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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/04/20 12:35:44 AM
#472
Kanye West officially concedes.

You hate to see it.

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 11:05:50 PM
#411
Like I'm confused where all of these energized Joe Biden fans are. Because surely if he had energized fans they could say anything positive about him aside from "Kamala Harris wears Timbs!"

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 10:59:04 PM
#405
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
clearly Biden did a great job of energizing the voter base compared to lame duck Clinton.
Covid-19 did literally all the work energizing a vote base. Biden didn't do shit to convince anyone to vote.

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 10:56:35 PM
#402
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
So you mean that as soon as the field wasn't completely diluted by 10 similar candidates, Bernie couldn't break 20%? You'd think someone that frequents this board of all places would understand Multi-Poll SFF/LFF.

All Biden needed to do was say that BLM rioters should be arrested, and illegal immigrants should be deported, and he would win in a landslide, and be able to implement some ACTUAL progressive policies like universal healthcare
I forgot when Chrono, Cloud, Sephiroth, and Samus all said "YO VOTE FOR MARIO HE'S THE BEST." The primaries are flawed to begin with. There wasn't even a single debate between Biden and Bernie before it was pretty much over. People just overwhelmingly voted after nobody in the primaries supported Bernie before he could get a chance to explain why he's a better candidate than Joe Biden.

And Biden never wanted any progressive policies. He could barely explain with any conviction or coherency any progressive policies he supported.

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 10:46:05 PM
#391
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Bernie couldn't win the fucking primaries. He wasn't even COMPETITIVE. This is the thing I don't understand about the Bernie bros, he wasn't enough to energize his supporters to actually vote in the primaries, why would the actual election be any different.

The other thing that absolutely tanks this moronic opinion, is that Trump is winning despite record turnouts. Biden got people to vote, it just wasn't enough and the absolute joke that the democrat platform on illegals and BLM riots absolutely destroyed any credibility they had with moderates.
He absolutely got more people to vote in the primaries until the DNC formed the Voltron behind Biden against him.

And it's fucking wild that you think people are going out there to vote because of Joe Biden rather than despite him. As if there isn't a concentrated campaign from every celebrity and politician saying "go out and vote". At this point, the same thing would happen out of a desperation to get Trump out of there. There is not a single person in this country who said "I'm going to go out because Joe Biden told me to vote."

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 10:38:50 PM
#386
Like Trump constantly made shots about Hunter Biden and it blew up into this big thing. What could he say about Bernie like that?

Bernie would have actual policies and not the incoherent ass pulls that the Biden/Harris campaign had, and Bernie could explain those a hell of a lot better than Biden and his vagueness.

And there would be people who actually WANT Bernie's policies and could spread the word about it. What could people possibly say about Joe Biden other than "He's not Donald Trump"?

Anyone thinking Bernie would do worse here is just wrong.

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 10:30:35 PM
#376
red13n posted...
Trump basiclally ran on the idea that Biden was Bernie Sanders.

There is little evidence to say Bernie does any better here.
I mean he doesn't have skeletons in his closet and he can coherently get his points across, which is more than can be said about Biden. The entire Biden campaign was as clear as mud from the start.

Keep in mind Biden won the nomination by barely doing anything and beating the improved young person vote with a record breaking olds vote. Nobody is freaking excited about him. At least people were excited about Bernie and could try to move forward with positivity and anything but "Oh we need to end the nightmare. We need to get Trump out!"

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 10:24:25 PM
#362
neonreaper posted...
Ive been saying Trump repeats. I think it got down to a coin flip but back in his favor with the riots. Its not a fun thing to say.
I think this is significant too.

The explicit lack of an answer to "will you pack the supreme court" probably didn't make any Republicans that were considering voting blue feel any better either. Like fuck at least give a bullshit "We don't plan to" answer.

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 9:37:28 PM
#325
Wanglicious posted...
you're not wrong on the first one no matter what. Biden if he wins means he barely managed to beat a man who, in his election year:

mishandled a pandemic
had race riots
is in the middle of a depression
and trump got sick one month before the election putting his age and unhealthy habits up front.

by all accounts he should be crushing it but he's not. he's a horrible candidate. if he loses, i chalk it to the greatest master act of grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.
This is what I'm talking about. The fact that the candidate is only "fine" right now is just absolutely pathetic.

I may be more pessimistic about the results now, but I was feeling the same way about Trump's win last election and it ended up happening much of the same way.

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
11/03/20 9:27:51 PM
#313
Joe Biden is such a fucking embarrassing candidate and the DNC learning absolutely nothing from this is going to be the saddest thing about this loss.

I hope I'm wrong on both accounts.

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TopicElection 2020 Statistics and Discussion
PrivateBiscuit1
10/28/20 2:12:48 PM
#155
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
The Electoral College is a momentously stupid system, but was implemented to solve the problem of heavily populated urban areas dictating policy decisions that would adversely affect rural populations. Going to a "popular vote" system would be just as stupid, but there has to be a better way.
It made sense for when it was created, and a similar system should be in place so the election isn't essentially decided by 3-4 states, but the electoral college is definitely extremely dated at this point.

Which means it'll never change gg.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 311: Ye says Nay
PrivateBiscuit1
07/22/20 7:58:38 PM
#391
Between Biden saying we've never had a racist president before Trump to saying that nurses used to blow into his nose and whisper in his ear after his aneurysm surgeries, he's really proving he needs to just hide in a hole until election day.

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TopicDeadly Premonition 2: A Blessing in Disguise review zone
PrivateBiscuit1
07/22/20 3:36:07 AM
#78
Excited for the SuperGreatFriend series on this.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 10
PrivateBiscuit1
07/20/20 12:07:47 AM
#221
Corrik7 posted...
I'm not so sure teachers are paid less than cops on average or firefighters tbqh.
Depends on the district and how tenured they are.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/19/20 11:26:32 PM
#498
So I heard this show described as great wrestling, but horrible booking choices that make people feel bad for the wrestlers involved.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 10
PrivateBiscuit1
07/19/20 2:57:03 PM
#198
I can understand people being disenfranchised with the idea of wearing a mask. It's pretty disheartening being in the Bay Area where we've been under quarantine for longer than everyone but Seattle and our numbers keep going up despite following all guidelines. It's fucking obnoxious to see things not get better and people protesting wearing a mask among other things. So I understand not wanting to wear one anymore and feeling like there's no point and seeing things only get worse while people are wearing masks.

That said, logically you should just wear a fucking mask. Just do it.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 8:53:29 PM
#486
Yeah, I find that clause extremely fucking weird, unless it's in other Impact contracts. Unless they're used to hiring people who might have shitty pasts like Sami Callihan and Tessa and said "If we put this here, at least we don't need to fire them for things they did." I don't know. I don't know why you would draft someone's contract like that. I don't know what it says exactly.

It's honestly such a strange video and I've seen people already saying stuff like "He mentions Hana Kimura and equates it to her!" when he said his accuser made some extremely shitty comments telling him that he needs to die and to kill him as evidence that she's a vile person (which is on top of him completely debunking her story), but he never actually mentions Hana at all but just that there was an anti-suicide movement in the community.

There's also people who refuse to even listen and think he's completely full of shit without listening and that everything he's offering with some people being cool and super friendly with him up to just a month before this and messaging him out of the blue to check on him but then coming out with their own stories adds to his defenses too. I went into this thinking he's probably full of it and expecting terrible excuses, but there's a lot of valid reasons to buy a lot of his defenses in it that people are just discounting.

I don't know that he's innocent of everything. I don't know that anyone will know for sure. But there's people who clearly made shit up, and that's fucking wrong and hurts the validity of those who may have suffered actual assault or harassment. Like I don't know why Vanessa Kraven even butted in at all when her claims, as far as I can tell, are that he flirted with her, they kissed once and he put moved on her that she refused and he backed off, and that he filmed her body in an objectifying way on their talk show (which he explains that he didn't intend to, but he was trying to hold the camera in a different way because they didn't have a working tripod or something and he couldn't see where he was filming enough).

He also cited Candace LeRae for some of these, like an incident where a 16 year old was at a bar and they were shocked and weirded out she was allowed there, and so they both invited her to hang out after to not make her feel uncomfortable. Like, I'm willing to buy his word at something like that.

I think he did this in an attempt to save his career, but I think people are already like "20 accusers fuck this guy" and don't want to even give him an attempt to defend himself, which I think is unfair. Even if it's bullshit, at least let someone attempt to defend himself. I don't think he ever goes back to wrestling, even if he's completely innocent of all of this. I don't know that we'll get any lawsuits from this or not though.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 8:14:53 PM
#484
So I got through the whole thing.

Overall, it really does seem like he's telling the truth about all of the accusations he's talking about. He had a lot of text messages to back up stuff. In particular, the ex that he had choked and spit on and whatnot appears to have wanted that sort of roughness and he said it was a toxic relationship with examples of toxicity on both of their ends. There's also explanations for a lot of things wherein he just said he made a move and was turned down and he backed off, which seems like the case for a decent number of these. The Rok-C thing, too, is like entirely bogus too.

I don't know if he addressed all of them or not, and he had a lot more examples for them, and a couple defenses are probably not really phrased very well and seem dubious, and his whole conclusion has a whole "I found God again" kind of speech. A couple of his defenses were also predicated by "I was very wasted there."

He also says that Impact said they were going to do an investigation publicly, didn't actually contact him at all until they said they were firing him via email, and then made a statement saying they had released him. Also, his contract says he can't be fired for anything that happened before he signed the contract which is... a strange clause, but it opens up for a pretty clear lawsuit if what he said about the contract and investigation is true.

I dunno. I feel like a lot of his defenses were extremely strong for some cases which makes me feel better about the ones that he didn't have as much of a defense for? I dunno. It leaves me in a weird place because there are some things that are absolutely 100% false that he completely debunks, but more could be true and there were so many that I find it hard to believe that he's completely innocent?

I guess I feel better to some degree about Joey Ryan, but it's a fucking bizarre feeling.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 7:07:31 PM
#482
Joey Ryan just released an hour long video to debunk the allegations. I only watched the first few minutes, but he seems pretty confident that he can debunk all of them.

https://youtu.be/faXJHHMqzpU

Edit: Oh, wow. He actually showed the entire DMs from one of the accusers that pretty much backs up his story entirely. I don't know if the rest are this concrete, but it at least seems like he's going the whole way to back up his claims.

More Edit: Second claim seems pretty cut and dry too. I won't say that he's completely innocent, but so far it's pretty clear that the first two people he's brought up were absolutely lying.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 5:55:26 PM
#478
StealThisSheen posted...
I don't really understand why this is an argument.

"This piece of shit wanted them fired."
"No, it was this piece of shit!"
I'm sorry you don't understand but I guess I can explain it to you more clearly.

Vince is saying that Heyman is the reason Gallows and Anderson are fired. AJ and the Good Brothers are agreeing with that while also ignoring that Vince is the only one who makes the decision who is fired or not.

It doesn't matter what Heyman said, if Heyman even said anything at all. Vince fired them and it's ultimately his choice so their anger is misplaced.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 5:35:13 PM
#474
IIRC, Crews was made champ the day of the George Floyd murder and subsequent outrage. Not that it matters too much. I'm just pointing out the black wrestlers/fans discussing it. And it's besides the point anyway that there's a noted history of people being Paul Heyman guys and then Vince letting them be pushed for less than a month before being completely forgotten and ignored. That's my point. And Heyman was weeks away from being removed as head producer on RAW as well. They don't give a shit about his opinion, let alone enough to let him be the reason anyone gets fired.

This is literally like all the times people said "Oh, Vince loved me and wanted me to stay, but Johnny Ace/Jim Ross/Paul Heyman..." Vince has a history of passing the blame on people being fired onto literally anyone else, when it's always his choice. He can say "Oh, Heyman wanted them fired" all he wants, but nobody so much as farts in WWE without his say so. Vince wanted Anderson and Gallows fired, so he fired them. It doesn't matter what reason--if he wanted them to stay employed, they would be employed still. Heyman didn't trick anyone, and it doesn't matter if he pushed for it for some bizarre reason.

And please note that they were fired after they were convinced to stay with WWE in the first place because they were told their jobs would be secure. And that they were released when WWE made their record breaking financial quarter. During a pandemic.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 1:03:32 PM
#467
If you can't see that Apollo Crews being champion is coinciding with a current movement going on strong today, I don't know what to tell you. WWE is opportunistic and black wrestlers on Twitter have been talking about this the past couple of days.

Let's also keep in mind that it's still Vince's choice to fire Gallows and Anderson. Ultimately, he made that decision, and it doesn't matter what anyone else said, it was still Vince's choice to fire them. When his company had a record breaking financial quarter. During a pandemic. They didn't even need to be fired because WWE is still in tremendous financial stability.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 12:49:41 PM
#463
So what's to stop them from continuing the stable when they come back since it was working? And why are you ignoring that there's still no reason they would listen to Heyman on anything and that there's no motivation at all for Heyman to go out of his way to get them fired? Like imagine believing Vince McMahon on anything. Heyman isn't trustworthy either, but he has no fucking power. Vince constantly lies to talent and would say whatever he had to in order to make AJ not upset with him and his company.

Also, another thing they mentioned was that the only reason Gallows and Anderson were feeling less panicked with the Saudi Arabia hostage situation was because Randy Orton was there. Because they thought WWE would be willing to let the midcard die, but not Orton. lol

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 12:36:49 PM
#460
Don't have plans for... Gallows and Anderson continuing their stable with AJ Styles? Like they had been before they were released?

Also, they didn't listen to Paul Heyman on who to push for more than four weeks. Why would they listen to him if he went "Yo you should fire these guys." I can see maybe, huge maybe, that they went to Heyman and asked if he had any plans for them before releasing them, but there is no part of me that Heyman went out of his way to say who WWE should fire and they listened to him, when they gave so little shits about his opinion that they just let him go from his position.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 12:21:03 PM
#456
Yeah, but why would they listen to Heyman of all people on who to release? They had such a low opinion of him they just let him go again. Why would they listen to him on who should be released when they never listened to him at any point of his career in WWE on anything else?

Also, Mike Bennett and Maria Kanellis are talking about some really disgusting stuff they were told while in WWE to keep them employed before they were ultimately released as well.

Edit: Also, Bennett apparently never went to WWE for rehab at all and he kicked drugs all on his own.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/20 11:23:49 AM
#452
AJ is also kind of a dummy who actually believes that Vince wouldn't just say it was Heyman to get heat off himself. I don't buy it at all.

Also, the most appalling thing was Hunter guilting Anderson and saying he should think of his kids and sign with WWE over AEW because WWE is more secure. And six months later Karl Anderson is released during their record breaking financial quarter over a "money saving measure".

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Topicoh no I was banned from ERA
PrivateBiscuit1
07/17/20 1:56:24 PM
#11
ResetEra is where miserable people go when they get bored and want to make issues out of nothing. Sometimes it's valid, but there's so many times where they're just vile, awful people who just want to claim problems where there are none to make people and developers feel bad for stuff they've done that is innocuous.

I don't follow it enough, and I'm sure that the valid complaints outnumber the invalid ones, but I can't imagine being on a forum like that where you can't even disagree with someone without getting a ban.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/16/20 4:46:16 PM
#447
NXT:

Males 12-34 got a 0.02.

50+ demo got 0.36.

Just fucking market to the olds at this point. You can't get anyone young to watch this show.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Final-Cable-2020-Jul-15-WED.png

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/16/20 4:33:57 PM
#446
Jericho aka The Demo God doubled NXT in the double during his segment.

And it looks like AEW is back to winning out against NXT. Honestly? I think Mox is that much of a draw. Him having to pull out for his title match the last two weeks and then the week he comes back there's a boom.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/16/20 3:30:41 AM
#444
Hasn't Jericho actually been in the highest rated segment in the demo every single week in both shows? I remember that being the case for the first few months of AEW.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure this is just another excuse to give himself another dumb nickname.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/16/20 12:07:57 AM
#436
Vickie Guerrero is the manager for Nyla Rose. Vickie can cut one hell of a promo. It was probably better than anything I can remember her doing in WWE honestly.

Her theme song in AEW is absolute hell though dear god.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/15/20 10:59:51 PM
#435
FTR vs. Lucha Bros is about as awesome as anyone could expect. And it still feels like they held back and had a huge opportunity for an even more amazing rematch in the future.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/15/20 10:40:57 PM
#434
I fucking love the Butcher's driving glasses.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/15/20 10:34:30 PM
#433
Watching AEW right now. Sonny Kiss vs. Cody was pretty awesome. It's the first time I've ever really cared about Sonny Kiss. Cody's been doing a good job of getting people over with the TNT Title.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 311: Ye says Nay
PrivateBiscuit1
07/15/20 10:31:28 PM
#62
What is with this topic where people can get so fired up about a conversation about an international food section?

Who honestly gives a shit?

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 498 - In Your House
PrivateBiscuit1
07/15/20 8:14:06 PM
#425
Oh hey, Ivelisse looks like she was signed with AEW, and Diamante may have an actual contract as well.

I've always liked Ivelisse, but I hear she has a bad rep backstage? Hoping she doesn't piss off people.

Actually I hope they sign Tessa now so we can get a rematch of their Lucha Underground match they never released where they both refused to go home.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 311: Ye says Nay
PrivateBiscuit1
07/15/20 6:56:48 PM
#39
Yeah, I was referring to Giant Eagle and Shop N Save and such. Giant Eagle in Robinson was a fancy ass one that was more like a Whole Foods. It had a giant section for international food. However, I don't recall seeing an international section in regular ones.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 311: Ye says Nay
PrivateBiscuit1
07/15/20 6:34:39 PM
#27
Wendy's got hit with this hack too.

https://twitter.com/Wendys/status/1283517028524064774?s=19

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 311: Ye says Nay
PrivateBiscuit1
07/15/20 5:20:43 PM
#8
Since I'm from the Pittsburgh area, I can vouch for Corrik that depending on where you are around there, there's no international aisles in most grocery stores. I had one when I lived in Robinson area but that's the only place I've seen it in that area.

It's also worth noting that there is like no diversity in the Pittsburgh area either. White, black, and anything else is like an immense rarity.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
PrivateBiscuit1
07/14/20 6:04:54 PM
#415
I find it really strange that they wouldn't report it like that at your hospital considering it's not only allowed for more funding but encouraged. My sister who works at a hospital in Philly is also saying that's how they're reporting it also.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
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07/14/20 5:01:17 PM
#413
neonreaper posted...
MA reports cases as separate but added. Deaths I am not sure but we talk about excess mortality so we dont get stuck in the SmartMuffin/ProvateBiscuit hellhole
Why am I being linked with SMuffin here? All I said was a fact about how the hospitals report deaths when COVID is involved. I literally even said I didn't know if that's how they take the COVID death stats more than once.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
PrivateBiscuit1
07/14/20 3:41:17 PM
#406
I mean, what I say is from my job which has advised multiple hospitals on this, as many of them asked us if it would be legal to do and we were like "Yeah, go for it." It doesn't outright say death by Coronavirus, it's reported to whatever they have to report the numbers to as Coronavirus-related. I don't know if that's the number they take when they talk about COVID deaths or not, but it's definitely how this sort of thing is reported from hospitals.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
PrivateBiscuit1
07/14/20 3:00:32 PM
#403
I can't confirm whether or not the stats we get are truly all people who die of COVID-19 or not, but hospitals report any deaths of people who had COVID-19 and passed, even if they technically didn't pass because of COVID-19, as COVID-related deaths in order to get better funding.

Source: My job

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TopicHow much do you weigh?
PrivateBiscuit1
07/14/20 12:21:44 PM
#21
175ish

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TopicUbisoft Forward starting right now
PrivateBiscuit1
07/14/20 12:15:26 PM
#24
One of my close friends is working as a producer on Watch Dogs Legion and he's very excited about it. I'm not too interested in it, but I'll get it to support him.

Also, he told me Far Cry Blood Dragon is probably never going to happen again because the guy in charge of it left the company and it was such a distinct game for him that nobody else can likely do it justice. I only mention it because I remember someone here was a die hard fan of that game.

He also says that Beyond Good and Evil 2 is still going to be a while yet from release. Which for an announced game in 2017 that's freaking wild.

He also personally sent this Tweet to the narrative director in Far Cry 6, so it's likely to be changed: https://twitter.com/swelterspice/status/1282718386246557696

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TopicSmash Bros competitive community is getting #MeToo'd
PrivateBiscuit1
07/13/20 8:02:15 PM
#474
scarletspeed7 posted...
Wave Race community still standing tall
You just jinxed it.

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TopicSo... how is Sonic X?
PrivateBiscuit1
07/13/20 7:34:50 PM
#2
It's okay.

Enjoyable enough for a kid's show.

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TopicActual The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Topic
PrivateBiscuit1
07/13/20 6:56:09 PM
#89
HanOfTheNekos posted...
You had details wrong, said things happened without any explanation when they in fact did, and used a lot of inaccuracies to support your outrage in that other topic.

It's what made that other topic so hard to read. Clearly, the people complaining didn't have any actual experience with the game at all.

Maybe you did have a completely open mind, but I don't think that's particular believable. There was a LOT of vitriol coming from you before you even learned that Lev wasn't Abby's boyfriend.

Now, I didn't need to invoke you at all here, so I'd be pretty turd-y to say 'this is why Ctes is meaningful to talk to about issues with the game and you aren't', but that's kind of where the disconnect is, if that makes sense.
Let me ask this then.

Did you look at any posts I had made just a day or two leading up to the release of the game? Or any posts I had made in that topic as I was watching through the game myself to form a more accurate opinion?

I don't think it would be particularly unbelievable that I went into it with an open mind if you did so. Hell, I don't know why you guys even bothered to read the first pages of those topics when a ton of misinformation was thrown around, and ignore everything said when the game was actually out there and any inaccuracies were cleaned up.

I had purposefully went to a variety of different streamers of different backgrounds and political leanings to try avoid getting an particularly negative opinion.

Like I've never been shitty to anyone in these discussion except for pezzicle. But for whatever reasons I'm being treated like some prick who can't have a valid opinion. It's not like my opinion is based on these inaccurate leaks. I watched the damn thing. I know exactly what happens front and back and know what was wrong and what wasn't now and a lot of the time the truth of how things played out was worse than what the false leaks said.

I don't even care about discussing the game and haven't for weeks. Where I have this problem is with people trying to act like people's opinions on the story are less valid because they didn't press a button when I watched people play it and saw exactly what anyone else discussing it saw. The only difference is I didn't 'feel' a certain way.

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TopicActual The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Topic
PrivateBiscuit1
07/13/20 5:51:55 PM
#75
Lightning Strikes posted...
I made this topic for discussion by people who have played the game in full, for full discussion of the game.
Please take note that I didn't reply until the conversation became about people who didn't ACTUALLY play it can't form a true opinion about the game.

And that I didn't even talk about the game itself until my post a few minutes ago to make a point.

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TopicActual The Last of Us Part II Spoiler Topic
PrivateBiscuit1
07/13/20 5:45:05 PM
#72
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I think it'd be more accurate to say your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt because you read a minimal amount of plot elements, based your opinion off of that, then continued to be more and more negative as you found out additional details out of context. Despite being wrong about many elements of the plot, you hated the game before you ever watched somebody play through on stream.

It's less of a 'you didn't play it' and more a 'you made up your mind before you really experienced it at all'.
I would say this isn't accurate too.

I was actively hoping that the middle part of the game would end up justifying the leaked parts I would see, and would provide a better context and end up justifying all of it. For instance, I watched all of Abby's part of the game with a very open mind hoping they could justify her doing something so brutal and horrifying in the beginning of the game, and hoping that she would end up a good character. But instead they seemed to make utterly confusing narrative decisions with her. Like, bafflingly so.

Like her taking advantage of her drunk friend by sleeping with him when he has a pregnant girlfriend and then when asked about it the next morning just going "It meant nothing to me" is just awful. This is all after essentially telling him he should man up. Stuff like that just baffles me and makes me struggle to understand why it was in the game in the first place if the goal is for us to actually feel for this character.

I had said multiple times that it looks bad, but I'm going to have to see how it all plays out to see if it ends up truly as bad as it seems. Unfortunately, most choices in the middle of the game didn't necessarily make me feel much better about it.

But to say I went into it without an open mind isn't the truth. I went into it wanting the game to have good justification for the choices they made. It just didn't happen though.

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