Board 8 > two months seems long enough. what's the consensus on Breath in the Wild?

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everyone has a different favorite Zelda so... where does it rank among the mainline Zeldas for you?
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Best Zelda

great fun for an introvert like me
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transience posted...

everyone has a different favorite Zelda so... where does it rank among the mainline Zeldas for you?

Second best Zelda ever. Between the second and fourth best game ever. I haven't totally decided on where to place it between Chrono Trigger.

My first thought is it missed just enough to not top CT. However, I do believe it is better than ALttP and ALBW, so it doesn't fall below those.

This also very sadly knocks Final Fantasy IX out of the top 5, and even sadder, SMW out of the top 10.....
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My top tier is probably LOZ, LTTP and BOTW.
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could probably make a case for top 5
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Best Zelda, by far.
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Second best after OoT.
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Severely flawed, missing lots of Zelda stuff. If you've hated Zelda for decades or never played an open world game before you might love it.

Oh the concensus is that it's the best game ever made.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Severely flawed, missing lots of Zelda stuff. If you've hated Zelda for decades or never played an open world game before you might love it.

can't tell if this is serious or not but this is a thought I've had. people here adore the heck out of Zelda so does it play for people who love the Zelda formula? seems like yes but I bet some people are firmly in the no camp.
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That is foolmo's honest opinion
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Best zelda, top 10 all time games
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transience posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Severely flawed, missing lots of Zelda stuff. If you've hated Zelda for decades or never played an open world game before you might love it.

can't tell if this is serious or not but this is a thought I've had. people here adore the heck out of Zelda so does it play for people who love the Zelda formula? seems like yes but I bet some people are firmly in the no camp.

The dungeons are weaker than normal Zelda dungeons, and the bosses are much less interesting.
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Good but extremely flawed. Hoping the open world isn't a trend.

transience posted...

does it play for people who love the Zelda formula?

No. Some may like it, but it's far removed from the elements that made me love the games. This is the biggest problem, honestly. I'm really worried about the future of the series.
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transience posted...

people here adore the heck out of Zelda so does it play for people who love the Zelda formula?

Most people I've talked to online and irl who love BOTW don't really like Zelda, except maybe OOT due to nostalgia. But this one drops the dungeons, item progression, story, "backtracking" and such so I guess it appeals to more people.
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Best Zelda. MM and Oracles games are strong runner ups.

And I'm someone who enjoys Zelda games quite a bit.

Weakest point were the bosses though (and dungeons to an extent), but everything else I enjoyed heavily.
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Still a toss up whether I liked this or Majora's Mask more as my favorite in the series

definite GotY unless something even more mindblowing comes along

Even Persona 5 which was another great Persona game was a noticeable tier lower than what Zelda had achieved as a video game.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Severely flawed, missing lots of Zelda stuff. If you've hated Zelda for decades or never played an open world game before you might love it.

Oh the concensus is that it's the best game ever made.

This probably explains why I like the game but am not in love with it.
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If you liked MGSV then you will love BOTW
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one of the most enjoyable gaming experiences I've had in my life.

I'm the guy who's there day 1 for every Zelda game, even the Hyrule Warriors and Triforce Heroes of the world. This makes a strong case for my favourite entry in the series.
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TheRock1525 posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Severely flawed, missing lots of Zelda stuff. If you've hated Zelda for decades or never played an open world game before you might love it.

Oh the concensus is that it's the best game ever made.

This probably explains why I like the game but am not in love with it.

This. It hasn't grabbed me and I've played maybe 10-15 hours since release. I like the game, it's fun, but I'm definitely not hooked.
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My favorite Zelda. My ranking right now:

BotW > OoT = MM > LoZ >= SS > WW > TP

anything that isn't ranked I haven't beaten yet, but the bottom three might change once I play through them again. I feel like I can appreciate WW and TP a lot more and SS less now.

Honestly, BotW is really what's gotten me back into modern gaming again, for the first time in around 10 years. In my top 5 of all time.

Also I think the Zelda fans who don't like the change of direction are in the vocal minority.
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iiicon posted...

one of the most enjoyable gaming experiences I've had in my life.

I'm the guy who's there day 1 for every Zelda game, even the Hyrule Warriors and Triforce Heroes of the world. This makes a strong case for my favourite entry in the series.

This. It's fantastic.
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probably a game i should buy is where I'm at right now
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it looks neat but I wouldn't buy a switch just to play it
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It's hard for me to really rank it as a "Zelda" game because it's not really one, buuuut it's a total blast. Easily in the top 3 Zelda series and that isn't even a question.

Only thing I miss though is specific equipments. I liked early in how you could find Korok leaves that puff out air and I was hoping for more items like that. Hookshot is my greatest Zelda love after all.

I played with my daughter watching on for most of the adventure. She checked out after I beat the game about 60 hours in. The step kids have been happy to watch the next 40 hours of shrine hunting and all that stuff. I'd say it takes the tired Zelda formula elements and keeps them bite sized while delivering on old school Zelda goodness. It's a good open world but you don't have to wander off the beaten path, really.

If you like the dungeon formula that started in LTTP and grew from there, BOTW doesn't really scratch that itch. But I bet if you play with your kids, the night you get to the volcano is a big one 😀
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Probably second best behind MM for me.
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yeah, the kids thing is drawing me in. I've seen some amazing articles written about how great this is to play with your kids.

I just don't want to buy it on wii u and don't plan to get a switch until maybe the holiday season. or at least until Xenoblade 2 happens.
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Overrated trash according to any thread on the BotW board that gets over 100 posts, so probably that.
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Another simple barometer: if you're already convinced that an open world Zelda is good, then you will like it, but the game won't convince you itself
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that's a tough one for me.

I like Zelda but I don't love it. I probably wouldn't rank any Zelda in my top 50, but I do think Zelda 1 is amazing for its time and everything I've heard about BOTW is that it's the evolutionary Zelda 1. that sounds appealing.
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here's a better question for this board, since tastes are more or less aligned: if I were to get one of Persona 5 or Breath of the Wild, what should I go for? both will take me a hundred hours and that's a good 3 months of gaming time for me.
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MM > BotW > other Zeldas
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transience posted...

here's a better question for this board, since tastes are more or less aligned: if I were to get one of Persona 5 or Breath of the Wild, what should I go for? both will take me a hundred hours and that's a good 3 months of gaming time for me.

Nier Automata
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neonreaper posted...

But I bet if you play with your kids, the night you get to the volcano is a big one

yep, that's been one of the big draws for me. It's scratching some of the same itch that Mario Maker did. just a fun, welcoming, collaborative experience.

early on my niece and nephew made an agreement where they'd pass off their game when they died. my nephew ran headfirst into encounter after encounter, dying in like five minutes. my niece grabbed the Twilight Link amiibo to summon wolf Link and spent the next hour just stomping all over Hyrule. clever girl
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I love Zelda. I have at times ranked LttP as my favorite video game, and OoT, TP, WW, and SS are all games I'd say I love. I often don't like open world games (Elder Scrolls is trash, GTA not much better), other than Xenoblade X, which I loved. BotW is amazing. It's the best 3D Zelda game, and my favorite game of the year so far (a statement that actually means something, since I've played a significant number of 2017 games, though I usually don't!). I played the game ~100 hours and loved pretty much all of it. The dungeons and bosses could've been better, I guess, but even they did some really neat things and I liked every one of them. A remarkable achievement.
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Disclaimer: I haven't actually played BotW yet

I don't hold the standard Zelda formula in nearly as high a regard as others though, so I'll probably like it
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foolm0r0n posted...

Another simple barometer: if you're already convinced that an open world Zelda is good, then you will like it, but the game won't convince you itself

This is not true. I heard it was an open world Zelda, and was very worried that I wouldn't like it because of this. I got it because of the good reviews, and because I love Zelda so much, but I didn't even play it for a couple weeks because of my worries. The game is definitely what convinced me to like it.

transience posted...

here's a better question for this board, since tastes are more or less aligned: if I were to get one of Persona 5 or Breath of the Wild, what should I go for? both will take me a hundred hours and that's a good 3 months of gaming time for me.

BotW > P5 IMO, though both are awesome.
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Are you only allowed to buy 1 game a year or what? Just get them all eventually
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foolm0r0n posted...

Are you only allowed to buy 1 game a year or what? Just get them all eventually

transience posted...

both will take me a hundred hours and that's a good 3 months of gaming time for me.

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foolm0r0n posted...

Just get them all eventually

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It's great, but I wish they gave you more gear or powers to play around with. On the other hand, there's no hookshot that only works on these conspicuous targets and no other surface in the game. Imagine if BotW had a hookshot/clawshot/grappling hook you could swing around on?

Excellent game, and if nothing else, I think it's good that Nintendo was willing to go out of its comfort zone with Zelda here. Top 2 Zelda with MM for me. I have no real attachment to the "Zelda formula" though so maybe that helps? Definitely has some flaws you can't miss (dungeons is the biggest one.)

transience posted...

here's a better question for this board, since tastes are more or less aligned: if I were to get one of Persona 5 or Breath of the Wild, what should I go for? both will take me a hundred hours and that's a good 3 months of gaming time for me.

Um, IIRC, we broadly agree about P3/P4 so I think the safer pick for you would be Persona 5. Persona 5 has its own flaws and I think P3 still reigns as the best of that Persona trio, but Persona 5 isn't that far behind.

I mean, I think consensus will look back and say BotW is the more "must play" game but I think that's largely because it's simply the bigger game (Nintendo, Zelda, etc.) whereas Persona 5 is still essentially the same Persona formula from 3/4.
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Also, the Master Sword is fucking pathetic in this game. Look, I know you have the whole weapon durability system (which I actually find neat), but it necessitates that the Master Sword is pitiful. If the the permanent upgraded-state from the new dlc dungeon doesn't also make it unbreakable, it will probably be my biggest complaint with the game.

I feel like you will enjoy Persona more, but I don't really play those games. People just seem hooked on it
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Skyridge87 posted...

It's great, but I wish they gave you more gear or powers to play around with. On the other hand, there's no hookshot that only works on these conspicuous targets and no other surface in the game. Imagine if BotW had a hookshot/clawshot/grappling hook you could swing around on?

It wouldn't really fit with the game design but it would be awesome as some later expansion or DLC
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Best game ever, one of the best things I've ever experienced. We're talking life changing, harry potter levels of enthrallment. I was somewhat surprised, as I've always loathed 3d Zelda. I might hate Ocarina more than anyone ever. But, after Link Between Worlds was so good (probably a top 20 game for me), I had a feeling they were about to figure something awesome out.
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I've abandoned it for a good while now, but I was quite impressed by it. There's a sense of scale that doesn't feel pointless even with a large amount of empty space. It feels like an adventure. Good combat too. It can actually force you to strategize how to take outposts and such.
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Skyridge87 posted...

Also, the Master Sword is fucking pathetic in this game. Look, I know you have the whole weapon durability system (which I actually find neat), but it necessitates that the Master Sword is pitiful. If the the permanent upgraded-state from the new dlc dungeon doesn't also make it unbreakable, it will probably be my biggest complaint with the game.

... It's really not tho. In dungeons at least, 60 power is great. Having an unbreakable sword at full power available for use everywhere would be terrible though so I love how the MS is handled. Even then, 30 power is perfectly usable as weapon that you don't have to worry about wasting so I still use it in the field too whenever.

foolm0r0n posted...

Another simple barometer: if you're already convinced that an open world Zelda is good, then you will like it, but the game won't convince you itself

Or maybe people just like it

You don't have to keep trying to put qualifiers on it, you know
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