Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1322

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At what point do we call Cloud's lead insurmountable, even with rallies? Does he need to be at 500 or better with two hours remaining to feel safe?

If the rallies don't come, I think hitting 350 before noon means that he should win.
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charmander6000 posted...

Honestly, it's because people are still angry Mario defeated Crono in 2003. Outside of beating Samus a couple of days ago Mario has been very non-controversial for 15 years.

Mario hasn't had much to be controversial about since. He's either been a clear winner or on the other end of a Clinkeroth beatdown, or involved in SFF shenanigans, which were just hilarious.
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without rallies Cloud doesn't even need any significant lead

Cloud tends to get progressively stronger as the match goes. look at the Mario match, he just kept going up the whole day little by little.

Yes, but Zelda has a stronger day vote than Mario.
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Cloud has probably been the strongest afternoon vote character this contest, so unless Zelda rallies come through he should be safe.

(Hopefully)

Turns out all the Smash kiddies love them some Cloud
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if part of Cloud's natural strength now comes from Smash...I guess that explains why he performed so badly against Link.
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Came back from work, checked the results. This is what I have to say.

Match=Cloud is here AND winning? Huh?

Chibi Cloud is the best Cloud!
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abdou posted...

if part of Cloud's natural strength now comes from Smash...I guess that explains why he performed so badly against Link.

I made my bracket on the basis that Cloud should have had enough of a boost to become the #2 of the site again because of Smash. I just can't figure out exactly how would that hurt him because of SFF.
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Keep in mind Zelda is without hentai rallies too
They might not be worth much, but 250 votes is not much either
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Fuck yeah Cloud
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I don't think Mario was a villain until this contest. When Vivi beat him it was more the hilarity of breaking the status quo than anything else. When he shows up, almost gets beaten by Samus, then holds on in the rematch when voters are desperate for a shakeup, he started getting anti-voted.
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charmander6000 posted...

Honestly, it's because people are still angry Mario defeated Crono in 2003. Outside of beating Samus a couple of days ago Mario has been very non-controversial for 15 years.

That was non-controversial as well, people just didn't like it.
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> Gets in from work. Checks GameFAQs.

> Sees Cloud hung around for an hour or two doing nothing then just went for it like a mad man and hasn't let up, relentlessly coming at Zelda all day.

> *Fist pumps*

Get in! Go Cloud! This is incredible stuff. Running back over Mario and Zelda to #2. Contest legend status affirmed. Okay he's gonna get caught by the LAW in 6 hours but that's secondary.
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Cloud out here throwing haymakers right now. We're not far from a knockout, even with potential rallies.
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@Nanis23 posted...

Keep in mind Zelda is without hentai rallies too
They might not be worth much, but 250 votes is not much either

Why are you not hentai rallying her right now?
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INTERWEBUSER posted...

@Nanis23 posted...

Keep in mind Zelda is without hentai rallies too
They might not be worth much, but 250 votes is not much either

Why are you not hentai rallying her right now?

Two reasons


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I consider that last match as a true miracle. When I saw that Mario had more votes than that other FF character, I though he could be challenging to Cloud. However I also know that it's without a doubt a test of faith. And now Cloud beated him and is now winning over Zelda. Faith pays.
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God Bless Final Fantasy
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It's funny how inactive this and the previous topic was in contrast to how "close" the matches were (Mario/Cloud and Cloud/Zelda for most of it).
Then again, Link is next and he already beat all of them easily (except Mario but it would be embarassing too) so this might as well be bonus matches

Cloud/Mario spoiled the results of Cloud/Zelda, though it seems Cloud decided to take off with the lead earlier this time.
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I said about 15 hours ago that Cloud vs 51% was the real match to watch

Looks like he'll get it too. Good show Cloud
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Everyone loving the Cloud comeback, who would have thought.

Is this the last battle before Zelda goes #2 is the question

FFVII remake will come out before next CB and Cloud will beat Link.
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abdou posted...

FFVII remake will come out before next CB and Cloud will beat Link.

If FFVII Remake is what I think it will be, it will make Cloud far weaker.

FFVII Remake would have to come out during the contest, and be good, for it to work

And even then, it would have to be far enough from BOTW and with no new Zelda even ANNOUNCED.

AND EVEN THEN, I'd still think Link was the favorite. So ingrained are the nanomachines that make his fans vote for him.
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3 days in a row Cloud matches. Fun.
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FF7 always wins

Everyone vote Link tomorrow to end the menace!
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Match CL: (1) Link vs. (4) Cloud Strife

Current Contest Performance

Link
Defeated Ganondorf, 79.64% - 20.36%
Defeated Pikachu, 68.41% - 31.59%
Defeated Cloud Strife, 60.52% - 39.48%
Defeated Zelda, 63.56% - 36.44%

Cloud Strife
Defeated Alucard, 60.40% - 39.60%
Defeated Crono, 56.73% - 43.27%
Lost to Link, 39.48% - 60.52%
Defeated Crono, 57.79% - 42.21%
Defeated Mario, 50.24% - 49.76%
Defeated Zelda, 51.2x% - 48.7x%

Analysis

After all the debates it looks like Cloud will remain the second strongest character of the bracket, though I imagine there will be some people that will argue that the honor belongs to Samus. Regardless, congratulations to Cloud for making the Grand Final.

Too bad Link is still going to stomp him. The only question is whether or not Cloud will hold up better relative to his previous match. Like Zelda, I feel Cloud will get a bit of a boost at the beginning of the match and then will drop off for the rest of the day. In the end, it should be enough to break 40%, but thats of little consolation to how powerful Link has become. Overall, I had fun this contest. Im a big fan of double elimination brackets, but it needs to be fixed to prevent rematches as much as possible.

charmander6000s Bracket: Link > Solid Snake

charmander6000s Prediction: Link wins, 58.89% - 41.11%
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I'm not sure I buy Samus beating Cloud. Everyone still seems stuck on the 'stronger indirectly' than Mario, but what have we seen this year to indicate that?
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If Tifa > Seph then Samus > Mario based on their first round matches.

Also Samus > Snake was way more impressive than any of Mario's wins, even if it was some weird fluke .

Yeah you either gotta say there's rSFF somewhere otherwise Samus was projected to get around 52% on Mario through comparing Seph and Tifa performances.

I'm thinking Mario rSFFing Samus is a lot more likely than Tifa to Seph based on the other results seen

As mentioned Samus vs Snake is really weird no matter how you slice it because Zelda > Mario and Zelda got like 50.5% against Snake meanwhile Samus with 55.5% on Snake can't beat Mario.
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See, I would argue the opposite. Tifa/Seph was a weird match and makes no sense if you take it at face value. I'd sooner peg Tifa/Seph at the same level and call it a day.

As for the Zelda matches, those can be easily explained with bandwagon votes (look at the board votes) and hentai rallies
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I agree. Do you believe that 1st match Zelda is the same Zelda that faced Mario?
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Samus/Snake seems like a legit result, and just below Snake is where I would put Zelda's natural strength. That gives Cloud a comfortable 52-48 against Samus and makes Mario/Samus 1 look like their legitimate strengths.

I don't have the numbers in front of me though, but if you do that, where does Squall end up in the final stats through Zelda?
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Safer_777 posted...

I agree. Do you believe that 1st match Zelda is the same Zelda that faced Mario?

No Chance. She got stronger as the contest went on. She wasnt even the same Zelda that faced Snake.

But Id say she increased in strength 2-3% per match
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Samus/Snake seems like a legit result, and just below Snake is where I would put Zelda's natural strength. That gives Cloud a comfortable 52-48 against Samus and makes Mario/Samus 1 look like their legitimate strengths.

I don't have the numbers in front of me though, but if you do that, where does Squall end up in the final stats through Zelda?

HERS The thing....I think samus beats cloud. I think samus is genuinely indirectly #2.

The way she dismantled snake was ridiculous.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Safer_777 posted...

I agree. Do you believe that 1st match Zelda is the same Zelda that faced Mario?

No Chance. She got stronger as the contest went on. She wasnt even the same Zelda that faced Snake.

But Id say she increased in strength 2-3% per match

Based on what she was throwing down before the Snake match, her being at 48-49% on natural Snake (and Snake being equal to Mega Man/Crono) seems to be the best fit to me.
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Cloud would have clutch beat Samus in this contest, lets be honest.

Samus might come out better against many characters, but she wouldnt have taken down Cloud when push came to shove.

Ugh, I take it that Zelda has no chance at this point...
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Barring some crazy rally yeah

Get ready for next contest people saying Zelda is a fraud
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Realistically she probably won't be able to hang with Mario, Cloud, and Samus again. But Crono, Mega Man, Pikachu, and Snake better watch out!
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OrangeCrush980 posted...

Realistically she probably won't be able to hang with Mario, Cloud, and Samus again. But Crono, Mega Man, Pikachu, and Snake better watch out!

Her normal strength is better than pikachu and MM anyway. Snake will become even more irrelevant in 5 years.
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Lmao at Zelda losing after all
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Advokaiser posted...

Still no votes for D.F. (Mexico City)

Do you need to activate an option on the settings for you to be registered under certain country/state?

It appears that the map for Mexico is very bugged. Given that the DF is the largest region in Mexico by population, it's really strange that there aren't any votes from there. I went back through past polls, and it's been like that for the past few months of polls. I might have to report this issue to Allen eventually.
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Cloud holding over 51%. Oh yeah. This is a proper rise to heaven - from 46.4% after 10 mins to 51% by the end.
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Finally found the match pics.

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-ulti-f.png
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-ange-f.png
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-boss-f.png (WHAT)

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/cloud-f-ange-f.png
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