Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 107: Better (Try Harder) Care Reconciliation Act

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BowserCuffs
06/28/17 1:53:17 PM
#102:


Kenri posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
*exceptions including teenagers who, in many places, aren't required to be paid minimum wage anyways

I didn't know this, that's hella gross.


Agreed
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charmander6000
06/28/17 2:41:41 PM
#103:


BowserCuffs posted...
Kenri posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
*exceptions including teenagers who, in many places, aren't required to be paid minimum wage anyways

I didn't know this, that's hella gross.


Agreed


When I was in high school my province had that policy. Basically a student with less than 500 hours of work experience could be paid $6/hr. After that they had to be paid at least the minimum wage ($8/hr).

Sadly what a lot of businesses would do was hire a person and then fire them when they were approaching the 500 hour mark.
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LordoftheMorons
06/28/17 2:44:32 PM
#104:


https://twitter.com/jonlovett/status/880109389562093569
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LordoftheMorons
06/28/17 2:54:47 PM
#105:


Also holy shit these poll numbers for AHCA/BCRA: https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/status/880133965306310656

I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that it's in the GOP's interest to pass this garbage
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LordoftheMorons
06/28/17 3:02:11 PM
#106:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880017678978736129

I would pay 20 bucks to see Trump forced to explain what AHCA/BCRA do

I strongly suspect a random person pulled off the street has a better idea of what they do than Trump.
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Not_an_Owl
06/28/17 3:14:12 PM
#107:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Also holy shit these poll numbers for AHCA/BCRA: https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/status/880133965306310656

I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that it's in the GOP's interest to pass this garbage

but they'll be keeping a promise so people will vote for them

right

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Eddv
06/28/17 4:11:45 PM
#108:


Not_an_Owl posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Also holy shit these poll numbers for AHCA/BCRA: https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/status/880133965306310656

I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that it's in the GOP's interest to pass this garbage

but they'll be keeping a promise so people will vote for them

right

??????????????????????????????????/



Approval among REPUBLICANS is still pretty high if it hasnt changed much since the AHCA.

like high 60s/low 70s.

So theyre damned if they do; damned if they don't.

Either they vote against it and risk getting primaried or vote for it and risk getting general'd

Given that you need to win the primary to make it to the general...well yeah that's why most of them will still vote for it.

Polarization at its finest.
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LordoftheMorons
06/28/17 4:44:13 PM
#109:


If it's down to 15ish percent approval it likely doesn't even have majority support among Republicans
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Not_an_Owl
06/28/17 4:50:10 PM
#110:


LordoftheMorons posted...
If it's down to 15ish percent approval it likely doesn't even have majority support among Republicans

Well, maybe! Registered Republicans make up what, 32% of the electorate? 34%? Something around there. So if you take the 17% approval rating, depending on rounding and sample selection you could have majority Republican approval even if zero independents and Democrats approve.

Of course, voting for a bill that has absolutely zero independent support has its own suite of issues, but if your foremost concern is "don't get primaried" you take what you can get.
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red sox 777
06/28/17 4:52:44 PM
#111:


Approval ratings are overrated. Trump never once beat Hillary on approval ratings and won the election. Congress has ratings languishing in the 10% range year after year and still reelects 80-90% of its members every election.
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Not_an_Owl
06/28/17 4:54:21 PM
#112:


red sox 777 posted...
Approval ratings are overrated. Trump never once beat Hillary on approval ratings and won the election.

hurr durr whats the electoral college hurr durr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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red sox 777
06/28/17 4:57:50 PM
#113:


Not_an_Owl posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Approval ratings are overrated. Trump never once beat Hillary on approval ratings and won the election.

hurr durr whats the electoral college hurr durr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


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woodman
06/28/17 5:00:12 PM
#114:


red sox 777 posted...
Not_an_Owl posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Approval ratings are overrated. Trump never once beat Hillary on approval ratings and won the election.

hurr durr whats the electoral college hurr durr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


The fount of democracy.

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Peace___Frog
06/28/17 5:04:27 PM
#115:


red sox 777 posted...
Congress has ratings languishing in the 10% range year after year and still reelects 80-90% of its members every election.

Gee, it's almost as though constituents tend to approve of their representative and dislike all the other representatives that aren't theirs!
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red sox 777
06/28/17 5:06:16 PM
#116:


Peace___Frog posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Congress has ratings languishing in the 10% range year after year and still reelects 80-90% of its members every election.

Gee, it's almost as though constituents tend to approve of their representative and dislike all the other representatives that aren't theirs!


You think that doesn't apply equally to AHCA in 2018?
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Jakyl25
06/28/17 5:07:01 PM
#117:


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/880049704620494848

PAY YOUR INTERNET TAX AMAZON!

I...think he's trying to say that WaPo is the force behind Amazon not charging sales tax? Is that even still a thing?

But holy shit what a confusing sentence.
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Forceful_Dragon
06/28/17 6:11:59 PM
#118:


I thought online sales tax was a state by state thing?
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Jakyl25
06/28/17 6:16:33 PM
#119:


I think so? But dammit WaPo STOP PROTECTING AMAZON
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TheRock1525
06/28/17 6:25:59 PM
#120:


It definitely is. I used to love ordering games off Amazon for the lack of tax + getting it same day by being a Prime member, but now we get taxed for that shit so boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Jakyl25
06/28/17 6:44:54 PM
#121:


(Psst! If you're a progressive, you shouldn't boo taxes)
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woodman
06/28/17 6:46:17 PM
#122:


Jakyl25 posted...
(Psst! If you're a progressive, you shouldn't boo taxes)

(that's not how this works)
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Kenri
06/28/17 6:48:53 PM
#123:


Not_an_Owl posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Approval ratings are overrated. Trump never once beat Hillary on approval ratings and won the election.

hurr durr whats the electoral college hurr durr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

A+ red sox impression


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/880049704620494848

PAY YOUR INTERNET TAX AMAZON!

I...think he's trying to say that WaPo is the force behind Amazon not charging sales tax? Is that even still a thing?

But holy shit what a confusing sentence.

jesus christ our president is sounding more and more like a living markov chain every day
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Jakyl25
06/28/17 6:48:59 PM
#124:


Not in all cases, but booing a reasonable sales tax on an online purchase seems fairly entitled to me.
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red13n
06/28/17 6:50:49 PM
#125:


If I have to pay sales tax online so should the rest of you, tbh.
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Jakyl25
06/28/17 6:52:23 PM
#126:


red13n posted...
If I have to pay sales tax online so should the rest of you, tbh.


That's not you paying sales tax, that's Amazon paying their internet tax, apparently.
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Eddv
06/28/17 6:53:56 PM
#127:


Im really confused by this entire line of argument
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TheRock1525
06/28/17 7:08:38 PM
#128:


Except it's not a uniform sales tax across all states. Like when I was living in Florida and they have a 7% sales tax.

I also don't like consumer taxes in general because it's basically a poor tax since they can't tax their income.
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KamikazePotato
06/28/17 7:11:28 PM
#129:


TheRock1525 posted...
It definitely is. I used to love ordering games off Amazon for the lack of tax + getting it same day by being a Prime member, but now we get taxed for that shit so boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I still experience this because I live in Delaware. It's the only advantage of living in this shithole!
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Jakyl25
06/28/17 7:13:00 PM
#130:


TheRock1525 posted...
Except it's not a uniform sales tax across all states. Like when I was living in Florida and they have a 7% sales tax.

I also don't like consumer taxes in general because it's basically a poor tax since they can't tax their income.


That's why we need to fight any attempt to tax food products
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Paratroopa1
06/28/17 7:15:25 PM
#131:


I'm a big fan of sales taxes because they are inherently a tax on the income that you can afford to lose - so long as things that are actually necessities are not taxed, which I think might need some reforms but I'm not sure
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TheRock1525
06/28/17 7:31:21 PM
#132:


Yeah but look at items like cars, which are taxed literally every time they're sold, yet other items generally aren't.

I'm used to buying a car from an auction, paying the sales tax, sell it a month later and they have to pay the sales tax on it, too. Sell a car enough times and you're talking hundreds or even thousands in taxes.
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Paratroopa1
06/28/17 8:15:55 PM
#133:


yeah that's kind of weird I guess
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GuessMyUserName
06/28/17 8:29:02 PM
#134:


Eddv posted...
Approval among REPUBLICANS is still pretty high if it hasnt changed much since the AHCA.

like high 60s/low 70s.

to be fair a gigantic chunk of that % will approve literally anything the GOP does

so if Republicans just say nothing can be done, their supporters will just praise them for being reasonable
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Jakyl25
06/28/17 8:58:28 PM
#135:


TheRock1525 posted...
I'm used to buying a car from an auction, paying the sales tax, sell it a month later and they have to pay the sales tax on it, too. Sell a car enough times and you're talking hundreds or even thousands in taxes.


And still our roads are garbage
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TheRock1525
06/28/17 9:23:53 PM
#136:


So apparently a Playboy Reporter tore Sarah Huckabee Sanders a new one?
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LordoftheMorons
06/28/17 9:40:14 PM
#137:


Yeah

He called her out for the White House's bullshit denigration and scapegoating of the media. She, of course, being a huge fucking liar like her boss, responded by doing it again.
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TheRock1525
06/28/17 10:02:08 PM
#138:


lol Hannity is trying to give Jeff Zucker advice and puts up a fake tombstone of "CNN 1980-2017"

It's pretty funny to watch a man WIN in the election and somehow lose it even more than before.
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HaRRicH
06/28/17 11:38:28 PM
#139:


https://twitter.com/JeffSharlet/status/880210733065261060

This new NRA ad is barely a whisper shy of a call for full civil war. https://t.co/N33s2KyvVz
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LordoftheMorons
06/28/17 11:41:06 PM
#140:


Jesus Christ

Wayne LaPierre is a fucking psycho
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Nelson_Mandela
06/28/17 11:42:13 PM
#141:


Lmao I love that guy
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Kenri
06/28/17 11:50:38 PM
#142:


Not sure why any conservative would want another civil war. Like do they not know how the first one went?
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Not_an_Owl
06/28/17 11:55:56 PM
#143:


Kenri posted...
Not sure why any conservative would want another civil war. Like do they not know how the first one went?

The Republican Party won. Based on that, why wouldn't they want another civil war?
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Kenri
06/29/17 12:01:48 AM
#144:


I like that answer because it sounds exactly like the logic they might actually use.
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GuessMyUserName
06/29/17 6:34:26 AM
#145:


HaRRicH posted...
https://twitter.com/JeffSharlet/status/880210733065261060

This new NRA ad is barely a whisper shy of a call for full civil war. https://t.co/N33s2KyvVz

... "their" ex president?
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Mr Lasastryke
06/29/17 7:58:42 AM
#146:


Kenri posted...
Not sure why any conservative would want another civil war.


they're thirsty for a new war.
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HaRRicH
06/29/17 8:38:44 AM
#147:


https://apnews.com/af10f7d11f9a4239905c9d4c0c6c7671/Report:-Black-girls-thought-to-need-less-protection?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

WASHINGTON (AP) ? Adults think that black girls are less innocent, less in need of protection and nurturing, and seem older than similarly aged white girls, which could lead to stiffer punishments in school, a new report said Tuesday.

The report also said American adults think black girls know more about adult topics and about sex than white girls of the same age. And those perceptions are greater when it comes to younger black girls ages 5-9 and 10-14. The discrepancy continues to a lesser degree with girls ages 15-19.

?This new evidence of what we call the ?adultification? of black girls may help explain why black girls in America are disciplined much more often and more severely than white girls, across our schools and in our juvenile justice system,? said Rebecca Epstein, lead author of the report and executive director of the Center on Poverty and Inequality at the Georgetown University Law Center.

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Peace___Frog
06/29/17 8:39:36 AM
#148:


Who will they kill after they manage to kill off over a quarter of the world's population? White Christians will never have their bloodthirst satiated.
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LapisLazuli
06/29/17 9:27:34 AM
#149:


HaRRicH posted...
https://twitter.com/JeffSharlet/status/880210733065261060

This new NRA ad is barely a whisper shy of a call for full civil war. https://t.co/N33s2KyvVz


This is horrifying.

Nelson_Mandela posted...
Lmao I love that guy


Not surprising that you feel kinship with a fellow sociopath.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/29/17 10:29:21 AM
#150:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880408582310776832

"low i.q. crazy mika" and "psycho joe" are nicknames i hadn't heard before. i think the former is overly long.
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The Mana Sword
06/29/17 10:30:22 AM
#151:


trump being a disgusting petty fuck on twitter again

can someone please take his phone away, ground him and send him to his room without dinner, preferably for three and a half years
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