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iiaattgg posted...

edge doing stupid stuff in AEW

Can't imagine having this opinion

How do you sell more tickets when it was already sold out

_PandaMaster_ posted...

Yet 5min of Goldberg/Lesnar would make 100x the money 40min of PURE TECHNICAL WRESTLING between Steen/Jericho ever could. Money always talks.

What Jericho are you talking about?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Wrestling died as a mainstream entertainment venue for four main reasons: smarks,

Lol.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Yes, big within the wrestling bubble. Means nothing to the world at large.

Look at how absurdly long it took for Vince to finally get MeTood to where it might actually be serious enough to get rid of him.

Here's the thing - the world at large has to be converted into fandom at some point or else WWE will bleed itself dry very slowly of fans who see their bad booking decisions and lose interest. There's no RoI for them. It's the same general rule as the MCU.

The comic 'What If' launched an entire line of comics off of a new character.

That isn't a recast, though. I can't imagine picking someone who could've played Cyclops the first time around to still play him this time - we've had another one in the middle!

That's an old-ass Cyclops

GavsEvans123 posted...

It is pretty funny that the Fox movies were building up to Sinister for a while, ended before getting to him, and now the MCU might do him instead. What if he shows up in Deadpool 3 first, and does multiverse stuff to jump out of the FoX-Men universe and into the MCU?

The theory was that Matthew MacFadyen was signed on for Deadpool 3 for the Sinister role some time ago, which would be some great casting.

redrocket posted...

The difference with Kang though is that he comes with a built-in excuse for why he is now someone different.

Hell, they could even pull a Sylvie and recast him as a woman!

Aside from the insanely toxic diatribes we could get over this, I actually love the idea of woman Kang coming in.

Again, I don't see how recasting in any way affects the character of Kang.

Magneto should have been introduced murdering the Inhumans because they won't join him.

mnk posted...

This movie really doesn't deserve to be the one to bomb so horrifically.

The film itself doesn't, but the film as a product of the current rudderless nature of Disney and Marvel absolutely is reaping what was sown.

Damn, I love Raimi's directing style, but I kind of think Secret Wars as a concept needs to be stolen from the executive's hands if your giving it over to the guy. Otherwise, it's just going to be another Avengers film.

I can't imagine why the best casting out of those four is the one getting the most complaints in this thread.

Raka_Putra posted...

Chris Pratt as Marjane Satrapi soon

Very underrated post

Yawgmoth

It's based on a 2020 interview with Joe Rogan that didn't actually say that.

I second the motion that the cast is nothing particularly special. The show is excellent, but unlike The Boys itself that features some truly excellent and memorable characters, the main roll call here sports a number of likable, inoffensive B+ players. I am very invested in the show, yet not any of the stars. I think that's why The Boys part of the show does a lot of heavy lifting - its connection and its tonality are the real stars of the show, and it certainly filled the vacuum of The Boys in a way that was far more than just serviceable. It was great.

Okay, I might have spoken too soon

Tomorrow.

Kefka

Yawgmoth

Stormfront

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Heyyyy

Black Cat calling Peter a skeevy little dweeb was better than Peter dating MJ for a 150 issues of "but I CAN'T date someone who jumps off of bridges!" for the umpteenth time.

KamikazePotato posted...

Okay Joe Quesada

Joe Quesada oversaw higher sales and greater successes at Marvel for a reason. Also, I was Team Mephisto from the beginning.

Legitimately, Mary Jane Watson is terrible and Black Cat has yet again proven that she far outpaces MJ as a good love interest for Peter. It was true in Ultimate Spider-Man, it was true in the cartoons, it was true in Spiders-Man 1 and 2 for PlayStation...

Just stop with Mary Jane Watson. Then. Now. Forever.

Peter as a (web)-swinging single works better for the character.

Jakyl25 posted...

Why is the Ultimate universe coming back? Whats to stop it from just ending up like last time?

Hickman wants it to, and nothing. Nothing at all.

NOOOOO!

Oh my God, no!

Perhaps one of my all-time favorite comics writers.

This really hits me hard. I don't even have the words.

I'm reeling right now.

I promise I will get back to this, but it might be a few weeks. I was promoted and October is RP Bingo month.

Pretty shitty way to talk about people getting fired.

Oppenheimer

Prepping for a session tonight!

The trade-off was either fake covers and pages or research for the handful of things I didn't recognize.

Snake5555555555 posted...

Surprised she wasn't lower, I just feel like she's such an ill-fit for any larger universe.

The things I had a decided opinion on and actually cared about earned lower placements. I didn't want to give some lukewarm thing which I wasn't going to research the bottom. The bottom should be fun!

Raka_Putra posted...

Oh and to be fair most virtual YouTubers at least have some kinda lore you can use as a starting point.

But the topic said in the first post that I wasn't going to do any research!

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#92 - Usada Pekora (Hololive) (handsomeboy Nom. #1/4)

From the Earth-4 comicbook.com Top Ten List - "Ten Marvel Characters from the 2000s You Forgot About":

"... Next on our list is Usada Pekora, a theoretically ambitious attempt to hybridize the success of the Marvel Mangaverse with the burgeoning popularity of Brian K. Vaughan's "Runaways" series. Introduced as the relocated daughter of a Japanese mobster and Canadian supervillainess, Usada Pekora possessed the ability to sing emotions into existence using a form of super-charisma. While her appearances only began at the tail end of the first Runaways volume, by the third volume of the series, Usada simply disappeared from the franchise entirely. While many cited a clear lost in translation effect that left most readers lukewarm to her energy which clashes somewhat with Molly Hayes (aka Princess Powerful), others felt as though the attempt to introduce a Japanese aesthetic to the series didn't fly with a readership that could just as easily read manga titles published from other distributors and chose instead to stick with western comics. Usada certainly developed a decent contention with the older teens of the Runaways, but her decidedly naive, bubbly and childish personality not only clashed in-story with characters like Nico and Alex, but also clashed with the entire aesthetic of a general Marvel title. It wouldn't be until years later that such a character ended up jibing with the Spider-Verse through its widespread variety of art styles and its usage of animation to convey aesthetic disaparities and highlight them."

My Thoughts:
As mentioned in the first post, I'm not an anime guy - and that extends to, I suppose, some sort of virtual idol? I'm not terribly familiar with this genre, though I think it might be a vtuber. I find it difficult enough to watch streams as it is of people playing games when I could just play them myself. Annoying voices would probably be a bridge too far for my sanity. So, alas for handsomeboy, this nomination fell into the realm of "I Don't Know You and I Don't Care to Know You."

I think there's a startling lack of forethought in nominating a vtuber for this category, especially one that's of an eastern aesthetic. As with many of the upcoming anime nominations (you folks who went that direction are cruising for a bruising), the entire idea of the manga to comic book split is based almost solely on those perfunctory differences in design. This list is all about comics potential - and manga stands apart entirely in its own field from comics. Also, there is just zero potential for a character whose entire identity appears to be a carrot in their hair. Style over substance doesn't always work in comics, despite what you may think!

The divergence of the plot IS a plot point, so playing the original gives a full perspective. Remake is, in its way, a sequel rather than a simple remake.

I had to call out Snake to avoid massacring Karo. Snake was the hero this ranking needed.

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#93 - Globglogabgalab (Strawinsky and the Mysterious House) (Karo Nom. #1/4)
From the dc.wikia.com of Earth-4, under the article of "Globglogabgalab":

"...who unfortunately was transformed by Grossout's sentient sludge, meaning that despite Philbert escaping his years-long monstrous curse, a new being would bear it like a cross. Becoming something akin to an earthworm-human hybrid, the security guard now known as Globgloabgalab (thanks to his inability to communicate coherently) would take Grossout's place on the team in the last published issue of the title. Even though the group would appear sporadically afterwards in titles such as JLA: Black Baptism and Superboy the Ravers through cameos, Globglogabgalab would ultimately disappear after a handful of appearances. His final fate is unknown."

My Thoughts:
In my initial post, I made a ruling that said I'd do no research for any of these nominations. I think that's fair, since you all aren't doing any research either, so that street should go both way. Thus, we witness the first drop of what I call the category of "I Don't Know You and I Don't Care to Know You". I promise, these write-ups are receiving the absolute least amount of effort possible and are deserving of my eternal enmity. Clearly, Karo was going for a joke nomination here. The problem with joke nominations are that, ever since I exited my 20's, I just don't find anything cute or funny any more. Instead, it infuriated me. It earned my eternal ire, and I made a sticky note reminding myself that, should Karo ever host a ranking of his own, I should torpedo it with something equally as terrible, aesthetically disturbing, and out-and-out dumb as some super-niche, badly animated whatever.

Don't worry, Karo. There are other people who ticked me off worse than you with these noms. You're getting off easy.

But let's talk about Globglogabgalab for a moment. Aside from the absolutely horrid aesthetic design, there's a discomfort factor in the nude color palette that makes Globglogabgalab a terrible nomination. The sort of nomination that fits into mid-90s Ghost Rider, Rob Liefeld Image or, as you can see here, a low-rent DC 90's horror outfit that shops around grotesqueries as odd curiosities for the sort of readers that enjoy Slipknot and horror. It's a looky-loo design engineered to play like the freaks in a circus. Point and laugh and leave feeling unsettled - there's nothing worse than that. It's the basest sort of perversion in the human experience. I hope I didn't just drop Snake as a reader.

At the time, my argument was focused on how Chandler plays well into the 'best friend' role of a superhero and could transition over time into a superhero costume himself. His brand of sarcasm fits well with the tonality of a Spider-Man style quipper. Perhaps a little harder edge, but Chandler was a good-looking guy with the sort of inauspicious day job and tight-knit friend group that made him perfect for a superheroic secret identity.

Chandler is a natural fit because comic readers know the personality and how it jibes in comics. It's a round peg for the round hole. Whereas, as much as George is a great character, I think he requires more in the way of acting, of Jason Alexander performing on-screen, to present the character. At least, that's my perception of him.

Also, running an RPG session tonight, so probably won't get around to making a new comic. Back at it tomorrow.

Weren't there some Mara Jade rumors swirling around regarding the Mandoverse last year? She'd be a perfect example to pitch for that face role.

Where do people stand on this backfiring spectacularly?

That might be too high of praise lol

I'd argue it's the Batman part that makes it work best, though. Not necessarily Seinfeld.

Snake5555555555 posted...

That Earth-4 comic page was one of the best yet!

Aww, thanks! I was particularly proud of that one.

Jesse_Custer posted...

Costanza doesnt seem to annoy Batman as much as Guy Gardner at least.

Fewer Green Lantern rings involved.

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#94 - George Costanza (Seinfeld) (Hbthebattle Nom. #1/4)
From the Earth-4 dc.wikia.com/George_Costanza article:

"...after which, thanks to the sudden financial trouble, Ted was forced to move down ten floors into the apartment abutting Constanza's. For the next year in Justice League International, Kord and Costanza would suffer through a tumultuous rivalry as Costanza not only earned the enmity of the Blue Beetle, but also the other residents of Sloopy Towers. Ultimately, Costanza would attempt to hire the Injustice League to take out Blue Beetle permanently, but due to a mix-up with sauces in a Chinese take-out order and George's unwillingness to split the bill equally with Major Disaster, Clock King and Multi-Man, a brawl commenced. George's desire for low sodium soy and the lack of any packets led to the deluded belief on Costanza's part that he should owe less than his proportional 25% of the bill, to which the Injustice League chose to instead force down his throat right before they dropped him from his fifteenth story window. Costanza's fate was left to the reader's imagination."

My Thoughts:

Once again, we run into a NIMBY situation on our list. George Costanza exemplifies the beloved and iconic Larry David style of sitcom writing, where relatable and often intensely pedestrian plotlines are given a neurotic examination, overexaggerating their importance through the magnifying glass of classic comedy writing. George *is*, in many ways, Larry himself. An unflinchingly accurate self-reflection on his own attitude, warts and all. But the difficulty in repositioning such a specific character made for a specific scenario is that there aren't small-time sitcoms in comics... except for Justice League International. This comic run from Keith Giffen and J.M. DeMatteis was lauded for how well it wove the '90s Seinfeld sensibility into superheroics. But the key here is superheroics. The normal, every day people in the JLI are one-shots at best because with comics, you have limited screen space. A complicated plot that relies on a heavy amount of dialogue - even in the Giffen Era League with a heavy premium put on textboxes - can't handle the landscape needed for a 50-page TV script. George flourishes in the back-and-forth and the minutiae - both things that ultimately are limited in a comic script. George would have to fill an entire issue by himself in order to get across his character, the things he needs to thrive on. And we just don't have room for that in comics. The hybridization of art with text becomes a limiting factor.

I wouldn't want to read Seinfeld, either. Half of the magic comes from the performance. The sarcasm sung like lyrics. The rhythm of an argument, the patter back and forth. You lose that in text alone. And as excellent as Seinfeld is, it works as a television show for a reason. The greatest shows simply can't be reduplicated in another medium. Still, I think there's room for a brief arc with George in comics, as briefly outlined above.

Old news.

Mondays are a busy day for me, so next write-ups coming in hot tomorrow!

Which is a bad sign for our anime nominees...