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Ayuyu 02/03/12 9:52:00 AM #101:	You'd have to be incredibly stupid to know how to use a iTouch but not a Printer. Even my mom can print stuff and she doesn't even know how to turn off the computer. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:743511] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> You'd have to be incredibly stupid to know how to use a iTouch but not a Printer.Even my mom can print stuff and she doesn't even know how to turn off the computer. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 02/03/12 9:55:00 AM #102:	From: Zachnorn \| #086 At least, I've looked for certain apps "available for iPhone" and I see that they are not offered on Android, and it is rarely the other way around (excluding apps that do stuff specific to iOS/Android, like maintenance apps). http://www.humblebundle.com/ But yeah it's just like saying windows has more software than mac. More market share = more software. From: Ayuyu \| #093 A Mac isn't a PC. Yes it is. "Mac vs. PC" is just an ad campaign. PC stands for personal computer, whether it has Windows or iOS or Linux, or all three. From: the icon ownz all \| #087 find me a $500 laptop that's similar to to a macbook air Similar specs and hardware, or similar ability to be fit into a manila envelope? Because the Air definitely has the last one covered. -- _foolmo_ 'and out of the blue and completely unprovoked came foolmo and his insult' - Anagram <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:743512] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> From: Zachnorn \| #086At least, I've looked for certain apps "available for iPhone" and I see that they are not offered on Android, and it is rarely the other way around (excluding apps that do stuff specific to iOS/Android, like maintenance apps).http://www.humblebundle.com/But yeah it's just like saying windows has more software than mac. More market share = more software.From: Ayuyu \| #093A Mac isn't a PC.Yes it is. "Mac vs. PC" is just an ad campaign. PC stands for personal computer, whether it has Windows or iOS or Linux, or all three.From: the icon ownz all \| #087find me a $500 laptop that's similar to to a macbook airSimilar specs and hardware, or similar ability to be fit into a manila envelope? Because the Air definitely has the last one covered. -- _foolmo_'and out of the blue and completely unprovoked came foolmo and his insult' - Anagram </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the icon ownz all 02/03/12 10:00:00 AM #103:	that one example is not the crux of the argument. i'll state it explicitly, in bold text, so it can get through to you: this isn't about you. you may not value the convenience of Apple products, but millions of people do. that you continue to be dumbfounded by the reasons people would use Apple products despite numerous real-world scenarios says more about your lack of empathy and/or social skills than it does about the supposed gullibility of millions of people. and it's not a matter of intelligence, it's a matter of familiarity. my girlfriend's mother is clueless when placed in front of a computer but knows how to use an ipad. she regularly uses epicurious while cooking because it's easy and it saves paper. i own hundreds of books and yet i still use instapaper on the way to school. -- ICON: When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set Bidoof on fire. <cite>the icon ownz all posted [p:743513] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> that one example is not the crux of the argument. i'll state it explicitly, in bold text, so it can get through to you: this isn't about you. you may not value the convenience of Apple products, but millions of people do. that you continue to be dumbfounded by the reasons people would use Apple products despite numerous real-world scenarios says more about your lack of empathy and/or social skills than it does about the supposed gullibility of millions of people.and it's not a matter of intelligence, it's a matter of familiarity. my girlfriend's mother is clueless when placed in front of a computer but knows how to use an ipad. she regularly uses epicurious while cooking because it's easy and it saves paper. i own hundreds of books and yet i still use instapaper on the way to school. -- ICON:When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set Bidoof on fire. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 02/03/12 10:00:00 AM #104:	From: foolm0ron \| #102 Similar specs and hardware, or similar ability to be fit into a manila envelope? Because the Air definitely has the last one covered. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834107081 Looks like they both can do the same thing. One is slim as hell though. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:743514] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> From: foolm0ron \| #102Similar specs and hardware, or similar ability to be fit into a manila envelope? Because the Air definitely has the last one covered.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834107081Looks like they both can do the same thing.One is slim as hell though. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 02/03/12 10:03:00 AM #105:	Millions of people get the new Apple products because it's hip and trendy though. I bet there are not that many people who actually buy those things for the reasons you're telling me. I mean yeah, maybe later they'll find a cool app and be like '' hey I can do that with this app, nice '', but it's not the reason why they bought the thing. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:743515] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> Millions of people get the new Apple products because it's hip and trendy though.I bet there are not that many people who actually buy those things for the reasons you're telling me.I mean yeah, maybe later they'll find a cool app and be like '' hey I can do that with this app, nice '', but it's not the reason why they bought the thing. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 02/03/12 10:03:00 AM #106:	Celeron 900 is a piece of ** compared to the i5 the Air uses, but for 1/4th the price, I guess it's not bad -- _foolmo_ 'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:743516] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> Celeron 900 is a piece of ** compared to the i5 the Air uses, but for 1/4th the price, I guess it's not bad -- _foolmo_'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the icon ownz all 02/03/12 10:10:00 AM #107:	From: foolm0ron \| #102 Similar specs and hardware, or similar ability to be fit into a manila envelope? Because the Air definitely has the last one covered. specs, customer service, quality product - everything. i'm well aware that it's quite easy to get a more powerful laptop than a macbook air for less, but you're going to be sacrificing something else (worse battery life, lack of ssd hds, unreliable manufacturer, whatever) in order to get the price down. just look at the line of ultrabooks coming out this year from a number of companies. they're all priced around the macbook air. i don't think the air is a perfect product, and i certainly don't think i would ever buy a desktop mac, but the air is pretty cool! -- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world. <cite>the icon ownz all posted [p:743517] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> From: foolm0ron \| #102Similar specs and hardware, or similar ability to be fit into a manila envelope? Because the Air definitely has the last one covered.specs, customer service, quality product - everything. i'm well aware that it's quite easy to get a more powerful laptop than a macbook air for less, but you're going to be sacrificing something else (worse battery life, lack of ssd hds, unreliable manufacturer, whatever) in order to get the price down. just look at the line of ultrabooks coming out this year from a number of companies. they're all priced around the macbook air.i don't think the air is a perfect product, and i certainly don't think i would ever buy a desktop mac, but the air is pretty cool! -- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 02/03/12 10:46:00 AM #108:	that one example is not the crux of the argument. i'll state it explicitly, in bold text, so it can get through to you: this isn't about you. you may not value the convenience of Apple products, but millions of people do. that you continue to be dumbfounded by the reasons people would use Apple products despite numerous real-world scenarios says more about your lack of empathy and/or social skills than it does about the supposed gullibility of millions of people. this is why 'the cult of apple' is so obnoxious "if you don't understand why apple is popular you must lack empathy and social skills" what the **? <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:743518] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> that one example is not the crux of the argument. i'll state it explicitly, in bold text, so it can get through to you: this isn't about you. you may not value the convenience of Apple products, but millions of people do. that you continue to be dumbfounded by the reasons people would use Apple products despite numerous real-world scenarios says more about your lack of empathy and/or social skills than it does about the supposed gullibility of millions of people.this is why 'the cult of apple' is so obnoxious"if you don't understand why apple is popular you must lack empathy and social skills"what the **? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the icon ownz all 02/03/12 10:52:00 AM #109:	you are dense. stop being dense. understand the context of quotes and don't misappropriate what others say. From: the icon ownz all \| #103 this isn't about you. you may not value the convenience of Apple products, but millions of people do. that you continue to be dumbfounded by the reasons people would use Apple products despite numerous real-world scenarios says more about your lack of empathy and/or social skills than it does about the supposed gullibility of millions of people. is not From: Liquid Wind \| #108 "if you don't understand why apple is popular you must lack empathy and social skills" it is not a blanket statement which says everyone who doesn't understand the appeal of apple products lacks social skills. it is a statement at the end of a conversation with one person - ayuyu - who clearly lacks empathy. he has continually demonstrated that he is unable to see any other perspective than his own. -- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world. <cite>the icon ownz all posted [p:743519] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> you are dense. stop being dense. understand the context of quotes and don't misappropriate what others say.From: the icon ownz all \| #103this isn't about you. you may not value the convenience of Apple products, but millions of people do. that you continue to be dumbfounded by the reasons people would use Apple products despite numerous real-world scenarios says more about your lack of empathy and/or social skills than it does about the supposed gullibility of millions of people.is notFrom: Liquid Wind \| #108"if you don't understand why apple is popular you must lack empathy and social skills"it is not a blanket statement which says everyone who doesn't understand the appeal of apple products lacks social skills. it is a statement at the end of a conversation with one person - ayuyu - who clearly lacks empathy. he has continually demonstrated that he is unable to see any other perspective than his own. -- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 02/03/12 10:53:00 AM #111:	From: the icon ownz all \| #107 unreliable manufacturer As if macs aren't made in the same crappy factories as other computers. But duh, you're right, of course you're gonna be sacrificing something. You're not gonna get a copy of an Air for half the price of an Air. The point is that you can sacrifice insignificant things that aren't worth paying double for. I mean, I have no problem with the pricing of Macs. You're paying for the service and the software. It's just annoying when "Mac people" get all pissy when you say that the price isn't worth it for the hardware. It's not even like the software is a direct improvement. It's a preference thing. I personally hate iOS and its attempt to lock down and hide features of a system that is supposed to be very open (UNIX), and I much prefer the customizability of Windows and Linux. But tons of people love the locked down iOS system, because you can't accidentally break it. So if that stuff is worth it to you, then that's fine, but you have to realize that it's not worth it to a lot of people. -- _foolmo_ 'Oh please, if foolmo made that analogy you'd think it was picture perfect' - Biolizard28 <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:743521] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> From: the icon ownz all \| #107unreliable manufacturerAs if macs aren't made in the same crappy factories as other computers.But duh, you're right, of course you're gonna be sacrificing something. You're not gonna get a copy of an Air for half the price of an Air. The point is that you can sacrifice insignificant things that aren't worth paying double for.I mean, I have no problem with the pricing of Macs. You're paying for the service and the software. It's just annoying when "Mac people" get all pissy when you say that the price isn't worth it for the hardware.It's not even like the software is a direct improvement. It's a preference thing. I personally hate iOS and its attempt to lock down and hide features of a system that is supposed to be very open (UNIX), and I much prefer the customizability of Windows and Linux. But tons of people love the locked down iOS system, because you can't accidentally break it.So if that stuff is worth it to you, then that's fine, but you have to realize that it's not worth it to a lot of people. -- _foolmo_'Oh please, if foolmo made that analogy you'd think it was picture perfect' - Biolizard28 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 02/03/12 10:54:00 AM #112:	literally arguing with ayuyu -- _foolmo_ 'Most people at least try to say something funny. See foolmo's post as an example.' - The Real Truth <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:743522] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> literally arguing with ayuyu -- _foolmo_'Most people at least try to say something funny. See foolmo's post as an example.' - The Real Truth </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silvercross 02/03/12 10:54:00 AM #113:	D I already have one. -- There was a signature here. It's gone now. Your face is bees. <cite>Silvercross posted [p:743523] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> DI already have one. -- There was a signature here. It's gone now.Your face is bees. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 02/03/12 10:55:00 AM #114:	Literally -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:743524] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> Literally -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1327549040189jpgez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 02/03/12 10:58:00 AM #115:	who clearly lacks empathy. he has continually demonstrated that he is unable to see any other perspective than his own. you weren't making a statement about ayuyu in general though, you said "that you continue to be dumbfounded by the reasons people would use Apple products despite numerous real-world scenarios says more about your lack of empathy and/or social skills" <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:743525] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> who clearly lacks empathy. he has continually demonstrated that he is unable to see any other perspective than his own. you weren't making a statement about ayuyu in general though, you said"that you continue to be dumbfounded by the reasons people would use Apple products despite numerous real-world scenarios says more about your lack of empathy and/or social skills" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWURFACEANDWOW 02/03/12 10:58:00 AM #116:	LMAO at the people saying confirm you are really standing up to conformist society and sticking it to the corporations! -- sess <cite>SAWURFACEANDWOW posted [p:743526] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> LMAO at the people saying confirmyou are really standing up to conformist society and sticking it to the corporations! -- sess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 02/03/12 11:03:00 AM #117:	Ayuyu bad news. -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." <cite>ZFS posted [p:743527] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> Ayuyu bad news. -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 02/03/12 11:05:00 AM #118:	Too late, iPod. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:743528] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> Too late, iPod. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SMOKEDOG42O 02/03/12 11:15:00 AM #119:	*SAWURFACEANDWOW posted...* LMAO at the people saying confirm you are really standing up to conformist society and sticking it to the corporations! The best post. -- "SMOKEDOG42O taught me how to feel love, but fetus taught me how to make love." - Pablo Escobar <cite>SMOKEDOG42O posted [p:743529] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> SAWURFACEANDWOW posted...LMAO at the people saying confirmyou are really standing up to conformist society and sticking it to the corporations!The best post. -- "SMOKEDOG42O taught me how to feel love, but fetus taught me how to make love." - Pablo Escobar </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalrusJump 02/03/12 11:16:00 AM #120:	D. my dell XPS 15 does everything I'd want in a computer and has great specs for under half the price of a comparable macbook pro, and I prefer my samsung galaxy sii to any iphone. the screen on that is massive. but the ipod classic is an excellent product. -- SuperNiceDog shoots the lights out <cite>WalrusJump posted [p:743530] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> D. my dell XPS 15 does everything I'd want in a computer and has great specs for under half the price of a comparable macbook pro, and I prefer my samsung galaxy sii to any iphone. the screen on that is massive.but the ipod classic is an excellent product. -- SuperNiceDog shoots the lights out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the icon ownz all 02/03/12 11:17:00 AM #121:	From: foolm0ron \| #111 As if macs aren't made in the same crappy factories as other computers. They're made in the same factory district and mostly by the same company (Foxconn), certainly, but the quality of the products inside an Apple are higher than, say, a Dell or an HP. Odds are, your Macbook is going to last longer than a laptop from those two companies as well. The point is that you can sacrifice insignificant things that aren't worth paying double for. Totally. I wouldn't say weight and battery life are insignificant, especially considering most laptops are sold to university students. Lugging around a 6 pound laptop all day to classes where you'll have to always keep an eye on how much battery life you have remaining can be a choir. If I was in the market for a laptop today, I would pay more money upfront so I wouldn't have to worry about either issue. Luckily, the market is going to be flooded with Ultrabooks, so maybe the price will eventually fall on thin, light laptops with SSD HDs and great battery life. It's not even like the software is a direct improvement. It's a preference thing. I personally hate iOS and its attempt to lock down and hide features of a system that is supposed to be very open (UNIX), and I much prefer the customizability of Windows and Linux. But tons of people love the locked down iOS system, because you can't accidentally break it. If given a choice between two equal laptops offered at an equal price, one an Air and the other an Ultrabook from Asus, I'd go with the Asus. I just like Windows more. So I'm with you here. I'm just not with you here: It's just annoying when "Mac people" get all pissy when you say that the price isn't worth it for the hardware. Some Apple products are certainly overpriced. iMacs, for example, or proprietary products, or low-end iPods. But other products (iPad, iPhone) are priced competitively, while still others (iPod Classic, the Macbook Air until now) fulfil needs that almost no other company does. It's not a case of 'everything is overpriced' or 'everything is worth it.' Apple are a company just like any other - some products are great, some aren't. -- ICON: Can I kick it? <cite>the icon ownz all posted [p:743531] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> From: foolm0ron \| #111As if macs aren't made in the same crappy factories as other computers.They're made in the same factory district and mostly by the same company (Foxconn), certainly, but the quality of the products inside an Apple are higher than, say, a Dell or an HP. Odds are, your Macbook is going to last longer than a laptop from those two companies as well.The point is that you can sacrifice insignificant things that aren't worth paying double for.Totally. I wouldn't say weight and battery life are insignificant, especially considering most laptops are sold to university students. Lugging around a 6 pound laptop all day to classes where you'll have to always keep an eye on how much battery life you have remaining can be a choir. If I was in the market for a laptop today, I would pay more money upfront so I wouldn't have to worry about either issue. Luckily, the market is going to be flooded with Ultrabooks, so maybe the price will eventually fall on thin, light laptops with SSD HDs and great battery life. It's not even like the software is a direct improvement. It's a preference thing. I personally hate iOS and its attempt to lock down and hide features of a system that is supposed to be very open (UNIX), and I much prefer the customizability of Windows and Linux. But tons of people love the locked down iOS system, because you can't accidentally break it.If given a choice between two equal laptops offered at an equal price, one an Air and the other an Ultrabook from Asus, I'd go with the Asus. I just like Windows more. So I'm with you here.I'm just not with you here:It's just annoying when "Mac people" get all pissy when you say that the price isn't worth it for the hardware.Some Apple products are certainly overpriced. iMacs, for example, or proprietary products, or low-end iPods. But other products (iPad, iPhone) are priced competitively, while still others (iPod Classic, the Macbook Air until now) fulfil needs that almost no other company does. It's not a case of 'everything is overpriced' or 'everything is worth it.' Apple are a company just like any other - some products are great, some aren't. -- ICON:Can I kick it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 02/03/12 11:21:00 AM #122:	I have an old iPod and no other interest in Apple products right now, but it's kind of stupid to say you would never buy one even if you think there's a principle to uphold. "Never" is a long time to commit to. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:743532] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> I have an old iPod and no other interest in Apple products right now, but it's kind of stupid to say you would never buy one even if you think there's a principle to uphold. "Never" is a long time to commit to. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 02/03/12 11:33:00 AM #123:	From: the icon ownz all \| #121 Odds are, your Macbook is going to last longer than a laptop from those two companies as well. Going by entirely by my experience, it's basically random how long your laptop will last. The point here is that you believe that a Mac will last longer. That matters way more than reality. I wouldn't say weight and battery life are insignificant They're not. You also don't need to sacrifice these to get a cheaper laptop. It's not a case of 'everything is overpriced' or 'everything is worth it.' Apple are a company just like any other - some products are great, some aren't. iPods are fairly priced and worth it, sure. Every other product they make I would call overpriced. Macbooks more than anything, but iPhones, iPads as well. iPads in particular are "competitively priced" but that's only because Apple created an environment where tablets have to be $500. That's a whole separate issue though. -- _foolmo_ 'To be foolmo'd is to be better opinion'd.' - Blairville <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:743533] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> From: the icon ownz all \| #121Odds are, your Macbook is going to last longer than a laptop from those two companies as well.Going by entirely by my experience, it's basically random how long your laptop will last. The point here is that you believe that a Mac will last longer. That matters way more than reality.I wouldn't say weight and battery life are insignificantThey're not. You also don't need to sacrifice these to get a cheaper laptop.It's not a case of 'everything is overpriced' or 'everything is worth it.' Apple are a company just like any other - some products are great, some aren't.iPods are fairly priced and worth it, sure. Every other product they make I would call overpriced. Macbooks more than anything, but iPhones, iPads as well. iPads in particular are "competitively priced" but that's only because Apple created an environment where tablets have to be $500. That's a whole separate issue though. -- _foolmo_'To be foolmo'd is to be better opinion'd.' - Blairville </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 02/03/12 11:34:00 AM #124:	I have an old iPod and no other interest in Apple products right now, but it's kind of stupid to say you would never buy one even if you think there's a principle to uphold. "Never" is a long time to commit to. I didn't say I wouldn't based on principle but I don't see how principle wouldn't be a legitimate reason, if you really have a problem with the way a company does business it's only natural to avoid giving them your money isn't it? <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:743534] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> I have an old iPod and no other interest in Apple products right now, but it's kind of stupid to say you would never buy one even if you think there's a principle to uphold. "Never" is a long time to commit to.I didn't say I wouldn't based on principle but I don't see how principle wouldn't be a legitimate reason, if you really have a problem with the way a company does business it's only natural to avoid giving them your money isn't it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 02/04/12 5:21:00 PM #125:	came into this topic again to see how it went and time out a sec. But other products (iPad, iPhone) are priced competitively, and here is where a resounding "No." is heard. the iphone is very overpriced. it's "competitive" in the sense that there phones priced at similar levels. it's not in the sense of phones better than it can be gotten for less regularly. the 4s is 'competitively priced' against products that beat it in every single category. ditto for the 3s (which is a joke these days - i can get a $70-100 phone that's better in comparison) and the 4. it's the same trend that goes with 'em all. they initially start somewhere around the same level, but android constantly upgrades hardware and what used to be competitive drops quickly in price. apple's prices don't drop however. the ipad 2 meanwhile is an incredibly overpriced piece of hardware. cheaper tablets that do everything it does with many more features can be gotten for less. hell, you don't even need to lurk further than the Transformer Prime, which is the current king of tablets by miles. priced how much? $100 less. the samsung galaxy tab could also be gotten for less, and is also better. or we can simply point to what asus recently announced: the will be releasing a 7" tablet with a Tegra 3 processor in it and 1GB of RAM for $250. the tablet market in general is an overpriced field, and asus is out to prove it. things used to be near the cost (when the original Transformer launched it was barely breaking even - though note that even it had more functions than either ipad), but that isn't the case anymore. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:743535] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> came into this topic again to see how it went and time out a sec.But other products (iPad, iPhone) are priced competitively, and here is where a resounding"No."is heard.the iphone is very overpriced. it's "competitive" in the sense that there phones priced at similar levels. it's not in the sense of phones better than it can be gotten for less regularly. the 4s is 'competitively priced' against products that beat it in every single category. ditto for the 3s (which is a joke these days - i can get a $70-100 phone that's better in comparison) and the 4. it's the same trend that goes with 'em all. they initially start somewhere around the same level, but android constantly upgrades hardware and what used to be competitive drops quickly in price. apple's prices don't drop however. the ipad 2 meanwhile is an incredibly overpriced piece of hardware. cheaper tablets that do everything it does with many more features can be gotten for less. hell, you don't even need to lurk further than the Transformer Prime, which is the current king of tablets by miles. priced how much? $100 less. the samsung galaxy tab could also be gotten for less, and is also better. or we can simply point to what asus recently announced:the will be releasing a 7" tablet with a Tegra 3 processor in it and 1GB of RAM for $250. the tablet market in general is an overpriced field, and asus is out to prove it. things used to be near the cost (when the original Transformer launched it was barely breaking even - though note that even it had more functions than either ipad), but that isn't the case anymore. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 02/05/12 10:22:00 AM #126:	and here is where a resounding "No." is heard. the iphone is very overpriced. it's "competitive" in the sense that there phones priced at similar levels. it's not in the sense of phones better than it can be gotten for less regularly. the 4s is 'competitively priced' against products that beat it in every single category. ditto for the 3s (which is a joke these days - i can get a $70-100 phone that's better in comparison) and the 4. it's the same trend that goes with 'em all. they initially start somewhere around the same level, but android constantly upgrades hardware and what used to be competitive drops quickly in price. apple's prices don't drop however. the ipad 2 meanwhile is an incredibly overpriced piece of hardware. cheaper tablets that do everything it does with many more features can be gotten for less. hell, you don't even need to lurk further than the Transformer Prime, which is the current king of tablets by miles. priced how much? $100 less. the samsung galaxy tab could also be gotten for less, and is also better. or we can simply point to what asus recently announced: the will be releasing a 7" tablet with a Tegra 3 processor in it and 1GB of RAM for $250. the tablet market in general is an overpriced field, and asus is out to prove it. things used to be near the cost (when the original Transformer launched it was barely breaking even - though note that even it had more functions than either ipad), but that isn't the case anymore. yeah but it just works <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:743536] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> and here is where a resounding"No."is heard.the iphone is very overpriced. it's "competitive" in the sense that there phones priced at similar levels. it's not in the sense of phones better than it can be gotten for less regularly. the 4s is 'competitively priced' against products that beat it in every single category. ditto for the 3s (which is a joke these days - i can get a $70-100 phone that's better in comparison) and the 4. it's the same trend that goes with 'em all. they initially start somewhere around the same level, but android constantly upgrades hardware and what used to be competitive drops quickly in price. apple's prices don't drop however.the ipad 2 meanwhile is an incredibly overpriced piece of hardware. cheaper tablets that do everything it does with many more features can be gotten for less. hell, you don't even need to lurk further than the Transformer Prime, which is the current king of tablets by miles. priced how much? $100 less. the samsung galaxy tab could also be gotten for less, and is also better.or we can simply point to what asus recently announced:the will be releasing a 7" tablet with a Tegra 3 processor in it and 1GB of RAM for $250. the tablet market in general is an overpriced field, and asus is out to prove it. things used to be near the cost (when the original Transformer launched it was barely breaking even - though note that even it had more functions than either ipad), but that isn't the case anymore.yeah but it just works </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zachnorn 02/05/12 1:04:00 PM #127:	Liquid Wind, you forgot one key thing. It just works. Seamlessly. http://www.humblebundle.com/ But yeah it's just like saying windows has more software than mac. More market share = more software. So...we agree? -- Everything is overrated - <D <cite>Zachnorn posted [p:743537] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> Liquid Wind, you forgot one key thing.It just works. Seamlessly. http://www.humblebundle.com/But yeah it's just like saying windows has more software than mac. More market share = more software.So...we agree? -- Everything is overrated - <D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 02/05/12 1:45:00 PM #128:	you do realize the windows/mac argument doesn't really work seeing how android has a good 3x+ the marketshare as ios, right. ios is very unusual in that it holds similar numbers to android in terms of apps, but then again it's relatively easy to inflate those values. split basically goes android with around 55-60%, symbian with around 14-16%, ios with around 15-17%, blackberry with around 10-12%, and everything else is everything else. symbian used to be 2 until nokia bailed, but you can expect microsoft and android to fill that void up. ios hasn't really grown much, android's the explosive one and the undeniable king of that field against everything else combined. apple isn't even the no. 1 phone creator in the world, that's samsung now. they ain't exactly winning in these fields. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:743538] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> you do realize the windows/mac argument doesn't really work seeing how android has a good 3x+ the marketshare as ios, right. ios is very unusual in that it holds similar numbers to android in terms of apps, but then again it's relatively easy to inflate those values. split basically goes android with around 55-60%, symbian with around 14-16%, ios with around 15-17%, blackberry with around 10-12%, and everything else is everything else. symbian used to be 2 until nokia bailed, but you can expect microsoft and android to fill that void up. ios hasn't really grown much, android's the explosive one and the undeniable king of that field against everything else combined. apple isn't even the no. 1 phone creator in the world, that's samsung now. they ain't exactly winning in these fields. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zachnorn 02/05/12 1:53:00 PM #129:	you do realize the windows/mac argument doesn't really work seeing how android has a good 3x+ the marketshare as ios, right. I heard that Android recently passed iOS in market share and was outselling the iPhone, but I have not heard anything about it having 3 times the market share. Source? ios is very unusual in that it holds similar numbers to android in terms of apps, but then again it's relatively easy to inflate those values. I can see why iOS would have a similar/larger number of apps. Android really became popular a few years after the iPhone was released. -- Everything is overrated. - <D http://board8.wikia.com - Board 8 Wiki <cite>Zachnorn posted [p:743539] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> you do realize the windows/mac argument doesn't really work seeing how android has a good 3x+ the marketshare as ios, right.I heard that Android recently passed iOS in market share and was outselling the iPhone, but I have not heard anything about it having 3 times the market share. Source?ios is very unusual in that it holds similar numbers to android in terms of apps, but then again it's relatively easy to inflate those values. I can see why iOS would have a similar/larger number of apps. Android really became popular a few years after the iPhone was released. -- Everything is overrated. - <Dhttp://board8.wikia.com - Board 8 Wiki </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 02/05/12 2:20:00 PM #130:	nothing recent about it. the more recent news is that apple has put a good dent into android in the US market but android's still the leader. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57371030-37/apples-smartphone-share-rises-but-android-still-on-top/ most recent article i could find. just note that in september and through november android actually was over 55%. http://www.dailytech.com/Android+Market+Share+Reaches+56+Percent+RIMs+Microsofts+Cut+in+Half/article22852.htm being under 50 hasn't happened in about a year. it's really, really not even close. globally android murders everyone else. the US also is basically android 1st, ios 2nd, and usually it's by a comfortable margin. this holiday season was closer with ios breaking 40 but google still ahead of it. wait until the quarter results and you'll see android back over 50% and ios down in the 30s again. edit: still, while in 2011 they managed to go 3x they're now looking at around 2x. which is still a pretty huge gap anyway. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:743540] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> nothing recent about it. the more recent news is that apple has put a good dent into android in the US market but android's still the leader.http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57371030-37/apples-smartphone-share-rises-but-android-still-on-top/most recent article i could find. just note that in september and through november android actually was over 55%. http://www.dailytech.com/Android+Market+Share+Reaches+56+Percent+RIMs+Microsofts+Cut+in+Half/article22852.htmbeing under 50 hasn't happened in about a year. it's really, really not even close. globally android murders everyone else. the US also is basically android 1st, ios 2nd, and usually it's by a comfortable margin. this holiday season was closer with ios breaking 40 but google still ahead of it. wait until the quarter results and you'll see android back over 50% and ios down in the 30s again.edit: still, while in 2011 they managed to go 3x they're now looking at around 2x. which is still a pretty huge gap anyway. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommodoreTN 02/05/12 2:23:00 PM #131:	D -- Commodore http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad258/CommodoreTN/commodorepngdy.png <cite>CommodoreTN posted [p:743541] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> D -- Commodorehttp://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad258/CommodoreTN/commodorepngdy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 02/05/12 2:25:00 PM #132:	From: Liquid Wind \| #124 I didn't say I wouldn't based on principle but I don't see how principle wouldn't be a legitimate reason, if you really have a problem with the way a company does business it's only natural to avoid giving them your money isn't it? My point is that even if you are withholding money based on the way the company acts, "never" assumes they will never change. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:743542] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #124I didn't say I wouldn't based on principle but I don't see how principle wouldn't be a legitimate reason, if you really have a problem with the way a company does business it's only natural to avoid giving them your money isn't it?My point is that even if you are withholding money based on the way the company acts, "never" assumes they will never change. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FashnQueenEtna 02/05/12 2:29:00 PM #133:	When apple stops forcing people to use itunes, suports a wider range of file formats, is priced competitively for all products they make, and stops with their rather tightlipped business and development practices...maybe, -- Chrono1219 <cite>FashnQueenEtna posted [p:743543] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> When apple stops forcing people to use itunes, suports a wider range of file formats, is priced competitively for all products they make, and stops with their rather tightlipped business and development practices...maybe, -- Chrono1219 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 02/05/12 2:37:00 PM #134:	and note that the cnet article focuses on the quarter there. yearly reports show a bigger gap between 'em actually, though those are harder to find. the closest thing was really the november results which had some people thinking apple would finally overtake them for a quarter (that's where both were in the 40s) but instead the winter quarter was still with a bigger gain for android. so yeah. no matter how you slice it, globally, US only, quarterly, yearly, android has been killing everyone else. and it's a trend that's gonna get worse as we move on due to the tablet market starting to get seriously invaded, spearheaded by asus no less. but don't make one mistake: the king of profits is still apple. just that the king of smartphones is google. and tablets can get combined into that, the winner is still google, comfortably. apple makes more money, google sells more product. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:743544] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> and note that the cnet article focuses on the quarter there. yearly reports show a bigger gap between 'em actually, though those are harder to find. the closest thing was really the november results which had some people thinking apple would finally overtake them for a quarter (that's where both were in the 40s) but instead the winter quarter was still with a bigger gain for android. so yeah. no matter how you slice it, globally, US only, quarterly, yearly, android has been killing everyone else. and it's a trend that's gonna get worse as we move on due to the tablet market starting to get seriously invaded, spearheaded by asus no less. but don't make one mistake: the king of profits is still apple. just that the king of smartphones is google. and tablets can get combined into that, the winner is still google, comfortably. apple makes more money, google sells more product. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadosneko 02/05/12 3:28:00 PM #135:	C -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko <cite>shadosneko posted [p:743545] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> C -- http://backloggery.com/shadoshttp://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0ron 02/05/12 3:31:00 PM #136:	Damn I had no idea Android was growing so quickly. A year ago it definitely didn't have the top market share. -- _foolmo_ 'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 <cite>foolm0ron posted [p:743546] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> Damn I had no idea Android was growing so quickly. A year ago it definitely didn't have the top market share. -- _foolmo_'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScepterOfLove 02/05/12 3:37:00 PM #137:	D Anyone who said C is missing out tbh -- "Yet here we are, shaking our booties..." <cite>ScepterOfLove posted [p:743547] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> DAnyone who said C is missing out tbh -- "Yet here we are, shaking our booties..." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sakurafanboy 02/05/12 3:51:00 PM #138:	But an apple a day keeps the doctor away! ): oh, not that apple? C then -- Team Gracidea - We live to love! Proud fan of all that is Shaymin! <cite>Sakurafanboy posted [p:743548] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> But an apple a day keeps the doctor away! ):oh, not that apple? C then -- Team Gracidea - We live to love!Proud fan of all that is Shaymin! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadosneko 02/05/12 3:58:00 PM #139:	From: ScepterOfLove \| #137 D Anyone who said C is missing out tbh Missing out on what, exactly? -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko <cite>shadosneko posted [p:743549] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> From: ScepterOfLove \| #137DAnyone who said C is missing out tbhMissing out on what, exactly? -- http://backloggery.com/shadoshttp://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 02/05/12 4:08:00 PM #140:	a year ago i think it did actually, but it was very close. android just basically doubled in the course of a year, and doubled the year before that. the growth it's had has been something out of this world and for a brief period of time it was fielding 60% of new activations. seriously, it's nuts. that's why i personally found it entertaining when guys like square were saying 'YEAH WE'LL DO IPHONE GAMES!' because they were saying that square in the middle of android skyrocketing. they basically missed the right one to back then, but now they're doing it all android too. windows has a tough road ahead of it, but nokia's a very strong supporter to have. i can easily see windows take a good 7% of symbian's stuff on its own and mooch off rim's decline as well to get itself some 10-12% of the market by this time next year. nokia just needs to step it up, and they're doing so. from there it's down to MS and Windows 8. that's their game changer, not 7. thing is if they do it right and they get enough support, they could double those figures and become No. 2. this year's mostly about android running away in all fields (ice cream sandwich will help on the firmware - no more division of what version of android you're using), Windows trying to break out, and Apple being profit monsters despite their marketshare. they're the most ??? of the three, with their focus now going to international markets as they can't compete with the US anymore; even with a stellar holiday season they couldn't beat android's growth in that quarter. thing is, south korea and japan are heavily android places. especially the former - that's Samsung. good luck with that. the Note's a success over there and that is a 5.3" screen. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:743550] in C/D You wi... [t:61838353]...</cite> <quote> a year ago i think it did actually, but it was very close. android just basically doubled in the course of a year, and doubled the year before that. the growth it's had has been something out of this world and for a brief period of time it was fielding 60% of new activations. seriously, it's nuts. that's why i personally found it entertaining when guys like square were saying 'YEAH WE'LL DO IPHONE GAMES!' because they were saying that square in the middle of android skyrocketing. they basically missed the right one to back then, but now they're doing it all android too. windows has a tough road ahead of it, but nokia's a very strong supporter to have. i can easily see windows take a good 7% of symbian's stuff on its own and mooch off rim's decline as well to get itself some 10-12% of the market by this time next year. nokia just needs to step it up, and they're doing so.from there it's down to MS and Windows 8. that's their game changer, not 7. thing is if they do it right and they get enough support, they could double those figures and become No. 2. this year's mostly about android running away in all fields (ice cream sandwich will help on the firmware - no more division of what version of android you're using), Windows trying to break out, and Apple being profit monsters despite their marketshare. they're the most ??? of the three, with their focus now going to international markets as they can't compete with the US anymore; even with a stellar holiday season they couldn't beat android's growth in that quarter. thing is, south korea and japan are heavily android places. especially the former - that's Samsung. good luck with that. the Note's a success over there and that is a 5.3" screen. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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