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Normally I'd be with you, but unlike most things this is good in the now so I don't care as much.

Usually it's me saying "they're going to ruin it" when we've got tepid/bad segments that could potentially be leading to something good. I actually enjoy the (top 3 of) Smackdown Women's division right now though so while them ruining it is a likely scenario it's not really a "give it a chance" kind of thing. It doesn't need to be given a chance. It's just good as it is. Knowing they'll ruin it shouldn't hurt the enjoyment right now. I'll just let it ruin the enjoyment then and enjoy that it's much better than expected now.
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I mean realistically it's a very ambitious percentage. I know that much. But I do feel like the anti-vote/underdog crowd comes out hardest for the final and that's why so many finals have been relatively closer than expected. I also think Cloud has gained strength since the last meeting because of the perception shift of the contest people actually realizing that it's actually the LAW and hasn't been FFVII always wins in like 14 years.

Ambitious or not I do expect Cloud to do significantly better than last time. Better enough that I'm just giving him the 46.01% out of HOPE and BELIEVE. C'mon moral victory you can do it Cloud.
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Lopen's final unofficial analysis

Hey guys I did it. To the two or three people who appreciated me half assing it to support the crew in spirit, I hope I didn't fall down to a quarter ass, and thanks for reading.

Anyway *ANYONE* vs Link is not an interesting match in this climate, no matter how much newfound underdog cred Cloud has now that this site has finally absorbed the truth after Link/Zelda winner finals.

I want to think Cloud can save some face and go for his 46% he likes to get, though. How? I dunno. He'll find a way. Maybe Link fans will have some pity because of the 1 match up Link has. Maybe the antivote crowd will be amplified in the final. Who knows!

Link with 53.99%
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I think you both agree more than you think and it's just a dumb semantics argument, then.

Your definition of "tweener leaning face" seems pretty similar to Rock's definition of "face straddling the heel line."

I think turning Becky into more of a face than she is, which, Austin generally wasn't if we're keeping score since that's what she's being compared to a lot, ruins her.

I guess the only real thing is that you see it more likely she could go fully heel with minimal change to the presentation and character than he does. But unless you're arguing the segment on Tuesday is actively pushing her in that direction I don't see the problem. People turn at the drop of a hat in WWE these days so saying it's harder or easier to turn face or heel is frankly kind of irrelevant. If they want to do it they'll just do it with a random beatdown out of nowhere.
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To me tweener is just another way to say that for the record. Feels like we're just arguing semantics
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I agree but I just don't see the problem with that, I guess. It seems like a weird thing to have an argument about. She's clearly being booked as the top woman of her division, and credibly, which is all that matters.
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Well I would say outside the match with Kirby Luigi has looked better than Bowser, and has for several years now.

Also keep in mind that current Samus is Smash Fueled and Tifa Samus was not.
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Jman_maximum posted...

Sonic being reeeeeeeally weak

You can only make Sonic so weak before Auron starts to stick out like a sore thumb. I'm not saying Auron is super strong but he's not fodder and he beat some solid guys soundly to get there.
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Well Asuka's always had a bit of an edge to her too, never been full milk drinker. I think Rock had a good point with Austin/Rock/Mankind. I don't want to go digging but I'm positive you can find segments with any combination of any of the three beating down one of the other three, all being booked as faces. It's fine. That's how you create compelling product.

I mean if you wanna be a skeptic and say they're bound to mess it up then fine but I think the finish to Smackdown was done about as well as it could be.
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Eh I think even if she was a full face it's fine-- face Austin has stunned faces before, but I agree she's not one yet. I do think that if you have the reactions she has it doesn't actually matter if she is one and probably hurts the product if she is.
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I'm flipping the script on 2005, where I said Mario could arguably have been stronger than Samus the whole time and it just wasn't seen in the pathing, and saying Samus is clear #2 despite her narrow loss.

No doubt in my mind Samus wrecks Cloud here.
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I actually agree with Rock on this. Rare I know.

I'm curious SEP did you actually watch the segment or did you just read a review and know the gist of the segment. Because it was executed pretty well even if maybe it doesn't seem great on paper. Asuka needed to look best since she's the most damaged goods right now and I didn't think Becky or hell even Charlotte looked like total clowns. Face standing tall over tweener leaning face and heel is completely fine.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Smackdown is good.

As someone who still watches Smackdown I'd call that very strong.

It's watchable but until like a couple of months ago was basically 2 hour Raw.

Now Raw is heel authority figure and Daniel Bryan has been entertaining so it has clearly overtaken 2 hour Raw, but I still wouldn't call Smackdown good. It hasn't been legit good on a regular basis by even the most generous definition since Talking Smack went off the air.
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Got Palla on the free draw. I guess my hand has been forced as far as finally building one goes (been considering it for a while). I assume +Spd/-Res is probably better than +Atk/-Res? (I have both)

Also got another Ophelia with bad nature off the ticket. +1 now! Maybe I can get a +Atk one before this banner disappears.
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Feast or Fired: Drew McIntyre
Ultimate X: Mustafa Ali
James Storm
Austin Aries
Braun Strowman

Sandow Fired
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I'm excited to see if Cloud can break 51% this time
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1/3 Fang BSB2 to go with her BSB1 I already have

Famg might have the most relics out of any character that I don't use that I wouldn't actually mind using. They're all just bad. SSB OSB both BSBs
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My explanation:

Samus got a big temporary Smash boost, making Snake Samus much stronger than Tifa Samus
Mario through "clutch" and rSFF was able to mostly mitigate that boost as no one else could
Samus is also the strongest of the lot naturally by a lot. To the point where she would've walked over Cloud easily.
Zelda is less susceptible to SFF from Mario than Samus, but is indirectly weaker by a lot

Samus vs Cloud and Samus vs Zelda are really the only way we'd know though.
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Cloud is owed his 46% match. He'll get it. Trust.
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I like them a bit more than that but I can at least accept that assessment.
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As opposed to Mario getting 40/60'd the first time, I guess.
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He's holding up much better against Zelda than he was against Mario at this point. I would say he should probably be considered the favorite right now but who knows how the trends will fall I guess
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Link vs Master Chief riding a T-Rex
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Lopen's Unofficial Analysisx2

Mario v Zelda
I think both of these two have arguments to go bigger on the rematch.

Zelda has Mario being slimy against Samus (and if he gets here, Cloud as well) in her corner, and also the fact that she won this last time

Mario on the other hand has people not wanting to see that rematch again, not wanting an all Zelda grand final, and Zelda enthusiasm probably being much lower now cause of her whooping.

I'm honestly not sure which wins out but my feeling is that contest enthusiasts (who are the only ones who these factors really apply to) probably support Mario overall from these events and due to the fact we haven't seen Mario/Link yet, as they are probably aren't looking at the results so closely as to fully grasp robberies, so he can slime his way through another one.

Mario with 50.04%

Cloud v Zelda
Simpler match to analyze. Cloud has all the positives of Mario, with none of the slime. I also think that a Zelda coming off a beating from Link is indirectly weaker than Mario, straight up.

Cloud Strife with 54.89%
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I'll stand by Wolverine and especially The Wolverine getting a worse rap than they deserve till the day I die
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I think it took a while to set in. Tifa/Samus 2 was before Cloud got utterly clowned by Link. Cloud did better against Crono after that by about 1%. Throw that in as well as the Mario being a slimeball vote as well as the all Zelda winners final and I don't think it's outlandish to suggest
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I think if you ran Sephiroth/Mario again today Seph makes it a lot closer for what it's worth. As a casual you see Seph Tifa and Cloud in the final set and you're like FF7 FAQs again zzz

Then results pan out and it's clear it was ZeldaFAQs all along, and that Mario is a slimeball. I do think that perception matters a non trivial amount. Like Mario probably probably beats Cloud 53-47 if he faced him a few rounds ago.
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I have to agree

Only because Frog Mario'd Chief out of his comeback though
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I picked Sonic so he had to die. That's just the rule of nature.
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Snake
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Came to vote Agahnim

No Agahnim in the poll.

What a joke!
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I vote Dark Knight too btw but I don't think the ones mentioned were super far off the mark
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People's Champion Cloud

I love it. He has been heel too long
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I actually voted for Frog what is the world coming to
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Lopen's Unofficial Guest Analysis x1

Cloud v Mario
Wacky theory time: Cloud soaks up some antivotes here on the heels of a match that is literally Zelda 1 vs Zelda 2 and a heartbreaking loss for Samus. Not a ton or anything, but enough to narrowly beat Smash Fueled Mario here.

Cloud Strife with 51.35%
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What is the winner I'm curious
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Zen > StupidRaptor >> the rest
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I should definitely watch more of other stuff and less of WWE.

I at least managed to get through all of Lucha Underground "you're too slow" Tom.

Right now it's just... watch most of Smackdown most of the time. Watch like 20 minutes of Raw many weeks due to abusing the hell out of fast forward (it's almost getting to the point where I'm not even going to bother with Raw because so much of it has been skip). Watch bits and pieces of other wrestling. I wish the Impact Roku app was better right now I can only watch the current one on through non-Roku avenues, which is doable but facilitates viewing less. Same with NJPW which doesn't even have a Roku app yet.
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I guess I kinda prefer the yeti looking like one of the Wild Things but Nunu as a mischievous hooligan is definitely a better look. Overall I think I prefer the old package though.
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Yeah this game is veering in a very offputting direction with its powercreep

Having skills and units be gradually more powerful over time is okay. I accept that in these types of things. Especially since you can generally get by with stuff below the state of the art level of power creep unless the power creep is super fast (which is another problem entirely)

Having skills directly gate your ability to earn points in modes is another literally pay to win.
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Good riddance. Fjorm was incredibly redundant with Alfonse anyway.
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I definitely identify more with a happy go lucky Italian stereotype than a generic mute elf

I like pasta. I've been fat in the past. I've trained to be in professions then used very little of that knowledge in what I'm actually doing.
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I'm just saying kids at least somewhat like that definitely exist. It's nature and nurture. And on the nurture front also keep in mind Sarah Connor raised very young John Connor to be TOUGH and tried to give him survival training and stuff, then he was only later taken in by cream puff foster parents, so his attitude is going to be pretty warped.
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Link's not cool. He's an elf wearing tights that goes HYAH SHEYAHH YAHH
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I was a kid. I met kids. There were never kids like this kid

Disagree on this. I've definitely met kids like him. Maybe not quite dialed up to 11 as he was, but he did have a more weird childhood than the ones I've met so yeah. I think it's going to heavily depend on what circles you hang out with as a kid though. As an adult you won't see it as much (still possible, but less easily seen) because a lot of kids like this are punks and will conceal this attitude when an adult that isn't their parents is present.

That being said he absolutely is the weakest part of the film don't get me wrong, and I'm sure you could fine tune the performance/reactions he has to make him better, but I don't think he's like super off the mark. It's plausible that a kid like this could exist to me given his backstory, which is all I need.
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Furlong is what a 10 year old thinks is cool and that's okay because he's a 10 year old who tries to be cool.
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I didn't make that post, but for me it's less that realism makes something that annoys the crap out of me okay and more that realism makes an otherwise annoying role inherently less annoying due to it making sense from a storytelling perspective. So I don't mind John Connor much.

But then again I'm pretty sure I just have a lot more tolerance for annoyance than you given Ariel never came off as annoying to me and I don't even really get that.

(And Tidus is actually legit entertaining and always thought the annoying complaints were kinda twisting the tone and context of the character's dialogue and actions, but it goes without saying I never understood that one)
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Expected Malaysian Ant Cults

Got discussion about PS3 cables

DisAPPOINTED!
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I'll just say that I don't think creating a topic series is worth much. It's like the message board equivalent of squatting.

But I guess it's worth more than 411 reporting.

That aside Steiner's posts are fine though. More people should encourage us to watch good wrestling instead of just complaining about WWE all the time. Can't handle the snark get out of the 411 reporting desk that's what I always say.
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