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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 11:00:09 PM
#396
##Unvote: SBell
##Vote: Red


I want to see more from red.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 10:59:24 PM
#392
I support gravitating towards his rep if it makes you suspect red more
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 10:54:26 PM
#386
Chris didn't think you were scum and I can kinda see why he didn't with some time to think about it so felt no need to push the issue. I'll leave it at that for now. The dumb claim isn't exactly going to go away so it can be pursued at any time if town is hurting for lynch candidates. SBell and Red are better options for today easily.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 10:51:05 PM
#384
I honestly assumed scare got vigged or SKed (oh no SK theorycraft). Scum killing him seems illogical. He had a lot of suspicion on him.
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Lopen
06/21/19 10:34:04 PM
#375
5tarscream posted...
Id like to look at red more today.


Me too. Still a very good lynch candidate imo.
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Lopen
06/21/19 10:28:38 PM
#369
UltimaterializerX posted...
You've basically called me town so are you hoping scum gets lazy and jumps onto voting for you so we catch them together?


Note my first push was against Hbthebattle, who did exactly that. Not a coincidence!
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 10:26:50 PM
#364
I think you're bad town.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 10:25:00 PM
#362
Proof of my theory to myself and because I felt no risk in doing so. Also being a lightning rod can be a useful scum hunting tool. One I like because I can just focus on myself and get leads.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 10:21:49 PM
#355
I'm 100% right. I've played you like a fiddle. You will always lynch the first guy who antagonizes you. But you cant lynch me and I'm not going to try to lynch you unless I think there's an actual scum read on you and it allows the game to continue to function without you derailing anything.

I'm really disappointed how well it's worked, though. Like this is actually annoying that you skip reading days to bs a reason to vote ne
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 10:16:54 PM
#345
Ulti you are really bad at this game by the way. You have no ability whatsoever to adjust your read even when it's not your own (I goaded you into this)
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06/21/19 10:14:31 PM
#342
Actually read the topic and not just vote totals you will see why I did it. I argued against that lynch the whole time, then sighed, threw my hands up and said "can you just claim so we can lynch actual scum"
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 10:06:06 PM
#329
Honestly though like... the difference between "lean town" and "very townie" is very significant. I wasn't exactly putting Luis on any town lists. If he had a train vs say Chris or frankly even dowolf (preclaim, because that lynch was garbage) I would have went for him.

Lean town means closer to neutral than not. I opposed his lynch and said as much as my first post today, but if you made an argument that he was scum before he flipped scum I would have humored listening to it.
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Lopen
06/21/19 10:01:09 PM
#323
Luis basically has me pocketed by default unless he scumslips. Wasted effort. Maybe he doesn't know that though.
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Lopen
06/21/19 10:00:01 PM
#322
My recollection of what I said about him was p accurate it seems. I respect his scum identifying abilities and don't want to lynch him unless I'm sure he's scum. Was pretty consistent the whole day on that.
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06/21/19 9:56:41 PM
#314
Lean town = "very townie" okay
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 9:54:24 PM
#312
I never said Luis was very townie yesterday

I said his posts showed enough logic to them that I had no scum read and I didn't feel confident lynching him unless I was 100% sure he was scum cause I think he's a strong town tool when he is town
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 9:50:34 PM
#303
Oh okay several = 2

I like how you made no real attempt to get him lynched yesterday either despite these several scummy things
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 9:44:27 PM
#291
Lea3Lea posted...
Then, even after Luis had done several scummy things, he interpreted them positively instead of negatively.


Name them please
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 9:42:11 PM
#284
##Vote: Sbell

Ah okay. Well, you're mine for now. Luis's very non-committal defense of you after the only input on you I could recall from earlier in the day was negative makes you look considerably worse. And you already looked bad to me.

But this is just an opener I have to read Luis posts from day 1. Could've done it at night were I on task but I wasn't. When I get back on my PC.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 9:34:38 PM
#270
Who is your top scum suspect today SBell? Still me?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 9:27:54 PM
#257
Seriously though where did Luis defend Sbell? I'm on mobile so if you could at least give me a rough time it occurred.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/21/19 9:21:18 PM
#241
I would never have killed Luis and groaned when Chris did it. Did Luis really defend SBell though? If I absorbed that he did that I might've suspected him considering he was the guy who earlier in the day called SBell's justification for voting me bad.
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TopicJust got modded for saying some was delusional...
Lopen
06/21/19 6:46:59 PM
#81
Which, incidentally, is a good way to prove that moderators seeing the context wouldn't actually help at all!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 485: It's Such Good Shit
Lopen
06/21/19 4:46:37 PM
#301
It's an R-Truth heel turn in the sense the segments have officially jumped the shark and he's the star of them.
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Topica new Elder Scrolls comes out, what race do you choose for your first character?
Lopen
06/21/19 3:01:44 PM
#17
It's new generation it's gotta look better. It's gotta!
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Topica new Elder Scrolls comes out, what race do you choose for your first character?
Lopen
06/21/19 2:44:55 PM
#13
Whichever human/elf race has the prettiest character creation options

If none are pretty (which has always been the case in unmodded elder scrolls but I feel like the next one may actually break that trend) then I'll make a lizard man.
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TopicJust got modded for saying some was delusional...
Lopen
06/21/19 1:16:22 PM
#66
I'm probably one of the meanest guys here reading straight text and I'm not sure I've ever been moderated for flaming on this website. There's an art to picking your words that makes what you're saying sound less harsh, or just harsh enough without crossing a line where it comes off as malicious or hurtful.

Heck I can jump in tone from sentence to sentence if I really want to. The line between condescending and casual is often in just putting a simple "ya know" or "gonna" or "whatever" or whatever in the sentence.
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TopicJust got modded for saying some was delusional...
Lopen
06/21/19 12:43:42 PM
#60
I can clearly read the sarcastic tone in that text. You made the point for me better than I could have ever hoped for.
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Lopen
06/21/19 12:25:38 PM
#57
You know you're not really convincing me you have a good grasp on tone KyleKatakana. Makes me wonder about your credibility on the justification of moderations.
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TopicJust got modded for saying some was delusional...
Lopen
06/21/19 12:06:53 PM
#51
My faith is rewarded.
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TopicJust got modded for saying some was delusional...
Lopen
06/21/19 11:26:03 AM
#48
Ulti's had mod pockets since back when you were still a fledgling virtue signaler. I'll trust him on any ToS matter first.
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TopicBest of the Trope Season 2: Day 182 - Anti-Climax Boss
Lopen
06/21/19 11:16:57 AM
#17
Yu Yevon (FFX)
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 485: It's Such Good Shit
Lopen
06/21/19 10:58:37 AM
#298
I blame literally every title change being through a roll-up, and basically every segment involving a title change. Makes all the segments feel the same. Hardcore title there'd often be creative forms of violence or some token resistance or whatever, and the title holder would get away more often by fighting the other guy off.

Here it's like, if someone gets you in position to roll you up there's a title change no questions. It's schoolyard tag not an actual belt you fight for.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Canine - Winner: Snoopy
Lopen
06/20/19 11:42:48 PM
#172
Also I'm sorry you want to ignore me for being honest and blunt with you. When I say there really is no beef though, I am being honest there. I only really offer opinions on these contests because I think you have some sort of objectiveness you want to maintain on these contests for like, what qualifies and such, and as someone who thinks the results of these more often than not go to hell mid-contest regardless of what's in, I figure I'm okay to offer unbiased input because I know the results are gonna be garbage in my opinion sooner rather than later no matter what gets in so whatever. I just don't really have much rooting interest. If you make a call I don't think makes sense I'll tell you, but I mean, it's always your call first and like, I'd probably be more biased were I the host, really.

But at the same time, while I'm not going to be outright venomous with you I don't wear kiddie gloves with anyone. So I mean, if you get offended when I say I don't think you're being on the level with that decision in particular... sorry, not sorry, I guess? I certainly wasn't going to rage about it next contest or anything. I'd give you way less flak for it than King Booker because I actually like King Booker and don't care about Pokemon.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Canine - Winner: Snoopy
Lopen
06/20/19 11:18:04 PM
#170
I'm flattered you value my opinion more than all the other people who wanted to ban Pokemon, even though I don't care if you ban it, but you should just ban it if you want to.

It really doesn't matter if I think you're a biased host. Even if for some reason you care what I think I'm not really judging you for it so ???
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Canine - Winner: Snoopy
Lopen
06/20/19 11:14:01 PM
#166
Zigzagoon posted...
What I am saying is though does having a smug look and just being pet all the time make you character enough?


More depth than half the cast of Chrono Trigger right there.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Canine - Winner: Snoopy
Lopen
06/20/19 11:00:20 PM
#155
To be clear I'm not saying I'm objectively correct here. I think if I was charon would be objective enough to not ban them.

I'm saying it's a topic you can humor both ways and charon probably would lean staying hands off if they were less dominant or he liked em.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Canine - Winner: Snoopy
Lopen
06/20/19 10:42:53 PM
#150
It's only an attack if I believe it's false when I say it. I believe it's likely right given your history of reactions to Pokemon doing well. So it's an (unflattering, admittedly) observation, not an attack.

It's possible I'm wrong but saying you appear biased in your motives is not driven by any malice on my end.

Logs are unlikely to really change that belief either so don't bother. Ultimately even if other people bring it up what arguments you find compelling will always be driven by your own biases to some extent. I'm not saying you're incapable of any sense of being unbiased with this contest or anything but you've had some hiccups here and there and I do think biases have clouded the previous blunders as well.

This would be another one imo, but nothing I'm going to harass you over long term. You're the host and you waste enough time on this so if you wanna rules lawyer some entrants you don't like out go for it.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Canine - Winner: Snoopy
Lopen
06/20/19 10:32:53 PM
#148
Are you saying I have a victim complex I'm not sure I follow you. I really don't care what rule you pick.

I'm saying your motives seem biased. If you think I'm saying that to antagonize you rather than simply thinking it's the truth then yeah, more evidence of your victim complex right there. I got no problem with you dude. Buried that hatchet many years ago.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Canine - Winner: Snoopy
Lopen
06/20/19 10:15:43 PM
#143
I mean it's definitely up to you I'm just calling a spade a spade here. We already got Dark Nation in save my canine so the extent I'd ever care is long gone.

I just think it's as simple as you want a reason to ban Pokemon though and so you're just arbitrarily adding the rule with the intent to do so. Which if you want to do that that's completely fine it's your contest but I don't think it's particularly good form is all.
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Lopen
06/20/19 10:10:10 PM
#141
v_charon posted...
SMFFFC has a similar rule and no one ever gave those hosts a hard time about it


When your victim complex distorts reality.

I've been posturing for Dark Nation and ?????? in SMFFFC for years and got some following for the former.

Also Nick wanted some dumb FFV enemy in IIRC.
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06/20/19 9:53:23 PM
#137
Raka_Putra posted...
Eh I think it's fine to disallow generic Pokemon species but let individual ones in. And if people mix them up in their heads, that's on the voter.


As someone who has never nominated a Pokemon and has almost never saved one, I just think this adds an unnecessary layer of annoyance to nominating Pokemon is all and makes their nomination unnecessarily awkward. Just kinda silly.
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06/20/19 9:42:19 PM
#131
Also with very few exceptions, all unique versions of a Pokemon are gonna feel identical. In their head I imagine most people consider Smash Pikachu and Pokemon anime Pikachu the same for example.

Map that with the fact that you can pick a specific one for every Pokemon if you really want, and yeah it's just easier to just leave em nominated as is.

And yes the quality of characterization has nothing to do with their viability as a character. For example I think Crono and Link have very poor characterization but they are obviously eligible characters, even though much like a Pokemon multiple Links exist.
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06/20/19 9:36:49 PM
#129
One specific sword Pokemon character is just making it more annoying to nominate it if people want to. You can always pick a specific one in the game if you want.

Pokemon as a series has weak characterization. If people wanna nominate Giovanni's Persian it's gonna be basically the same thing as nominating Persian.
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Lopen
06/20/19 9:32:06 PM
#126
There are species but like, Pokemon are treated as individuals with names as the species all the time. Ash's Pikachu is named Pikachu, not Studaddy. In Smash it's clearly one specific Jigglypuff etc.

Comparing it to mirror match Ryu is poor but I dunno, like, Robo-Ky from Guilty Gear for example, while there are an army of identical models the story Robo-Ky is clearly a distinctive character from the lot of them
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
Lopen
06/20/19 8:49:26 PM
#175
It's Liliana Vess
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban
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06/20/19 8:47:25 PM
#165
Oh shit lea is the incredibly dangerous target bomb of legend
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06/20/19 8:45:18 PM
#156
Even if Han had read it that kind of coincidence is not something I'd abide
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06/20/19 8:39:38 PM
#146
My current guess on the scumteam

Red13n
Scare
Hbthebattle
Tom Bombadil
Lea (not a chance that claim makes sense)

Cam as wolf actually makes some sort of sense

We'll see how well that pans out I guess.
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06/20/19 8:27:22 PM
#93
Also doesn't help that I think that list of people that voted you is a weak set to consider lynching.
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