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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:29:00 PM
#251:


No, Jackson James/Garrett Bischoff wasn't brought in until the Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Morgan feud.

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:30:00 PM
#252:


From: JaKyL25 | #251
No, Jackson James/Garrett Bischoff wasn't brought in until the Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Morgan feud.


Are you sure about that? I thought he'd been around for awhile. Wasn't he the one who got a implied BJ from Madison in order to get the BP a win at some ppv?

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Viktor Vaughn
12/17/11 10:31:00 PM
#253:


From: ExThaNemesis | #250
Thinking about coming back to wrestling in the new year.

But having those two hours on Monday nights for other stuff has been kinda nice.


realtalk: it's not worth coming back

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:31:00 PM
#254:


From: TimJab | #249
i got that much

but what i'm saying is, if it were chikara, you'd go back and discover that jackson james did in fact ref the match and your head would asplode


No, because my faith in TNA is so little that even if it HAD been Jackson James reffing that match, I'd just dismiss it as them getting really lucky rather than having brilliantly planned an angle so far in advance.

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:31:00 PM
#255:


From: TimJab | #249
i got that much

but what i'm saying is, if it were chikara, you'd go back and discover that jackson james did in fact ref the match and your head would asplode


That's actually what TNA kind of tried to do.

There was a series of Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Morgan matches that kept getting botched by rookie ref Jackson James, always to the advantage of Bischoff and Hogan's chosen Champion, Jeff Hardy.

He then continued on after that to be a regular ref for a year, but then a YEAR LATER we find out that he is really Garrett Bischoff, Eric Bischoff's son, and he's been a plant for them this whole time.

And then he turns on them.

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TimJab
12/17/11 10:31:00 PM
#256:


From: SmartMuffin | #252
Are you sure about that? I thought he'd been around for awhile. Wasn't he the one who got a implied BJ from Madison in order to get the BP a win at some ppv?


that was slick whatshisname

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TimJab
12/17/11 10:32:00 PM
#257:


From: JaKyL25 | #255
And then he turns on them.


XFD

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:33:00 PM
#258:


From: SmartMuffin | #252
Are you sure about that? I thought he'd been around for awhile. Wasn't he the one who got a implied BJ from Madison in order to get the BP a win at some ppv?


I just double-checked to be sure, it was Brian Hebner.

And the referee who messed around with Madison Rayne was Slick Johnson, the bald ref who used to wear shorts in the ring.

I remember some goddamn useless trivia sometimes.

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:33:00 PM
#259:


TIMJAB'D

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:34:00 PM
#260:



There was a series of Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Morgan matches that kept getting botched by rookie ref Jackson James, always to the advantage of Bischoff and Hogan's chosen Champion, Jeff Hardy.

He then continued on after that to be a regular ref for a year, but then a YEAR LATER we find out that he is really Garrett Bischoff, Eric Bischoff's son, and he's been a plant for them this whole time.


You forgot the part where "rookie ref who is only known for screwing things up" somehow mysteriously kept being assigned to really important matches including title matches.

Although I think at least once they justified that by saying that Matt Morgan WANTED him to ref his rematch in order to give him a chance to redeem himself or something.

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TimJab
12/17/11 10:34:00 PM
#261:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:35:00 PM
#262:


So I guess as soon as that whole thing was revealed, the only person who really suffered and had a reason to feel stupid was Matt Morgan, who has also never even sniffed the main event again since that whole deal.

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:35:00 PM
#263:


Any trivia relating to Madison is FAR from useless!

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TimJab
12/17/11 10:36:00 PM
#264:


From: SmartMuffin | #263
Any trivia relating to Madison is FAR from useless!


especially trivia relating to madison having sex

only reason i remembered it

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:36:00 PM
#265:


From: SmartMuffin | #262
So I guess as soon as that whole thing was revealed, the only person who really suffered and had a reason to feel stupid was Matt Morgan, who has also never even sniffed the main event again since that whole deal.


I think Garrett Bischoff should feel stupid for having that ridiculous BISCHOFF tattoo.

But otherwise yes.

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:39:00 PM
#266:


I think Garrett Bischoff should feel stupid for having that ridiculous BISCHOFF tattoo.

Do we know that it's real? When I first saw it I was like "oh they're so faking that just to try and convince us he's REALLY bischoff's son"

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:41:00 PM
#267:


You know, I always assumed it was fake, I never even bothered to actually check whether or not he really was Eric's son. I just now learned that he is!

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:42:00 PM
#268:


LOL Wikipedia

* Signature Moves
o Arm drag[7]
o Hip Toss[7]
o Back Bodydrop[7]
o Bulldog
o Faceplant


Could you BE any more generic?

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ScareChan
12/17/11 10:43:00 PM
#269:


Slick Johnson was the best ref. I remember there was some match and it had a big spot and he just stood there like a deer in the headlights that just **** its pants with its mouth open because how awesome it was


Where would I go to check out Chikara? I have seen a couple of vids on youtube but I would want to like really watch it and get caught up with everything.

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:43:00 PM
#270:


Is that for Garrett? What is it even based upon, his two matches with Gunner? Has he served any time in any indies or anything?

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:44:00 PM
#271:


Wiki has absolutely no info on him before his debut as Jackson James, so I presume that's based solely upon his matches with Gunner!

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:46:00 PM
#272:


Well, keep in mind the storyline was "He's a ref with no wrestling training whatsoever" so it would make sense that he only knows how to pull off ridiculously generic moves!

Although I think they were a little TOO surprised that he was able to execute any offense at all. I mean, surely being in a wrestling wring and carefully observing matches you'd learn SOMETHING. I think his first move was a hip-toss and Taz and Tenay freaked out as if he had just split the atom or something.

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TimJab
12/17/11 10:47:00 PM
#273:


Yesssssss that gives me an opportunity to post my favorite thing from a wrestler's Wiki page. This is coming from Roderick Strong's:

Trained by :
Jim Neidhart[3]
The Warlord[3]
Prince Iaukea[3]
Tim Mahoney
His dad[3]


XD gets me every time. How the hell did he become such a good wrestler? The Anvil, two awful wrestlers, some guy named Tim Mahoney, and then his dad. I guess his inability to cut promos makes sense now. Taught by Prince Iaukea!

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:47:00 PM
#274:


From: ScareChan | #269
Where would I go to check out Chikara? I have seen a couple of vids on youtube but I would want to like really watch it and get caught up with everything.


Tim might be able to direct you to a specific event to try out, but in general I would suggest just starting with their 11th Season Premiere, The Thirteenth Hat, in January once it comes out on DVD.

There really isn't a lot of opportunity to "try before you buy" with CHIKARA, at least when it comes to full events or matches.

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:49:00 PM
#275:


From: SmartMuffin | #272
Well, keep in mind the storyline was "He's a ref with no wrestling training whatsoever" so it would make sense that he only knows how to pull off ridiculously generic moves!


Well I guess I'm more amused that someone actually bothered to fill out a Wikipedia entry with that moveset, and then listed them as "signature moves."

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TimJab
12/17/11 10:51:00 PM
#276:


From: ScareChan | #269
Where would I go to check out Chikara? I have seen a couple of vids on youtube but I would want to like really watch it and get caught up with everything.


I have to recommend you buy DVDs to support the company. You can buy the 2011 Yearbook as well and catch up on the entire company history. Buy a King of Trios DVD! Any one will do.

EDIT: Jakyl's suggestion is good too. They're currently on hiatus until the end of January when a new season begins, so you can just read the Yearbook and then a synopsis of the 2011 season to catch up and then watch Season 11 as it happens.

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 11:02:00 PM
#277:


Someone snapped a pic of the WWE merch stands at house shows this weekend, featuring an interesting new shirt.

external image

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TimJab
12/17/11 11:06:00 PM
#278:


why does it say "we can't see you" on the front

isn't that what he wants you to do

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 11:09:00 PM
#279:


I think that's the back.

And it's a No sign over top of him going You Can't See Me, as kind of a contrast to the red shirt on the far right.

So it's kinda saying "We can't can't see you."

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ScareChan
12/17/11 11:25:00 PM
#280:


I am pretty sure that is the idea I had a while ago back when I was trying to promote a Cena and Kennedy feud >_>

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JaKyL25
12/18/11 7:57:00 AM
#281:


Judo Gene LeBell was a judge last night at the Strikeforce card.

Too bad no one won with the LEBELL LOCK.

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JaKyL25
12/18/11 8:32:00 AM
#282:


Cena comments on WWE now selling the "Cena Sucks" shirts:

JohnCena John Cena
They have wanted too since 2008. I told them no. Finally I just said I dont care. Im fine with the way things are. Some like me. Some don't.


Interesting.

Also, LOL: external image
Nice job, WWE and Post.

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SmartMuffin
12/18/11 9:58:00 AM
#283:


WHERE ARE THE DAMN CM PUNK ICE CREAM BARS :(

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JaKyL25
12/18/11 10:25:00 AM
#284:


Hey, the Fruity Pebbles thing is a meme from back in February and it's just now being realized.

Ice Cream Bars is from July!

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Sir Cobain
12/18/11 10:33:00 AM
#285:


Let's not forget that Garrett Bischoff was taught karate by Ernest "The Cat" Miller

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/18/11 11:25:00 AM
#286:


So... Cena never cared what we think, but he refused to let Cena Sucks shirts be sold?

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/18/11 11:34:00 AM
#287:




Uh, I think that Reks and Hawkins may want to get fired.

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XIII_rocks
12/18/11 11:38:00 AM
#288:


what on earth.

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JaKyL25
12/18/11 11:45:00 AM
#289:


Matt Hardy managed to get his release by uploading a video of unmasked Rey, putting a picture of Benoit in your webtoon is like five steps above that. <_<

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TimJab
12/18/11 12:16:00 PM
#290:


wait tyler reks and curt hawkins actually make those videos?

because they're giving themselves way too much credit by calling themselves the midcard mafia

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JaKyL25
12/18/11 12:17:00 PM
#291:


Yep, and that's really JTG, and the first episode it was really Tyson Kidd. They even mentioned it on NXT last week.

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Viktor Vaughn
12/18/11 12:24:00 PM
#292:


i don't think that video is going to help them with their heat problem

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Tom Bombadil
12/18/11 1:37:00 PM
#293:


oh they'll get heat alright

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JaKyL25
12/18/11 2:14:00 PM
#294:


Jakyl Fun Fact

Tonight is the third TLC PPV. Neither of the previous two TLCs has been main-evented by a World Title match (DX vs. JeriShow in '09, Cena vs. Barrett in '10).

In that vein, expect Nash vs. Trips to headline tonight. <_<

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/18/11 2:16:00 PM
#295:


I don't think even Trips and Nash are that conceited. They have barely even promoted their match at all, and-

What the hell, did I just say that I don't think Trips and Nash are that conceited?

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JaKyL25
12/18/11 2:17:00 PM
#296:


WWE_Creative WWE Creative
Booker T? Kevin Nash? Did we accidentally book Slamboree? #FurniturePPV

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entropyx
12/18/11 2:23:00 PM
#297:


I think Booker/Cody could be motn

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JaKyL25
12/18/11 2:33:00 PM
#298:


Another Jakyl Fun Fact:

Every match on the card tonight features at least one former World Champion.

In fact, everyone on the card tonight is a former/current World Champion except Barrett, Cody, and Ryder.

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GTM
12/18/11 2:34:00 PM
#299:


any match could be motn

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GTM
12/18/11 2:34:00 PM
#300:


er except show/henry

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