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ChichiriMuyo posted...

Marvel Comics losing talent over "creative differences" is nothing new. The upside is that they have the ability to attract most of the new talent that comes into the business by the simple fact that they're Marvel. I'm sure they'll get some really good talent on the X-Men in like 5 years or so, about the time when they might actually have room in their lineup for X-Men movies.

The X-Men line languished for a good ten years after the last big name departure. And while it's true that Marvel and DC can pull in new talent with ease, the market continues to dwindle and the focus continues to lay in capitalizing on new characters and storylines through film and television. Marvel continuously trading Mark Waid and Brian Bendis-types back and forth for the last ten years or so has done very little to inject new interest into comics. Yes, there are outliers, but the market continues to stagnate and decrease in overall readership because what had worked in the past is eschewed in favor of, like Hero said, brand synergy.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Only in that the restructuring of Marvel since Disney's purchase has seen the publishing division falling under executives who are also established in the other side of Marvel development - like Dan Buckley. I think readers have seen a shift from the more tried-and-true serialized story system to an IP generating farm system for potentially sellable products outside of the comic market. While that doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing, it's been my experience that having an eye on what comes after the comics often leaves the comics in the dust.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Disney and Warner Bros have both really done a number on their idea houses in the last five years especially - it's pretty disheartening.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I definitely understand the reviews that say "each episode is better than the last!"

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Now I'm editing these posts just for the fun of it.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Much like someone who feels the desperate need to creep on someone else's social media profiles to find some sense of dignity in their paper-thin personality built on movie opinions, clicking through the edits on a post is the hallmark of a person that desperately needs to find a sense of superiority where none can be found. As bad as some of these movie opinions are, "big time freak shit" might be the most singularly cringe-inducing phrase ever posted in one of these topics, and Poke couldn't remember who played Mushu.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

HashtagSEP posted...

I don't really think I'm a comic nerd at all, I know next to nothing that isn't in the movies. I just think the Harley character is kinda thin to basically be the center of three movies. Like somebody said, she's basically a meme machine instead of having actual depth, which was great at first but it's kinda wearing thin on me now.

I get why she has broad appeal, I'm just personally kinda over it.

I think that's part of the DC push to make her commercially viable. Unlike the well-regarded cult classic series of The Secret Six, DC was looking for commercial success rather than critical acclaim, so Harley lost the harder edge and truly unique psychological profile that I think gave us meat for the bone, rather than just a quirky sometimes-killer. Marvel and DC seem to both be going through this phase where they can't have truly evil or psychotic characters; they always need a little bit of an out.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Technically season 2 isn't over. The finale was put on hold due to Covid and its actually up in the air whether they will ever even finish it.

That's... absolutely untrue. It's back in September.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I had a good time with The Squad - it was an enjoyable enough romp for what it was. Honestly, I wish it had gone further than it did. It wasn't out there enough for me, personally. I had a couple other minor hang-ups with how we seem to be presenting the Squad as a whole - Waller yelling, for example, really felt out-of-character. After all, this is a woman who has watched her family be gunned down one-by-one in pointless street crime. I think origins of her character really don't lean to her being callous about innocent lives or being quite so politically gung-ho. In Checkmate, she is certainly more protective of American interests, but even there she has global interests at heart. She certainly makes morally gray decisions, but I've always read her (in the context of the morality of the time of a comics' publication) as oddly heroic. Here, her behavior just rubbed me the wrong way.

I also think more Harley needed to be cut from the film. The arc should have been the arc of a javelin, with Harley along for the ride, honestly. That five-minute hold-up with her Corto Maltesan boyfriend just did zippo for me.

That said, I think this was definitely a step in the right direction for a Suicide Squad movie. Raunchy and irreverent and ultimately touching on a few interests themes that I think will be cool to explore in Peacemaker's series.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Speaking of, are we using Kefkaesque for the Final Fantasy genre yet?

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I hesitate to explain everything over again since you seem to have difficulty with your second language here, but man, you want to talk about willful misreadings, quoting your own post would do the trick.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Zithers posted...

you know, people keep bringing up the rankings

Except I didn't bring up the numbers, bucko. What infuriates you as that you have a rigid view of what an opinion is, and if it's not yours, by God, someone needs to proselytize the good news of Sidney Lumet's Making Movies from your 2014 Film Criticism 201 class - not 101, of course, you made it all the way to the sophomore level of learning how to properly watch a movie, so step aside filmgoers!

The irony of your lambasting their "rigid" view is that you reveal you have an even MORE rigid view! It's like combating hunger by feeding people Soylent Green. Oh, look, there I go - referencing a middle brow movie like I'm real people or something equally as disgusting. Gosh, wasn't this board so much better before the plebeians were allow internet access?

The point being, you tried espousing your beliefs. No one cared. You tried again. No one cared. At what point do you stop peddling Christianity to the cannibals and take the L you so desperately want to avoid?

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Man, a human being using "normie" in actual conversation. You'd think you wouldn't want to undermine your falsified cinema snob persona with an undercurrent of chicken tendie-inspired never-saw-a-proper-noun-that-I-didn't-avoid-capping pseudo-criticism. It's classic Brideshead Revisted, if by Brideshead you mean Lasa's obsession with Truffaut's Law.

I mean, sure, some of these opinions come across like Stifled's kid hacked his account, but Christ, there has to be something more meaningful in life than imagining your opinions about movies that only serve to bring in tourism to Monument Valley are better than someone else's opinions about movies that only serve to bring in tourism to Monument Valley. I think the only thing worse than having bad opinions is to deliver them late. Due date was listed on the board for what? At least longer than it takes to finish Zack Snyder's Justice League. You had time to sign up. I mean, clearly, judging by the sheer volume of posts here that make LMS' deluge of Episode VIII posts look like the Cliff's Notes version of Old Man and the Sea.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Jesse_Custer posted...

I thought it was great and conveys the essence of the comic book medium on film probably better than any other comic book movie.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I would get this criticism for WWE, which, again, has no over talent aside from Roman and Cena at the moment, but for a company that is extremely hot? It feels like needless armchair quarterbacking.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

One of the reasons so much of the talent is over is because of those story-light programs that allow lower card talent to get wins.

And I really have to say, featuring someone on TV every week doesn't make them a star. Case in point - WWE.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Considering they have a FOURTH show coming (not a second), I fail to see how they meet the standards of bloated.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Balthier

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Ktjn

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Well, that's the end of me willingly watching the GenoSamuel channel.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Ktjn

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Jessie

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

After 25 seasons, he finally has a reason to tightly clench that fist.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/arthur-canceled-end-25-seasons-1235029451/

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Cid H

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Jessie

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Ktjn

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Cid H

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Jessie

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Ktjn

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Fake Doctors, Real Friends

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Jessie.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Jessie

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Ktjn.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Ktjn

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Grand Kirby posted...

They could have called them the Legal Custodians.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Cid H

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Ktjn

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I'll do you one better about VII, and say that you HAVE to do VII before doing Remake. It definitely enhances the experience significantly.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

And here I thought Warcraft III would be the worst thing Blizzard employees ever did.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

SeabassDebeste posted...

yeah, i think they said something about giving stephen dillane the "dignity" or something of not having his beheading shown or something

but it was just terrible storytelling

I don't know if it's bad stortelling per se, but it is maybe bad direction if there isn't a more reasonable explanation for not having that visual.

Unless that reason is that we didn't see a body, so he isn't dead. GoT Season 9: Stannis Returns.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Sound of Music. The hills are alive, man. Chills, running down my spine.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Suprak the Stud posted...

Oh phew Jessie survived.

Good job FF7 crew

I'm up to trade with you for Jessie whenever I can. Great character.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

StifledSilence posted...

I can usually agree with that. What he did to his daughter made me want blood, however. Parent emotions are powerful lol

Oh, for sure. But I tend to blame that on the seduction of Melisandre, more than anything. He is just too easily swayed by her, in the end. Without my boy Davos there to right the ship, he was doomed to succumb to her manipulations.

banananor posted...

i thought stannis was very believable and an important character to have in order to fill out the world, even if he didn't really carry the heavy charisma normally required of a main character/winner

Yeah, he definitely doesn't have charisma, but something about his insight into Jon Snow and his respect for him really inspired confidence in me that he was, in this terribly dark and broken world, a better leader than most. Which is insane, I realize, when I take a step back and really examine things. That's a testament to the writing, I guess!

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

LiquidOshawott posted...

I have been in the mood to rewatch this show but instead its usually something like, Mare of Eastown or Watchmen

I think when I tried before S8 I was put a little aback by how young everyone was

Watchmen certainly isn't a bad choice! I probably will rewatch it once a little more time has passed since its ending.

StifledSilence posted...

I was actually pretty glad when Brienne ended his watch because I personally didnt like him. That said, I do wish they did more with him before then.

I used to have a similar mindset about characters I didn't like personally, but now I kind of have reached this point that well-written characters I hate challenge me, and I appreciate that experience.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

UltimaterializerX posted...

Good topic.

I think the show fell off for some pretty obvious reasons beyond him, though. Sadly.

I think they had made some poor decisions early on for simplicity's sake that ended up biting them in the ass. You combine that with shortening season length... yeah, there are institutional problems with the last couple seasons, for sure.

Still, I do love the show, and I am a "journey over destination" person, by and large.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Yeah, I guess we're fortunate that there wasn't too much of him past that point. I know the odds are slim, but I greatly look forward to seeing Stannis' story in the books. In all honesty, I understand that that might be the role he has to play with Jon's ascension, but I'd live to get a little more meat of the bone beforehand.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Thanks for shitting all over my topic with your stock-basic negative opinions. Really fosters discussion.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

the storyline of Stannis Baratheon. Unflinchingly dark, filled with a unique complexity of honor and a certain lust for power... the show fell off without Stannis on it. Man, what an intriguing character. I think I really overlooked just how fantastic his story was, from start to finish.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Jessie

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Ktjn

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful