moves. I think there's a real chance the playoffs get called off here.

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Celtics will boycott

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Brewers postponed their game too!

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Game 5 magic are a force

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Alright we're now into "the playoffs might be called off altogether" territory here.

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I try not to be too enamored by appeals to authority, but then theres Bill Russell

https://twitter.com/realbillrussell/status/1298762120394182657?s=21
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It's been a big day. I think Kenny walking off is a really big part of it. It may look small in comparison, but his role holds a ton of water

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Yahoo sports reporting lakers and clippers voted to boycott the rest of the season while other teams voted to continue which prompted lebron to get up and leave

We will find out very shortly if lebron is bigger than the league or not

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Lebron was so close to that 4th ring

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Why would you boycott the NBA after all this work putting the bubble together

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Because some things are bigger than a basketball game?

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Sorozone posted...

Because some things are bigger than a basketball game?

But honestly going home and not getting paid wont just end racism.

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Also if the season does end you know what that means

Raps officially back to back Champs baby!

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I think you mean defending champions
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KCF0107 posted...

I think you mean defending champions

League forfeits we win this season as well as current defending champs. Back2back baby

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pepper2012 posted...

But honestly going home and not getting paid wont just end racism.

Sir, if you're not going to fix each and every problem i would prefer if you do nothing at all

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Sorozone posted...

Because some things are bigger than a basketball game?

Yeah and some things are bigger than racism and police brutality. It doesn't mean you have to cancel everything else. The NBA would lose tons of money when they did literally nothing wrong which makes zero sense (just like the looting, essentially)

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The NBA brought this on themselves by giving in to the political stuff on the business side.

This is why you have to keep it out of your business place.

Once you let it in, it will just go further and further.


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MZero posted...

Yeah and some things are bigger than racism and police brutality. It doesn't mean you have to cancel everything else. The NBA would lose tons of money when they did literally nothing wrong which makes zero sense (just like the looting, essentially)

won't somebody think of the poor NBA and its billionaire owners because of the millionaires who are forgoing hundreds of thousands of dollars

Corrik7 posted...

The NBA brought this on themselves by giving in to the political stuff on the business side.

This is why you have to keep it out of your business place.

Once you let it in, it will just go further and further.

"should've made those black boys shut up and dribble when we had the chance, now they think they're allowed to!"
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Yeah sorry guys. If you are worried about the NBA and its business more than the fact that this players and people have the right to protest I don't know what to tell you other than you might be concerned about the wrong thing.

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SeabassDebeste posted...

won't somebody think of the poor NBA and its billionaire owners because of the millionaires who are forgoing hundreds of thousands of dollars

First of all, that's the same as saying you can't complain if your company decides not to pay you for a month because people in Africa are literally starving to death. Second of all, the point is people want justice but screwing over an innocent party is not justice

Sorozone posted...

Yeah sorry guys. If you are worried about the NBA and its business more than the fact that this players and people have the right to protest I don't know what to tell you other than you might be concerned about the wrong thing.

They don't have the right to sit out games according to their contracts, actually. And I don't even mind them sitting out the games yesterday or whatever, but cancelling the entire thing makes no sense. There are plenty of ways to protest without causing massive harm to a business that did nothing wrong

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The only way this boycott would be effective is if they forgo the rest of the season, at least in my opinion.

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MZero posted...

First of all, that's the same as saying you can't complain if your company decides not to pay you for a month because people in Africa are literally starving to death. Second of all, the point is people want justice but screwing over an innocent party is not justice

no it's not lmao this is a terrible analogy

there's a very fundamental difference between the laboring class and the owning class, which is what NBA owners are

also, no one really becomes a billionaire without stepping on other people's throats and generally exploiting the poor, so i would very extremely hesitant to describe them as being "innocent"

not to mention that starvation in africa and state-sanctioned domestic terrorism are extremely different

this whole analogy makes absolutely no sense

MZero posted...

They don't have the right to sit out games according to their contracts, actually. And I don't even mind them sitting out the games yesterday or whatever, but cancelling the entire thing makes no sense. There are plenty of ways to protest without causing massive harm to a business that did nothing wrong

protests historically haven't done much of anything unless harm has been caused to someone. i'm much happier that the harm be done to billionaire owners than small businesses like in the BLM protests. comparing these two is asinine.

if you want to complain that you as a viewer have been hurt, that's selfish, but understandable. but NBA owners do not need you to go to bat for them. these are the dudes trying to get tax money to finance their billion-dollar stadiums, the profits of which are privatized

Leonhart4 posted...

The only way this boycott would be effective is if they forgo the rest of the season, at least in my opinion.

i think the threat of it might be enough. NBA owners are people of extreme wealth and therefore influence. this isn't really a protest to bring awareness for grassroots movement or whatever; it's direct pressure on some of the wealthiest people alive to do something.

(edit) that said, the definition of "effective" isn't clear, and i'll be the first to admit i don't know what effect it will have in the end. the "black lives matter" jerseys were an obvious virtue signal; however, i think that it's possible we get at least a little more tangible action due to this boycott.
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I feel like just sitting out one game will just be a blip on the radar and then people will just be back to enjoying basketball. That's just kind of the nature of the beast these days. I could be wrong though.

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yeah, i guess my point is, i don't think the boycott's real efficacy lies in the fans who enjoy basketball; it's really about the owners whose wallets will be directly affected
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SeabassDebeste posted...

"should've made those black boys shut up and dribble when we had the chance, now they think they're allowed to!"

Pretty bad quote.


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MZero posted...

They don't have the right to sit out games according to their contracts, actually. And I don't even mind them sitting out the games yesterday or whatever, but cancelling the entire thing makes no sense. There are plenty of ways to protest without causing massive harm to a business that did nothing wrong

The thing is that the union now controls the league because the owners capitulated. The league should have stood strong like they did last time and just fined whoever did what as usual. They now are going to be faced with a potential strike for nothing they did wrong because the players after given an inch have to make a bigger and bigger statement each time something happens. The league will be the one that is at detriment each time. And, ironically, the people who are striving to make careers in basketball which are predominantly young black men from many low economic communities will suffer the consequences of lost revenues that come from it.

There isn't a job in the world that is going to let you walk out or threaten to not work anymore during their most profitable time because you are upset with a political issue. These sports brought it on themselves.

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