Current Events > Trans woman required to identify as male by Immigration Canada: 'it was agony'

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I know it sucks to be misgendered like that but it feels like they were just following protocol to enter the country right?

Once she's established she would be able to just change it. I know it sucks in the moment but i doesnt sound like it was malicious in intent.

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pepper2012 posted...

You do realize when you're born the doctor has to look then record your gender right

Don't doctors just report your biological sex since gender is in one's mind? I think I'm doing this right.

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dj1200 posted...

Don't doctors just report your biological sex since gender is in one's mind? I think I'm doing this right.

You really ask a newborn, so you make an educated guess based on the crotch bits. Even that get ambiguous sometimes.

pepper2012 posted...

Im so afraid to live as a woman here, she said.

She'll have a non-rude awakening if she thinks this. Canada is pretty fuckin god damn accepting for the most part.. that said this topic thing must be some stupid weird ass loophole that needs to be fixed, but its not out of malice like this situation would be if it was the exact same but in the USA

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If she has a Driver's license for Ontario then she should be able to get the gender change to an X quite easily, not sure how difficult it is to get a license as a refugee.

I'm sure someone might have suggested that to her though.

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Getting an ice pick to the balls is agony, holy exaggeration.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

You never get a satisfactory answer because the only answer that would satisfy you is something that would support your "well meaning" transphobic opinions

Removing sex and gender from the legal aspect of life entirely would basically eliminate most if not all legal issues trans people face right? I don't get your opposition here.

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Also gender was indeed a linguistic term and it was popularized by John Money to push his now discredited theories. That doesn't really matter much though. Also just because US prisons have serious rape issues doesn't mean normal first world countries do. The rape problem in US prisons isn't some inevitable fact of prisons, it's by design.

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ssjevot posted...

Removing sex and gender from the legal aspect of life entirely would basically eliminate most if not all legal issues trans people face right?

Would that be worth the issues it would cause?

I thought trans people were proud of who they are so why would she be afraid of it outtting her as trans and trying to hide it?
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Lord_Wombat posted...

Would that be worth the issues it would cause?

Other than US prisons are rape centers by design (and that is an issue unrelated to this since most first world countries don't allow prison rape to occur) can you tell me what other major problems there are where we need to legally classify people by gender and/or sex?

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ssjevot posted...

Also gender was indeed a linguistic term and it was popularized by John Money to push his now discredited theories. That doesn't really matter much though. Also just because US prisons have serious rape issues doesn't mean normal first world countries do. The rape problem in US prisons isn't some inevitable fact of prisons, it's by design.

Keep lieing

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ColdOne666 posted...

Keep lieing

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

History of the concept
The concept of gender, in the modern sense, is a recent invention in human history.[14] The ancient world had no basis of understanding gender as it has been understood in the humanities and social sciences for the past few decades.[14] The term gender had been associated with grammar for most of history and only started to move towards it being a malleable cultural construct in the 1950s and 1960s.[15]
Sexologist John Money introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word gender to refer to anything but grammatical categories.

Also people like you spreading misinformation is making it hard for linguistics, because people think grammatical gender is related to the newer social construct. Often a language's grammatical genders have nothing to do with it.

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