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ColdOne666 posted...

Keep lieing

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

History of the concept
The concept of gender, in the modern sense, is a recent invention in human history.[14] The ancient world had no basis of understanding gender as it has been understood in the humanities and social sciences for the past few decades.[14] The term gender had been associated with grammar for most of history and only started to move towards it being a malleable cultural construct in the 1950s and 1960s.[15]
Sexologist John Money introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word gender to refer to anything but grammatical categories.

Also people like you spreading misinformation is making it hard for linguistics, because people think grammatical gender is related to the newer social construct. Often a language's grammatical genders have nothing to do with it.

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Lord_Wombat posted...

Would that be worth the issues it would cause?

Other than US prisons are rape centers by design (and that is an issue unrelated to this since most first world countries don't allow prison rape to occur) can you tell me what other major problems there are where we need to legally classify people by gender and/or sex?

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Also gender was indeed a linguistic term and it was popularized by John Money to push his now discredited theories. That doesn't really matter much though. Also just because US prisons have serious rape issues doesn't mean normal first world countries do. The rape problem in US prisons isn't some inevitable fact of prisons, it's by design.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

You never get a satisfactory answer because the only answer that would satisfy you is something that would support your "well meaning" transphobic opinions

Removing sex and gender from the legal aspect of life entirely would basically eliminate most if not all legal issues trans people face right? I don't get your opposition here.

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I didn't like Dark Fate, but I wouldn't call it actively bad. Just pointless and more of a retread than interesting action set pieces. Rise of the Skywalker was awful.

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Doctor_Dementia posted...

Damn I guess I won't watch it

First season is self-contained.

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Geiki Ganger posted...

Again, you are the one associating "having a back bone" with "acting like white people." Do you realize the irony in your post.

I'm not associating anything other than you thinking she has some obligation to act another way because she's being a bad Asian woman according to you. You are the one who brought up stereotypes, I think she should be allowed to be her own person and act how she wants. If I wanted to listen to straight white men telling everyone else how to behave all day I could go back to living in America.

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Geiki Ganger posted...

I didn't know standing up for yourself is a white women stereotype, but I guess you just revealed your own prejudice.

I don't like that so many white "allies" think good behavior is acting like whatever white people think is correct. LGBT, women, any race, it's always "act more like white people, men, straight people, it's for your own good". She did nothing wrong and you're shaming her for not conforming to your idea of what a "good Asian woman" is.

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Geiki Ganger posted...

But she sat there politely and silently

My question is why.

This just feeds the stereotype that Asian women are obedient and submissive.

Why is it her job to act in ways that go against stereotypes? She can act however she wants. She doesn't have to be a white woman stereotype or whatever it is you think is the right behavior for her.

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Bio1590 posted...

Chinese President Ji Xinping

American President Tonald Drump.

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TheAwesomeMatt posted...

The idea that you need guns because of a tyrannical government is obviously nonsense, if the government were to go that way then I'm not sure if a civilian rifle has much chance against a fighter jet.

The US lost a war in Afghanistan to a bunch of people with whatever rifles they could find, an insurgency is a legitimate threat, and contained in the US some soldiers would like switch sides.

The real issue is very few people actually want freedom. Most are bootlickers and the main thing they arguing over is which boots they want to lick. If the person wearing the boots claims to be left or right wing is pretty much all that matters. It's really unfortunate but I don't know if anything can be done about it. The weird thing is it seems to almost entirely depend on what the person says, not their actual policies. You could be a fascist but if you claim to be a revolutionary communist some people will volunteer to lick boots.

The current Trump administration in America has gone against so many alleged conservative principles, like free trade, reduced spending, etc. while denigrating allies and praising enemies that conservatives used to constantly fear monger over (we love North Korea and Russia now!). Don't expect the bootlickers to turn on the government if it's got the boots they like licking in office.

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El Mexicano Texano posted...

The Dragons Quest movie looked good. The Pokemon movie was alright except for the people. Aijin looks good as well. Kengan Ashura is amazing.

Dragon Quest and Pokemon weren't produced by Netflix, that's a marketing thing in the US if they're calling them originals there. Ajin is pretty widely regarded as having terrible animation (the studio itself admitted they aren't skilled and apologized for a few scenes). Kengan Ashura is pretty bad looking, but admittedly better than average for them. I still think Devilman Crybaby still did cheap animation better overall since it worked around the style.

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The one thing r/communism and Trump supporters can agree on, North Korea is the best Korea. It's kind of crazy actually. The Russia stuff is the same too. Tankies love Russia, Trumpers love Russia.

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Kaiganeer posted...

i mean south korean culture has some pretty fucked up things about it, so maybe he was referring to that

Shitting on South Korea and wanting to be friends with North Korea to own the libs.

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Firewerx posted...

And yes, caring about this stuff does work. That's how and why in a democracy, reforms are forced through, bad laws are repealed, and governments are forced to make U-turns on policy: it happens because eventually, enough people care about these things -- and most of the time, it's not because they waited for a cue from their government.

Democracies are a great demonstration of how little people do care about these things as demonstrated by the statement you told me you agree with earlier:

ssjevot posted...

I want to make another post to specifically address this. Almost no one in the US or elsewhere, care about human rights very much. In the US concern for things like war or indefinite detection or deporting immigrants or whatever issue people allegedly care about evaporate if their guy is in charge and doing the exact same shit. People largely care about their in-group succeeding and only feel bad for some other group if they can use it as a tool to criticize their out-group. However a common mistake to make is to then think you should oppose caring about something because people are doing the right thing for the wrong reason. So regardless of why people care about bad things that are happening in China, you shouldn't suddenly think that makes those things okay. I don't care why people do or don't oppose the US bombing countries in the Middle East, it doesn't suddenly become okay or not okay depending on who drops the bombs on a wedding.

You are saying human nature needs to change. That isn't going to happen. Don't look a gifthorse in the mouth.

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Firewerx posted...

You've written: "If economic size factors into how much you care about or don't care about human rights abuses, you should rethink your moral priorities." Why doesn't that make you guilty of the "if they support the right thing for the wrong reason, it's wrong" fallacy?

Because I don't care why they support the right thing? I'm not going to stand up for violations of human rights because you aren't against them for the right reason. I absolutely don't care and as I explained earlier caring about it doesn't make sense. You aren't going to get anything good to happen if that's your driving force. I noticed you skipped my gay marriage example, did you oppose gay marriage because Obama only changed his mind once it was popular or did you just not care, because what matters is allowing gays to have the same rights as everyone else?

If Trump said he wanted to stop bombing people in the Middle East to save money I wouldn't start begging for bombings to continue until they stop for the right reason.

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creativerealms posted...

All they are doing is paying for it. Not their fault the shows are crap. Blame the people making it.

They aren't paying enough, that's why it looks like shit.

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Uses the word super power. Claims that the USSR wasn't a super power. Man why are you so incapable of arguing in good faith? And if you don't deny genocides you don't get modded. It's a really low bar actually.

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I wonder how many people in the US think if you don't like the government it means you hate the US, while also thinking that hating the Chinese government doesn't mean you hate the Chinese people. They have a lot more in common with Chinese nationalists than they think. Probably would literally be a Chinese nationalist had they been born there. "You have to love everything our government does/did or you hate it and the people."

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creativerealms posted...

Why are you blaiming Netflix for their anime looking cheap when most anime is cheap?

Because they haven't made a single Japanese produced anime that hasn't looked like shit. Yet there are tons of Japanese anime that don't look like shit. I don't know why they refuse to fund these things appropriately. They certainly don't skimp on their live action shows and their American animation looks better (as shown in this topic).

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Okay, so that the Soviet Union, the US, and now the PRC (debatably, but I would say so) achieved Super Power status by doing that relates to your previous economic systems argument in what way? It seems you're more arguing that super powers become super powers by exploiting/murdering another population, but you phrased it earlier like that was the only way a country can become wealthy. So you accept South Korea and Poland at a minimum did not murder their own population and were exploited by other countries for most of their history and achieved wealth anyway, under capitalist systems, but you haven't shown any reason why we should believe other systems would be better. Whether you consider the USSR and PRC capitalist or not, they suggest at least a wide range of the systems we have seen in modern times can only achieve superpower status through exploitation. I honestly don't think the economic system matters much to your point because in practice it just changes who sits atop the hierarchy at best.

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pegusus123456 posted...

That's surprising to me. Castlevania has gorgeous animation and it's like 70% anime.

And Dragon Prince, which is not known for its great animation, managed to at least make the dragons look good.

Neither of those are anime, they were both made in the West by Western companies. I am using anime to mean Japanese animation. The Dragon's Dogma series is made in Japan by Japanese staff.

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Except you're falling back on the "if they support the right thing for the wrong reason, it's wrong" fallacy. It really shouldn't matter to you why they care about what is right, you don't suddenly start opposing it because they're doing it for the wrong reason. If everyone supported doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, we would end up in a world where nothing wrong was happening anymore. I couldn't care less why we ended up in that world. "Oh he just opposes torture because he doesn't like the guy doing the torture, so I'm okay with torture" is a morally bankrupt stance to have. You will spend the rest of your life waiting for things to get better if you only want people to support them for the right reason.

You think Democrats changed their heart on gay marriage in the US because they actually care about gay people and not because polls conveniently showed over 50% of the population now supported gay marriage? Did you freak out and yell at Obama for being a hypocrite because he said he believed marriage was between one man and one woman until it was no longer popular for him to think that? Did you suddenly decide you need to oppose gay marriage because they're supporting it for the wrong reasons?

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Firewerx posted...

Were there policies of liberalization that allowed an independent media, or allowed ordinary citizens to openly criticize policies or politicians without consequences? If not, then while politics at the top may have changed (and despite the bureaucratic infighting or lack thereof), for most Chinese the business of government has been pretty much business as usual.

I'm not ascribing the change of Western attitudes to a change in US presidents. It's more that criticism of China's human rights record doesn't seem to have gained much popular traction (which is to say, outside of people who are normally active in politics) for many years until quite recently. That may be due to the administration temporarily shining a public spotlight on it; but I'll bet you once that spotlight moves onto somewhere or something else, those concerns will quickly fade. The only thing that's going to keep China in the spotlight is the size of its economy, which is the real issue here.

Yes, the media was much more liberal and free before. It has been getting progressively worse. If you mean was it the same as most Western countries, no, but this isn't an all or nothing thing. There are grades of repression, and recently it has been the most repressed in modern times by far. This is not business as usual. Do you have family/friends that live in China? If you can communicate with them outside the Chinese internet (and they aren't a nationalist who supports this crap) they will tell you how things have gotten worse and how strict the crackdowns have gotten. The size of China's economy is not an issue at all for human rights abuses. If economic size factors into how much you care about or don't care about human rights abuses, you should rethink your moral priorities.

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Tropicalwood posted...

So did they blow up in their hands like all of Century Arms professionally crafted firearms have a habit of doing.

When I lived in the US I had a Romanian made AK from them and it was great. I bought for $250 back in 2005, probably worth more now.

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HBOSS posted...

maybe its a place holder?

Every anime produced by Netflix (not ones available on, which are sometimes called original in the US despite not being made by them) has looked awful. Some managed to make the low budget look work like Devilman Crybaby, but this is pretty par for the course.

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Here is that dragon from the game (not exact same scene):


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Firewerx posted...

I'm just hoping that critics of China's human rights record are sincere enough about human rights to be concerned about them even in other countries that don't pose an economic threat the the US, but I'm pessimistic.

I want to make another post to specifically address this. Almost no one in the US or elsewhere, care about human rights very much. In the US concern for things like war or indefinite detection or deporting immigrants or whatever issue people allegedly care about evaporate if their guy is in charge and doing the exact same shit. People largely care about their in-group succeeding and only feel bad for some other group if they can use it as a tool to criticize their out-group. However a common mistake to make is to then think you should oppose caring about something because people are doing the right thing for the wrong reason. So regardless of why people care about bad things that are happening in China, you shouldn't suddenly think that makes those things okay. I don't care why people do or don't oppose the US bombing countries in the Middle East, it doesn't suddenly become okay or not okay depending on who drops the bombs on a wedding.

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The Chinese government has changed many times since then. Xi has been the driving force between all the new problems that have occurred. One of the biggest things Xi has done (besides making himself president for life) is make it so criticism or him and his regime can't even come from within the party. This makes it very hard for China to change course now compared to how it had been before. Before there were factions in the CCP pushing for different directions and now being in the anti-Xi faction results in things like going to jail. Being a party member doesn't make you safe anymore.

The whole communism part of China doesn't mean anything anyway (unless you're one of these weird Westerners with a fetish for anything claiming to be communist), the CCP is simply the governing party of China and has many people with different ideas on what direction China should go. What has happened in the last few years is that there is only one direction, one view, that is allowed in the party now. And it's not one that is compatible with basically any country outside of China's interests so naturally you hear more criticism from any country that isn't China or one of the despotic regimes supporting them out of self-interest to check the US's power in the region.

This isn't simply the West didn't realize China was a threat until Trump got elected, you think Obama's policies in the region and the TPP wasn't designed specifically to check China's rise?

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What if, both persecuting a minority population for their religion is wrong, but it also doesn't make propaganda news sources that support the persecuted people right? Like I'm sure we can all feel bad for Palestinians, but that doesn't mean we should start getting our news from Hamas.

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Are you unironically arguing that people in the West didn't care about Tienanmen Square? You should maybe read about what happened at that time or something, because as much as I don't like the US myself, that's not at all true that they didn't care at the time.

There's an entire Wikipedia article on how countries reacted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests

"The United States Congress and media criticized the military action. President George H. W. Bush suspended military sales and visits to that country. Large scale protests against the Chinese government took place around the country.[38] George Washington University revealed that, through high-level secret channels on 30 June 1989, the US government conveyed to the government of the People's Republic of China that the events around the Tiananmen Square protests were an "internal affair".[61] U.S. public opinion of China dropped significantly after the Tiananmen Square protests, from 72% having favorable opinions of China before the Tiananmen Protests to only 34% in August, 1989.[62]"

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So the PS3 version of the game looks better, so why not just like use the game models or something? I don't get it.

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He praises Russia and shits on other US allies constantly. How are people not figuring out this guy isn't interested in helping the US yet?

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First season is very good. Second season had entirely different production staff and felt like fan fiction at best.

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