Board 8 > * GotD 2020 Guru Contest Stats & Discussion - Part One *

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Heropon_Riki
04/18/20 10:41:26 PM
#357:


ctesjbuvf posted...
And so it seems I did get out of round 2.

Ready to die with Three Houses together with I assume quite a few people.

The seeding is really unfortunate for me. Three Houses is my third favorite game on the list besides Xenoblade Chronicles and Breath of the Wild, so it's a shame I have to vote against it so early.

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HaRRicH
04/18/20 11:11:39 PM
#358:


I really didn't think I had a rare bracket outside of Round One! I suppose my Xenoblade pick for a division finalist is keeping me alive...feeling alright there but pretty mixed on my other upsets at this point.

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gamer man
04/18/20 11:27:41 PM
#359:


LeonhartFour posted...
it mostly depends on how similar your bracket is to others

if you have a rare bracket layout then you can survive for a long time even with a bad score

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SuperNiceDog
04/19/20 12:01:12 AM
#360:


gamer man posted...
Well that explains the legend supernicedog

hahaha yeeeeeee! My whole bracket is all in on Persona 5 over Witcher at this point, so I'll survive a long time

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azuarc
04/19/20 3:02:14 AM
#361:


Top 10 in survival but bottom 10 in points is always a fun goal.

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chocoboslayer
04/19/20 1:05:16 PM
#362:


azuarc posted...
Top 10 in survival but bottom 10 in points is always a fun goal.
i've pretty much got this on lock each contest

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NewerShadow
04/19/20 9:52:27 PM
#363:


Division 2 eliminations: (DQ11 win)

Who eliminates who:
  • BK_Sheikah00 by LordoftheMorons
  • BlAcK TuRtLe by LadyVyxx, Paratroopa1, gamer man
  • Camden by hylianknight3
  • captaincanadian by COVlD-19
  • DomaDragoon by a lot
  • foolmoron by COVlD-19
  • GildedFool by The Mana Sword
  • Keltiq by fpce666
  • Lightning Strikes by MetalmindStats
  • linid0t by Paratroopa1, gamer man
  • LordOfDabu by Seanchan, fpce666
  • OrangeCrush980 by AxemRedRanger
  • princeton_boy by puseecat692
  • SeabassDebeste by Hbthebattle, Keltiq, azuarc, JONALEON1, fpce666
  • Z1mZum by davidponte
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Advokaiser
04/19/20 9:58:16 PM
#364:


Man, COVID-19 just won't give us a break, even in quarantine!

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SuperNiceDog
04/19/20 10:11:11 PM
#365:


Advokaiser posted...
Man, COVID-19 just won't give us a break, even in quarantine!

he's a monster

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Polycosm
04/19/20 10:52:39 PM
#366:


Advokaiser posted...
Man, COVID-19 just won't give us a break, even in quarantine!
The casualty rate is gonna get real bad if Dark Souls goes deep; there aren't a lot of risks left in that bracket.

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azuarc
04/20/20 1:25:03 AM
#367:


So I just spent the last couple hours doing this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qK4NOzPxYNNsuGw10Esrc-KKTGQd6S5kbRywdWE_2oQ/edit#gid=1775137827

The spreadsheet above is supposed to simulate the tournament as though a chosen user is correct for the rest of the bracket. It gives the scores of all the users accordingly. Obviously if you enter a user, and they are not listed first on their own list, they are eliminated.

Please let me know if there are errors. I've never shared a spreadsheet before and locked all but a small part of it down, and I'm sure I made some clerical errors since I manually entered all that data. (Anyone who participates in VGMC will tell you how reliable my data entry skills are.)

But anyway, I hope this is an interesting tool for those of you wondering how close you are to elimination. It does not, sadly, determine anything preemptively. I'm not trying to take NewerShadow's job.

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Polycosm
04/20/20 1:57:56 AM
#368:


azuarc posted...
So I just spent the last couple hours doing this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qK4NOzPxYNNsuGw10Esrc-KKTGQd6S5kbRywdWE_2oQ/edit#gid=1775137827

Dude, this is an awesome tool.

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azuarc
04/20/20 7:44:10 AM
#369:


azuarc posted...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qK4NOzPxYNNsuGw10Esrc-KKTGQd6S5kbRywdWE_2oQ/edit#gid=1775137827

The spreadsheet above is supposed to simulate the tournament as though a chosen user is correct for the rest of the bracket. It gives the scores of all the users accordingly. Obviously if you enter a user, and they are not listed first on their own list, they are eliminated.

Please let me know if there are errors. I've never shared a spreadsheet before and locked all but a small part of it down, and I'm sure I made some clerical errors since I manually entered all that data. (Anyone who participates in VGMC will tell you how reliable my data entry skills are.)

Woke up this morning inspired to add on to this. Now you can also pick specific results for specific matches. I didn't really do it the "right" way, as someone who once studied computer science, and exotic results aren't available, but hopefully I didn't screw anything up.

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davidponte
04/20/20 8:59:29 AM
#370:


Alright, I've inputted various results for the remaining matches, with the guaranteed winners staying constant and then going back and forth on all of the debated matches to see if it makes a difference.

On the top of the bracket, I see no way in which @MetalmindStats doesn't win at this point. I am very likely going to come in second or tied for second. This assumes no major upsets like Zelda losing, and also assumes that Witcher beats Skyrim.

Oddly enough, nothing else really matters, again, barring some theoretical upsets. The Bloodborne/RE2 match doesn't change things, regardless if the winner then wins the division. Xenoblade/Fire Emblem also doesn't matter. Even GTA/Xenoblade doesn't affect the top.

The only matches that DO matter are GTA/P4G and ME2/Bloodborne/RE2. If P4G and/or ME2 win those matches, then someone else wins other than @MetalmindStats or myself, and neither of us are in second.

The only way I come in first, given all those other results, is if TLOU beats Dark Souls, which isn't happening. So I'm essentially playing for second at this point.

Please correct me if I'm wrong! Again, I didn't take into account the upset that definitely won't happen, and only looked at the contested matches.

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davidponte
04/20/20 9:06:11 AM
#371:


Forgot to add: The HGSS/NieR match also matters. If Pokemon wins and everything else is constant, azuarc goes into second and I fall to 3rd. If Pokemon wins then Bloodborne wins its division, we find the third scenario where neither MetalmindStats or myself wins.

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handsomeboy2012
04/20/20 9:16:20 AM
#372:


Well this is more confirmation that I have zero chance
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squexa
04/20/20 9:54:30 AM
#373:


davidponte posted...
Alright, I've inputted various results for the remaining matches, with the guaranteed winners staying constant and then going back and forth on all of the debated matches to see if it makes a difference.

On the top of the bracket, I see no way in which @MetalmindStats doesn't win at this point. I am very likely going to come in second or tied for second. This assumes no major upsets like Zelda losing, and also assumes that Witcher beats Skyrim.

Oddly enough, nothing else really matters, again, barring some theoretical upsets. The Bloodborne/RE2 match doesn't change things, regardless if the winner then wins the division. Xenoblade/Fire Emblem also doesn't matter. Even GTA/Xenoblade doesn't affect the top.

The only matches that DO matter are GTA/P4G and ME2/Bloodborne/RE2. If P4G and/or ME2 win those matches, then someone else wins other than @MetalmindStats or myself, and neither of us are in second.

The only way I come in first, given all those other results, is if TLOU beats Dark Souls, which isn't happening. So I'm essentially playing for second at this point.

Please correct me if I'm wrong! Again, I didn't take into account the upset that definitely won't happen, and only looked at the contested matches.

Eh, I'd say Smash/Odyssey and Dark Souls/Skyrim are definitely contested matches right now and not complete moonshot upsets.

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davidponte
04/20/20 10:01:07 AM
#374:


squexa posted...
Eh, I'd say Smash/Odyssey and Dark Souls/Skyrim are definitely contested matches right now and not complete moonshot upsets.

Smash/Odyssey doesn't change too much other than gravy becoming the winner, metalmind falling to 2nd, azuarc going to 3rd, and me falling to 4th, so that one also doesn't shake things up too much other than the overall winner (which is a big deal, I'll give you that). This also assumes that it goes on to beat the Div 4 winner. That's also probably the more likely of your two mentioned upsets.

Dark Souls > Skyrim would massively change things, though.

Again, assuming that result happens and we don't have the GTA/P4G or ME2 match go the other way.

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azuarc
04/20/20 10:34:40 AM
#375:


Keep in mind, if you're looking at the sheet, that you can leave the setting on contested matches to "unspecified" and then float between different user profiles.

Also, if you want to use the cookie, plug in Master Moltar.

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squexa
04/20/20 10:50:34 AM
#376:


azuarc posted...
So I just spent the last couple hours doing this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qK4NOzPxYNNsuGw10Esrc-KKTGQd6S5kbRywdWE_2oQ/edit#gid=1775137827

The spreadsheet above is supposed to simulate the tournament as though a chosen user is correct for the rest of the bracket. It gives the scores of all the users accordingly. Obviously if you enter a user, and they are not listed first on their own list, they are eliminated.

Please let me know if there are errors. I've never shared a spreadsheet before and locked all but a small part of it down, and I'm sure I made some clerical errors since I manually entered all that data. (Anyone who participates in VGMC will tell you how reliable my data entry skills are.)

But anyway, I hope this is an interesting tool for those of you wondering how close you are to elimination. It does not, sadly, determine anything preemptively. I'm not trying to take NewerShadow's job.

Thanks for the spreadsheet! Ugh I might get eliminated by Ngamer soon.

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Safer_777
04/20/20 11:41:39 AM
#377:


So Black Turtle eliminates me? I guess I should feel proud or something.

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TsunamiXXVIII
04/20/20 2:07:09 PM
#378:


SuperNiceDog posted...
thanks, I don't know how I'm still alive either

I know how I'm still alive...I just don't know why.

Actually, that's not true. I just checked the other three brackets with SMG2 in the final, and there are enough other differences in those brackets that the picks I actually believe in would be enough to potentially get me ahead of them if my bracket looked more like I wanted it to. Still have no f***ing idea why I picked Arkham City over The Last of Us, though, a mistake compounded by picking it again over Dark Souls (which would of course be wrong, but that's just a garden-variety wrong pick, not a "wait, I picked what?" pick).

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transience
04/20/20 2:58:09 PM
#379:


I spent some time with azuarc's tool (great job!) and it seems like about 2/3rds of brackets are eliminated if you make some really safe assumptions about the bracket.

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charmander6000
04/20/20 3:23:03 PM
#380:


Makes sense, having a long lasting bracket doesn't mean you have a good bracket, especially when later round picks are worth so much.

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azuarc
04/20/20 3:52:00 PM
#381:


transience posted...
I spent some time with azuarc's tool (great job!) and it seems like about 2/3rds of brackets are eliminated if you make some really safe assumptions about the bracket.

Thank you.

And if you reduce bracket permutations to only the five most contested matches remaining -- and I suspect there aren't actually more than that -- that only leaves 32 arrangements for the bracket to unfold. Some of those probably belong to the same people, so I suspect the number of theoretical winners from this point forward is probably closer to 20. Everyone else is just hanging on due to some arcane combination of implausible results, including perhaps something absurd like BotW losing to FFXV to clear the way for a GTA5 victory.

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Bossman_Coolguy
04/20/20 3:52:21 PM
#382:


ah crap rallyfaqs means smash easily beats super mario

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Advokaiser
04/20/20 4:39:15 PM
#383:


So basically I need TLOU > Dark Souls, and Skyrim > Witcher, to win.

I mean, there's a possibility, but unlikeliness overrides me.

Edit: Actually, the only one I need is Skyrim > Witcher. Wow.

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MetalmindStats
04/20/20 7:39:39 PM
#384:


Great work on your sheet, azuarc! (And davidponte with your distillation of likely scenarios that wouldn't have been massive upsets pre-contest.)

I didn't expect to somehow be the most likely Guru winner from where we're standing right now, but I guess we'll see if that can last. I'm wary about a bunch of these upcoming matches, especially Dark Souls v Skyrim.

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HaRRicH
04/20/20 8:24:33 PM
#385:


Of course you're a favorite to win. You were a Metal Man.

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azuarc
04/20/20 10:08:48 PM
#386:


With a name like MetalmindStats, clearly he keeps all the records of contest results in his feruchemical rings.

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Ngamer64
04/21/20 1:15:43 AM
#387:


Ouch, rough day to be a fool!

squexa posted...
Thanks for the spreadsheet! Ugh I might get eliminated by Ngamer soon.
It will be an honor!


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Ngamer64
04/21/20 1:50:28 AM
#388:


After looking it over in the tool (which is wonderful BTW!), I'm actually shocked what a strong position I'm still in. Of course I need Witcher 3 > Dark Souls > Skyrim, but if that works out for me I can absorb both GTA5 > Persona 4 AND my Portal 2 to win the division pick not working out. Alternatively, if Portal does get there, I've got enough of a cushion that I wouldn't need Xeno to get out of its division.

Pretty sweet!


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SuperNiceDog
04/21/20 4:13:30 AM
#389:


Guru update for Day 22(?):





I'm moving on up, 94th now


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SuperNiceDog
04/21/20 4:14:11 AM
#390:


so @MetalmindStats is the likeliest winner from here on out?

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ctesjbuvf
04/21/20 4:33:28 AM
#391:


I think I consider azuarc himself the most likely, then LightningStrikes. They both have Witcher > Skyrim. azuarc wins if just one of Xenoblade > GTAV and HGSS > NieR happens (assuming cookie cutter for the rest) while LightningStrikes wins if both of those two are the other way around, still going cookie cutter the rest of the way.

MetalmindStats has to hope for RE2 > ME2 and I find it more likely ME2 wins that one. Though should it happen, he wins regardless of the above two matches. That's assuming nothing else gets out of division 4. If HGSS > NieR happens, he needs GTAV > P4G even if Xenoblade wins the division to not lose to... azuarc again. Yeah, I think I like azuarc's chances the most.

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DoomTheGyarados
04/21/20 4:40:07 AM
#392:


RE2 has to survive this match first!

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ctesjbuvf
04/21/20 4:50:34 AM
#393:


True. If that happens, MetalmindStats needs GTAV > P4G and BB > ME2 plus one of GTAV > Xenoblade and NieR > HGSS to beat azuarc. azuarc wins in most other likely cases here, but if GTAV wins the division, BB doesn't and NieR beats Pokemon, LightningStrikes is on top again.

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GildedFool
04/21/20 5:58:36 AM
#394:


Ngamer64 posted...
Ouch, rough day to be a fool!

It will be an honor!
...and yet!

The tide may still be held at bay.

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_SecretSquirrel
04/21/20 6:18:40 AM
#395:


Ringworm
bwburke94
Gall
linkhatesganon
captaincanadian
Paratroopa1
gamer man
SeabassDebeste
Big Bob
Bartzyx
Seginustemple
WiggumFan267
Tirofog
LordoftheMorons
foolmoron
Haste2

Here are the Sweet 16 that went for blood, but there are three bolded names that may end up hitting the jackpot here in the division finals.

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tennisboy213
04/21/20 6:23:09 AM
#396:


I had BB winning this match before switching to RE2 > FE:A
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Ringworm
04/21/20 6:34:10 AM
#397:


_SecretSquirrel posted...
Ringworm
bwburke94
Gall
linkhatesganon
captaincanadian
Paratroopa1
gamer man
SeabassDebeste
Big Bob
Bartzyx
Seginustemple
WiggumFan267
Tirofog
LordoftheMorons
foolmoron
Haste2

Here are the Sweet 16 that went for blood, but there are three bolded names that may end up hitting the jackpot here in the division finals.
Kinda regretting having ME2>BB as the division final right now, but hopefully that's still 4 pts better off than most.

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Lightning Strikes
04/21/20 7:20:56 AM
#398:


So I can win the guru, if GTA can win a clutch match.

How poetic. Either way I should at least get a nice placement and I have the best shot since I was robbed 12 years ago.

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AxemRedRanger
04/21/20 7:27:37 AM
#399:


What happened 12 years ago?

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davidponte
04/21/20 7:28:58 AM
#400:


Unspeakable horrors

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Ringworm
04/21/20 8:32:04 AM
#401:


Ringworm posted...
Kinda regretting having ME2>BB as the division final right now, but hopefully that's still 4 pts better off than most.
Going to need to rely on more rally attempts at this rate to even get BB to win this round, RE2 has it at this rate.

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Lightning Strikes
04/21/20 9:37:05 AM
#402:


AxemRedRanger posted...
What happened 12 years ago?

I looked all set to win the guru after a string of correct Kirby picks and a round 3 Mewtwo pick that was the biggest surprise of the contest, I just needed Vincent to come second in the quarterfinals ahead of Crono, which would be a ticket to the finals for whoever won as the following semifinal was a Nintendo SFF-fest with Link, Mario, and Samus (wait a minute...). This was of course following on from Vincent getting effectively the same result on Crono the year before.

So the match happens, its tight between Vincent and Crono but by the end of it Crono looks spent, Vincent is 200 votes ahead with 50 minutes to go, it is effectively all over. Then Crono starts getting massive updates out of nowhere, significantly better than Link was getting at the same time, and worth over 60% on Samus despite the fact that she was easily winning the match. There were I believe no known new rallies to explain this. Crono takes second place with five minutes left in the match and gets through to the semifinals then finals, eliminating me. It was extremely suspicious, and even Cronos supporters basically admitted it was unlikely to be legit - CT had a history in this regard at this time. We also never got a statement on the legitimacy of this result.

The one bit of solace was Snake coming in second in the finals as I had Cloud - but if Vincent had been there it is possible that Cloud would have come in second place as he only needed 1.4% and Im sure hed do better with Vincent there than Crono - in fact I used that logic when making my bracket!

Basically there were blatant CT shenanigans that killed my only legit shot at the guru... until now!

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AxemRedRanger
04/21/20 10:43:36 AM
#403:


So a sudden fishy final hour crono "rally" ruined your chances huh. Yeah, that would suck.

That it happened to a guy named Lightning Strikes is kind of funny though.

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Lightning Strikes
04/21/20 10:50:30 AM
#404:


There is a distinct possibility of me being scuppered by a Tetsuya Takahashi game with a last minute "rally" if Xenoblade does that to GTA haha. Lightning would strike twice.

Nah but I think azuarc will take it as Xenoblade just looks too good. I'm fairly bullish on GTAV's strength based on everything we've seen but Xenoblade has looked fantastic so far. I'll still be voting for it since it's one of my games of the decade too!

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scaryice
04/21/20 11:14:39 AM
#405:


There's been so many weird Chrono Trigger results over the years, makes me wonder if there's just one dude who's been stuffing for it constantly over the last 20 years.

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gamer man
04/21/20 11:31:16 AM
#406:


_SecretSquirrel posted...
Ringworm
bwburke94
Gall
linkhatesganon
captaincanadian
Paratroopa1
gamer man
SeabassDebeste
Big Bob
Bartzyx
Seginustemple
WiggumFan267
Tirofog
LordoftheMorons
foolmoron
Haste2

Here are the Sweet 16 that went for blood, but there are three bolded names that may end up hitting the jackpot here in the division finals.

Cmon BB
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