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Goats posted...

That kinda works against limited format though, which needs randomized packs to build your deck out of. Will that be affected scyther?

drafts will have to be retooled to be free but you don't get to keep the random cards you open. They can make you pay just to access the mode at all however.
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kirbymuncher posted...

The last point about targetted toward minors and the point against age gating make "targetted toward minors" a blanket term that catches almost every game on the market

age gating just isn't mentioned in the bill. It doesn't explicitly ban age gating, just that there's no special exemptions for doing it.

The bill was just proposed, it will probably be modified to allow age gating exemptions but as it is written now it does not.
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Goats posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

The current forms will cease to exist. They can adopt a LCG model like how FFG does their card games and probably be okay.

Yeah, how would this work kecleon?

FFG's LCG card games boosters have predetermined cards that are known to you ahead of time.

i.e. if you're looking for a specific card, you can just look up the card on a website somewhere and it'll tell you which booster pack you have to buy to get it. The boosters will contain 3 of each copy of every card in it so you only ever need to buy one booster to get the maximum amount of cards you can use in a deck.
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Veggeta X posted...

Are YGO booster packs considered lootboxes?

Yes.

Alkaloid posted...

If this passes, will it kill electronic versions of CCGs? (MTG Online/Arena, Hearthstone, Warhammer, Pokemon, etc)

Cuz I really like MTGA, ngl, though building decks as a free player takes awhile, especially if you're new or bad

The current forms will cease to exist. They can adopt a LCG model like how FFG does their card games and probably be okay.

Veggeta X posted...

So gachas on mobile will still be a thing. FML.

Not if this bill passes.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

it is known to the publisher that some of its players are minors (basically every game except for hentai games)

Simple workaround:

This has traditionally been a death sentence for games.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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This is all subject to change as legislators argue about it.

Only applies to games targeted to minors
a game is definined as targeted to minors if:
- it uses art or story designed to appeal to minors (e.g. Mario)
- it features casts of minor characters (lots of JRPGs)
- it features minor celebrities (the hannah montana game)
- it features adult celebrities that appeal to minors (Shaq Fu)
- it is known to the publisher that some of its players are minors (basically every game except for hentai games)

The bill does not permit age-gating
It applies if your game is targeted towards minors. Asking users to verify their age beforehand is not taken into consideration.

It only legislates pay to win mechanics
A pay to win mechanic is defined as
- Any content that increases accessibility or provides a competitive advantage (e.g. Darth Vader)
- Permits accomplishing difficult tasks in an easier fashion (pay to complete now or wait 20 hours)
- Is required to achieve certain milestones or objectives (it's impossible to defeat this boss in 15 seconds for this reward unless you have this specific item)
- It generally changes gameplay or features of the game available to players

pay to win mechanics are exempt from this bill if it meets one of the following criteria
- It is a new stage or mode (COD Map Packs)
- It does not change competitive advantage (new characters in a MOBA, so long as they are balanced with there rest of the roster)

pay to win mechanics which do provide a competitive advantage are permitted if it meets all of the following criteria
- The advantage is not mandatory for ANY content, including achievements
- It costs a fixed, non variable amount for all players (no random loot boxes, only al-a-carte purchasing)
- The purchase of the content is not required to compete
- The purchase can only be purchased once (i.e. no consumable potion buffs)

it is NOT a ban on loot boxes so long as...
- The loot boxes contain only cosmetic modifications OR
- The loot boxes are in a game that is not defined as targeted towards minors
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Never played the first one. What makes this one so great? Like, sell the game to me. I know you can play a lot of different Mario levels. But what is that such a big deal?

If you don't like Mario Platformers, then this game probably won't change your mind.

If you DO like Mario Platformers but are wondering why bother with another one, here are some of the cool things here you won't find anywhere else.

1. Create your own levels
2. Play other people's levels
3. The ability to play in the styles of 5 different Mario games simultaneously (SMB, SMB3, SMW, NSMB, SM3DW) and potentially more to come
4. Stages are generally not what you'll find in official mario games. You'll find things like automario levels, weird puzzle levels, and so on. So even if the platforming bores you, there's a lot of interesting different things to do here.

Like, here's some levels I made in the Wii U version.



The community is also fun to engage with.
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marc55 posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

Difficulty modes, additional levels, and similar things are explicitly excluded

many games add those things for free so this bill may force people to pay for them ?

and people here thinks thats good????????????????????

The bill doesn't force people to pay for anything. It only prohibits selling certain things.

The exemption looks like it was specifically trying to allow things like COD Map packs or Neptunia series' level 999 colliseum shit.

(I think the colliseum shit is all free actually but something like that)
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Alpha218 posted...

Hairistotle posted...

is it gonna be switch exclusive? i have a curiosity about mario maker but i feel like I'll do it for like an hour and then abandon it like i did with garrys mod and minecraft

Its a Mario game... yeah its Switch exclusive. Unless youre talking about the 3DS, and I highly doubt 2 is getting ported like 1 was.

IIRC they officially announced no new 1st party games for 3DS except for things that were already in development.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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The dude was socially awkward as fuck but he wasn't bitter about it the way incels are. He didn't spend like 90% of his time posting on the internet with self deprecating memes about how he wants to hang himself. The only stereotypical incel shit he had was the wall of figurines.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Sackgurl posted...

not to defend this practice, but the bill would kill games like Path of Exile, which are dependent on having a casual mode of play for people playing through the game's story for free, and a more indepth mode (maps) at high levels that really is dependent on people buying the currency stash.

PoE is free to play, and generally not seen as exploitative. all its microtransactions other than the stash tab are totally not needed and largely cosmetic, but the currency stash tab is their #1 source of income

Difficulty modes, additional levels, and similar things are explicitly excluded. Additionally, gameplay-affecting microtransactions are still allowed provided that, 1: you do not NEED to buy them in order to complete portions of the game that you already have access to, and 2: they do not cost a variable amount of money.

Basically microtransactions to unlock things like new characters in a MOBA are okay as long as there is not a random chance to unlock those characters, nor are those characters overpowered and you need to have them to reasonably compete.

People are dramatically overstating the affects of what is being banned, and dramatically understating what kinds of games are under the umbrella of this ban.

This bill is laser focused on pay-to-win lootboxes but targets basically all video games. Any video game that doesn't have pay-to-win loot boxes won't be affected for the most part. The only other type of microtransaction that is banned are ones where you can pay to have a competitive advantage, like, if they made a boss that was literally impossible to beat unless you bought this very specific character.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Who dis?
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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burritosatan posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

Still waiting for him to send Hillary to jail. What happened?

No point when natural causes will take care of the issue sooner than later

I guess that's why he's pardoning those murderers and war criminals and actual traitors like Libby? Cause natural causes gonna get them, too.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Still waiting for him to send Hillary to jail. What happened?
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Sexypwnstar posted...

Helel

That's the Hebrew transliteration of the name that was eventually turned into Lucifer in the King James Bible
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Antifar posted...

Anyways, he's still in congress and his Twitter account likes white nationalist stuff:
https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1131755152136970240

That's kinda funny since Cyrus the Great existed.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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EbonTitanium posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

EbonTitanium posted...

Satan is a role/title
Lucifer isn't a name

Satan is pretty fucking clearly a name. So is Lucifer what the fuck it's literally a name that means Light Bringer.

Lucifer wasn't a name, It's a Latin word which was used for an angel in general.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

Lucifer (/lusfr/ LEW-si-fr; "light-bringer") is a Latin name for the planet Venus as the morning star in the ancient Roman era

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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Ricemills posted...

fat Thor on a Thor movie remake.

Preordered
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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toadfan64 posted...

The Dems and Republicans haven't always been the top 2 parties,

I mean yeah they kind of have.

Washington didn't have a party, John Adams ran as what was called a Federalist back then and he ended up being so unpopular that the Federalists never won anything again, and the reign of Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans party took over. We we're basically 1 party until John Quincy Adams defeated Andrew Jackson with a corrupt backdoor deal. This caused a schism in the party causing it to separate into Democrats, headed up by Andrew Jackson, and Republicans. Andrew Jackson fucking wrecked and Republicans popularity tanked.

There was a brief bullshit with the "Whigs" but the party sucked and were only around for a few elections and one of their presidents was William Henry Harrison who did nothing and then died.

So basically, subtracting Washington, John Adams, and 3.01 Whig presidents, everyone else was a Democrat or Republican (or a Democratic-Republicans which was just the two parties merged)
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Edge is literally just chrome now.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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EbonTitanium posted...

Satan is a role/title
Lucifer isn't a name

Satan is pretty fucking clearly a name. So is Lucifer what the fuck it's literally a name that means Light Bringer.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Pelicon
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Cohen: Am I a Joke to you?
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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AttackUp posted...

TheGreatGeno326 posted...

Satan only killed ~10 people.

God killed tens of millions, according to the bible

More like Satan is a mobster boss who got other people to do his dirty work for him

The other people is just God and his chosen prophets and messiahs
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Vita_Aeterna posted...

Which games are going to be affected by this, exactly?

Like I said earlier

Tyranthraxus posted...

This bill only affects minor oriented games which are defined as games designed to appeal to minors through use of artwork, age of characters, featuring minor celebrities OR adult celebrities that appeal to minors (like Mr. Rogers or something), OR any game to where it is known to the publisher that some players are under 18.

In short, it pretty much affects everything worth playing except for hentai games.

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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Yeah. A God that just lets people invoke his name to justify all kinds of atrocities is a shitty God.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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ultimate reaver posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

That's nice. Have you considered thinking about people other than yourself for a minute or two?

I have no idea how you could take a post where I'm saying that clearly there are a lot of people involved in the situation and not one universal opinion and somehow manage to twist that around to "have you considered not being selfish," but clearly there's something real special going on there

Your entire post is a giant paragraph explaining how you doing care because it doesn't affect you and you wouldn't care even if it did.

Well I care how it affects other people. It's wrong and predatory. I don't smoke, will never smoke, don't ever have to go to a smoking area, but that doesn't mean I can't take issue with tobacco business for its morally repugnant practices.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Gamers rise up
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Anteaterking posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

It's not. That's an argument meaningful to me and you.

I know that's not what the bill is saying, it's what you said.

Because I was asked why someone should care about lootboxes if they don't play games that feature them.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Anteaterking posted...

I don't like microtransactions, but I'm not sure "Hey, who cares about the implications, they make games worse!" is a meaningful argument for the bill.

It's not. That's an argument meaningful to me and you. This bill is arguing that it's to protect minors.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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GasMonkey posted...

interesting. i guess because its a video game it never crossed my mind about the scratcher comparison. "both are a fool and his money" to me.

Scratch offs are already regulated as gambling so agreeing with the comparison has a darker outlook than this law does.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Ricemills posted...

so back to "are you over 18" check box again?

No. You don't get to make a game like Marvel Strike Force and claim it's for adults because you added a checkbox. That's not how the law is written specifically because of that shit.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Isn't a herring a fish?
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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ultimate reaver posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

ultimate reaver posted...

GasMonkey posted...

serious question to those who like loot boxes.

why?

its clearly a scam. pay untold amounts of money in hopes the RNG gods will bless you?

wouldnt you prefer to just outright buy the item youre going for instead of a gamble?

I don't like lootboxes very much but I also have no problem with people spending their money how they like. I didn't give a shit about all the people buying scratch cards and lotto tickets when i worked in a supermarket, why would i care about lootboxes

Because lootboxes are detrimental to video games in general.

Weird because I can just not play overwatch or Battlefield or Fifa or whatever and still have way more games than I could ever forseeably play with minimal or no micro transactions. And even if I couldn't and they were more widspread outside of a handful of genres, I still wouldn't care because just because it takes away from a game for me doesn't mean it does for the many other people who clearly either don't let it affect them or enjoy them

That's nice. Have you considered thinking about people other than yourself for a minute or two?
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Ricemills posted...

so other games than minor oriented are untouched?
whelp, thanks for the false hopes.

This is a little confusing so I'm going to try and clarify.

This bill only affects minor oriented games which are defined as games designed to appeal to minors through use of artwork, age of characters, featuring minor celebrities OR adult celebrities that appeal to minors (like Mr. Rogers or something), OR any game to where it is known to the publisher that some players are under 18.

In short, it pretty much affects everything worth playing except for hentai games.
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It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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ultimate reaver posted...

GasMonkey posted...

serious question to those who like loot boxes.

why?

its clearly a scam. pay untold amounts of money in hopes the RNG gods will bless you?

wouldnt you prefer to just outright buy the item youre going for instead of a gamble?

I don't like lootboxes very much but I also have no problem with people spending their money how they like. I didn't give a shit about all the people buying scratch cards and lotto tickets when i worked in a supermarket, why would i care about lootboxes

Because lootboxes are detrimental to video games in general.

Edit: also they're not even being banned. Only "pay to win" lootboxes are being banned. Shit like overwatch is completely unaffected.
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Ricemills posted...

I'm just concerned that their approach was only with "protect the children".
it means game developers could have just put a "are you over 18" checkbox or raise the esrb rating and done.
especially when the adults are the main victims of these lootbox and gacha craps.

That is incorrect. You are explicitly not allowed to enable lootboxes with an update in minor oriented games. It doesn't matter if the person playing them is an adult.
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TheGreatGeno326 posted...

I can't believe theres a republican bill I actually support

First time for everything

It has bipartisan support
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DarthAragorn posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

What if they expand the game enough that it warrants two full games? People just immediately assume the worst. I'd wait until E3 info honestly.

Be realistic. They won't.

That's literally their stated mission
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fusespliff posted...

Is that a freaking Sejic strip? If so...where did you get it and are there more?

Yes. There are more.


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Only or one of the only? What the fuck does that mean? How many people are needed to meet the minimum threshold to not be considered only?
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Blue_Inigo posted...

What kind of psycho shitbag would want this?

The kind that thinks their dog will go to heaven with them if they do this
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

Half a watermelon is greater than a whole apple.

If I wanted a Final Fantasy full of intolerable seeds, I'd play FF8.

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mech dragon posted...

Thanks for understanding my post despite the typo and for posting the pics. I don't really see the differences though. To me, they're the same face in different art styles (anime drawing vs 3D rendering emulating realistic face).

Eyebrow shape is different, eye shape is different. nose contour is different. lip thickness was increased, and her jaw / neck had some small shape adjustments. There's also a significant hairstyle change but that screencap was also taken basically in the middle of a fight and I can't recall if she had that hair going into the fight or not.

Overall this isn't really significantly different than a magazine touch up artist, but if you compare both dissidia and the AC versions to the original art, the dissidia version looks much closer to it.
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deupd_u posted...

BalanceLost posted...

Forcing a minor to give birth to her rapists baby? Yes!

Which, as we know, is a scenario that occurs to 118% of women

Gay wedding cakes are also pretty rare
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mech dragon posted...

Can someone who me a comparison of Tifa's face from FF7 and Advent Children?

Advent Children face is pretty different.

Original official:


Dissidia Duodecim 012:


Advent Children:

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Solar_Crimson posted...

CRON posted...

AlisLandale posted...

No turn based no buy

Why would anyone want turn-based gameplay in 2019?

Why not?

You can't have this super realistic looking game and then make characters bob up and down like a mortal kombat arcade where all the buttons are broken until a random menu pops up asking what option (of which like 40 are available but only 2 or 3 are worth using at any given time) they'd like to do at which point the game plays itself for a little while, then back to broken mortal kombat arcade.
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EnragedSlith posted...

Thats extremely weird and irresponsible. You think its to get people to quit?

nah I've seen this kind of shit happen before.

Company X buys company Y. Company Y is out of compliance with Company X's standards. Company X's CISO or CEO who hasn't even looked at what the hell they just bought says "do whatever you have to do to get it into compliance by this Friday." CTO says "There might be an outage." CEO is like "I don't care." and this is the result.
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