Poll of the Day > The Average AMERICAN Gamer is 33 YEARS OLD and 46% are FEMALE!!!

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The Entertainment Software Association has found that the average american gamer is 33 YEARS OLD and many of them like to play on their SMARTPHONE!!

The average gamer is also spending more on games every year with 20% more than a year ago and 85% more than in 2015.

ESA represents the computer software and gaming companies. Ipsos, also questioned 4000 gamers for the ESA report.

In the US, more than 164 million play video games which is roughly 65% of ALL US Adults. The most popular is the casual game that are simple rules and don't require much time or skill

American gamers spend around 43 billion on gaming and most of that was to buy games not computer hardware or gaming accessories..

The most popular games were Call of Duty: Black Ops 3, Red Dead Redemption 3 and NBA 2K19

Video Games are striking a chord with american culture as it provides them with mental activity to escape their work or other day to day pressures.

It also found that 46% of them were FEMALE although they like games different from the boys and men..

Americans will soon be able to play even more games as Apple and Google have announced plans to launch gaming streaming services, particularly Google's Stadia

Are you 33+ and still playing video games?


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If they excluded mobile, the gender ratio would probably be like 9-to-1 >_>
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Zeus posted...

If they excluded mobile, the gender ratio would probably be like 9-to-1 >_>

Also, probably if they excluded this kind of gamer:




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46% is too high for the US, I know gaming in Japan is slightly dominated by women (a little over 60%) that's due to Otome games (which do count as games due to being on PC and consoles) and not mobile games.
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I know two people who make video games, and they're both girls, so...
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Zeus posted...

If they excluded mobile, the gender ratio would probably be like 9-to-1 >_>

Not even close but good try.
Krow_Incarnate posted...

Also, probably if they excluded this kind of gamer:

That's just a model. That photoshopped booty pic tho :P
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Hop103 posted...

46% is too high for the US, I know gaming in Japan is slightly dominated by women (a little over 60%) that's due to Otome games (which do count as games due to being on PC and consoles) and not mobile games.

I find that hard to believe.

DANTE20XX posted...

Zeus posted...

If they excluded mobile, the gender ratio would probably be like 9-to-1 >_>

Not even close but good try.

Right, it's more like 19-1.
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I've met like one girl that played games, maybe two.

the rest would curse you out for doing something like that in front of them
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ppl who say mobile games aren't games have never actually played them
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TheWitchMorgana posted...

ppl who say mobile games aren't games have never actually played them

They're both games like how hopscotch and NASCAR are both games.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

They're both games like how hopscotch and NASCAR are both games.

There are actually full games on mobile platforms, far less than like gacha games but they do exist. (FF Tactics, for example, came out on mobile platforms. I've played a full on Harvest Moon game on mobile.)

Besides, who actually cares?

(And who calls NASCAR a game? I've honestly never heard that before. Unless that's the point, and then welp woooooosh I guess? x3)

ChaosAzeroth posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

They're both games like how hopscotch and NASCAR are both games.

There are actually full games on mobile platforms, far less than like gacha games but they do exist. (FF Tactics, for example, came out on mobile platforms. I've played a full on Harvest Moon game on mobile.)

Besides, who actually cares?

(And who calls NASCAR a game? I've honestly never heard that before. Unless that's the point, and then welp woooooosh I guess? x3)

maybe he should've said sport instead of game for those two.
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RoboXgp89 posted...

I've met like one girl that played games, maybe two.

the rest would curse you out for doing something like that in front of them

The different world's we live in. i know a lot of female gamers, heck my nieces play a lot if games. they play all kinds from skyrim, mincraft, fighting, and sims. Other females I know play rpgs and fighting games. habent met to many that play shooters though. my mom is the one that gotbme into gaming, she loves mystery games, horror games, zelda, etc. my grandma favorite game is dig dug. I kmew one girl that streamed games and sge was pretty hot, she played rpgs and mortal kombat. just intetesting to hear that others have a complete opposite experience.
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yutterh posted...

RoboXgp89 posted...

I've met like one girl that played games, maybe two.

the rest would curse you out for doing something like that in front of them

The different world's we live in. i know a lot of female gamers, heck my nieces play a lot if games. they play all kinds from skyrim, mincraft, fighting, and sims. Other females I know play rpgs and fighting games. habent met to many that play shooters though. my mom is the one that gotbme into gaming, she loves mystery games, horror games, zelda, etc. my grandma favorite game is dig dug. I kmew one girl that streamed games and sge was pretty hot, she played rpgs and mortal kombat. just intetesting to hear that others have a complete opposite experience.

I grew up with pokemon yellow when i was like 9

the quickest way to be that creepy akward guy is to play/bring up videogames in a social setting

People see you playing a 3ds, they'll act like you're a weirdo
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Nade Duck posted...

ChaosAzeroth posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

They're both games like how hopscotch and NASCAR are both games.

There are actually full games on mobile platforms, far less than like gacha games but they do exist. (FF Tactics, for example, came out on mobile platforms. I've played a full on Harvest Moon game on mobile.)

Besides, who actually cares?

(And who calls NASCAR a game? I've honestly never heard that before. Unless that's the point, and then welp woooooosh I guess? x3)

maybe he should've said sport instead of game for those two.

A sport is a game, the word sport is derived from the latin word for a game.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

A sport is a game, the word sport is derived from the latin word for a game.

In general conversation, people often differentiate the two to be fair. Language changes over time, with usage.

I'm not trying to be like *nahnahnah you're wrong' or something, just pointing out perhaps why this is genuinely the first time I've heard this. Because I've never heard of this at all.

In general, not aimed at anyone in particular:

In the end, I don't think it matters what game you play. Be it hopscotch or NASCAR. (To use the previous analogy.) The point in a game is to have fun, if you're having fun that's what matters. I'm not really big on shooters generally, but I don't find anything wrong with them. Just like I'm sure there's people who aren't big on RPGs that don't see anything wrong with them. Personal tastes.

When it comes to mobile vs console (including handhelds)... Well I have to be real I've played a few mobile games that were harder than console games. Some console games I've played are super easy, and you know... that's okay. Sometimes you just want to be really good at something, feels good. Sometimes games are more about story too, that happens. Sometimes people are just really good at a certain game and it feels easy, while bad at another so it feels really hard.

Also there are rhythm games for consoles and mobile. What would those be classified? Barbie has dress up games on consoles. Splitting by means of play, as some do, really isn't nuanced enough to really look at what kinds of games are being played. And, quite honestly, I don't think we need that kind of divide anyway.

I most play what's classified as simulation games and RGPs, however I also enjoy Resident Evil games from time to time. Fighting games on occasion. And more crafting based games. And mobile games of all sorts of shades. And idle games. Some would say I'm a gamer, others wouldn't, and I really don't care either way. Feels weird to me instead of giving people who play something different a nod people seem to be so quick to go after if someone is playing a 'real game' or not.

I'm barely over 33 (34) and I don't see me ever quitting playing games. At least not until all my old games give out, as there's not a lot of new offerings coming out that I really care about. The numbers are dwindling more and more it feels like as time goes on. But as long as there's at least one I want and my old games hold out, then yeah I'll keep playing.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

In general conversation, people often differentiate the two to be fair.

It's differentiated arbitrarily. A sport is a sport because it's called a sport, but when you describe a sport, you describe a game.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

In the end, I don't think it matters what game you play. Be it hopscotch or NASCAR. (To use the previous analogy.) The point in a game is to have fun, if you're having fun that's what matters.

There's a difference between playing games and being a gamer, much like there's a difference in being a rasta or just liking a good spliff. There's a culture surrounding it that defines it as much as the action.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

There's a difference between playing games and being a gamer, much like there's a difference in being a rasta or just liking a good spliff. There's a culture surrounding it that defines it as much as the action.

According to the dictionary, a gamer is:
1.
a person who plays video games or participates in role-playing games.

If words are supposed to mean what they mean, and it's an arbitrary distinction then so is someone who plays games and 'gamer'.

Your comparison feels weird to me too, tbh. Rastafarianism has to do with religion, and makes it feel a bit like being a 'gamer' is being taken a bit too seriously.

RoboXgp89 posted...

yutterh posted...

RoboXgp89 posted...

I've met like one girl that played games, maybe two.

the rest would curse you out for doing something like that in front of them

The different world's we live in. i know a lot of female gamers, heck my nieces play a lot if games. they play all kinds from skyrim, mincraft, fighting, and sims. Other females I know play rpgs and fighting games. habent met to many that play shooters though. my mom is the one that gotbme into gaming, she loves mystery games, horror games, zelda, etc. my grandma favorite game is dig dug. I kmew one girl that streamed games and sge was pretty hot, she played rpgs and mortal kombat. just intetesting to hear that others have a complete opposite experience.

I grew up with pokemon yellow when i was like 9

the quickest way to be that creepy akward guy is to play/bring up videogames in a social setting

People see you playing a 3ds, they'll act like you're a weirdo

nobody gives a crap if you are playing a switch in public...seriously nobody cares
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ChaosAzeroth posted...

According to the dictionary

According to the dictionary, emojis are words.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

If words are supposed to mean what they mean, and it's an arbitrary distinction then so is someone who plays games and 'gamer'.

The distinction between sport and game is arbitrary, not all words and meanings.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

Your comparison feels weird to me too, tbh. Rastafarianism has to do with religion, and makes it feel a bit like being a 'gamer' is being taken a bit too seriously.

I said "being a rasta" not "Rastafarianism". This is because I'm referring to the culture of people who are rastas, not the tenets of Rastafarianism. Gamers are part of gaming culture, people who just play games are not.

To further expand; Christians believe God hates people who murder, steal or cheat on your wife. You don't become Christian because you don't murder, cheat and commit adultery.
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RoboXgp89 posted...

the quickest way to be that creepy akward guy is to play/bring up videogames in a social setting

I've honestly just had people ask what I was playing if anything.

Pfsh!!! Everyone knows there are no girls on the internet...
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Being a gamer requires you to, like anything else in life be able to enjoy that activity on a regular basis, not causally play a mobile game every once in a while when you're so bored just because you have nothing else to do.

Playing basketball every once in a while doesnt make you a basketball player. If I was serious about playing basket ball and called myself a basketball player because I enjoyed using most of my free time on it then I would expect the same of someone else who claims to do so. Same thing with any other hobby in life.

If I look for a romantic partner who is a gamer because I want to spend most of my free time sharing a hobby we are both passionate about then I am not going to find the right partner if the definition of gamer was the same as Duckbears/The Entertainment Software Association.

Fourty-six percent of gamers are female? MY ASS.
That means that half of the women I meet should be eligible for serious dating. The more truthful statement here is forty-six percent of women HAVE played a game or occasionally dabble in gaming. Anyone can game but being a gamer isnt for everyone.

dioxxys posted...

Being a gamer requires you to, like anything else in life be able to enjoy that activity on a regular basis, not causally play a mobile game every once in a while when you're so bored just because you have nothing else to do.

What if they play mobile games frequently and enjoy them though? On a regular basis?

Also when I was in high school a good chunk of the girls played video games in most of their free time tbh. Mobile games weren't a thing.

Real gamers don't mobile game.
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Candy crush doesn't count.
There's no way females make up for 46% of gamers in the US without using farmville and candy crush numbers.
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RoboXgp89 posted...

yutterh posted...

RoboXgp89 posted...

I've met like one girl that played games, maybe two.

the rest would curse you out for doing something like that in front of them

The different world's we live in. i know a lot of female gamers, heck my nieces play a lot if games. they play all kinds from skyrim, mincraft, fighting, and sims. Other females I know play rpgs and fighting games. habent met to many that play shooters though. my mom is the one that gotbme into gaming, she loves mystery games, horror games, zelda, etc. my grandma favorite game is dig dug. I kmew one girl that streamed games and sge was pretty hot, she played rpgs and mortal kombat. just intetesting to hear that others have a complete opposite experience.

I grew up with pokemon yellow when i was like 9

the quickest way to be that creepy akward guy is to play/bring up videogames in a social setting

People see you playing a 3ds, they'll act like you're a weirdo

If you are being the creepy awkward guy it has nothing to do with video games, and everything to do with insufficient social skills. Video games are absolutely as big and accepted a part of culture as tv, movies, books, and sports.
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TheWitchMorgana posted...

ppl who say mobile games aren't games have never actually played them

Most mobile games today are gambling machines for the developers and publishers to take your money with some ports and western F2S games.
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Zeus posted...

If they excluded mobile, the gender ratio would probably be like 9-to-1 >_>

Zeus posted...

Right, it's more like 19-1.

Zeus.

Bro.
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MObiLe GaMeS doNT coUNt!!!
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I'm 32, but I'm sure I'll still be a gamer within the next year.
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Those hardcore Candy Crush moms are the realest gamers of all time.

Hop103 posted...

TheWitchMorgana posted...

ppl who say mobile games aren't games have never actually played them

Most mobile games today are gambling machines for the developers and publishers to take your money with some ports and western F2S games.

still games.
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ChaosAzeroth posted...

dioxxys posted...

Being a gamer requires you to, like anything else in life be able to enjoy that activity on a regular basis, not causally play a mobile game every once in a while when you're so bored just because you have nothing else to do.

What if they play mobile games frequently and enjoy them though? On a regular basis?

Also when I was in high school a good chunk of the girls played video games in most of their free time tbh. Mobile games weren't a thing.

Well if they enjoy them that much can they not just enjoy something with a bit more substance? If I try to get that kind of girl to sit down and play a console/pc game while I backseat game and tutor them, will they enjoy it or deep down roll their eyes internally and consider it a waste of their time?

dioxxys posted...

If I try to get that kind of girl to sit down and play a console/pc game while I backseat game and tutor them,

I'd roll my eyes at you too trying to force someone to play a game that you deem a "gamer criteria"
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The cringe is beyond real ITT.
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Most mobile "games" are not games. Stardew valley is on mobile, and it is a game. Candy Crush is not a game.
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dioxxys posted...

Well if they enjoy them that much can they not just enjoy something with a bit more substance? If I try to get that kind of girl to sit down and play a console/pc game while I backseat game and tutor them, will they enjoy it or deep down roll their eyes internally and consider it a waste of their time?

I mean, usually when someone puts someone in that position (in my experience) they try to get them to play a game that's no where near what the person playing would be interested in and then keeps getting annoyed because the person 'isn't doing it right' and 'isn't listening to them'. So kinda depends how you go about that one probably. And with who. Some people really hate feeling pushed, and some may feel belittled by it. Too many factors there to give a one-size-fits-all answer. Are you talking about looking at their likes to pick a game that they have a chance of liking, or trying to get them to play something because it's a 'good game' and a 'must play'?

As for why, sometimes it's just fun to screw around and collect stuff. A lot of mobile games I've played at least aren't any worse than pokemon honestly. Collect characters and battle, level up those characters and eventually just start stomping things. Yeah, some are absolute crap, and there's definitely rampant monetization. But that's happening in AAA games more and more too. *shrugs*

I've encountered console games that 'lack substance' as well, which in some ways there are objective parts to that. I personally wouldn't say that the new CoD being only multiplayer has substance. Also wouldn't say someone's not a gamer for playing it.

IDK, gaming really wasn't a big deal when I was younger in some ways. We all did it, way too much probably. Fought with siblings, got up at 5 am (or earlier) in the summer to be the one to get to the console first. We got the magazines, eventually with the internet we pissed off our parents printing huge guides. So many people I knew pissed of their parents with printing huge guides. They literally added the coin machine to the library printer in large part because of people printing off like 40+ page guides and not paying for them. (Jammed our printer once trying to print an OoT guide. Probably lucky it jammed, it was like 45 pages. x3)

Guys and gals alike, generally playing the same things. (With the exception of like, Barbie games. I tried one, it was okay. Kinda boring IMO, but to each their own. Went back to The Lion King. Thankfully, game rentals used to be a big thing. x3)

Played so many thing. Old PC games (like battle chess), atari (I actually liked ET, played it enough to get good at it, beat that sucker multiple times, once I beat it a couple it was usually easy tbh), NES, SNES, N64, PS, PS2, GC, GBC, GBA, DS, 3DS, XBox, 360, PS4, current PC games. And yes, even some mobile and idle games because why not? Sometimes a person just wants to screw around.

As games progressed they got more divided it feels like to me. Which is part of why I don't care if I'm considered an 'official' a gamer or not. I've spent 8+ hours a day playing video games (DS/3DS usually at this point, also Switch and a little PS4 but I just like having the screen over with me more tbh) and as little as 10+ hours some weeks. I tend to get WAY too into the games I play, often binge playing a game. But as a title... the 'official' gamer title feels pointless to me. Too many people get too honestly snobbish for me to really care if they see me as 'one of them' or not.

I'm just gonna keep playing my games and obsessing about the ones I like, and not playing things that don't interest me. Some say that's a gamer, some say you have to play specific games (usually shooters and Soulsborne games come up). Some people I've met said you have to play competitively even.

keyblader1985 posted...

The cringe is beyond real ITT.

for real
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@darcandkharg31 posted...

dioxxys posted...

If I try to get that kind of girl to sit down and play a console/pc game while I backseat game and tutor them,

I'd roll my eyes at you too trying to force someone to play a game that you deem a "gamer criteria"

Its not about forcing someone to play something, its about spending time with a friend/lover doing something we both enjoy. If they arent enjoying playing video games, they arent a gamer, its as simple as that.

dioxxys posted...

ts not about forcing someone to play something, its about spending time with a friend/lover doing something we both enjoy. If they arent enjoying playing video games, they arent a gamer, its as simple as that.

Okay don't want to date people that don't share interests? Fair.

I do want to bring up the fact that two people can enjoy different games and still be gamers. You're not necessarily going to be playing games together just because you're both gamers.

Like if one person prefers shooters and one prefers RPGs. They're both gamers, but they aren't going to be playing games together likely. On top of the fact many play single player games, sure they can bond over a shared experience, but they aren't actually playing together.

In my experience two people who like playing video games can run into issues. Like who gets to play the game when. Spouse used to hog the heck out of the TV and consoles. Now they work so much that's not a thing really, but trust me it can lead to some mild butting of heads from time to time. x3

Also, from my experience, just because you both play the same game doesn't guarantee bonding. I've been able to bond with my spouse with things that I really have no interest in doing while sometimes they don't really talk about our shared games interest. While I kind of get the bonding angle, I just don't fully get it.

As far as the not playing games = not a gamer, the problem therein lies more defining 'what is a game' it seems like.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

I mean, usually when someone puts someone in that position (in my experience) they try to get them to play a game that's no where near what the person playing would be interested in and then keeps getting annoyed because the person 'isn't doing it right' and 'isn't listening to them'.

So kinda depends how you go about that one probably. And with who. Some people really hate feeling pushed, and some may feel belittled by it. Too many factors there to give a one-size-fits-all answer. Are you talking about looking at their likes to pick a game that they have a chance of liking, or trying to get them to play something because it's a 'good game' and a 'must play'?

I dont think you have had a good backseat gaming experience if thats how most of your sessions have gone. And if they seemed to lose the drive I wouldnt push them, sometimes they preferred to backseat game to me instead.

I think Im good at helping people learn to play games at a slow pace, as a patient teacher should be. Every game I have backseat gamed with someone included a interest in already playing that game. Never trying to drop something too difficult into the hands of an amateur.

INCOMING PERSONAL EXPERIENCES>>>

I actually have lots of experience with this, many were girls who weren't gamers, some of them girlfriends. I have got one girl who was completely disinterested in gaming to enjoy playing a game. It didnt make her a gamer, but she enjoyed her experience and the reason she played it was just because of her trust in me. Game was Limbo btw.

Another girlfriend I had was interested in gaming and kind of fell out of playing it due to preferring to binge netflix all of the time because that was easier. I think her brother gave her a hard time when she did poorly at games. I teased her a bit but generally gave her encouragement and pointed out how she had improved from the last death. Game was Uncharted 5, the aim assist was up all the way ^o^ but I didnt give her flak about that because I just wanted to take her interest in the game and convert it to passion. I was proud of her for beating Until Dawn, which she beat side by side to me while I played another game.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

I do want to bring up the fact that two people can enjoy different games and still be gamers. You're not necessarily going to be playing games together just because you're both gamers.

Like if one person prefers shooters and one prefers RPGs. They're both gamers, but they aren't going to be playing games together likely. On top of the fact many play single player games, sure they can bond over a shared experience, but they aren't actually playing together.

I dont consider this a problem for me because since I am such a hardcore gamer I have a wide variety of interests in genres, so if the other person simply likes playing games in their spare time, chance is we can share a lot of fun times together.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

In my experience two people who like playing video games can run into issues. Like who gets to play the game when. Spouse used to hog the heck out of the TV and consoles. Now they work so much that's not a thing really, but trust me it can lead to some mild butting of heads from time to time. x3

Haha I dont really have issue with this myself as I always have plenty of monitors and consoles/PCs

In fact with this future spouse in mind, I have begun building a library of games on a secondary account simply for my significant other to use so I can further this goal.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

e got the magazines, eventually with the internet we pissed off our parents printing huge guides. So many people I knew pissed of their parents with printing huge guides.

Lol I used to do this, still have binders filled with guides I printed from gamefaqs, complete with dividers too.

dioxxys posted...

I dont think you have had a good backseat gaming experience if thats how most of your sessions have gone. And if they seemed to lose the drive I wouldnt push them, sometimes they preferred to backseat game to me instead.

I think Im good at helping people learn to play games at a slow pace, as a patient teacher should be. Every game I have backseat gamed with someone included a interest in already playing that game. Never trying to drop something too difficult into the hands of an amateur.

And that's why I said it depends, because some people can do it and some can't. Nothing wrong with not being able to, not everyone is a teacher sort of person.

Yeah they probably haven't gone well, I think they mean well. I get that it can be easy to get frustrated. But it does really sour the whole thing. When you're trying your best and getting griped at just makes ya feel stupid, well makes me feel stupid. And like the person is mad at me. And like I don't want to do the thing anymore. Just usually ended with someone really pissed off and me feeling like crap.

I've more seen people pushing people to game that they don't like than experienced that one fortunately. I've had games suggested that really weren't in my wheelhouse, but nothing pushed too hard. I have chosen to try new games that I wasn't sure about, which was fine. But then when people get annoyed at me not being good it's like... I warned you, I really did.

If that person is struggling with the game that much I really dont mind them playing the easiest difficulty and setting aim assist up all the way. I mean in the end being a gamer is about enjoying yourself while playing games, if it makes you mad then theres no need to force.

Glad we could share a nice conversation on the topic .

dioxxys posted...

If that person is struggling with the game that much I really dont mind them playing the easiest difficulty and setting aim assist up all the way. I mean in the end being a gamer is about enjoying yourself while playing games, if it makes you mad then theres no need to force.

See, this I like.
I've encountered SO MANY people that honestly think you're cheating if you play 'too easy' or something.

My spouse isn't like that, but they do like to poke fun at me for playing games on easy on occasion. Especially if I could play it on normal or hard.

Like we were playing a digimon game on PS4. I COULD have been fine on normal, but I went screw it I'm gonna play on easy and have a super chill file. They poked fun at me, but then was like 'why do you get more time with your digimon'. Easy mode lol. Then I ended up poking fun a bit and going 'bet you wish you'd picked easy too now'. Apparently, kinda. (All fun poking from both sides is good natured and no one gets upset. If a line is accidentally crossed, it's quickly mended.)

We more bond over the fun everyone is having with what they do at times. Sure, talking about a shared game interest is fun. But seeing someone's eyes light up because they did something, because they're enjoying what they're doing? Priceless IMO.

I'm glad too. It's really nice to see someone who enjoys games and wants to enjoy them with others. :3

keyblader1985 posted...

Zeus posted...

If they excluded mobile, the gender ratio would probably be like 9-to-1 >_>

Zeus posted...

Right, it's more like 19-1.

Zeus.

Bro.

That wall just got 10 feet taller.
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My first question seeing the title and that ridiculous %: "How many of those are playing useless smart phones games?"
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While games like candy crush are technically games. People who play them don't consider themselves gamers. And people who consider themselves gamers don't typically play games like candy crush.

So just because a large number of moms play candy crush doesn't mean there's suddenly a huge amount of female gamers.

Ask any candy crusher what their favorite RPG is and they'll probably give you a blank stare or a puzzled look in return. "What's an RPG?"
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