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TimJab
12/17/11 3:49:00 PM
#201:


From: TheRock1525 | #193
I've got two words for you: The Rock.


Ironically, DX is another example.

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 3:49:00 PM
#202:


XIII_rocks posted...
...but Punk was probably about to win before Vince came out >_>

Except, he wasn't.

Escaping the Cena STF a third time would be a feat never to happen in WWE history.

Of course, we're arguing Kayfabe-wise, but Cena was in control and Vince ended up screwing it up. It was a way to make Cena's loss look not fully legitimate while making Punk's win more legitimate than had he cheated. It was "clean-ish" as it were.

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 3:50:00 PM
#203:


Of course, we're arguing Kayfabe-wise, but Cena was in control and Vince ended up screwing it up. It was a way to make Cena's loss look not fully legitimate while making Punk's win more legitimate than had he cheated. It was "clean-ish" as it were.

Yep, this exactly. They didn't want FULL ON cheating, but they sure as hell weren't about to let Cena just quite simply get pinned with no shenanigans, either.

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 3:50:00 PM
#204:


I JUST told you what happened before Vince came out and momentarily distracted Punk >_>

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 3:51:00 PM
#205:


And honestly the worst thing for me was SummerSlam when Cena had his foot on the rope.

I mean, barely anything was made of it afterwards. It was just to sell HHH as having made a dumb mistake by making himself guest ref and to stop Cena losing clean. Very lame.

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 3:52:00 PM
#206:


When was the last time Cena was pinned one-on-one with no shenanigans?

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 3:53:00 PM
#207:


We also were just talking about that

HHH vs. Cena on the Raw before Bragging Rights 09

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TimJab
12/17/11 3:53:00 PM
#208:


rock did you read any posts before joining this discussion

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 3:54:00 PM
#209:


No I didn't, as I was talking about a discussion on the first page when I came in.

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 3:55:00 PM
#210:


ah. reposted for your benefit:


Cena tries AA off the top, Punk counters into Frankensteiner, knees him, GTS' Cena but he flies through the middle rope and out of the ring. Punk throws him back in the ring, Vince appears, distracts him and gives Cena time to recover. Punk runs back in, Cena does an STF, and you know how it goes from there.

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 3:59:00 PM
#211:


This, of course, assuming that Cena DOESN'T kick out of the GTS. Especially with a decent amount of time to recover.

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 4:03:00 PM
#212:


Oh yeah, that's why I said probably.

But Cena also only *probably* had the match won with the STF. >_>

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 4:05:00 PM
#213:


Except a third STF is guaranteed victory.

Was that the first GTS of the match? I don't remember.

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 4:06:00 PM
#214:


It was the first GTS but it was in the ribs.

And many would have said a second Attitude Adjustment was a guaranteed victory or a second STF was.

I mean I thought Cena had it on the FIRST AA, so when he hit the second I was already cursing.

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 4:06:00 PM
#215:


Which makes it all the more improbable that a third STF wouldn't get the job done!

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edwardsdv
12/17/11 4:09:00 PM
#216:


It was the first one that fully connected

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 4:11:00 PM
#217:


Yeah, but at that point you're in uncharted territory. When you're dealing with somebody who's already pushed the boundaries of withstanding Cena's stuff, you can't say he's definitely not going to withstand even more.

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 4:12:00 PM
#218:


But if you were to created a probabilities chart, you'd definitely say "First GTS" is more escapable than "third Cena STF."

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 4:15:00 PM
#219:


The GTS Punk pinned Cena with is the first he actually hit properly. The one that pushed Cena out of the ring was only in the ribs.

You're right abut probabilities, though, yeah.

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GTM
12/17/11 4:20:00 PM
#220:


third STF never happen if it wasnt for Vince

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Panthera
12/17/11 5:53:00 PM
#221:


From: TheRock1525 | #218
But if you were to created a probabilities chart, you'd definitely say "First GTS" is more escapable than "third Cena STF."


Third STF only happens as it did because of Vince, otherwise Punk gets Cena back in the ring, Cena kicks out at 2, and things go from there, there isn't a third STF unless it's attempted by a Cena who *hasn't* just had an extra thirty seconds of recovery courtesy of Vince.

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 7:15:00 PM
#222:


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KommunistKoala
12/17/11 7:20:00 PM
#223:


that is quite possibly the worst image I've ever seen in my life

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Panthera
12/17/11 7:23:00 PM
#224:


I am far beyond merely having no idea as to what the hell is going on in that picture

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 7:24:00 PM
#225:


If you'd been following advent calendar you would know

I make a pic of a different b8 subculture each day. With a couple of exceptions (AlecTrevelyan demanding testicles, for instance).

and it is hilariously terrible yes.

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 7:25:00 PM
#226:


Panthera posted...
From: TheRock1525 | #218
But if you were to created a probabilities chart, you'd definitely say "First GTS" is more escapable than "third Cena STF."
Third STF only happens as it did because of Vince, otherwise Punk gets Cena back in the ring, Cena kicks out at 2, and things go from there, there isn't a third STF unless it's attempted by a Cena who *hasn't* just had an extra thirty seconds of recovery courtesy of Vince.

You are clearly discounting the Cena Superman factor, which is so long as he's not down for the three count, he can always summon up the strength to get back into any match.

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TimJab
12/17/11 7:33:00 PM
#227:


if i had a young daughter make that picture in her preschool class and bring it home to me, i would drown her in the sink

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TheRock1525
12/17/11 7:34:00 PM
#228:


TimJab, if you had a daughter you wouldn't even need to drown her. Just take away her inhaler.

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 7:36:00 PM
#229:


TimJab posted...
if i had a young daughter make that picture in her preschool class and bring it home to me, i would drown her in the sink

Your words hurt :(

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ScareChan
12/17/11 7:41:00 PM
#230:


Argh whats the card for tomorrow. I probably wont be around but I am curious as to a couple of the matches. You have the 3 most relevant MITB winners of recent memory in a ladder match, but I dont know if its enough to buy the ppv to watch when I get home

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XIII_rocks
12/17/11 7:46:00 PM
#231:


Dolph/Zack
Cody/Booker
Show/Henry - chair
Orton/Wade - table
HHH/Nash - sledgehammer ladder match
Punk/Adr/Miz - TLC

And divas prolly

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Haguile
12/17/11 7:48:00 PM
#232:


Dolph/Zack=LET'S GO RYDER!
Cody/Booker=WOOOAAAAAH.
Show/Henry=SOMEBODY IS GONNA GET THEIR WIGS SPLIT
Orton/Wade=LET'S GO HARRY POTTER!
HHH/Nash=LET'S GO QUADS!
Punk/Adr/Miz=LET'S GO MIZ!(...What?)

I like the card overall. I mean I could do without HHH/Nash but I really want to see that if only because of how hilarious that sounds.

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ScareChan
12/17/11 8:01:00 PM
#233:


Man thats a solid card but I dont know if I can drop money since I know I'll get the rumble and Mania

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ScareChan
12/17/11 8:02:00 PM
#234:


Also if I were a big TNA guy and ordered their last PPV I would be pretty pissed that my 30 minute main event ends in a draw and I get the real ending on tv for free.

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TimJab
12/17/11 8:11:00 PM
#235:


From: TheRock1525 | #228
TimJab, if you had a daughter you wouldn't even need to drown her. Just take away her inhaler.


is asthma hereditary?

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 8:15:00 PM
#236:


From: ScareChan | #234
Also if I were a big TNA guy and ordered their last PPV I would be pretty pissed that my 30 minute main event ends in a draw and I get the real ending on tv for free.


Pretty sure almost the exact same thing happened the last time TNA tried to do an iron man match, so it shouldn't be too surprising!

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ScareChan
12/17/11 9:08:00 PM
#237:


That's terrible

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:04:00 PM
#238:


IIRC, the last time they tried an iron man was in a semi-final match in a WHC tournament featuring Jeff Hardy vs Kurt Angle (keep in mind this tournament was for the title that RVD vacated due to injury, but would not be awarded again until the same PPV in which RVD returned from injury).

If I have this right, the match went 30 minutes to a time limit draw, at which point they were given FIVE MORE MINUTES which also ended in a draw, so they were given FIVE MORE MINUTES AGAIN and that ended in a draw, so they just called it a draw and ended the PPV.

Then they had another one-fall match that also ended in a draw (or no-contest maybe) so they just said **** it and made the eventual tournament finals a triple threat with Angle, Hardy, and Anderson (who legit won his semifinal match).

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ScareChan
12/17/11 10:19:00 PM
#239:


From: SmartMuffin | #238
IIRC, the last time they tried an iron man was in a semi-final match in a WHC tournament featuring Jeff Hardy vs Kurt Angle (keep in mind this tournament was for the title that RVD vacated due to injury, but would not be awarded again until the same PPV in which RVD returned from injury).

If I have this right, the match went 30 minutes to a time limit draw, at which point they were given FIVE MORE MINUTES which also ended in a draw, so they were given FIVE MORE MINUTES AGAIN and that ended in a draw, so they just called it a draw and ended the PPV.

Then they had another one-fall match that also ended in a draw (or no-contest maybe) so they just said **** it and made the eventual tournament finals a triple threat with Angle, Hardy, and Anderson (who legit won his semifinal match).




I think I remember that. But didn't Anderson go last on that card? I kinda remember them going to a draw and then saying "It's a draw, does this mean whoever wins Anderson vs (whoever) they win the title tonight?"

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:20:00 PM
#240:


That wasn't an Iron Man match, just a normal match with a time limit.

And sadly they didn't just end the PPV after the two attempts at FIVE MORE MINUTES. Anderson vs. Pope had to follow that match and they kinda stunk up the place.

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:22:00 PM
#241:


And keep in mind that the CONSPIRACY behind it all was that Bischoff wanted Jeff to win.

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:22:00 PM
#242:


From: JaKyL25 | #240
That wasn't an Iron Man match, just a normal match with a time limit.

And sadly they didn't just end the PPV after the two attempts at FIVE MORE MINUTES. Anderson vs. Pope had to follow that match and they kinda stunk up the place.


Ah, that's right.

Wasn't that also the match where Jeff Hardy spent like a combined ten minutes in the Ankle lock and was still able to walk around and hit his moves and everything?

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:22:00 PM
#243:


From: JaKyL25 | #241
And keep in mind that the CONSPIRACY behind it all was that Bischoff wanted Jeff to win.


Was Jackson James reffing that match?

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JaKyL25
12/17/11 10:24:00 PM
#244:


From: SmartMuffin | #242
Wasn't that also the match where Jeff Hardy spent like a combined ten minutes in the Ankle lock and was still able to walk around and hit his moves and everything?


Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that two out of the three times that the time limit ran out he was in the Ankle Lock when the bell rang.

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ScareChan
12/17/11 10:24:00 PM
#245:


oh so no love for being SCARE'd I see how it is

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GTM
12/17/11 10:24:00 PM
#246:


I appreciate the pic you made of the third haguile foundation rail, XIII

appreciate

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TimJab
12/17/11 10:27:00 PM
#247:


From: SmartMuffin | #243
Was Jackson James reffing that match?


no idea who jackson james is, but if you want matches where stuff like "who the ref was" becomes relevant 5 years later, you should watch chikara

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:28:00 PM
#248:


From: TimJab | #247
no idea who jackson james is, but if you want matches where stuff like "who the ref was" becomes relevant 5 years later, you should watch chikara


This WOULD be relevant given recent events!

But I don't trust TNA to have actually thought of all of this ahead of time.

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TimJab
12/17/11 10:29:00 PM
#249:


i got that much

but what i'm saying is, if it were chikara, you'd go back and discover that jackson james did in fact ref the match and your head would asplode

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ExThaNemesis
12/17/11 10:29:00 PM
#250:


Thinking about coming back to wrestling in the new year.

But having those two hours on Monday nights for other stuff has been kinda nice.

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