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ssjevot
06/26/21 10:43:38 PM
#320
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Fuck this kanji. I keep reading it as instead of because I confuse it with . at least makes sense because works as a phonetic component.

EDIT: I just now noticed the missing stroke thanks to you pointing it out. Maybe now I'll be able to read it correctly.

Honestly outside of you won't really see it. If you work in any kind of business in Japan you will see and hear .

Edit: And yeah that stoke isn't missing, that's the correct form (Simplified and Traditional), the Japanese form of added a stroke. The people in charge of doing the reform after WWII got their jobs for political reasons (many wanted to abolish Japanese writing and use romaji, some even wanted to abolish Japanese and use English), so they weren't really thinking too hard about if what they were doing actually makes sense.

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ssjevot
06/26/21 10:42:42 PM
#319
Rimmer_Dall posted...
I don't remember having seen that word before. Now that I think of it, I don't believe I've read anything in Japanese featuring donkeys. Maybe I should watch Shrek dubbed in Japanese.

You will probably see it in , the rules for animal names using kanji or not in any work of fiction are 100% arbitrary. I recently played NieR Replicant Numbers edition and almost every animal used kanji except which was as though that is uniquely hard to read for some reason in a game that uses (that's read and your IME probably won't even give that as an option).

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ssjevot
06/26/21 10:36:28 PM
#317
Rimmer_Dall posted...
I believe I've seen this one posted on r/learnjapanese. I find the phonetic compounds to be as hindering as they are helpful due to the number of exceptions and tiny differences that have crept up over time due to phonetic drift.

Imagine the fun of Chinese where it almost never works in Mandarin and even when it does the tone is different so you can't read it correctly anyway. Classical Chinese had the perfect writing system for the time it was used, unfortunately we no longer live in that time and any meaningful reforms at this point are impossible due to the massive amount of print media using the current character sets (Traditional, Simplified, and Japanese). That's why when the government expanded the Joyo set a few years ago nothing was simplified, it's a technical nightmare so it's better to just go with than make new character with the "simplified" (actually one more stroke, Chinese people scratching their head to this day) .

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ssjevot
06/26/21 10:29:27 PM
#315
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Herp derp derp, for some reason even though I was pronouncing them both correctly in my head ( and ) I still somehow thought of them as the same.

In my defense, one of the on-yomi for is . >_>

I still think it's really easy to read, but now I'm not sure why.

Could be from

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ssjevot
06/26/21 10:27:48 PM
#314
This is the article, but I should note it has a few minor mistakes due to the way he did his analysis, there is a professional article as well.

Useful article:
https://namakajiri.net/nikki/testing-the-power-of-phonetic-components-in-japanese-kanji/

Professional article:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280836643_Identifying_Useful_Phonetic_Components_of_kanji_for_Learners_of_Japanese

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ssjevot
06/26/21 10:23:27 PM
#312
Rimmer_Dall posted...

Oh and I missed this but that's not (which is ). Phonetic components work more often in predicting pronunciation in Japanese than modern Chinese, but they're rarely 100%. There is a small list of 100% predictive phonetic components out there. I can try to dig it up and post it.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
06/26/21 10:18:05 PM
#310
Yeah, actually you see it written a lot outside of professional articles. NHK has to write it like that by law, and a lot of other news companies follow government kanji guidelines (ignoring them for super basic stuff like etc.).

They're just following guidelines whenever you see that for super easy stuff. Like most roadsigns say but if they followed the government guidelines it would be (never seen this, but it's technically what it should be according to the government).

Oh and sometimes you see this in reverse! Like in my town there is only one sign that says and the rest all say even though they're all according to the government.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
06/26/21 10:08:43 PM
#308
Rimmer_Dall posted...

You will see that word fairly often if you are in Japan. Most often in the form of .

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
06/26/21 9:38:28 PM
#306
Rimmer_Dall posted...
I do play Japanese games. Sometimes I just feel like playing western games, but I don't want to waste immersion time.

Also, it's very obvious when a game is machine translated and those games are easy to avoid.

Fair enough. It could be worse too. My (Chinese) wife likes a lot of Western Indie games and their Chinese translations are often so bad she usually just plays them in English or Japanese (which is somehow not as bad). My guess is that the Chinese machine translation doesn't know how to handle made up in-game words. She played Subnautica, so I am curious what language she used since you said the Japanese was very difficult (also I encountered the Chinese font thing in the Japanese translation of Hollow Knight, which was also not very good).

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ssjevot
06/26/21 3:52:04 AM
#303
There are so many actual Japanese games available I don't know why you would play a game likely machine translated into Japanese instead of English.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
06/10/21 2:50:04 AM
#277
Stalolin posted...
Well yeah? Lmao.

By cutting that off you are missing the point. There can be well designed learning tools that cost money. WaniKani is literally designed to maximize the money they make, not the effectiveness of your learning.

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ssjevot
06/09/21 10:03:59 PM
#275
WaniKani is designed to make them money, with you learning something being incidental. There is nothing it does you can't do yourself for free and much faster. Anki decks exist with mnemonics on them if that's what you want.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
04/05/21 9:09:40 PM
#172
SpiritSephiroth posted...
Been using duolingo, a nice change of pace tbh.

If you really want to use one of those apps LingoDeer is much better, but neither is very good.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
04/04/21 8:17:12 PM
#169
I use AnkiDroid for Android, but the official website works as well. There is no official app for Android, but I think AnkiDroid is really good.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
03/31/21 2:18:35 AM
#159
Actually that makes me realize how weird it is that Ryoma doesn't use Tosaben in Ishin.

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ssjevot
03/24/21 11:24:17 PM
#148
Itachi157 posted...
Bought this and it just arrived today.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/730573-ryu-ga-gotoku-ishin

Let's see if I'm up to snuff. Hoping it's not chock full of obscure historical terms. (Who am I kidding, it definitely is)

That's my favorite game in the series.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
03/16/21 8:05:55 PM
#134
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Have you guys noticed that and seem to be the "then" and "than" of Japanese? By which I mean native speakers constantly seem to mix the two up when reading/writing?

The majority of Japanese under the age of 60 mispronounce to the point where outside of a test you may as well consider the mispronunciation correct (even the majority of over 60 also mispronounce it, but not to the same degree).

https://otonasalone.jp/160389/

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
03/15/21 9:56:20 AM
#127
Fenriswolf posted...
Frankly if you're fluent in Chinese then Japanese is much easier to learn due to the shared Kanji characters. The only thing you have to remember is to pronounce the Kanji in the Japanese way not the Chinese way.

That's a taller order than you might think. Most characters have one way to say them in Chinese. That's not the case in Japanese unfortunately and you need to memorize words for the most part. Even Japanese loanwords and vicerversa from Chinese don't go how you expect a lot of the time ( yinhang, must be , nope, will be more appropriate, nope got me again!). And anything not is of course not able to be related to Chinese pronunciation. Thankfully the meanings of words will be the same 99% of the time. But the problem for Chinese learners will still primarily be grammar.

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ssjevot
03/15/21 6:51:01 AM
#125
SpiritSephiroth posted...
Did two sections of my homework, some of it was filling out particles because my sensei saw that some of the class was having trouble with placing the correct particles in the right places.

That's always an issue with classroom study, things you find easy are still going to require repetition because if other classmates and things you find hard might go to fast because most others are finding it easy.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
03/11/21 9:19:57 PM
#119
I think is the word I hear most often when people ask me where I am from.

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ssjevot
03/02/21 9:30:23 PM
#95
SONIC_305 posted...
Just a question but do you guys have any recommend books to study for japanese when it comes to grammar/particles and kanji? Or everything that helped you guys in general?

Been studying it for the past 3 weeks with tackling katakana, hiragana and youon. Still feel kanji will bite me in the *** soon lmao. Hope its all working out and paying off for you guys

I think the single best resource in existence is a free Anki deck called Core 10k. It has 10,000 (actually more like 9700) sentences ordered by vocab frequency that are fully voiced. You can set cards to study reading, listening, etc.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
03/01/21 2:30:26 AM
#88
Everybody always talks about how good the Hana Yori Dango drama is but I only ever read the manga.

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ssjevot
02/24/21 10:31:35 PM
#81
Rimmer_Dall posted...
compared to the horrors of trying to learn Japanese grammar

I can completely agree to that. Unless you are Korean this will be the worst part for any learner.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
02/24/21 10:24:37 PM
#79
You can say it's a good system to you and worked for you. I can agree to that. I will never agree to it putting you on the level of a Chinese speaker. It's a preposterous claim.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
02/24/21 10:21:04 PM
#76
Claiming an RTK Learner is equivalent to someone who knows Chinese is preposterous. You know it, and I know it, so why are we pretending that claim has any merit?

As an explicit example. The first time my (Chinese) wife saw she knew what it meant. If you claim RTK would allow you to know what it means we both know you are lying.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
02/24/21 10:19:08 PM
#74
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Are you sure you know Chinese?

https://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%89%8B%E8%A2%8B
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%89%8B%E8%A2%8B

Like, why should I even bother to read anything you write anymore when you make such basic errors?

I have only ever seen . Wasn't aware that was also a word for it.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
02/24/21 10:16:41 PM
#72
Rimmer_Dall posted...
It's not. The jouyou list is very misleadingly named. In literature and video games you'll very commonly see kanji not in the jouyou list, and some jouyou kanji are only in the list because they're in goverment documents like the Japanese constitution and are otherwise almost never encountered in the wild.

Very accurate post. You will probably go your whole life of being into Japanese media without seeing or , but even a young child in Japan can read and you probably saw and at a minimum in your first Japanese media.

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ssjevot
02/24/21 10:14:12 PM
#70
Rimmer_Dall posted...


Do you think means handbag because of your knowledge of Chinese? Oh look! I found a word where prior knowledge of Chinese is not only not helpful, but outright detrimental! This must mean knowing Chinese is detrimental to learning Japanese!

That's not a Chinese word. It's Japanese (as should be obvious by the ). Famous examples of words with different meanings in both languages are . If you want to provide examples to make your point you may want to do some basic research on one or both languages first. As Is aid 50-60% of words are literally identical because they were either borrowed from Chinese to Japanese (the majority) or vice versa (many science and technology terms like and ).
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Why are you doing something so horribly intellectually dishonest? You are sitting there being outright offended by the very idea that RTK may actually be helpful and you are saying I'm the one being irrational, even calling me a cultist. It's utterly ridiculous.

You made claims that are objectively false. That everyone who knows both languages knows are false and are only supported by RTK cultists. Doing RTK isn't even remotely on the same page as knowing Chinese not even remotely. And I learned Japanese first, so you should check your assumptions.

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ssjevot
02/24/21 9:59:59 PM
#65
kirbymuncher posted...
This sounds unusually high

though I guess it does come down to what you're reading and what counts as "reasonably capable". But I'm fairly certain I don't know nearly that many and I've played a handful of jp games

3000 is the commonly cited figure for an average educated Japanese adult and it also comes close to covering the JIS standard for regularly used kanji which is around 3100 (the full JIS list is like 7000).

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ssjevot
02/24/21 9:57:34 PM
#64
Rimmer_Dall posted...
You don't seem to really understand the idea of putting in a bit of effort in the short term to save a lot of effort in the long term. It's kinda odd since you've already said you can't really appreciate how difficult and frustrating it is for people who don't have a background in Chinese to learn kanji, acknowledging that your prior knowledge of them helped a great deal. You might not remember what it was like not knowing any kanji, so allow me to remind you: they all look like meaningless squiggles that are impossible to tell apart from each other. Consider for a moment that there might be a reason people who used systems like RTK "go on and on like it's some magic trick". Maybe because it actually felt that way to them with the results it produced.

Also, if you do KKLC in the way the book recommends you're still learning the words in isolation, which really doesn't properly let you internalize the meaning of words. KKLC very similar to Wanikani in that way (another resource I have experience with, I did it until level 21 before dropping it to dedicate all my focus towards Anki).

Why don't Chinese learners use RTK? Isn't it even more kanji centric? Most agree you need to learn at least 4000 kanji to be fluent yet no one advocates this weird method. I wonder why? Maybe learning kanji in the context of words is a better use of time than learning them in a meaningless keyword context first and learning words later?

Rimmer_Dall posted...
And what exactly are you basing this number on? I assure you, it was far, far more than 10%.

The fact that many keywords are meaningless and words are not RTK keywords strung together. If you know Japanese that is obvious. KKLC lists multiple meanings for a reason. and are quite different no? As are and ? The list goes on.

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ssjevot
02/24/21 9:52:44 PM
#62
Rimmer_Dall posted...


I didn't ignore it. I was trying to emphasize that RTK learners and people who know Chinese are roughly on par when starting vocabulary, not knowing the reading and being able to guess the meaning of a reasonably large chunk of words based on prior kanji knowledge.

You are straight up drinking the RTK Kool aid and in the cult if you believe that. I can't even fathom how someone can believe something so obviously wrong. Words aren't just strings of RTK English keywords strung together. Do you actually know Japanese? You really think the meaning of words is known from shoving RTK keywords together? Come on man. Not to mention some kanji like literally don't have a meaningful keyword in RTK, it is absolutely impossible to know meanings from that. There are also tons of other keywords that are wrong of meaningless.

If you want to be an RTK cultist by all means, but I'm not going to bother talking more about this because you are removing yourself from rational discourse.

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ssjevot
02/24/21 9:22:31 PM
#60
Rimmer_Dall posted...
They know the meaning yes, not the reading. And the meaning of a lot of Japanese words can be inferred by the kanji.

You ignored the part where I specifically said that.

Rimmer_Dall posted...
I used it the same way one uses RTK, though. I didn't bother spending days on each kanji. I went through between 10-50 kanji a day just associating kanji and keyword and writing them.

KKLC doesn't use the unique keyword system. It lists actual meanings a kanji uses in words. It's literally not possible to use it like RTK, because RTK is specifically teaching you write a kanji in response to an English keyword prompt which may or may not be related to a meaning of the kanji in a word. Some keywords are explicitly wrong and some are meaningless.

Rimmer_Dall posted...
You don't really need to do more than the 500-1000 most common kanji in the RTK way to get most of the use out of it. By frequency, those kanji encompass over 80% of the words you encounter in the wild, and by the time you've learned those words you'll be more than familiar enough with kanji in general that you can easily learn unknown kanji together with vocabulary. Kanji has that thing where the more of them you know, the easier it gets to learn even more.

It works. Almost like magic. I know because I have that contrast, having learned a mix of common and uncommon kanji by only going halfway with KKLC instead of using a more modern and efficient system like RRTK, and thus having experienced the contrast in the difficulty in learning super-common words with unknown kanji (which were taught after the point where I quit KKLC) and any words where I knew the kanji beforehand. When one set of words is easily learned within a few hours and another set of words takes days or weeks of struggle you really start to understand how much time you've saved.

You can learn vocabulary from the start with kanji which is what KKLC recommends and is far more efficient than learning to write or learning English keywords. The goal is to read Japanese, and the proponents of RTK go on and on about how it's some magic trick based on nothing but the words of their own cultish members. It doesn't make sense, it explicitly doesn't teach you Japanese, and its primary claim is objectively a lie (Chinese people know the meaning of over half of all Japanese words from the start and can guess the meaning of most of the rest of them, an RTK user will be lucky to guess the meaning of 10% of words).

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
02/24/21 8:50:47 PM
#58
Rimmer_Dall posted...
The purpose of systems like RTK is to bring people to parity with learners who knew Chinese before starting to learn Japanese.

I am aware of the propaganda it uses to sell books. It isn't true though. Chinese people know the meaning of about 50-60% of Japanese words from the start because they are the same. Another 20% have meanings similar to what they would expect. The hurdle for Chinese learners is pronunciation and grammar. RTK doesn't teach you what kanji mean, how to read them (okay a second book tries this but not even fans of RTK recommend it), words, or grammar. You leave it with the ability to write a kanji in response to an English keyword which may or may not be related to that actual meaning of a given word that uses that kanji.

Rimmer_Dall posted...
I went through half of KKLC before starting to seriously study vocabulary, and the difference in the level of difficulty in learning words where I knew the kanji from KKLC and words where I hadn't seen the kanji before was night and day during the first several months.

KKLC is specifically not RTK, and I recommend it since it actually teaches you kanji.
Rimmer_Dall posted...
These days people use streamlined versions of RTK like RRTK (recognition RTK) where they only learn the 500-1000 most commonly used kanji instead of all kanji on the jouyou list, and just learn to recognize them instead of learning how to write them, so people get through that part of the learning process very quickly. It does save time in the long run.

I agree writing is largely useless, but you still didn't really learn anything there and you need to know around 3000 kanji to be reasonably capable of reading things. That isn't going to cut it. KKLC goes beyond to cover some of the most used ones that aren't on the list, but it still isn't enough. Thankfully you can learn most of the remaining ones by the one or two words that use them.

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ssjevot
02/24/21 8:33:08 PM
#56
Yeah I am being somewhat unfair about the kanji hurdle due to knowing Chinese. It really isn't that bad though in my opinion. You just need to actually learn kanji and not use one of those silly cheat systems like RTK. Most kanji are made of an and ; they almost always assist you with the meaning and they accurately predict the reading of over 50% of kanji.

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ssjevot
02/24/21 8:08:01 PM
#53
SpiritSephiroth posted...
Are , or used more in everyday conversations?

Those have different nuances. is for an incomplete list of nouns, is for an exhaustive list of nouns, is the continuitive or form of an adjective.

I think if you are using for a list it implies it is a list of reasons. So you are probably replying to a question and you would end with or , but honestly I see it very rarely. I usually see it linking sentences in formal articles.

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02/24/21 8:05:39 PM
#52
Itachi157 posted...
Speaking of Wikipedia articles I have taken brief glances at random Japanese Wikipedia articles here and there and they seem extremely hard to read. I guess it heavily depends on the article though.

I actually find them easier to read than a lot of casual Japanese. You may be struggling with reading words, but assuming you can read them the grammar is usually straight forward and meaning of the sentence is clear. I wish some of the guides I look up when stuck in a game had that style of writing. Really casual Japanese can get messy.

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ssjevot
02/24/21 7:59:09 PM
#49
kirbymuncher posted...
is this an actual example sentence from somewhere or did you write it yourself? because it seems off in a way I can't quite put my finger on

Probably that you rarely encounter used that way, and instead is used as yet another way to say "and" at the end of a sentence, and is more popular in Wikipedia article style writing than day to day communication.

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ssjevot
02/19/21 5:59:15 AM
#28
Real talk that's how it actually looks when someone is playing the game correctly.

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02/19/21 4:53:49 AM
#39
Also I will randomly add this video here because it's hilarious and you can use it for listening practice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtDiG1Snr2M

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02/19/21 4:36:53 AM
#38
KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...
@ssjevot My last question to you and I don't want to hijack this topic so I will make it about studying.

ssjevot do you still study Japanese while living in Japan? While I am not looking for perfection, I feel like I always find discover some nuance about a grammer point after reviewing the material.

Do you still study or do you feel like you have reached a level where you would prefer just speaking to people?

I do Anki flash cards for very rare things I don't see normally. Otherwise it's just games, manga, anime, and life for studying. My wife and I normally speak Japanese. English and Chinese are too one-sided in terms of our skill levels.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
02/19/21 4:14:56 AM
#36
KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...
Wow exactly

Excellent explanation. I have actually never been to Japan, and I've been told the same thing by many people. Studying books by yourself can only get you so far (lol I have a minor in Japanese too, so embarrassing)

A huge thing in Japanese is that words do not map onto English words very well. Not even loanwords from English (here is a fun video on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIgJR5ZQe94 ). I recommend using words you understand the nuance of well rather than trying to use more words. It is very easy to make a nuance mistake even if you have seen a word many times. Lived here for four years now. Been reading Japanese in games/manga for almost two decades and I still make mistakes every day. Don't ever expect to be perfect. It's never going to happen. These people chasing no accent, perfect Japanese, sound like a Native or whatever are just ruining their experience. You learn a language to talk to people in that language, for work, and/or to consume media in that language, not to trick people into thinking you're a native speaker. Who cares about that, they will know you are foreign no matter how hard you try, so just accept it and enjoy yourself instead.

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
02/19/21 3:55:35 AM
#34
KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...
(Jeez I may need to study more, I don't know if I used correctly...)

I think the bigger issue there is the way you are using . The difference between or verb form and or or is covered in a lot of guides, but in day to day life is the default for sure. But anyway I recommend learning the nuance of here. If I learn Japanese, what do I intend to do sounds strange. You probably mean something like If I understood Japanese I wonder what I would do?

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TopicITT: Japanese Studies
ssjevot
02/19/21 3:40:56 AM
#33
SpiritSephiroth posted...


I can read, write and speak Japanese. But Kanji, dammit that is a pretty huge hurdle for me.

How does reading and writing work without kanji? Honestly I find the kanji relatively easy compared to grammar. I can parse a Chinese sentence faster than Japanese a lot of the time and I live and work in Japan. Sometimes me and my wife both get lost conjugating when arguing which just ends up de-escalating things because we are correcting each other's grammar and laughing about it.

I should mention my speaking skills were basically non-existent before moving to Japan but I have been playing games in Japanese and watching anime in Japanese since the PSX era. So that might also be why I find kanji relatively easy. Lot of exposure due to playing a ton of RPGs.

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TopicReactions from ResetERA over Pyra/Mythra getting into Smash.
ssjevot
02/18/21 10:06:13 AM
#39
If they complain enough and it causes them to add Rodin from Bayonetta then we're cool.

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TopicBBC allegedly adds grey filter to picture of China
ssjevot
02/18/21 9:09:44 AM
#183
Welfare state capitalism shouldn't be considered leftism, because it's explicitly operating under a capitalist economic structure. If we consider social democracy the left end of capitalism that's fine, but it's not socialist nor does it have elements of socialism. Socialism does not require a welfare state and under the most pure form would have neither a state nor welfare.

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TopicReactions from ResetERA over Pyra/Mythra getting into Smash.
ssjevot
02/18/21 9:06:58 AM
#17
Sometimes I want to go there because the racists and genocide denialists and so on here never seem to get more than a slap on the wrist and then I remember you can use racial slurs with impunity there if you claim to be a specific race. The first time I saw a circle jerk of people there calling a black person racial slurs for having wrong think I never wanted to go back again.

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TopicBBC allegedly adds grey filter to picture of China
ssjevot
02/18/21 8:58:22 AM
#181
indica posted...
I would just like to add that both China and the USSR were never truly communists nations; they were totalitarian regimes with social hierarchies using communist ideology to manipulate the masses. Current China is so far from communism that they have the strongest capitalist market in the world (under a one party system).

Yeah as I often say tankies are just authoritarians that had leftist jargon to sieze power. China doesn't even claim to practice socialism, it explicitly says it is state capitalist.

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TopicBBC allegedly adds grey filter to picture of China
ssjevot
02/18/21 6:36:39 AM
#179
MrMallard posted...
The people of China, majority and minority populations alike, deserve better than the scum that heads their government.

Also just to preempt what some people are going to say. "The majority support the government." Okay based on what? Opinion polls in a country where all communications are monitored and criticism of the government is censored and can even land you in jail? I know many Chinese who do not support the government's actions on many policies but there is no way to know how many or have any kind of debate because they cannot vote, only party approved news and information is allowed, and you cannot voice criticism. The people who try to claim Chinese are a hive mind who blindly support the government are just as bad as the people who hate Chinese people for being a different ethnicity.

Remember when the Soviet Union broke up not a single one of the former Soviet countries that had elections elected the communists back into power. None of them. So don't assume China is some exception and everyone actually loves the current system.

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TopicShablagoo is SUSPENDED
ssjevot
02/18/21 2:48:59 AM
#230
RebelElite791 posted...
He thinks anything bad about China is western propaganda and that the CCP has no reason to lie

I literally watched Chinese media contradict its own narrative when I was locked down in Wuhan. Pretty much everyone in China knows the government lies. But that doesn't mean they like or trust Western media, and I can't blaim them. Chinese media is awful, but Western media is largely pretty bad too, and America has a laundry list of awful problems, so you're not going to convince them they're living in a shithole and America is a utopia just by showing them CNN or something. The main thing that sucks about China is you can't really talk about what sucks about China in China or on Chinese social media (and all other social media is banned). There are still a lot of good aspects though and I enjoy going there.

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TopicBBC allegedly adds grey filter to picture of China
ssjevot
02/18/21 2:41:14 AM
#163
gunplagirl posted...
The picture on the left is the BBC one. :l People sure aren't perceptive.

They're literally both the BBC. The Chinese broadcast required post-processing and was aired later. Almost all foreign broadcasts in China are delayed and you can only see the BBC at hotels if you possess a foreign passport. It isn't available to normal Chinese. However it is still censored, it just blacks out and shows nothing during censored segments.

What's hilarious is that not only is GameFAQs not banned in China, but neither is NPR. I regularly read NPR in China though I haven't been back since February of last year, so it could be banned now. Some Japanese media is also unbanned so that's another way to get information there.

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