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ctesjbuvf 05/19/20 6:38:27 PM #102:	Round 1 Division 5 Day 9 Mass Effect 3 60.63% Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty 39.37% Prediction Percentage 64.54% If this match reminds you of another match, its probably the fantastic Starcraft vs. Mass Effect 2 from 2015. That one was quite the nail biter. Starcraft is known for delivering to good matches. Mass Effect 2 didnt end up looking ahead of the other two Mass Effect games, but its loss against Metal Gear Solid 3 was all kinds of weird. Another issue is in that is how Mass Effect 3s contest went. Mass Effect 3 is rather infamous for being second in the unadjusted x-stats of 2015. It was the game Undertale just managed a comeback against in round 1 and thus its buried under all sorts of weird stuff. I mean, if you believe that Mass Effect 3 is on that level, then this is an easy match and next round should be closer than most thought. Mass Effect 3 is one of the most controversial games this decade probably. It was initially disliked by many, but also cared a about by a great amount. The people complaining are always louder, so it might not be as bad as it seemed, but it still split the fanbase. DLC eventually fixed some the issues, but the damage had been done. Andromeda will always be the weak link now, but it also went into the forgotten realm. Everyone agreed it was awful. Mass Effect 3 is discussed more. The second game is the one that is remembered for being the best. In a contest called Game of the Decade, that will matter more than ever. Itll never reach those highs. Then theres Starcraft II. I dont think anyone for a single second thought that it would be anywhere near the original one. The first has strength, but the second one was never that popular. Its hurt more by any issues people might have with Blizzard today because its more recent. There is room for the difference between the Mass Effect games to be rather big and still have Mass Effect 3 win this match, so Mass Effect 3 was favored here with a good amount of certainty, just like the result shows it should. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939411858] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 5 Day 9 Mass Effect 3 60.63% Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty 39.37% Prediction Percentage 64.54% If this match reminds you of another match, its probably the fantastic Starcraft vs. Mass Effect 2 from 2015. That one was quite the nail biter. Starcraft is known for delivering to good matches. Mass Effect 2 didnt end up looking ahead of the other two Mass Effect games, but its loss against Metal Gear Solid 3 was all kinds of weird. Another issue is in that is how Mass Effect 3s contest went. Mass Effect 3 is rather infamous for being second in the unadjusted x-stats of 2015. It was the game Undertale just managed a comeback against in round 1 and thus its buried under all sorts of weird stuff. I mean, if you believe that Mass Effect 3 is on that level, then this is an easy match and next round should be closer than most thought. Mass Effect 3 is one of the most controversial games this decade probably. It was initially disliked by many, but also cared a about by a great amount. The people complaining are always louder, so it might not be as bad as it seemed, but it still split the fanbase. DLC eventually fixed some the issues, but the damage had been done. Andromeda will always be the weak link now, but it also went into the forgotten realm. Everyone agreed it was awful. Mass Effect 3 is discussed more. The second game is the one that is remembered for being the best. In a contest called Game of the Decade, that will matter more than ever. Itll never reach those highs. Then theres Starcraft II. I dont think anyone for a single second thought that it would be anywhere near the original one. The first has strength, but the second one was never that popular. Its hurt more by any issues people might have with Blizzard today because its more recent. There is room for the difference between the Mass Effect games to be rather big and still have Mass Effect 3 win this match, so Mass Effect 3 was favored here with a good amount of certainty, just like the result shows it should. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/19/20 6:40:38 PM #103:	Those two will have to be the only two today, but it should be okay, because I did a lot yesterday and I should be able to make up for it tomorrow. Besides, Thursday is a holiday here, so it's a long weekend where we'll get through a ton of matches. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939411953] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Those two will have to be the only two today, but it should be okay, because I did a lot yesterday and I should be able to make up for it tomorrow. Besides, Thursday is a holiday here, so it's a long weekend where we'll get through a ton of matches. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big Bob 05/19/20 9:25:37 PM #104:	I actually really like Assassin's Creed Origins/Odyssey. The main stories aren't great, but they did such a great job recreating ancient Egypt/Greece that I really don't care. And the Discovery Tours alone are worth a look. --- Come watch me on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/gameryogi azuarc beat me. <cite>Big Bob posted [p:939419420] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I actually really like Assassin's Creed Origins/Odyssey. The main stories aren't great, but they did such a great job recreating ancient Egypt/Greece that I really don't care. And the Discovery Tours alone are worth a look. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/20/20 3:39:45 AM #106:	Big Bob posted... I actually really like Assassin's Creed Origins/Odyssey. The main stories aren't great, but they did such a great job recreating ancient Egypt/Greece that I really don't care. And the Discovery Tours alone are worth a look. Maybe that's worth playing more fo them for? It would not be high priority, but when looking at the upcomming Valhalla, everyone about the world seems fascinating enough, but it gets harder to care with what stories they've come up with recently. I'll probably keep some eye on the series for a long time, because Assassin's Creed II and Brotherhood are fantastic games. Also, my girlfriend's little brother (13 years younger than her and me) loves the series and loves to talk to me about it because his sisters and parents aren't that big on video games and I know the series, which has made me consider looking at it a bit. UltimaterializerX posted... You got this, bro. Im enjoying the various perspectives, just make sure you finish the project! Yeah, don't worry about that. Yesterday saw the daily work taking more time than expected, so I got to do 2 instead of the planned minimum of 4, it's not a big differnece and it'll be made up for by most other days of the weak having more that 4. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939431312] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Big Bob posted... </cite> <quote>I actually really like Assassin's Creed Origins/Odyssey. The main stories aren't great, but they did such a great job recreating ancient Egypt/Greece that I really don't care. And the Discovery Tours alone are worth a look.</quote> Maybe that's worth playing more fo them for? It would not be high priority, but when looking at the upcomming Valhalla, everyone about the world seems fascinating enough, but it gets harder to care with what stories they've come up with recently. I'll probably keep some eye on the series for a long time, because Assassin's Creed II and Brotherhood are fantastic games. Also, my girlfriend's little brother (13 years younger than her and me) loves the series and loves to talk to me about it because his sisters and parents aren't that big on video games and I know the series, which has made me consider looking at it a bit. UltimaterializerX posted... </cite> <quote>You got this, bro. Im enjoying the various perspectives, just make sure you finish the project!</quote> Yeah, don't worry about that. Yesterday saw the daily work taking more time than expected, so I got to do 2 instead of the planned minimum of 4, it's not a big differnece and it'll be made up for by most other days of the weak having more that 4. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/20/20 3:51:15 AM #107:	Round 1 Division 5 Day 9 Stardew Valley 71.17% Destiny 28.83% Prediction Percentage 68.26% This match went as basically every one of us expected it to, but it was still able to fuel the indie fear since Stardew Valley did better than most people expected it to do. In that regard, Destiny is the perfect opponent. Its bad and it was also in the previous contest where it was killed by Starcraft worse than it got killed today. If you expect some kind of SFF in that match, then Stardew Valley looks really good here. Not that in would matter much because Stardew Valley was never going to beat Super Mario Galaxy 2 regardless of how well it did this match. Destiny has every reason to decline, of course. Our site has never been too huge on multiplayer games like this one but even less than we used to. Five years is a lot of time. You should expect things to change quite a bit between then and now. It makes it harder to compare and to predict, which has its ups and down for contest nerds. Its easy to see how much things can change in that time by looking at the character battles of 2002 and 2007. Or looked at 2004 and 2005 and see how much one year can do. If youre declining by each passing day, then five years can make you decline a lot. Not to take any credit from Stardew Valley. It looks good here, and its probably one of the actual strongest indie games with the exposure and popularity it has had. It just wasnt in any position to take advantage of it itself. On the other side of contest, however, I think its pretty clear that the main reason Stardew Valley went over 70% was Destiny and not itself. Its a shame we have so many fewer brackets these days. Almost everyone that makes one has some contest knowledge. I dont think theres much of a chance that Sardew Valley would be the favorite with the activity in these we had a decade ago. On Board 8 it would, of course, but this is a clear casual trap. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939431496] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 5 Day 9 Stardew Valley 71.17% Destiny 28.83% Prediction Percentage 68.26% This match went as basically every one of us expected it to, but it was still able to fuel the indie fear since Stardew Valley did better than most people expected it to do. In that regard, Destiny is the perfect opponent. Its bad and it was also in the previous contest where it was killed by Starcraft worse than it got killed today. If you expect some kind of SFF in that match, then Stardew Valley looks really good here. Not that in would matter much because Stardew Valley was never going to beat Super Mario Galaxy 2 regardless of how well it did this match. Destiny has every reason to decline, of course. Our site has never been too huge on multiplayer games like this one but even less than we used to. Five years is a lot of time. You should expect things to change quite a bit between then and now. It makes it harder to compare and to predict, which has its ups and down for contest nerds. Its easy to see how much things can change in that time by looking at the character battles of 2002 and 2007. Or looked at 2004 and 2005 and see how much one year can do. If youre declining by each passing day, then five years can make you decline a lot. Not to take any credit from Stardew Valley. It looks good here, and its probably one of the actual strongest indie games with the exposure and popularity it has had. It just wasnt in any position to take advantage of it itself. On the other side of contest, however, I think its pretty clear that the main reason Stardew Valley went over 70% was Destiny and not itself. Its a shame we have so many fewer brackets these days. Almost everyone that makes one has some contest knowledge. I dont think theres much of a chance that Sardew Valley would be the favorite with the activity in these we had a decade ago. On Board 8 it would, of course, but this is a clear casual trap. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/20/20 4:14:15 AM #108:	Round 1 Division 5 Day 9 Super Mario Galaxy 2 87.25% Return of the Obra Dinn 12.75% Prediction Percentage 95.45% It makes me happy that Super Mario Galaxy 2 would become the game to score the highest percentage in round 1 of the contest and also among the best ever! It speaks volumes about Return of the Obra Dinn, and well get there, but it also says something about the Mario franchise. You basically have to have played and enjoyed Obra Dinn to vote for it here. More than Galaxy 2 even. With the forced voting and with the Game of the Decade title in mind, almost no one will not just vote for one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time. Mario games are perfect at taking advantage of that system and Obra Dinn it not the type of game that stands out among picture of eight games, which might save something like Baba is You from dying as badly as it might have had. Super Mario Galaxy 2 looks good here, though its hard to make much of it when Obra Dinn is easily at the bottom of the games in the bracket. Unfortunately for Galaxy 2, it was in no position to make much use of any gained strength. It was never losing before round 3, and while a few looked at the chance of upsetting The Witcher 3 or just feared a Nintendo game would go berserk in the part of the bracket that had otherwise tried to avoid Nintendo dominance, just like Super Mario RPG did last games contest. At the same time as this match, however, we had The Witcher 3 doing almost as badly on a game people actually know what is. Even with potential SFF in that match, Galaxy 2 did not look to be on that level. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939431913] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 5 Day 9 Super Mario Galaxy 2 87.25% Return of the Obra Dinn 12.75% Prediction Percentage 95.45% It makes me happy that Super Mario Galaxy 2 would become the game to score the highest percentage in round 1 of the contest and also among the best ever! It speaks volumes about Return of the Obra Dinn, and well get there, but it also says something about the Mario franchise. You basically have to have played and enjoyed Obra Dinn to vote for it here. More than Galaxy 2 even. With the forced voting and with the Game of the Decade title in mind, almost no one will not just vote for one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time. Mario games are perfect at taking advantage of that system and Obra Dinn it not the type of game that stands out among picture of eight games, which might save something like Baba is You from dying as badly as it might have had. Super Mario Galaxy 2 looks good here, though its hard to make much of it when Obra Dinn is easily at the bottom of the games in the bracket. Unfortunately for Galaxy 2, it was in no position to make much use of any gained strength. It was never losing before round 3, and while a few looked at the chance of upsetting The Witcher 3 or just feared a Nintendo game would go berserk in the part of the bracket that had otherwise tried to avoid Nintendo dominance, just like Super Mario RPG did last games contest. At the same time as this match, however, we had The Witcher 3 doing almost as badly on a game people actually know what is. Even with potential SFF in that match, Galaxy 2 did not look to be on that level. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/20/20 5:20:14 AM #109:	Round 1 Division 5 Day 10 Fallout: New Vegas 79.40% The Stanley Parable 20.60% Prediction Percentage 91.38% This is one of the most straight forward matches of the entire round and that says a lot. The Stanley Parable had basically no matches it could win and is just happy to be here. Its cool that something can go from being a mod in Half-Life 2 to being remade for a release as its own game and get representation in a contest like this. The contest was perfect for shining light on things like that, even though getting blown out in round 1 means we quickly forgot about them again, particularly when theres eight games up on the game day and just one of the matches is interesting. Something worth noting about this match is that Fallout: New Vegas also didnt appear to be much hurt from people thinking less of Bethesda than they used to. Its hard to make much of it when against something like The Stanley Parable, but it was still good news for the many people taking Skyrim far. Or at the very least it meant no additional reason to worry. However, a bunch of people theorized that New Vegas might simply be immune to a backlash. Its older and doesnt have the issues that generally caused the criticism and most importantly it was only published by Bethesda and not actually developed by them. Regardless, it would remain the favorite in its round 2 match, just like it was before the contest. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939432948] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 5 Day 10 Fallout: New Vegas 79.40% The Stanley Parable 20.60% Prediction Percentage 91.38% This is one of the most straight forward matches of the entire round and that says a lot. The Stanley Parable had basically no matches it could win and is just happy to be here. Its cool that something can go from being a mod in Half-Life 2 to being remade for a release as its own game and get representation in a contest like this. The contest was perfect for shining light on things like that, even though getting blown out in round 1 means we quickly forgot about them again, particularly when theres eight games up on the game day and just one of the matches is interesting. Something worth noting about this match is that Fallout: New Vegas also didnt appear to be much hurt from people thinking less of Bethesda than they used to. Its hard to make much of it when against something like The Stanley Parable, but it was still good news for the many people taking Skyrim far. Or at the very least it meant no additional reason to worry. However, a bunch of people theorized that New Vegas might simply be immune to a backlash. Its older and doesnt have the issues that generally caused the criticism and most importantly it was only published by Bethesda and not actually developed by them. Regardless, it would remain the favorite in its round 2 match, just like it was before the contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/20/20 5:47:22 AM #110:	Round 1 Division 5 Day 10 Dark Souls III 69.93% Dishonored 30.07% Prediction Percentage 85.88% The Souls franchise including Bloodborne and so on was certainly one of them most interesting this contest and of the decade. The first Dark Souls is widely respected as being one of the most influencing games this past decade and its easily the most popular of the three Dark Souls games too. The difference between them in contest strength appears greater than the difference in how much the fanbase likes them, but that can be contributed mostly to the original Dark Souls being the most influencing one. Dark Souls III being the second one of them to make the contest probably didnt surprise anyone. The second one is the least popular one by a decent margin. Dark Souls III was mostly expected to win in this match and then lose the next match, but it had an outside shot of doing better than that. Bloodborne looked a lot better than last time, maybe Dark Souls III would be stronger than we thought. Dark Souls III did just about what you would expect of it. Dishonored is past its peak and will probably slowly be forgotten, while Dark Souls is still talked about a lot. Dishonored didnt even make the bracket in 2015, where it more relevant. It just didnt really do anything groundbreaking and while being a fine game for most part, it was overshadowed. It managed to hold Dark Souls III down enough for New Vegas to remain the favorite in the next round, of thats any achievement. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939433385] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 5 Day 10 Dark Souls III 69.93% Dishonored 30.07% Prediction Percentage 85.88% The Souls franchise including Bloodborne and so on was certainly one of them most interesting this contest and of the decade. The first Dark Souls is widely respected as being one of the most influencing games this past decade and its easily the most popular of the three Dark Souls games too. The difference between them in contest strength appears greater than the difference in how much the fanbase likes them, but that can be contributed mostly to the original Dark Souls being the most influencing one. Dark Souls III being the second one of them to make the contest probably didnt surprise anyone. The second one is the least popular one by a decent margin. Dark Souls III was mostly expected to win in this match and then lose the next match, but it had an outside shot of doing better than that. Bloodborne looked a lot better than last time, maybe Dark Souls III would be stronger than we thought. Dark Souls III did just about what you would expect of it. Dishonored is past its peak and will probably slowly be forgotten, while Dark Souls is still talked about a lot. Dishonored didnt even make the bracket in 2015, where it more relevant. It just didnt really do anything groundbreaking and while being a fine game for most part, it was overshadowed. It managed to hold Dark Souls III down enough for New Vegas to remain the favorite in the next round, of thats any achievement. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/20/20 7:04:21 AM #111:	Round 1 Division 5 Day 10 The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth 43.47% Nioh 56.53% Prediction Percentage 44.12% Heres the match that got all the attention today. We had seen indie games being good so far and Binding of Isaac was already the favorite to win before the contest started. At this point, not many kept their faith in Nioh. In fact, people generally thought Binding of Isaac would win rather easily. Nioh had about a third of the gurus supporting it and about a sixth of the oracles. Yet it won, and it won rather easily, giving life to what was otherwise a pretty boring division so far. Neither Binding of Isaac or Nioh looked very great in their Game of the Year polls and the former got just 25% against 2015-Witcher 3 in the previous games contest. They both looked to be bad and not far from each other. The top option is usually a good choice in such cases. If anyone considered it, Binding of Isaac could also stand out like a sore thumb today. The fatal mistake here was probably to underestimate just how good 2017 is. Nioh was up against Persona 5, Horizon and Automata, which are all huge. It was the first real sign of how good anything that year was. Resident Evil 7 came first, but it wasnt truly given credit before the next round happened. Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey dominated, but were also both expected to, and Hollow Knight wasnt as big back then as it became. Nioh made the upset though. The match was exciting in the beginning. Binding of Isaac won the board vote and they were dead even in the opening minutes causing all of us to work our f5 keys. In those minutes, you should feel best as a Nioh supporter. Most indie games had started of strong and stabilized throughout the match. We also knew Binding of Isaac was the favorite and had most bracket votes. At the freeze, the difference was only a 9-vote lead for Nioh. It extended that to 40 next update, which basically sealed the deal. Binding of Isaac stalled for two updates giving hope to some supporters, but the board vote is not just the opening five minutes, its the first 15 or 20. Its usually from that point the board opinion loses influence and true enough, Nioh went from 48 to 122 and never looked back again, being a few votes away from a 3000-vote lead by the end. This was hugely unexpected after all the indie dominance, but it gave more life to the idea that perhaps indie games from the first half of the decade would not be as strong as the ones from the latter half. Furthermore, with Bloodborne looking good and people generally having high expectations for Dark Souls, credit was also given to Nioh for simply just being better than we thought. No one had the idea yet that indie games just werent quite at the level we made them to be on average, or that you cant really group them as much as we like to do. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939434480] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 5 Day 10 The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth 43.47% Nioh 56.53% Prediction Percentage 44.12% Heres the match that got all the attention today. We had seen indie games being good so far and Binding of Isaac was already the favorite to win before the contest started. At this point, not many kept their faith in Nioh. In fact, people generally thought Binding of Isaac would win rather easily. Nioh had about a third of the gurus supporting it and about a sixth of the oracles. Yet it won, and it won rather easily, giving life to what was otherwise a pretty boring division so far. Neither Binding of Isaac or Nioh looked very great in their Game of the Year polls and the former got just 25% against 2015-Witcher 3 in the previous games contest. They both looked to be bad and not far from each other. The top option is usually a good choice in such cases. If anyone considered it, Binding of Isaac could also stand out like a sore thumb today. The fatal mistake here was probably to underestimate just how good 2017 is. Nioh was up against Persona 5, Horizon and Automata, which are all huge. It was the first real sign of how good anything that year was. Resident Evil 7 came first, but it wasnt truly given credit before the next round happened. Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey dominated, but were also both expected to, and Hollow Knight wasnt as big back then as it became. Nioh made the upset though. The match was exciting in the beginning. Binding of Isaac won the board vote and they were dead even in the opening minutes causing all of us to work our f5 keys. In those minutes, you should feel best as a Nioh supporter. Most indie games had started of strong and stabilized throughout the match. We also knew Binding of Isaac was the favorite and had most bracket votes. At the freeze, the difference was only a 9-vote lead for Nioh. It extended that to 40 next update, which basically sealed the deal. Binding of Isaac stalled for two updates giving hope to some supporters, but the board vote is not just the opening five minutes, its the first 15 or 20. Its usually from that point the board opinion loses influence and true enough, Nioh went from 48 to 122 and never looked back again, being a few votes away from a 3000-vote lead by the end. This was hugely unexpected after all the indie dominance, but it gave more life to the idea that perhaps indie games from the first half of the decade would not be as strong as the ones from the latter half. Furthermore, with Bloodborne looking good and people generally having high expectations for Dark Souls, credit was also given to Nioh for simply just being better than we thought. No one had the idea yet that indie games just werent quite at the level we made them to be on average, or that you cant really group them as much as we like to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/20/20 10:42:34 AM #112:	Round 1 Division 5 Day 10 God of War 84.92% The Talos Principle 15.08% Prediction Percentage 96.10% God of War was hyped to be something that could upset some #1 seeds before the contest. The game was very well received, and it got very close to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate in the final Game of the Year poll of 2018, a poll that people like to being up more often that it probably should be, but nevertheless served to hype God of War quite a bit. God of War was however put in division of The Witcher 3, which had the potential to be the worst one you could draw other than of course Breath of the Wild. God of War did its best to live up to its hype, by almost cracking 85%, something that is never a bad result. It was against The Talos Principle, which is one of the weakest games of the bracket, but again, getting a percentage among the best of the contest isnt bad. This match didnt make its chances of living up to the hype worse. The problem was that The Witcher 3 did almost just as well on Assassins Creed Odyssey, and while those two are more similar, Assassins Creed is also a much bigger name than The Talos Principle. God of War looked to be in a very similar situation to Super Mario Galaxy 2, which also demolished fodder but looked right ahead at The Witcher 3. The chances of God of War making it out of the division were not looking great. The Talos Principle is just happy to be the contest. Its one of the most obscure games in the bracket, but perhaps being ported to consoles in recent years gave it just enough exposure to make it in. It probably needed to be against something unknown or something that gets anti-voted if it were to do better than this. Considering its a #15 seed, only the latter seems possible, so I guess Three Houses was its best bet? Or The Last of Us if the leaks of the second game had emerged earlier? Its a fun game if youre into puzzle stuff, so hopefully its contest showing made some play it that had not already. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939440088] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 5 Day 10 God of War 84.92% The Talos Principle 15.08% Prediction Percentage 96.10% God of War was hyped to be something that could upset some #1 seeds before the contest. The game was very well received, and it got very close to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate in the final Game of the Year poll of 2018, a poll that people like to being up more often that it probably should be, but nevertheless served to hype God of War quite a bit. God of War was however put in division of The Witcher 3, which had the potential to be the worst one you could draw other than of course Breath of the Wild. God of War did its best to live up to its hype, by almost cracking 85%, something that is never a bad result. It was against The Talos Principle, which is one of the weakest games of the bracket, but again, getting a percentage among the best of the contest isnt bad. This match didnt make its chances of living up to the hype worse. The problem was that The Witcher 3 did almost just as well on Assassins Creed Odyssey, and while those two are more similar, Assassins Creed is also a much bigger name than The Talos Principle. God of War looked to be in a very similar situation to Super Mario Galaxy 2, which also demolished fodder but looked right ahead at The Witcher 3. The chances of God of War making it out of the division were not looking great. The Talos Principle is just happy to be the contest. Its one of the most obscure games in the bracket, but perhaps being ported to consoles in recent years gave it just enough exposure to make it in. It probably needed to be against something unknown or something that gets anti-voted if it were to do better than this. Considering its a #15 seed, only the latter seems possible, so I guess Three Houses was its best bet? Or The Last of Us if the leaks of the second game had emerged earlier? Its a fun game if youre into puzzle stuff, so hopefully its contest showing made some play it that had not already. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Safer_777 05/20/20 12:33:12 PM #113:	I have said this in my anallysis so many times. How so many indie games that nobody talks about got in, yet games like Pokemon Go and PUBG didn't got in. --- So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? Azuarc the best Guru of the 2020 Contest! Nice job man! <cite>Safer_777 posted [p:939444351] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I have said this in my anallysis so many times. How so many indie games that nobody talks about got in, yet games like Pokemon Go and PUBG didn't got in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gall 05/20/20 1:38:01 PM #114:	God of War ended up just a hair above Mass Effect 2 in the (adjusted) stats. That would've been an interesting match. I would still give Mass Effect 2 the edge for seniority and having much stronger RPG elements. --- Toss a win to your azuarc O guru of GotD <cite>Gall posted [p:939447186] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>God of War ended up just a hair above Mass Effect 2 in the (adjusted) stats. That would've been an interesting match. I would still give Mass Effect 2 the edge for seniority and having much stronger RPG elements. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big Bob 05/21/20 8:19:35 AM #115:	Fortnite made it in, so I'm not surprised PUBG didn't make the cut. Pokemon Go's absence was kind of weird, though. It definitely feels more a "game of the decade" than HG/SS, even though I despise the thing. --- Come watch me on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/gameryogi azuarc beat me. <cite>Big Bob posted [p:939485388] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Fortnite made it in, so I'm not surprised PUBG didn't make the cut. Pokemon Go's absence was kind of weird, though. It definitely feels more a "game of the decade" than HG/SS, even though I despise the thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/21/20 8:55:39 AM #116:	I don't mind from a personal perspective, but it feels weird not have Pokmon GO in. The weeks following its release it took the whole world by storm in a way we've never seen it was fantastic. The current time is like the opposite of that. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939486296] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I don't mind from a personal perspective, but it feels weird not have Pokmon GO in. The weeks following its release it took the whole world by storm in a way we've never seen it was fantastic. The current time is like the opposite of that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/21/20 10:14:39 AM #117:	I was going to ask if a mobile game made it in, but I believe that would be Fate/Grand Order? Seriously, what the heck? I stupidly wasted a point on it thinking that its 8 seed and franchise name meant it was a popular visual novel and thus should be able to beat a game that has never done well in any poll before. I guess you could say Journey got GOTD respect though. I guess I should play it sometime, but that game never really interested me much aside from when it was very new. Also the guy who made the game goes by the moniker "Jenova", which is almost certainly why it was fed to FFVII in 2015. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:939488621] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I was going to ask if a mobile game made it in, but I believe that would be Fate/Grand Order? Seriously, what the heck? I stupidly wasted a point on it thinking that its 8 seed and franchise name meant it was a popular visual novel and thus should be able to beat a game that has never done well in any poll before. I guess you could say Journey got GOTD respect though. I guess I should play it sometime, but that game never really interested me much aside from when it was very new. Also the guy who made the game goes by the moniker "Jenova", which is almost certainly why it was fed to FFVII in 2015. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/21/20 11:10:43 AM #118:	Round 1 Division 6 Day 11 Persona 5 78.29% Heavy Rain 21.71% Prediction Percentage 90.4% Persona 5 is one of the boards favorite games. If thats wrong, then it just has the loudest fans. Board 8 was into Persona way before it was cool, and the fact that our baby has become as big as it has to the point of getting a #1 seed in anything seems to be more happiness than our minds can handle. Persona 5 was given one of the easier divisions, seemingly. Most people didnt think there was an upset chance here, but almost everyone that went for an upset in the previous division took it past here as well, although everyone in this context isnt that many people. Persona 5 had one of the simplest routes in the contest, most of us would agree. Anything Persona 5 does that can be twisted into a good showing was taken as a good showing. Maybe Im giving the stats topic or a couple of loud users too much credit here, but its the vibe you would get from reading the board on Persona 5 match days, and Ive been defending the idea that Persona 5 is great but not fantastic in these contests a lot. That it never stood a chance of making it out of top 8, regardless of which of the top 4 it was allowed to face. Persona 5 finished second in the Game of the Year polls, winning the Playstation one and barely avoiding getting doubled by Breath of the Wild in the end in a 7-way poll. Severely SFFd Super Mario Odyssey almost avoided that too in 10-way poll with two other Mario games that got almost no votes, yet the final poll seemed to be an indicator of too great things for Persona 5. Not that any of those polls should mean that much. Now what would Persona 5 need to keep the hype up today? In the minds of some, probably just advancing would be enough. It was 0.08% away from the general consensus in the oracle, so it did as it should almost as much as you possibly could I suppose. That should keep all hope up. Heavy Rain was never that big and its mostly a joke these days, Im afraid. Ill defend the game and say that I enjoyed it a lot, but I havent played it in 10 years, which might be good for what I think of it. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939490562] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 6 Day 11 Persona 5 78.29% Heavy Rain 21.71% Prediction Percentage 90.4% Persona 5 is one of the boards favorite games. If thats wrong, then it just has the loudest fans. Board 8 was into Persona way before it was cool, and the fact that our baby has become as big as it has to the point of getting a #1 seed in anything seems to be more happiness than our minds can handle. Persona 5 was given one of the easier divisions, seemingly. Most people didnt think there was an upset chance here, but almost everyone that went for an upset in the previous division took it past here as well, although everyone in this context isnt that many people. Persona 5 had one of the simplest routes in the contest, most of us would agree. Anything Persona 5 does that can be twisted into a good showing was taken as a good showing. Maybe Im giving the stats topic or a couple of loud users too much credit here, but its the vibe you would get from reading the board on Persona 5 match days, and Ive been defending the idea that Persona 5 is great but not fantastic in these contests a lot. That it never stood a chance of making it out of top 8, regardless of which of the top 4 it was allowed to face. Persona 5 finished second in the Game of the Year polls, winning the Playstation one and barely avoiding getting doubled by Breath of the Wild in the end in a 7-way poll. Severely SFFd Super Mario Odyssey almost avoided that too in 10-way poll with two other Mario games that got almost no votes, yet the final poll seemed to be an indicator of too great things for Persona 5. Not that any of those polls should mean that much. Now what would Persona 5 need to keep the hype up today? In the minds of some, probably just advancing would be enough. It was 0.08% away from the general consensus in the oracle, so it did as it should almost as much as you possibly could I suppose. That should keep all hope up. Heavy Rain was never that big and its mostly a joke these days, Im afraid. Ill defend the game and say that I enjoyed it a lot, but I havent played it in 10 years, which might be good for what I think of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/21/20 11:58:12 AM #119:	Round 1 Division 6 Day 11 Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag 56.44% Sid Meier's Civilization V 43.56% Prediction Percentage 64.34% On paper, this really seemed like a big match of which of these things we dont care about, do we care about the least. Civilization V is nothing like what we usually enjoy here, but no one has anything against it either, similar to Age of Empires, although Civilization is probably bigger than that. We know what it is but put it against something we care about and it rolls over. Black Flag is a by genre a lot more something that we enjoy, but there are definitely people with something against it. Civilization was also close to getting a victory in the previous Game of the Decade contest, losing just barely to Persona 3, which was pretty bad. The fifth one is generally regarded as being the best one from what I can observe, so it could be a bit better than that. Assassins Creed IV is untested, but Assassins Creed as a franchise used to be good enough but is pretty terrible today. A few days prior to this match, Assassins Creed Odyssey rolled over and died. Black Flag is generally preferred among the fanbase of the two however, so it might still have what it takes to beat a Civilization game. The match was about as uninteresting a one can get with percentages like those. It was over almost right away. Black Flag clearly had board vote, but after that it stabilized, and the percentages were quite consistent for the reminder of the match. It appears we cared slightly more about Assassins Creed in the end, but I dont think thats really what made the difference. The prediction percentage shows that Assassins Creed was favored by almost two thirds of bracket. Thats probably for being the bigger name or maybe for being the higher seed, even though its close. If Civilization had that prediction percentage, theres a chance the result flips, at least it gets a lot closer. The match does show Assassins Creed isnt as anti-voted as something like Dota 2, Fortnite or Call of Duty. It can still get the majority of the voters in some matches. I wonder if Odyssey would also win this just by having the Assassins Creed name. It probably still does, even if its a little closer. We dont have that many hardcore Assassins Creed fans these days, what the fanbase favorite is probably means very little. I wouldve liked for Civilization to actually get the victory, it has never had, but this was probably its best chance ever. Maybe next Game of the Decade if they make another good one and it gets the right opponent. A little fun fact to round off the match. My girlfriends father is cited in Civilization for something he first said about thirty years ago. Hes not someone you know and can easily look up, so it just appears like a random name in the game. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939492352] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 6 Day 11 Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag 56.44% Sid Meier's Civilization V 43.56% Prediction Percentage 64.34% On paper, this really seemed like a big match of which of these things we dont care about, do we care about the least. Civilization V is nothing like what we usually enjoy here, but no one has anything against it either, similar to Age of Empires, although Civilization is probably bigger than that. We know what it is but put it against something we care about and it rolls over. Black Flag is a by genre a lot more something that we enjoy, but there are definitely people with something against it. Civilization was also close to getting a victory in the previous Game of the Decade contest, losing just barely to Persona 3, which was pretty bad. The fifth one is generally regarded as being the best one from what I can observe, so it could be a bit better than that. Assassins Creed IV is untested, but Assassins Creed as a franchise used to be good enough but is pretty terrible today. A few days prior to this match, Assassins Creed Odyssey rolled over and died. Black Flag is generally preferred among the fanbase of the two however, so it might still have what it takes to beat a Civilization game. The match was about as uninteresting a one can get with percentages like those. It was over almost right away. Black Flag clearly had board vote, but after that it stabilized, and the percentages were quite consistent for the reminder of the match. It appears we cared slightly more about Assassins Creed in the end, but I dont think thats really what made the difference. The prediction percentage shows that Assassins Creed was favored by almost two thirds of bracket. Thats probably for being the bigger name or maybe for being the higher seed, even though its close. If Civilization had that prediction percentage, theres a chance the result flips, at least it gets a lot closer. The match does show Assassins Creed isnt as anti-voted as something like Dota 2, Fortnite or Call of Duty. It can still get the majority of the voters in some matches. I wonder if Odyssey would also win this just by having the Assassins Creed name. It probably still does, even if its a little closer. We dont have that many hardcore Assassins Creed fans these days, what the fanbase favorite is probably means very little. I wouldve liked for Civilization to actually get the victory, it has never had, but this was probably its best chance ever. Maybe next Game of the Decade if they make another good one and it gets the right opponent. A little fun fact to round off the match. My girlfriends father is cited in Civilization for something he first said about thirty years ago. Hes not someone you know and can easily look up, so it just appears like a random name in the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/21/20 12:45:40 PM #120:	Round 1 Division 6 Day 11 Sonic Mania 62.74% Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA 37.26% Prediction Percentage 78.37% Sonic Mania was a huge board favorite, having gotten a solid nomination rally and earned its high seed as a result of it. It looked to be in a position where it could make round 3 and it was also the favorite to do so. Sonic Mania is popular for a modern Sonic game and the name still carries some strength with it. Its crazy to think that there might not even be a Sonic game in the bracket if the board hadnt pushed so hard for it to happen. Maybe Allen wouldve kept one in for legacy, but theres no Mega Man despite those being just fine as well, no Metroid although that one didnt have the best options. The Noble Nine is mostly represented in Smash Bros these days, except of course for Zelda and Mario, which are as dominant as ever. Super Meat Boy awaited in the next match and upon many indie games doing so well, the idea that Super Meat Boy could perhaps beat Sonic Mania in round 2 was gaining some traction. 15% of gurus went with before the contest, but it was getting more popular. Sonic Mania is most likely among the more preferable round 2 opponents to draw. An exciting battle of overseeded entrants at the cause of board 8 looked to come up. Then the match happened, and Sonic Mania went way below expectations. The board vote was very great, but Sonic fell drastically after that. It was against a Ys game, which isnt something you expect a lot of people to know much about despite how many of them there exists. The franchise has existed for a long time but has only recently been promoted from nothing to niche. Sonic needed to do better here. It looked to be very lucky it didnt draw something else or it might have not made it out of round 1. The next match looked to be close. Super Meat Boy looked fine, but not all too great considering it was facing something we expected to be among the worst of this already fodder filled bracket. We know that this result is just not as bad as one could have expected. Ys VIII is apparently not all that bad. I mean, theres still not much point in having it in a regular games contest other than acknowledging it wasnt trash, but it couldve won the right match in this contest perhaps. If board 8 had pushed it to a high seed, it suddenly becomes a lot more possible. We have nothing to compare it to, because its the first time ever a Ys game has been in the bracket, but I dont think another entry couldve done better at any point unless perhaps we had a games contest in 1990, which we obviously didnt. For all the worthless series we have, maybe you just have to be extremely patient and you can one day become worth something in a contest here. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939494437] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 6 Day 11 Sonic Mania 62.74% Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA 37.26% Prediction Percentage 78.37% Sonic Mania was a huge board favorite, having gotten a solid nomination rally and earned its high seed as a result of it. It looked to be in a position where it could make round 3 and it was also the favorite to do so. Sonic Mania is popular for a modern Sonic game and the name still carries some strength with it. Its crazy to think that there might not even be a Sonic game in the bracket if the board hadnt pushed so hard for it to happen. Maybe Allen wouldve kept one in for legacy, but theres no Mega Man despite those being just fine as well, no Metroid although that one didnt have the best options. The Noble Nine is mostly represented in Smash Bros these days, except of course for Zelda and Mario, which are as dominant as ever. Super Meat Boy awaited in the next match and upon many indie games doing so well, the idea that Super Meat Boy could perhaps beat Sonic Mania in round 2 was gaining some traction. 15% of gurus went with before the contest, but it was getting more popular. Sonic Mania is most likely among the more preferable round 2 opponents to draw. An exciting battle of overseeded entrants at the cause of board 8 looked to come up. Then the match happened, and Sonic Mania went way below expectations. The board vote was very great, but Sonic fell drastically after that. It was against a Ys game, which isnt something you expect a lot of people to know much about despite how many of them there exists. The franchise has existed for a long time but has only recently been promoted from nothing to niche. Sonic needed to do better here. It looked to be very lucky it didnt draw something else or it might have not made it out of round 1. The next match looked to be close. Super Meat Boy looked fine, but not all too great considering it was facing something we expected to be among the worst of this already fodder filled bracket. We know that this result is just not as bad as one could have expected. Ys VIII is apparently not all that bad. I mean, theres still not much point in having it in a regular games contest other than acknowledging it wasnt trash, but it couldve won the right match in this contest perhaps. If board 8 had pushed it to a high seed, it suddenly becomes a lot more possible. We have nothing to compare it to, because its the first time ever a Ys game has been in the bracket, but I dont think another entry couldve done better at any point unless perhaps we had a games contest in 1990, which we obviously didnt. For all the worthless series we have, maybe you just have to be extremely patient and you can one day become worth something in a contest here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/21/20 1:11:15 PM #121:	Round 1 Division 6 Day 11 Super Meat Boy 68.96% Slay the Spire 31.04% Prediction Percentage 81.45% Super Meat Boy received a high seed this contest because of being Advokaisers choice as the guru nomination, which put it in a easy first match with a little shot of making round 3 due to likely running into another overseeded game in round 2. Considering how Allen clearly preferred to represent as many games as possible, Advo couldve aimed to get something different into the bracket because Super Meat Boy wouldve made it regardless but getting to be in a winnable position is also nice. Im glad the guru nomination wasnt something like Super Mario Maker 2 if the series cap actually existed, so its a good choice. Slay the Spire was expected to among the absolute weakest of games in the bracket. Its not known very well and its not the type of game we tend to like at all. Despite doubling it, Super Meat Boy didnt look all too great here. Super Meat Boy still had hopes of getting to round 3 because Sonic Mania looked quite disappointing in the adjacent match, but this wasnt a particularly good performance. At this point, we were pretty confident that indie fear should be limited to the later half of the decade with only a few obvious exceptions like Shovel Knight, which has all the mainstream exposure it couldve hoped for. Super Meat Boy is among the earliest of them, so it was only natural it wouldnt be all too god. It didnt release in a time where many had opened their eyes to indies, so this match was in line with that theory. Not that it disappointed much, it just didnt look on par with some of the other indies we had seen in action. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939495653] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 6 Day 11 Super Meat Boy 68.96% Slay the Spire 31.04% Prediction Percentage 81.45% Super Meat Boy received a high seed this contest because of being Advokaisers choice as the guru nomination, which put it in a easy first match with a little shot of making round 3 due to likely running into another overseeded game in round 2. Considering how Allen clearly preferred to represent as many games as possible, Advo couldve aimed to get something different into the bracket because Super Meat Boy wouldve made it regardless but getting to be in a winnable position is also nice. Im glad the guru nomination wasnt something like Super Mario Maker 2 if the series cap actually existed, so its a good choice. Slay the Spire was expected to among the absolute weakest of games in the bracket. Its not known very well and its not the type of game we tend to like at all. Despite doubling it, Super Meat Boy didnt look all too great here. Super Meat Boy still had hopes of getting to round 3 because Sonic Mania looked quite disappointing in the adjacent match, but this wasnt a particularly good performance. At this point, we were pretty confident that indie fear should be limited to the later half of the decade with only a few obvious exceptions like Shovel Knight, which has all the mainstream exposure it couldve hoped for. Super Meat Boy is among the earliest of them, so it was only natural it wouldnt be all too god. It didnt release in a time where many had opened their eyes to indies, so this match was in line with that theory. Not that it disappointed much, it just didnt look on par with some of the other indies we had seen in action. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/21/20 3:49:37 PM #122:	Round 1 Division 6 Day 12 Portal 2 65.29% Tomb Raider 34.71% Prediction Percentage 80.20% Portal 2 was thought to be the most likely game to make the division finals, but I dont think anyone of us had huge confidence in it. Kingdom Hearts is a more beloved franchise of ours, Red Dead Redemption 2 had good potential and even Animal Crossing could be good enough now that New Horizons had released to the best possible reception right before the contest. Back when the Portal games came out they were huge, spawned countless memes, and they were very popular here too. The board loved them. Portal 2 is only just recent enough to be in this contest. Its heydays are over. GLaDOS looked quite a bit weaker in 2018 than in previous contests. Portal 2 could only fall so much and not be out of favor for the spot. It ended up having the worst winning percentage of the day, so it shouldnt be too dominant, but it still came out of round 1 as the favorite. Tomb Raider is a good game. Its far from the series peak, but you should pick it against the other losing games today. It can do something on name alone, particularly when we have forced voting. People that have played neither game today might vote for the franchise with the bigger name. Portal is not the best series to take advantage of that against, but it still made Portal 2 look good enough here. We will probably never know how well the old Tomb Raider games wouldve done in a contest setting, but Im not expecting it to be much more than this honestly. Maybe if we had a contest when they were new, but they would be riding more on their name than the actual games themselves. There is probably a reason that Tomb Raider has never been in any games contests before. Even back in the early contests, Lara Croft was never that good and Im not thinking the games would be better relative to the field than she has ever been. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939503197] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 6 Day 12 Portal 2 65.29% Tomb Raider 34.71% Prediction Percentage 80.20% Portal 2 was thought to be the most likely game to make the division finals, but I dont think anyone of us had huge confidence in it. Kingdom Hearts is a more beloved franchise of ours, Red Dead Redemption 2 had good potential and even Animal Crossing could be good enough now that New Horizons had released to the best possible reception right before the contest. Back when the Portal games came out they were huge, spawned countless memes, and they were very popular here too. The board loved them. Portal 2 is only just recent enough to be in this contest. Its heydays are over. GLaDOS looked quite a bit weaker in 2018 than in previous contests. Portal 2 could only fall so much and not be out of favor for the spot. It ended up having the worst winning percentage of the day, so it shouldnt be too dominant, but it still came out of round 1 as the favorite. Tomb Raider is a good game. Its far from the series peak, but you should pick it against the other losing games today. It can do something on name alone, particularly when we have forced voting. People that have played neither game today might vote for the franchise with the bigger name. Portal is not the best series to take advantage of that against, but it still made Portal 2 look good enough here. We will probably never know how well the old Tomb Raider games wouldve done in a contest setting, but Im not expecting it to be much more than this honestly. Maybe if we had a contest when they were new, but they would be riding more on their name than the actual games themselves. There is probably a reason that Tomb Raider has never been in any games contests before. Even back in the early contests, Lara Croft was never that good and Im not thinking the games would be better relative to the field than she has ever been. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 05/21/20 4:13:20 PM #123:	i was a bit annoyed about moltar and transience being 100% confident in the crew topic that ori was going to lose against inquisition tbqh. not saying it was an easy match to predict, and i got it wrong too, but the result wasn't so out of left field that only 0.1% of the participants correctly predicted it or something. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:939504439] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>i was a bit annoyed about moltar and transience being 100% confident in the crew topic that ori was going to lose against inquisition tbqh. not saying it was an easy match to predict, and i got it wrong too, but the result wasn't so out of left field that only 0.1% of the participants correctly predicted it or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/21/20 4:50:38 PM #124:	I just remembered Dragon Age being a 2014 GOTY contender and left it at that. Had I thought about Ori being more talked about since then and lol Bioware, I might have picked the upset. Though it's another case where I just didn't know enough about either game so I didn't really know how well they were supposed to do. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:939506495] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I just remembered Dragon Age being a 2014 GOTY contender and left it at that. Had I thought about Ori being more talked about since then and lol Bioware, I might have picked the upset. Though it's another case where I just didn't know enough about either game so I didn't really know how well they were supposed to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 05/21/20 6:17:44 PM #125:	yeah, will of the wisps getting released a month before the match probably played a part in the original ori winning. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:939510584] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>yeah, will of the wisps getting released a month before the match probably played a part in the original ori winning. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 05/21/20 6:18:18 PM #126:	pokmon go was probably too casual to make the bracket. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:939510614] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>pokmon go was probably too casual to make the bracket. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 3:19:06 AM #127:	Hmm, perhaps, but we had more of such things in the bracket. I'm thinking it had more to do with its metacritic being awful. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939531016] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Hmm, perhaps, but we had more of such things in the bracket. I'm thinking it had more to do with its metacritic being awful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 3:19:30 AM #128:	Round 1 Division 6 Day 12 Kingdom Hearts III 68.06% Disco Elysium 31.94% Prediction Percentage 83.59% I was pretty excited to see Kingdom Hearts III in the field. It missed the Game of the Year field because Allen has begun basically only looking at Metacritic scores picking games for those things, so it was snubbed for things no one remembers. Its such a weird decision not to have sales influence at all in my opinion. Luckily, it did not mean it couldnt make this contest, though Im sure it has been nominated a lot to get a #6 seed, because the critic scores sure didnt do it. Sora has gotten a #1 seed too many times, so its not new that the site nominates Kingdom Hearts things a lot. Everyone knows the game released to very mixed opinions. First of all, it came out 6 years after being revealed and they had probably been working on the concept for many years prior to that. We are skeptical of most things Square has released ever since well, Kingdom Hearts II probably. In the meantime, lots of Kingdom Hearts things had come out. Calling this one III is mostly just a move to promote a console release, because its a sequel to Dream Drop Distance, which is a sequel to Coded and that one is a sequel to the one called II. Remaking all the handheld games as 1.5, 2.5 and 2.8 probably didnt make anyone less confused about the whole thing. I mean, I appreciate the release of all the games on consoles leading up the release of this one, but it was just as much of a mess as the story of the series. They had less Worlds because they were going for bigger Disney names and Disney is the toughest company in the world to deal with when it comes to rights. They also chose not to include Final Fantasy characters on the mostly incorrect assumption that the original Kingdom Hearts characters have been well enough established and liked for them to not need Final Fantasy. Not only is that a bold claim, but its also weird to think that increased quality in one thing means they didnt need something else that people loved. Were they aiming for conservation of quality? They sure did not appear to get that in the heads of most. It was still a anticipated game named Kingdom Hearts, so it was never going to be complete trash. This site is Square fans at heart even if theyve done their best to make us change our minds most of this century. It was enough that taking Kingdom Hearts III to the division finals was a decently popular upset pick. It did not quite do well enough to be the favorite going into round 2, but it wasnt out of the question. Disco Elysium looks really good and its a shame it could not win a match. Actually, whats a shame is that its so far a PC exclusive. Its being released on current generation consoles later this year. If it had been released on those already we had probably seen it with a higher seed and quite a bit stronger, even though it wouldnt be extraordinary. It is an RPG after all. I want to play it when it hits PS4 so hopefully I can find the time. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939531025] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 6 Day 12 Kingdom Hearts III 68.06% Disco Elysium 31.94% Prediction Percentage 83.59% I was pretty excited to see Kingdom Hearts III in the field. It missed the Game of the Year field because Allen has begun basically only looking at Metacritic scores picking games for those things, so it was snubbed for things no one remembers. Its such a weird decision not to have sales influence at all in my opinion. Luckily, it did not mean it couldnt make this contest, though Im sure it has been nominated a lot to get a #6 seed, because the critic scores sure didnt do it. Sora has gotten a #1 seed too many times, so its not new that the site nominates Kingdom Hearts things a lot. Everyone knows the game released to very mixed opinions. First of all, it came out 6 years after being revealed and they had probably been working on the concept for many years prior to that. We are skeptical of most things Square has released ever since well, Kingdom Hearts II probably. In the meantime, lots of Kingdom Hearts things had come out. Calling this one III is mostly just a move to promote a console release, because its a sequel to Dream Drop Distance, which is a sequel to Coded and that one is a sequel to the one called II. Remaking all the handheld games as 1.5, 2.5 and 2.8 probably didnt make anyone less confused about the whole thing. I mean, I appreciate the release of all the games on consoles leading up the release of this one, but it was just as much of a mess as the story of the series. They had less Worlds because they were going for bigger Disney names and Disney is the toughest company in the world to deal with when it comes to rights. They also chose not to include Final Fantasy characters on the mostly incorrect assumption that the original Kingdom Hearts characters have been well enough established and liked for them to not need Final Fantasy. Not only is that a bold claim, but its also weird to think that increased quality in one thing means they didnt need something else that people loved. Were they aiming for conservation of quality? They sure did not appear to get that in the heads of most. It was still a anticipated game named Kingdom Hearts, so it was never going to be complete trash. This site is Square fans at heart even if theyve done their best to make us change our minds most of this century. It was enough that taking Kingdom Hearts III to the division finals was a decently popular upset pick. It did not quite do well enough to be the favorite going into round 2, but it wasnt out of the question. Disco Elysium looks really good and its a shame it could not win a match. Actually, whats a shame is that its so far a PC exclusive. Its being released on current generation consoles later this year. If it had been released on those already we had probably seen it with a higher seed and quite a bit stronger, even though it wouldnt be extraordinary. It is an RPG after all. I want to play it when it hits PS4 so hopefully I can find the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 05/22/20 6:03:05 AM #129:	ctesjbuvf posted... Hmm, perhaps, but we had more of such things in the bracket. I'm thinking it had more to do with its metacritic being awful. yeah, it's probably a combination of the two. we did see some super casual games advance to round 2 (minecraft, overwatch, stardew valley [if it counts]) but none of them had great performances. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:939533863] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite> <quote>Hmm, perhaps, but we had more of such things in the bracket. I'm thinking it had more to do with its metacritic being awful.</quote> yeah, it's probably a combination of the two. we did see some super casual games advance to round 2 (minecraft, overwatch, stardew valley [if it counts]) but none of them had great performances. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 6:18:35 AM #130:	Round 1 Division 6 Day 12 Animal Crossing: New Leaf 66.51% Street Fighter V 33.49% Prediction Percentage 69.08% This match is such a good example of how much a franchise can have changed in the eyes of its fans. Animal Crossing started out rather niche and took its time to become one of Nintendos greatest. New Leaf was huge, however, and this contest came right after New Horizons came out broke almost as many sales records as it possible could. If theres one bad thing about this being a Game of the Decade contest and not a regular one, its that we couldve seen New Horizons on the field right in the middle of when the whole internet is in love with it. The pandemic certainly helped to some extent, but it was always going to be huge. Its coming out on a console that everyone really loves, which hasnt really been possible for it before. You could argue the Wii, but Animal Crossing hadnt quite reached the heights it is at now when the Wii was liked. Its weird, its not the type of game we usually care hugely for but perhaps with Nintendo written on the box, that doesnt matter as much. It wouldve been so much fun to see New Horizons in a contest this spring. New Leaf might have gotten some of that boost, however. It was expected to be stronger than it was back in 2015, though its hard to make much of that run when it was fed to Super Mario World in round one. In any case, when literally everyone is currently playing New Horizons, itll probably draw some votes to the Animal Crossing game. On the other hand, we have Street Fighter, which used to be a big series but has fallen off a cliff. Ryu has always been a character here, but its probably less than it used to be, and he can likely thank Smash that its not worse than it wouldve been if he hasnt gotten into that. Street Fighter missed the previous contest and its only in now because the bracket is the most diverse thing weve ever had. Its sad to see. New Leaf came just short of the doubling, but still looks great enough today. Its a handheld game thats pretty far from what we tend to like here, and the Street Fighter name alone mightve kept it away from being complete fodder. Winning the next match wasnt out the question, although Red Dead Redemption 2 looks pretty fine as well. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939534123] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 6 Day 12 Animal Crossing: New Leaf 66.51% Street Fighter V 33.49% Prediction Percentage 69.08% This match is such a good example of how much a franchise can have changed in the eyes of its fans. Animal Crossing started out rather niche and took its time to become one of Nintendos greatest. New Leaf was huge, however, and this contest came right after New Horizons came out broke almost as many sales records as it possible could. If theres one bad thing about this being a Game of the Decade contest and not a regular one, its that we couldve seen New Horizons on the field right in the middle of when the whole internet is in love with it. The pandemic certainly helped to some extent, but it was always going to be huge. Its coming out on a console that everyone really loves, which hasnt really been possible for it before. You could argue the Wii, but Animal Crossing hadnt quite reached the heights it is at now when the Wii was liked. Its weird, its not the type of game we usually care hugely for but perhaps with Nintendo written on the box, that doesnt matter as much. It wouldve been so much fun to see New Horizons in a contest this spring. New Leaf might have gotten some of that boost, however. It was expected to be stronger than it was back in 2015, though its hard to make much of that run when it was fed to Super Mario World in round one. In any case, when literally everyone is currently playing New Horizons, itll probably draw some votes to the Animal Crossing game. On the other hand, we have Street Fighter, which used to be a big series but has fallen off a cliff. Ryu has always been a character here, but its probably less than it used to be, and he can likely thank Smash that its not worse than it wouldve been if he hasnt gotten into that. Street Fighter missed the previous contest and its only in now because the bracket is the most diverse thing weve ever had. Its sad to see. New Leaf came just short of the doubling, but still looks great enough today. Its a handheld game thats pretty far from what we tend to like here, and the Street Fighter name alone mightve kept it away from being complete fodder. Winning the next match wasnt out the question, although Red Dead Redemption 2 looks pretty fine as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/22/20 7:02:32 AM #131:	wtf happened to Capcom fighting games? Between Street Fighter V and Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite, sheesh. MvCI is the one that baffles me the most, though that might be at least as much Disney's fault. But who thought excising the X-Men and Fantastic Four from a Marvel crossover fighting game series was a good idea? And then why change the remaining Marvel characters to fit their MCU incarnations when the games are all about comic-style action? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:939534827] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>wtf happened to Capcom fighting games? Between Street Fighter V and Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite, sheesh. MvCI is the one that baffles me the most, though that might be at least as much Disney's fault. But who thought excising the X-Men and Fantastic Four from a Marvel crossover fighting game series was a good idea? And then why change the remaining Marvel characters to fit their MCU incarnations when the games are all about comic-style action? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 7:03:48 AM #132:	Round 1 Division 6 Day 12 Red Dead Redemption 2 81.40% Dying Light 18.60% Prediction Percentage 94.29% Red Dead Redemption 2 released a bit more than a year ago and was a huge success in every way. On GameFAQs however, we tend not to be as huge on them as anywhere else. There was a chance RDR2 could make the division finals, but its hard to pick a Rockstar game in debated matches and be confident about it. Theyre not weak, but they tend to lose matches here they would not lose anywhere else. RDR2 finished third in its Game of the Year poll behind Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and God of War. Its not a bad showing, but Portal 2 was the clear board favorite to make the division finals and with Animal Crossing: New Horizons taking the world by storm, maybe RDR2 had to worry about the next round as well. Today, Red Dead Redemption 2 looked as good as could probably. Rockstar games are probably always voted against to some extent here, but Dying Light is a good opponent for it. That game didnt do all that well and have already not aged too great. It was developed back when open world and horror was our two favorite things but came out a bit too late and wasnt fantastic. It might honestly be anti-voted more if people remember it. They probably do when they see the name, so perhaps RDR2 gets a freebie today. Breaking 80% against anything is good and especially when youre a Rockstar game on GameFAQs against a known game, so RDR2 could walk into round 2 with its hopes of getting further as high as it couldve hoped for. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939534840] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 6 Day 12 Red Dead Redemption 2 81.40% Dying Light 18.60% Prediction Percentage 94.29% Red Dead Redemption 2 released a bit more than a year ago and was a huge success in every way. On GameFAQs however, we tend not to be as huge on them as anywhere else. There was a chance RDR2 could make the division finals, but its hard to pick a Rockstar game in debated matches and be confident about it. Theyre not weak, but they tend to lose matches here they would not lose anywhere else. RDR2 finished third in its Game of the Year poll behind Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and God of War. Its not a bad showing, but Portal 2 was the clear board favorite to make the division finals and with Animal Crossing: New Horizons taking the world by storm, maybe RDR2 had to worry about the next round as well. Today, Red Dead Redemption 2 looked as good as could probably. Rockstar games are probably always voted against to some extent here, but Dying Light is a good opponent for it. That game didnt do all that well and have already not aged too great. It was developed back when open world and horror was our two favorite things but came out a bit too late and wasnt fantastic. It might honestly be anti-voted more if people remember it. They probably do when they see the name, so perhaps RDR2 gets a freebie today. Breaking 80% against anything is good and especially when youre a Rockstar game on GameFAQs against a known game, so RDR2 could walk into round 2 with its hopes of getting further as high as it couldve hoped for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 8:16:21 AM #133:	Round 1 Division 7 Day 13 Dark Souls 82.99% Hotline Miami 17.01% Prediction Percentage 93.08% Dark Souls was one of the most anticipated games to watch in the contest. Last contest, it was already good enough to make round 3 by upsetting Metal Gear Solid V. This contested, it was expected to do better. You cant talk about Game of the Decade without Dark Souls being brought up. The Soulsborne games have been a huge part of this decade and theyve been growing in popularity in the latter half the decade as well. Dark Souls has been very influential and has gained a lot of respect, a lot of which comes from the fact that its a hard game that came out in a time where the surge in mobile games made console games easier to complete or at least gave you the possibility of getting through on easy mode. You needed players to not give up and spent hours doing nothing on their new smartphone. Dark Souls however appealed to gamers building a reputation of the game being hard and it was successful enough for casuals to buy into it to. Its a bit stupid, but it worked. Im sure lots of kids today would name a Soulsborne game as the hardest thing ever and its not that bad, not even for its time, but word of mouth did this game huge favors. Of course, Dark Souls wouldve have become that big if being hard was the only thing it had going for it. Its a great game. Some people were taking it to beat Skyrim and a few took it to the finals. Others however looked at its 2015 stat and figured it already had its peak strength then, which would put it below The Last of Us, causing The Last of Us winning the division to be a very popular upset pick. Dark Souls proved itself today, however, adding yet another blowout to the long list this year. It was in this and we could not count it out of a long run yet. Hotline Miami is from the early part of the decade, but it has had releases in the latter half too. It was released on Switch a year ago and it was released on Xbox One on the day of this match. I bet you didnt know, but its true, though only if youre American, otherwise it would be past midnight and be the following day, but at the start of the match it was on release day. It probably didnt help the game in the slightest and thats confirmation that you arent really worth much, so as much as this looks good for Dark Souls, it was still not really possible to tell what it meant. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939536167] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 7 Day 13 Dark Souls 82.99% Hotline Miami 17.01% Prediction Percentage 93.08% Dark Souls was one of the most anticipated games to watch in the contest. Last contest, it was already good enough to make round 3 by upsetting Metal Gear Solid V. This contested, it was expected to do better. You cant talk about Game of the Decade without Dark Souls being brought up. The Soulsborne games have been a huge part of this decade and theyve been growing in popularity in the latter half the decade as well. Dark Souls has been very influential and has gained a lot of respect, a lot of which comes from the fact that its a hard game that came out in a time where the surge in mobile games made console games easier to complete or at least gave you the possibility of getting through on easy mode. You needed players to not give up and spent hours doing nothing on their new smartphone. Dark Souls however appealed to gamers building a reputation of the game being hard and it was successful enough for casuals to buy into it to. Its a bit stupid, but it worked. Im sure lots of kids today would name a Soulsborne game as the hardest thing ever and its not that bad, not even for its time, but word of mouth did this game huge favors. Of course, Dark Souls wouldve have become that big if being hard was the only thing it had going for it. Its a great game. Some people were taking it to beat Skyrim and a few took it to the finals. Others however looked at its 2015 stat and figured it already had its peak strength then, which would put it below The Last of Us, causing The Last of Us winning the division to be a very popular upset pick. Dark Souls proved itself today, however, adding yet another blowout to the long list this year. It was in this and we could not count it out of a long run yet. Hotline Miami is from the early part of the decade, but it has had releases in the latter half too. It was released on Switch a year ago and it was released on Xbox One on the day of this match. I bet you didnt know, but its true, though only if youre American, otherwise it would be past midnight and be the following day, but at the start of the match it was on release day. It probably didnt help the game in the slightest and thats confirmation that you arent really worth much, so as much as this looks good for Dark Souls, it was still not really possible to tell what it meant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 9:12:13 AM #134:	Round 1 Division 7 Day 13 Rocket League 51.66% Dragon Ball FighterZ 48.34% Prediction Percentage 61.47% This was a very debated match for the 1 point that its worth. You could make a good case for each of them here and the match and it was close enough to make each pick a fine choice. Rocket League is clearly the bigger game here, but we never cared for sports games and we never cared for racing games. Even though its different, Rocket League is still both of those! We also dont care for fighting games. This contest already showed the most recent Tekken, Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter being complete trash. If we ever did the days are certainly over. Mario Kart and Smash Bros are exceptions to this, but theyre different from their genre and also has well established popular characters in them. People picking Dragon Ball FighterZ were hoping that having such a big franchise name might be enough to give it the win in a debated match. The match was quite exciting for a while. The very early board vote seemed to favor Dragon Ball, but Rocket League had a super small lead up until the freeze where it led by 10 votes. An update later, Rocket League had extended this to only 29 votes, which should make you worry if you expected Rocket League to have the top option bracket votes. True enough, Dragon Ball took the lead 15 minutes into the match, although only by 5 votes. At that point, it seemed like it could run away with it, but Rocket League took the lead back again, though with a lead of only 2 votes. Fighting over who could have the smaller lead, Dragon Ball took the lead by 1 vote an update later, giving us perhaps the most exciting match of the contest so far. Dragon Ball would make a small attempt at taking the match from there, but it struggled a bit. It took some bumpy updates for Dragon Ball to get its lead above 30, and it couldnt keep it. Slowly cutting the lead down again, Rocket League went on to take the lead back and simultaneously show it was also capable of leading with exactly one vote. Then Rocket League would make a better attempt to build its lead, it slowly got up to the same place Dragon Ball was before bursting up to 81, looking like it was done. Dragon Ball had another form and it wasnt even the final one, so in 5 updates that it all won, the lead was cut back down to the 30s. Rocket League would have none of that and spent two updates putting the lead back up in the 70s. Unfortunately, Dragon Ball revealed its final form and in one beastly update threw the lead back into the 30s, but that would be the closest point of getting the lead back for the rest of the match. Rocket League defeated the final form and from that point forward it never really looked back again. The match ended close up being close enough and had lots of stalls, but once Dragon Ball got back its good updates, it was far too late, so no one really noticed. The match would ultimately end up below 1000 votes and contend The Walking Dead vs. Bastion for best match of the contest so far, not that it was a hard title to claim in round 1. Eventually, Celeste vs. Rayman Legends got that. If you look at the prediction percentage and how close this was, it mightve been decided simply by Rocket League being the top option and in extension to that having more brackets. Rocket League dying next round supports that claim. The weird thing about it is that Dragon Ball was best early on where most bracket votes tend to appear, but it mightve gone on for longer than usually because we just simply do not care for either game all too much. Its the best lesson to go for the top option when we care about neither, just like Overwatch vs. Death Stranding and Black Flag vs. Civilization V showed. The hard part is then knowing for sure when we care about neither game. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939537464] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 7 Day 13 Rocket League 51.66% Dragon Ball FighterZ 48.34% Prediction Percentage 61.47% This was a very debated match for the 1 point that its worth. You could make a good case for each of them here and the match and it was close enough to make each pick a fine choice. Rocket League is clearly the bigger game here, but we never cared for sports games and we never cared for racing games. Even though its different, Rocket League is still both of those! We also dont care for fighting games. This contest already showed the most recent Tekken, Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter being complete trash. If we ever did the days are certainly over. Mario Kart and Smash Bros are exceptions to this, but theyre different from their genre and also has well established popular characters in them. People picking Dragon Ball FighterZ were hoping that having such a big franchise name might be enough to give it the win in a debated match. The match was quite exciting for a while. The very early board vote seemed to favor Dragon Ball, but Rocket League had a super small lead up until the freeze where it led by 10 votes. An update later, Rocket League had extended this to only 29 votes, which should make you worry if you expected Rocket League to have the top option bracket votes. True enough, Dragon Ball took the lead 15 minutes into the match, although only by 5 votes. At that point, it seemed like it could run away with it, but Rocket League took the lead back again, though with a lead of only 2 votes. Fighting over who could have the smaller lead, Dragon Ball took the lead by 1 vote an update later, giving us perhaps the most exciting match of the contest so far. Dragon Ball would make a small attempt at taking the match from there, but it struggled a bit. It took some bumpy updates for Dragon Ball to get its lead above 30, and it couldnt keep it. Slowly cutting the lead down again, Rocket League went on to take the lead back and simultaneously show it was also capable of leading with exactly one vote. Then Rocket League would make a better attempt to build its lead, it slowly got up to the same place Dragon Ball was before bursting up to 81, looking like it was done. Dragon Ball had another form and it wasnt even the final one, so in 5 updates that it all won, the lead was cut back down to the 30s. Rocket League would have none of that and spent two updates putting the lead back up in the 70s. Unfortunately, Dragon Ball revealed its final form and in one beastly update threw the lead back into the 30s, but that would be the closest point of getting the lead back for the rest of the match. Rocket League defeated the final form and from that point forward it never really looked back again. The match ended close up being close enough and had lots of stalls, but once Dragon Ball got back its good updates, it was far too late, so no one really noticed. The match would ultimately end up below 1000 votes and contend The Walking Dead vs. Bastion for best match of the contest so far, not that it was a hard title to claim in round 1. Eventually, Celeste vs. Rayman Legends got that. If you look at the prediction percentage and how close this was, it mightve been decided simply by Rocket League being the top option and in extension to that having more brackets. Rocket League dying next round supports that claim. The weird thing about it is that Dragon Ball was best early on where most bracket votes tend to appear, but it mightve gone on for longer than usually because we just simply do not care for either game all too much. Its the best lesson to go for the top option when we care about neither, just like Overwatch vs. Death Stranding and Black Flag vs. Civilization V showed. The hard part is then knowing for sure when we care about neither game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/22/20 9:46:20 AM #135:	I picked Rocket League to win that without much thought simply because it made a bigger impact on release. Dragon Ball FighterZ only seemed to be much of a deal with a relatively small group of people by comparison. It was only a viable choice to win because Rocket League is so not this site's kind of game. Would Rocket League even beat Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2? I mean, Tony Hawk is projected to get ~20% on FFX in 2010, and Rocket League didn't exceed that against Dark Souls by much. Holy heck was this bracket weak. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:939538513] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I picked Rocket League to win that without much thought simply because it made a bigger impact on release. Dragon Ball FighterZ only seemed to be much of a deal with a relatively small group of people by comparison. It was only a viable choice to win because Rocket League is so not this site's kind of game. Would Rocket League even beat Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2? I mean, Tony Hawk is projected to get ~20% on FFX in 2010, and Rocket League didn't exceed that against Dark Souls by much. Holy heck was this bracket weak. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 1:23:57 PM #136:	Round 1 Division 7 Day 13 Yakuza 0 77.39% The Witness 22.61% Prediction Percentage 86.12% Sometimes a blowout is precisely what we need to get excited about a match and this one sure was that. After seeing big company games drop matches to indie games that they werent supposed to, so suddenly there was a bit of fear regarding this match, because Yakuza seems exactly like the type of game that is somewhat big but not cared about for on our site. This is the first time weve ever seen a Yakuza game in the bracket despite it being possible in all but the first games contest, and thats just when we had a bracket that was clearly going for diversity above contest strength. No one actually thought the upset would happen, because The Witness was expected to be way too weak to take advantage of something like that. Indie puzzle games so far have not looked good and The Witness havent been lucky enough to get the Switch release were expecting helped so many other things out. Seriously, indie games are perfect for playing on the go and the Switch is a wonderful platform to play your indies on because of it. We did however underestimate Yakuza 0 by 14% in the oracle, which is without a doubt fueled by the indie fear still going on. Thats a lot. Not a single person went this high. Third place is more than 6% away, fourth place is more than 7% away. Thats despite only one person actually picking The Witness to win and he had it in his bracket too. Its hilarious and it got plenty of attention today despite another match actually being good. We largely expected The Witness to just be that weak with no one really having played it, but Yakuza 0 is actually just decent enough weve later learned. Its from 2017 so we should have seen it coming, but we didnt. It would be hard to find matches it could win in a normal contest, but it might still be worth having there. Its hilarious that despite Yakuza 0 looking great here, we werent ready to give it any credit for this match so all but a single oracle underestimated it next match as well. Thats even though it would go against a pretty controversial game! That says a whole lot about how little chance we gave The Witness. Obviously, it was weak, but we didnt even consider that perhaps it wasnt the worst in the bracket. It ends up being close to the worst in the bracket, but its still funny this match led to one to believe otherwise. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939547610] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 7 Day 13 Yakuza 0 77.39% The Witness 22.61% Prediction Percentage 86.12% Sometimes a blowout is precisely what we need to get excited about a match and this one sure was that. After seeing big company games drop matches to indie games that they werent supposed to, so suddenly there was a bit of fear regarding this match, because Yakuza seems exactly like the type of game that is somewhat big but not cared about for on our site. This is the first time weve ever seen a Yakuza game in the bracket despite it being possible in all but the first games contest, and thats just when we had a bracket that was clearly going for diversity above contest strength. No one actually thought the upset would happen, because The Witness was expected to be way too weak to take advantage of something like that. Indie puzzle games so far have not looked good and The Witness havent been lucky enough to get the Switch release were expecting helped so many other things out. Seriously, indie games are perfect for playing on the go and the Switch is a wonderful platform to play your indies on because of it. We did however underestimate Yakuza 0 by 14% in the oracle, which is without a doubt fueled by the indie fear still going on. Thats a lot. Not a single person went this high. Third place is more than 6% away, fourth place is more than 7% away. Thats despite only one person actually picking The Witness to win and he had it in his bracket too. Its hilarious and it got plenty of attention today despite another match actually being good. We largely expected The Witness to just be that weak with no one really having played it, but Yakuza 0 is actually just decent enough weve later learned. Its from 2017 so we should have seen it coming, but we didnt. It would be hard to find matches it could win in a normal contest, but it might still be worth having there. Its hilarious that despite Yakuza 0 looking great here, we werent ready to give it any credit for this match so all but a single oracle underestimated it next match as well. Thats even though it would go against a pretty controversial game! That says a whole lot about how little chance we gave The Witness. Obviously, it was weak, but we didnt even consider that perhaps it wasnt the worst in the bracket. It ends up being close to the worst in the bracket, but its still funny this match led to one to believe otherwise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/22/20 2:12:58 PM #137:	I think much of the reason Yakuza was underestimated was due to the characters being busts in 2018. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:939549971] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I think much of the reason Yakuza was underestimated was due to the characters being busts in 2018. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 2:57:49 PM #138:	I failed to realize they were in. That's another one for the "to be edited in" list. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939552343] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I failed to realize they were in. That's another one for the "to be edited in" list. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/22/20 6:03:39 PM #139:	Round 1 Division 7 Day 13 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain 72.51% Dead Cells 27.49% Prediction Percentage 87.15% It looked like Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain would have quite the easy path this year. It got what was believed to be a very weak fourpack before running into the exact same game it lost to the previous contest. Back then it was an upset, but no one was giving MGSV any chance this year. There is no bigger shame in the gaming world than what happened to Konami and what happened to one of the best franchises of all time because of it, but not much to do about that, unfortunately. MSGV was certainly getting anti-voted a bit here. Not as much because of the actual game as its just voting against Konami. Despite that, it managed to outdo the boards expectations a little bit. Some probably thought it would be hurt more from all the backlash. Others probably put too much faith in Dead Cells after good showings by indies this round. Dead Cells is released around the time that appears to be the preferred time to be released for indie games, but it didnt do it much favor. It just didnt quite hit the big scenes. Im sure MGSV got a lot of franchise name votes from the forced voting. If Dead Cells couldnt look better than this against MGSV then its playrate is probably very low. Despite Yakuza 0 looking good today, Metal Gear Solid V would still come into round 2 as the unanimous favorite to win and into round 3 as the unanimous favorite to lose, so its not like it made a huge difference that it did slightly better than expected. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939561676] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 7 Day 13 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain 72.51% Dead Cells 27.49% Prediction Percentage 87.15% It looked like Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain would have quite the easy path this year. It got what was believed to be a very weak fourpack before running into the exact same game it lost to the previous contest. Back then it was an upset, but no one was giving MGSV any chance this year. There is no bigger shame in the gaming world than what happened to Konami and what happened to one of the best franchises of all time because of it, but not much to do about that, unfortunately. MSGV was certainly getting anti-voted a bit here. Not as much because of the actual game as its just voting against Konami. Despite that, it managed to outdo the boards expectations a little bit. Some probably thought it would be hurt more from all the backlash. Others probably put too much faith in Dead Cells after good showings by indies this round. Dead Cells is released around the time that appears to be the preferred time to be released for indie games, but it didnt do it much favor. It just didnt quite hit the big scenes. Im sure MGSV got a lot of franchise name votes from the forced voting. If Dead Cells couldnt look better than this against MGSV then its playrate is probably very low. Despite Yakuza 0 looking good today, Metal Gear Solid V would still come into round 2 as the unanimous favorite to win and into round 3 as the unanimous favorite to lose, so its not like it made a huge difference that it did slightly better than expected. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MetalmindStats 05/23/20 3:27:59 AM #140:	ctesjbuvf posted... Its hilarious that despite Yakuza 0 looking great here, we werent ready to give it any credit for this match so all but a single oracle underestimated it next match as well. Seven Oracles overestimated Yakuza 0 in that next match, including you yourself. That being said, I think I'd agree with LMS that the characters' 2018 results contributed heavily - specifically that 2-seed Kazuma didn't come close to beating 15-seed Bomberman, while Goro got blown out by Master Chief of all characters. Lost in all that shuffle was Kazuma actually having some okay strength by fodder standards (~32% on Kefka through Bomberman) despite having a name only Yakuza players recognized and an utterly generic design. I correctly figured that it wasn't a stretch for the series' beloved mainstream breakout game to be stronger still rather than the turbofodder most expected, and that its divisive, generically-titled indie puzzler opponent was a candidate for weakest game in the bracket. --- "I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people who do." azuarc won the 2020 Guru Contest because he avoided picking rashly. <cite>MetalmindStats posted [p:939581998] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite> <quote>Its hilarious that despite Yakuza 0 looking great here, we werent ready to give it any credit for this match so all but a single oracle underestimated it next match as well.</quote>Seven Oracles overestimated Yakuza 0 in that next match, including you yourself. That being said, I think I'd agree with LMS that the characters' 2018 results contributed heavily - specifically that 2-seed Kazuma didn't come close to beating 15-seed Bomberman, while Goro got blown out by Master Chief of all characters. Lost in all that shuffle was Kazuma actually having some okay strength by fodder standards (~32% on Kefka through Bomberman) despite having a name only Yakuza players recognized and an utterly generic design. I correctly figured that it wasn't a stretch for the series' beloved mainstream breakout game to be stronger still rather than the turbofodder most expected, and that its divisive, generically-titled indie puzzler opponent was a candidate for weakest game in the bracket. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/23/20 5:04:11 AM #141:	So it seems. That's on the line of being embarassing, though not additionally for being one of them, just that I missed the other five looking there. That will definitely be edited in as well. And yes, 2018 characters is a good reason, I had forgotten they were in because I know nothing about the series. I mean, I remember there being a Kazuma, but I don't know enough characters that it stuck with me he was from Yazuka. But I'll fix it in the wiki. Will probably do the small list of changes to the write-ups after round 1 is done, which I hope to have and expect to be done by the end of the weekend. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939583505] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>So it seems. That's on the line of being embarassing, though not additionally for being one of them, just that I missed the other five looking there. That will definitely be edited in as well. And yes, 2018 characters is a good reason, I had forgotten they were in because I know nothing about the series. I mean, I remember there being a Kazuma, but I don't know enough characters that it stuck with me he was from Yazuka. But I'll fix it in the wiki. Will probably do the small list of changes to the write-ups after round 1 is done, which I hope to have and expect to be done by the end of the weekend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/23/20 6:50:16 AM #142:	Whenever I hear about the Yakuza I immediately think of Kill Bill. Which itself reminds me of Metal Gear quite a bit. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:939585018] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Whenever I hear about the Yakuza I immediately think of Kill Bill. Which itself reminds me of Metal Gear quite a bit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/23/20 7:08:54 PM #143:	Round 1 Division 7 Day 14 Batman: Arkham City 54.46% Xenoblade Chronicles 2 45.54% Prediction Percentage 71.52% Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is one of the most unfortunate games in the bracket and just like the others its a Nintendo game. As underseeded as it is, it failed to get a winnable match despite it being clearly being in the upper half of games in the bracket. Its low seed is probably a sign of how the first one is so extremely favored. People liked 2 but not to the same extend as the first one. Ive heard the DLC makes it closer, but its still easily the first. I havent gotten around to playing the second myself yet and Ill be playing XenoblaDE on Switch soon before. That couldve perhaps boosted the second one a bit as well. Its pretty close here already and its just another point for 2017. Xenoblade 2 got really close here despite having all odds against it. A few people had it in their brackets, but Im guessing most just thought Batman wouldnt be as good as it seemed to be. Most people expected Batman to go above 60% here and it ended below 55%. I dont think many people thought the performance was due to Batman being bad though. Xenoblade had looked incredible earlier and most things Nintendo had looked really good overall, Switch games in particular. Almost everyone knew right away that this was Xenoblade 2 being legit, although its still ways off of the first one. Batman proved its strength today. It should not be too surprising. They havent really been relevant for a while, but its Batman of course its going to hold up to some extent. Although this match did make people feel a little bit uneasy about picking Batman to round 3 when the BioShock franchise has shown itself to have a really high ceiling in the past. While it proved its strength, getting below expectations in percentage didnt make that apparent right away and confirmation about that only came later. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939609829] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 7 Day 14 Batman: Arkham City 54.46% Xenoblade Chronicles 2 45.54% Prediction Percentage 71.52% Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is one of the most unfortunate games in the bracket and just like the others its a Nintendo game. As underseeded as it is, it failed to get a winnable match despite it being clearly being in the upper half of games in the bracket. Its low seed is probably a sign of how the first one is so extremely favored. People liked 2 but not to the same extend as the first one. Ive heard the DLC makes it closer, but its still easily the first. I havent gotten around to playing the second myself yet and Ill be playing XenoblaDE on Switch soon before. That couldve perhaps boosted the second one a bit as well. Its pretty close here already and its just another point for 2017. Xenoblade 2 got really close here despite having all odds against it. A few people had it in their brackets, but Im guessing most just thought Batman wouldnt be as good as it seemed to be. Most people expected Batman to go above 60% here and it ended below 55%. I dont think many people thought the performance was due to Batman being bad though. Xenoblade had looked incredible earlier and most things Nintendo had looked really good overall, Switch games in particular. Almost everyone knew right away that this was Xenoblade 2 being legit, although its still ways off of the first one. Batman proved its strength today. It should not be too surprising. They havent really been relevant for a while, but its Batman of course its going to hold up to some extent. Although this match did make people feel a little bit uneasy about picking Batman to round 3 when the BioShock franchise has shown itself to have a really high ceiling in the past. While it proved its strength, getting below expectations in percentage didnt make that apparent right away and confirmation about that only came later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/24/20 9:42:34 AM #144:	Round 1 Division 7 Day 14 BioShock Infinite 67.67% Terraria 32.33% Prediction Percentage 75.41% If Batman had you worried about the next round because it got close to Xenoblade 2, then this match should remove any worries you had. Terraria is fine, but its not exactly the type of game that would ever do well here. Furthermore, at this point we all agreed that indie games from the latter half of the decade were the ones to fear and Terraria is from the early part of it. BioShock looks bad here despite getting the doubling. Of course, none of the above stopped the board from overestimating how close Terraria could get to BioShock, even though almost all of us agreed it couldnt pull off the win. Expectations for BioShock Infinite were also very low. That series is way past its prime and we already saw Infinite in action last time where it lost in round 1 to peak strength Fallout: New Vegas. It was a step behind Arkham City then and with more reason to drop. The original BioShock could pull it off, but that one is on another level. You have to give BioShock some credit for managing to hit the sweet spot where it surprised us positively but still looked bad. Its probably the forced voting at work again. It made a lot of round 1 matches less close than they would be otherse. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939633852] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 7 Day 14 BioShock Infinite 67.67% Terraria 32.33% Prediction Percentage 75.41% If Batman had you worried about the next round because it got close to Xenoblade 2, then this match should remove any worries you had. Terraria is fine, but its not exactly the type of game that would ever do well here. Furthermore, at this point we all agreed that indie games from the latter half of the decade were the ones to fear and Terraria is from the early part of it. BioShock looks bad here despite getting the doubling. Of course, none of the above stopped the board from overestimating how close Terraria could get to BioShock, even though almost all of us agreed it couldnt pull off the win. Expectations for BioShock Infinite were also very low. That series is way past its prime and we already saw Infinite in action last time where it lost in round 1 to peak strength Fallout: New Vegas. It was a step behind Arkham City then and with more reason to drop. The original BioShock could pull it off, but that one is on another level. You have to give BioShock some credit for managing to hit the sweet spot where it surprised us positively but still looked bad. Its probably the forced voting at work again. It made a lot of round 1 matches less close than they would be otherse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PostContestUlti 05/24/20 9:52:05 AM #145:	Loving your writeups. Super happy to have you as a partner of sorts! --- https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page <cite>PostContestUlti posted [p:939634117] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Loving your writeups. Super happy to have you as a partner of sorts! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/24/20 10:33:38 AM #146:	Round 1 Division 7 Day 14 Diablo III 69.01% Zero Escape: Virtues Last Reward 30.99% Prediction Percentage 86.55% Even with how much Blizzard is dislikes these days, Diablo III still managed to almost break 70%. Thats how bad Virtues Last Reward is. It didnt surprise anyone either. Its a game were solely putting in there because its our own niche thing. Same thing as 999 back in Best Game Ever III. On board 8, it just got second place in a best 3DS game contest. In a contest anywhere else, its just happy to be there. Visual novels are never going to be bigger than really obscure in these things most likely. Ill also defend Diablo III a bit. Its a good game honestly. Its not as good as the second one at all, but thats high bar and it was just nice to be back after so many years. I dont think its what Blizzard is likes for and I dont think its getting anti-voted as badly as some of the other games are. I mean, we on board 8 did of course. This match had one of the most insane board votes of the whole contest because its one of our favorite games against something we dont like. Diablo was losing a minute into the match and was ahead by only 2 votes two minutes into the match. Thats insane for something that ended up getting nearly 70%! --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939635225] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 7 Day 14 Diablo III 69.01% Zero Escape: Virtues Last Reward 30.99% Prediction Percentage 86.55% Even with how much Blizzard is dislikes these days, Diablo III still managed to almost break 70%. Thats how bad Virtues Last Reward is. It didnt surprise anyone either. Its a game were solely putting in there because its our own niche thing. Same thing as 999 back in Best Game Ever III. On board 8, it just got second place in a best 3DS game contest. In a contest anywhere else, its just happy to be there. Visual novels are never going to be bigger than really obscure in these things most likely. Ill also defend Diablo III a bit. Its a good game honestly. Its not as good as the second one at all, but thats high bar and it was just nice to be back after so many years. I dont think its what Blizzard is likes for and I dont think its getting anti-voted as badly as some of the other games are. I mean, we on board 8 did of course. This match had one of the most insane board votes of the whole contest because its one of our favorite games against something we dont like. Diablo was losing a minute into the match and was ahead by only 2 votes two minutes into the match. Thats insane for something that ended up getting nearly 70%! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/24/20 11:10:49 AM #147:	Round 1 Division 7 Day 14 The Last of Us 81.85% Crusader Kings II 18.15% Prediction Percentage 94.41% The Last of Us was a very hot upset pick to win the division pre-contest. No other upset pick was taken by as many in round 4 and the division 4 favorite was taken by only 2 more. The reason for this was that The Last of Us looked straight up better than Dark Souls in 2015. Dark Souls is considered very influential, but The Last of Us also got a lot of awards and prestige back when it came out. Dark Souls looks pretty good right off the bad, so The Last of Us had something to live up. The popular opinion is that it did not manage to do that. Its also what ended up being true. Crusader Kings II was brought up when people considered what the weakest game in the bracket might be. Its an eight year old PC exclusive strategy game that wasnt all too popular. It basically has nothing going on for it. Its the type of game that we absolutely dont care about here. Its not even a niche thing, we just straight up dont care. That said, you could with good reason give The Last of Us the benefit of the doubt today. It doesnt really matter how much you get above 80%. Up there its way too uncertain. The Last of Us also got an opponent that it has less overlap with than Dark Souls did. It wasnt out of the question just yet. Ironically, at this point we thought it was a bad thing The Last of Us 2 had not come out yet and perhaps people were annoyed about the delay. Thats nothing compared to what was to come. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939636333] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Round 1 Division 7 Day 14 The Last of Us 81.85% Crusader Kings II 18.15% Prediction Percentage 94.41% The Last of Us was a very hot upset pick to win the division pre-contest. No other upset pick was taken by as many in round 4 and the division 4 favorite was taken by only 2 more. The reason for this was that The Last of Us looked straight up better than Dark Souls in 2015. Dark Souls is considered very influential, but The Last of Us also got a lot of awards and prestige back when it came out. Dark Souls looks pretty good right off the bad, so The Last of Us had something to live up. The popular opinion is that it did not manage to do that. Its also what ended up being true. Crusader Kings II was brought up when people considered what the weakest game in the bracket might be. Its an eight year old PC exclusive strategy game that wasnt all too popular. It basically has nothing going on for it. Its the type of game that we absolutely dont care about here. Its not even a niche thing, we just straight up dont care. That said, you could with good reason give The Last of Us the benefit of the doubt today. It doesnt really matter how much you get above 80%. Up there its way too uncertain. The Last of Us also got an opponent that it has less overlap with than Dark Souls did. It wasnt out of the question just yet. Ironically, at this point we thought it was a bad thing The Last of Us 2 had not come out yet and perhaps people were annoyed about the delay. Thats nothing compared to what was to come. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/24/20 12:30:24 PM #148:	I don't know if you can really say TLOU looked straight-up better in 2015. It's 40% on Kingdom Hearts II vs. 30% on Link to the Past. Fairly comparable at worst. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:939639135] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>I don't know if you can really say TLOU looked straight-up better in 2015. It's 40% on Kingdom Hearts II vs. 30% on Link to the Past. Fairly comparable at worst. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/24/20 1:09:01 PM #149:	Well, in the x-stats it is. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939640623] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Well, in the x-stats it is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 05/24/20 1:22:44 PM #150:	Count me as one of those sceptical of whether x-stats mean anything, but fair enough. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:939641139] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Count me as one of those sceptical of whether x-stats mean anything, but fair enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 05/24/20 4:52:07 PM #151:	Oh I mean, there's good reason to! But I saw it mentioned by quite a few people as the reason they went with The Last of Us there. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:939649123] in ~~ Ctes' P... [t:78685615]...</cite> <quote>Oh I mean, there's good reason to! But I saw it mentioned by quite a few people as the reason they went with The Last of Us there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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