Board 8 > what is the best first level in a game?

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MoogleKupo141
12/31/19 3:55:25 PM
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(for games that have "levels")

just thinking about how hard the music from MMX's intro stage is and it made me think about first levels in general

Bob-omb Battlefield comes to mind as a strong candidate.
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Murphiroth
12/31/19 3:57:10 PM
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Metal Gear Rising and Bayonetta 2 are up there for me.

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Leonhart4
12/31/19 3:57:41 PM
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GOGZero
12/31/19 4:14:43 PM
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Strider (Arcade/Genesis)

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ShadowYosuke
12/31/19 4:15:44 PM
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Super Mario Bros.
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HeroDelTiempo17
12/31/19 4:20:03 PM
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Came in to say Boletaria Castle/1-1 in Demons' Souls but thinking about it, that game has a tutorial level first. Damn.

MMX and X2 are good. Deku Tree in OoT I feel gets a lot of hate but I think it's very cool for an intro dungeon.

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tazzyboyishere
12/31/19 4:23:22 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Kingdom Hearts II


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KingButz
12/31/19 4:25:20 PM
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Deus Ex had a pretty great first level
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NBIceman
12/31/19 4:30:23 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Kingdom Hearts II
He said best, not worst.

Destiny Islands in KH1, on the other hand, would be a great answer.

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Leonhart4
12/31/19 4:37:02 PM
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Mega Mana
12/31/19 4:37:50 PM
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Came in to say MMX

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banananor
12/31/19 4:42:35 PM
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Sm64 is a perfect introduction to 3d gaming

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RyoCaliente
12/31/19 6:24:33 PM
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Mega Man Zero 2, if only for the music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnPmafeR3xE

I'd also put pretty much every Half-Life game in this category.

KingButz posted...
Deus Ex had a pretty great first level

In my opinion, it's a little too unforgiving. I can appreciate the freedom you get, but especially if you play it nowadays, it's kinda jarring how it's just like "deal with it". I don't remember if Deus Ex had a tutorial to let you get used to the controls, but I remember dying often and not knowing what to do at all when I first played it.

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greengravy294
12/31/19 6:46:48 PM
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Epyo
12/31/19 6:58:42 PM
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tony hawk 3 foundry

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KCF0107
12/31/19 7:22:07 PM
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I honestly couldn't tell you, but God of War's Aegean Sea is up there.

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ZaziGuado
12/31/19 7:29:43 PM
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The Lion King Grasslands or whatever the first level is called.

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NBIceman
12/31/19 7:33:33 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Destiny Islands is lame
I'll not stand for this slander. DI is the perfect tutorial level.

  • Lets you practice battling as much or as little as you want and allows you to learn about things like Tech points and Revenge Value in a controlled, no-stakes environment.
  • Gives you the option of taking on some marginally harder challenges that require more skill but not perfect execution, with rewards that are useful enough that it feels worthwhile but not so glorious that they're gamebreaking for those that get them or punishing to those that don't.
  • Encourages exploration early on by hiding the Protect Chain in that little nook for clever enough to figure out how to get it. Again, nice to have, but not super powerful.
  • Sets up the central friendship between Sora and his buddies, and it feels natural and believable even in its limited time. You even get to compete against Riku in a couple different methods if you like, where he's considerably tougher than anything else on the island but not unbeatable.
  • Quickly develops the sense of adventure and air of mystery that so defines the game.
  • Short and sweet - if you know what you're doing you can get through it in minutes if you like, and even if you don't know what you're doing it doesn't take long at all.
  • Has an incredibly pleasant soundtrack that captures the peaceful nature of the world while still being lively and fun.
Twilight Town in KH2 does some of that, but it's all just worse. It takes way longer no matter how familiar you are with it, a lot of it feels like tedious busy work, the music is somber and forlorn and sounds like it's heralding the end of an adventure rather than the beginning, you really have no idea what's going on for most of it, the world is bigger but there's less exploration and agency so it kind of feels wasted, etc.

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BK_Sheikah00
12/31/19 7:33:39 PM
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Kingdom Hearts 3

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LordoftheMorons
12/31/19 7:36:10 PM
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Def siding with Leon on this KH argument!

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Xiahou Shake
12/31/19 7:42:58 PM
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Twilight Town >>> Destiny Islands

The magic of not knowing wtf is going on is a bit lost beyond the first play, but the way it slowly transitions your character from KH1 mechanics (baton) to somewhere in between (keyblade) to actual KH2 combat (the Axel fight) and then gives you Sora at the end of it all is a true thing of beauty. The only game I can think of that even remotely compares to this style of introduction for core systems is Astral Chain. (Not to say either of these is the answer to the topic, aka the best, but they're unique as all hell.)

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NBIceman
12/31/19 7:50:54 PM
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Not knowing what's going on sucks, because all you're left with then is this random kid doing odd jobs around town while intermittently having confrontations with characters from CoM. It's frustrating - I hit a wall so quickly where I was like "just get to Sora already for crying out loud."

And then in all subsequent playthroughs when you do know what's going on, those problems still remain, because the rest of the game is so fun that the prologue ends up feeling like even more of a chore than before.

I legit never realized there were people that loved it so much. I know most don't dislike it as much as me, but this amount of praise surprises me.

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Leonhart4
12/31/19 7:52:21 PM
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I was in no hurry to get to Sora because Roxas was so much better.

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Leonhart4
12/31/19 8:13:44 PM
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Also I almost said Persona 4 but that would have been an actual joke answer

I don't know if the Tanker in MGS2 counts as an opening level but it's up there if it does

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Mac Arrowny
12/31/19 8:28:35 PM
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I liked KH2 a lot more than one but still felt like Twilight Town and Roxas were lame.

First reply to the topic nailed it. Bayonetta 2 and Revengeance both had amazing first levels. Among the best parts of the game, honestly!

Leonhart4 posted...

I don't know if the Tanker in MGS2 counts as an opening level but it's up there if it does


I'd definitely say it does.
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hombad46
12/31/19 8:35:03 PM
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First thing that comes to mind is City Escape.

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Johnbobb
12/31/19 8:36:55 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Kingdom Hearts II


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foolm0r0n
12/31/19 8:40:29 PM
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Nier 1

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Xuxon
12/31/19 9:47:10 PM
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PrinceOfKoopas
12/31/19 9:50:42 PM
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I had Mega Man X in mind when I came to the topic, and then it's right there in the opening!

Alternate: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney.

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Leonhart4
12/31/19 10:00:34 PM
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Pretty solid answer, but I would argue E2-1 is the best intro case

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neonreaper
12/31/19 10:06:17 PM
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Sonic comes to mind

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LOLIAmAnAlt
12/31/19 10:12:13 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zERDc6stJFY

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Epyo
12/31/19 10:56:17 PM
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unpopular opinion but warehouse is p boring!

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Nelson_Mandela
12/31/19 10:56:57 PM
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Midgar

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Panthera
12/31/19 11:09:14 PM
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Xuxon posted...
Fire Emblem Genealogy

Pleasantly surprised to not be the first one to say this

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Hbthebattle
12/31/19 11:14:39 PM
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Danganronpa V3, if were bringing up trial based games
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godofwar596
12/31/19 11:37:20 PM
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Boletaria from Demon's Souls.

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Axl_Rose_85
01/01/20 12:15:42 AM
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Persona 5
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LOLIAmAnAlt
01/01/20 12:20:30 AM
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Doom 1, Doom 2, and Duke Nukem 3D

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pjbasis
01/01/20 12:22:00 AM
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HaRRicH
01/01/20 12:30:01 AM
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I expected Mario and MMX to get some love, but...

ZaziGuado posted...
The Lion King Grasslands or whatever the first level is called.

...this is a pretty good answer too.

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Raka_Putra
01/01/20 12:31:44 AM
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Hbthebattle posted...
Danganronpa V3, if were bringing up trial based games
Good pick.

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LiquidOshawott
01/01/20 12:37:37 AM
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Was thinking Uncharted 2 tbh

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xp1337
01/01/20 12:38:06 AM
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RULES OF NATURE!

Resident Evil 4 would be a good pick too. I also really like KotOR II's first level, the atmosphere was great.

I'm also on Team KH2 on this KH1 v 2 debate. Destiny Islands is lame. KH2 Prologue is great.


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Kamekguy
01/01/20 12:43:09 AM
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I love Banjo-Kazooie for a pure tutorial, Spiral Mountain's one of the most joyous, fun introductions into 3D space out there.

For first actual level, Tanker and Virtuous Mission from MGS2 and MGS3 are both REALLY strong, but I'll say Dinner of Flames from Rondo of Blood. Fighting through the ruins of Castlevania II because THEY KNEW was so good.

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HanOfTheNekos
01/01/20 12:54:59 AM
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KH3 is good

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StealThisSheen
01/01/20 12:57:39 AM
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I just wanna agree that Twilight Town is better than Destiny Islands

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SaveEstelle
01/01/20 12:57:59 AM
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Great Plateau in BOTW

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Mac Arrowny
01/01/20 1:06:43 AM
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Great Plateau worst part of BotW
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