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ChaosTonyV4 02/19/22 6:58:18 PM #452:	Theres no such thing as a far left liberal, first of all. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:962793483] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Theres no such thing as a far left liberal, first of all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 02/19/22 6:59:23 PM #453:	No one wanted a Bernie Sanders dictatorship (mostly because he is not immortal and would eventually die) we wanted a country intelligent enough to elect a Bernie Sanders. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:962793494] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>No one wanted a Bernie Sanders dictatorship (mostly because he is not immortal and would eventually die) we wanted a country intelligent enough to elect a Bernie Sanders. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/19/22 7:01:05 PM #454:	masterplum posted... I mean a decent number of far left liberals would have preferred a bernie sanders dictatorship if they had been given a chance. Desire for dictatorship shows up everywhere. Republicans just have congress people insane enough to actually think its a good idea No, this is stupid, provide proof otherwise, please. Support of "far left" ideals like universal healthcare is NOT a "support of dictatorship" in the same vein. It's pathetic that Republicans want to legit limit who can vote, and people like you try to "Same thing, both sides!" it. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:962793524] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>I mean a decent number of far left liberals would have preferred a bernie sanders dictatorship if they had been given a chance. Desire for dictatorship shows up everywhere. Republicans just have congress people insane enough to actually think its a good idea</quote> No, this is stupid, provide proof otherwise, please. Support of "far left" ideals like universal healthcare is NOT a "support of dictatorship" in the same vein. It's pathetic that Republicans want to legit limit who can vote, and people like you try to "Same thing, both sides!" it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 02/19/22 7:01:37 PM #455:	DoomTheGyarados posted... No one wanted a Bernie Sanders dictatorship (mostly because he is not immortal and would eventually die) we wanted a country intelligent enough to elect a Bernie Sanders. Our mistake was giving people too much credit --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:962793541] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted... </cite> <quote>No one wanted a Bernie Sanders dictatorship (mostly because he is not immortal and would eventually die) we wanted a country intelligent enough to elect a Bernie Sanders.</quote> Our mistake was giving people too much credit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 02/19/22 7:22:39 PM #456:	Suprak the Stud posted... Our mistake was people --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:962794011] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>Our mistake was people</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 02/19/22 7:32:30 PM #457:	masterplum posted... I mean a decent number of far left liberals would have preferred a bernie sanders dictatorship if they had been given a chance. Desire for dictatorship shows up everywhere. Republicans just have congress people insane enough to actually think its a good idea No, I just want a country where Joe BIden is the conservative candidate, and Bernie Sanders is the liberal candidate, and any candidate to the right of Biden is too fringe to get elected nationally. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:962794233] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>I mean a decent number of far left liberals would have preferred a bernie sanders dictatorship if they had been given a chance. Desire for dictatorship shows up everywhere. Republicans just have congress people insane enough to actually think its a good idea</quote> No, I just want a country where Joe BIden is the conservative candidate, and Bernie Sanders is the liberal candidate, and any candidate to the right of Biden is too fringe to get elected nationally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 02/19/22 9:37:52 PM #458:	all hail comrade bernie --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:962796981] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>all hail comrade bernie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 02/19/22 9:39:25 PM #459:	Dancedreamer posted... No, I just want a country where Joe BIden is the conservative candidate, and Bernie Sanders is the liberal candidate, and any candidate to the right of Biden is too fringe to get elected nationally. This is going to be very difficult for a lot of the world to achieve soon. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:962797017] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted... </cite> <quote> No, I just want a country where Joe BIden is the conservative candidate, and Bernie Sanders is the liberal candidate, and any candidate to the right of Biden is too fringe to get elected nationally.</quote> This is going to be very difficult for a lot of the world to achieve soon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 02/19/22 9:52:43 PM #460:	DoomTheGyarados posted... No one wanted a Bernie Sanders dictatorship (mostly because he is not immortal and would eventually die) we wanted a country intelligent enough to elect a Bernie Sanders. dictatorship of immortal god-emperor Sanders is really funny to me Marx could have learned from these ideas instead of obsessing over that whole proletariat thing --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:962797320] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted... </cite> <quote>No one wanted a Bernie Sanders dictatorship (mostly because he is not immortal and would eventually die) we wanted a country intelligent enough to elect a Bernie Sanders.</quote> dictatorship of immortal god-emperor Sanders is really funny to me Marx could have learned from these ideas instead of obsessing over that whole proletariat thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 02/19/22 11:19:20 PM #461:	Maniac64 posted... So if you arent married you can have and use contraceptives? What if you are married but having an affair? Is it ok then? the answer (in michigan specifically, at least) is probably worse than you imagine https://twitter.com/dananessel/status/1495085050291007489 Not sure what other states would revert to. Overturn some landmark decisions and you can easilt create some insane chain of dominoes as all of a sudden decades/centuries old laws still on the books but were rendered moot by various decisions (or on decisions that rest upon the overturned decision, etc.) go back into force. --- May you find your book in this place. <cite>xp1337 posted [p:962799289] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Maniac64 posted... </cite> <quote>So if you arent married you can have and use contraceptives? What if you are married but having an affair? Is it ok then?</quote>the answer (in michigan specifically, at least) is probably worse than you imagine https://twitter.com/dananessel/status/1495085050291007489 Not sure what other states would revert to. Overturn some landmark decisions and you can easilt create some insane chain of dominoes as all of a sudden decades/centuries old laws still on the books but were rendered moot by various decisions (or on decisions that rest upon the overturned decision, etc.) go back into force. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 02/20/22 12:49:03 AM #462:	LordoftheMorons posted... Griswold v Connecticut is extremely important beyond just contraception access (which is an insane thing to ban); its where the Supreme Court recognized that the Constitution implies a right to privacy. That's one of those things that's not in the text of the Constitution that the right would like to overturn. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:962800944] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Griswold v Connecticut is extremely important beyond just contraception access (which is an insane thing to ban); its where the Supreme Court recognized that the Constitution implies a right to privacy.</quote> That's one of those things that's not in the text of the Constitution that the right would like to overturn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 02/20/22 10:10:26 AM #463:	I keep wondering if I should get out of the US while I can but I can't think of an English-speaking country that seems to be doing much better --- pretend there is a trans flag emoji here <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:962807591] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>I keep wondering if I should get out of the US while I can but I can't think of an English-speaking country that seems to be doing much better </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 02/20/22 10:30:28 AM #464:	Tom Bombadil posted... I keep wondering if I should get out of the US while I can but I can't think of an English-speaking country that seems to be doing much better Ive also considered this, but I think two large problems are countries change over time internally and good places to live change over time. For instance if the place you are looking for is a country with a large social safety net, that country might not offer that in 20 years either from external factors like war or internal factors such as the banking crisis that almost bankrupt Europe. I dont think transplanting my life that dramatically for situations that could change at the drop of a hat is a good idea. Plus, in a situation where the United States becomes too destabilized to desire to live even in the more liberal areas such as the north east, I would also expect China and Russia to start making huge territory grabs into those exact countries that invested in social services instead of their military. If you are really concerned about where you are, I would consider moving to a liberal area of America because if that becomes untenable then the whole world is probably screwed. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:962807939] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Tom Bombadil posted... </cite> <quote>I keep wondering if I should get out of the US while I can but I can't think of an English-speaking country that seems to be doing much better</quote> Ive also considered this, but I think two large problems are countries change over time internally and good places to live change over time. For instance if the place you are looking for is a country with a large social safety net, that country might not offer that in 20 years either from external factors like war or internal factors such as the banking crisis that almost bankrupt Europe. I dont think transplanting my life that dramatically for situations that could change at the drop of a hat is a good idea. Plus, in a situation where the United States becomes too destabilized to desire to live even in the more liberal areas such as the north east, I would also expect China and Russia to start making huge territory grabs into those exact countries that invested in social services instead of their military. If you are really concerned about where you are, I would consider moving to a liberal area of America because if that becomes untenable then the whole world is probably screwed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 02/20/22 11:54:09 AM #465:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Countries that require ID: Argentina Brazil Canada France Finland Germany Greece Hungary Iceland India Israel Italy Mexico Namibia Netherlands Norway Sweden Switzerland Northern Ireland 14 US States Countries that don't: Australia New Zealand The rest of the UK 36 US States TIL that most of the first world countries are "crumbling democracies" because they require people show valid ID to participate in elections Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws Just a reminder that noone has tried to refute this point, so I assume you now all agree that "asking for ID to vote is racist" is an absolutely baseless argument --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:962809462] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>Countries that require ID: Argentina Brazil Canada France Finland Germany Greece Hungary Iceland India Israel Italy Mexico Namibia Netherlands Norway Sweden Switzerland Northern Ireland 14 US States Countries that don't: Australia New Zealand The rest of the UK 36 US States TIL that most of the first world countries are "crumbling democracies" because they require people show valid ID to participate in elections Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws</quote>Just a reminder that noone has tried to refute this point, so I assume you now all agree that "asking for ID to vote is racist" is an absolutely baseless argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 02/20/22 11:57:39 AM #466:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Just a reminder that noone has tried to refute this point, so I assume you now all agree that "asking for ID to vote is racist" is an absolutely baseless argument I have no problem asking for ID when IDs are given to all citizens without any issues. And also don't expire. And are mailed to people when they change addresses with updated information. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:962809534] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>Just a reminder that noone has tried to refute this point, so I assume you now all agree that "asking for ID to vote is racist" is an absolutely baseless argument</quote> I have no problem asking for ID when IDs are given to all citizens without any issues. And also don't expire. And are mailed to people when they change addresses with updated information. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 02/20/22 11:59:02 AM #467:	Also, because I have seen a lot of uninformed opinions, Canadian Charter of Rights and freedoms protects peaceful protests, and explicitly excludes protests that blockade legal activities (i.e. blocking a highway/road/train station). About the only thing the right wing whack jobs have right, is that the government is looking the other way for certain "protests" (i.e. all the native gas pipeline protests last year where Turdeau let them block highways and trains for almost 2 months). The moral of the story here is that letting people illegally riot when it suits your narrative will inevitably bite you in the ass when people are rioting against your narrative. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:962809556] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Also, because I have seen a lot of uninformed opinions, Canadian Charter of Rights and freedoms protects peaceful protests, and explicitly excludes protests that blockade legal activities (i.e. blocking a highway/road/train station). About the only thing the right wing whack jobs have right, is that the government is looking the other way for certain "protests" (i.e. all the native gas pipeline protests last year where Turdeau let them block highways and trains for almost 2 months). The moral of the story here is that letting people illegally riot when it suits your narrative will inevitably bite you in the ass when people are rioting against your narrative. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 02/20/22 12:01:57 PM #468:	DoomTheGyarados posted... I have no problem asking for ID when IDs are given to all citizens without any issues. And also don't expire. And are mailed to people when they change addresses with updated information. So you "have a problem" with Canadian democracy then, since our IDs have expiry dates, and you need to request an updated ID if you move (either in person or online). I can't think of a single valid reason for a person to not have valid ID. Pretty much the only time they don't is because they are doing something illegal. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:962809626] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted... </cite> <quote>I have no problem asking for ID when IDs are given to all citizens without any issues. And also don't expire. And are mailed to people when they change addresses with updated information.</quote>So you "have a problem" with Canadian democracy then, since our IDs have expiry dates, and you need to request an updated ID if you move (either in person or online). I can't think of a single valid reason for a person to not have valid ID. Pretty much the only time they don't is because they are doing something illegal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/20/22 12:10:46 PM #469:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... So you "have a problem" with Canadian democracy then, since our IDs have expiry dates, and you need to request an updated ID if you move (either in person or online). I can't think of a single valid reason for a person to not have valid ID. Pretty much the only time they don't is because they are doing something illegal. Do you have to pay money to receive an ID? --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:962809818] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>So you "have a problem" with Canadian democracy then, since our IDs have expiry dates, and you need to request an updated ID if you move (either in person or online). I can't think of a single valid reason for a person to not have valid ID. Pretty much the only time they don't is because they are doing something illegal.</quote> Do you have to pay money to receive an ID? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 02/20/22 12:17:09 PM #470:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... So you "have a problem" with Canadian democracy then, since our IDs have expiry dates, and you need to request an updated ID if you move (either in person or online). I can't think of a single valid reason for a person to not have valid ID. Pretty much the only time they don't is because they are doing something illegal. Requesting an updated ID and having it mailed is fine. Actually I guess expiring is also fine if you can request it online. Main problem is American politicians weaponize this in specific ways. Also voter fraud is hilariously low in our country so it is all grandstanding. Like I get that you don't live here but Republicans deserve no benefit of the doubt for anything ever when it comes to voting. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:962809970] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>So you "have a problem" with Canadian democracy then, since our IDs have expiry dates, and you need to request an updated ID if you move (either in person or online). I can't think of a single valid reason for a person to not have valid ID. Pretty much the only time they don't is because they are doing something illegal.</quote> Requesting an updated ID and having it mailed is fine. Actually I guess expiring is also fine if you can request it online. Main problem is American politicians weaponize this in specific ways. Also voter fraud is hilariously low in our country so it is all grandstanding. Like I get that you don't live here but Republicans deserve no benefit of the doubt for anything ever when it comes to voting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 02/20/22 12:22:45 PM #471:	DoomTheGyarados posted... Also voter fraud is hilariously low in our country so it is all grandstanding. This continues to be the sticking point: we keep trying to solve a non-problem. 2020 had a million investigations into it and the amount of voter fraud found was non-existant. Yet we need massive changes in the law to "protect voter integrity" that just so happen to target minority voters hmmmmmm... --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:962810086] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted... </cite> <quote>Also voter fraud is hilariously low in our country so it is all grandstanding.</quote> This continues to be the sticking point: we keep trying to solve a non-problem. 2020 had a million investigations into it and the amount of voter fraud found was non-existant. Yet we need massive changes in the law to "protect voter integrity" that just so happen to target minority voters hmmmmmm... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 02/20/22 1:00:06 PM #472:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Just a reminder that noone has tried to refute this point, so I assume you now all agree that "asking for ID to vote is racist" is an absolutely baseless argument FYI no one was trying to refute your point (before Chris decided to indulge you) because you have a history of being dense and annoying. Hope this helps! --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:962810862] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>Just a reminder that noone has tried to refute this point, so I assume you now all agree that "asking for ID to vote is racist" is an absolutely baseless argument</quote>FYI no one was trying to refute your point (before Chris decided to indulge you) because you have a history of being dense and annoying. Hope this helps! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 02/20/22 1:09:27 PM #473:	Kenri posted... FYI no one was trying to refute your point (before Chris decided to indulge you) because you have a history of being dense and annoying. Hope this helps! i like how it's always the same kind of people who post this shit (black turtle, sephyg). "the only possible explanation in the world for why nobody wants to argue with me is that nobody is able to refute my point!" --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:962811071] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite> <quote>FYI no one was trying to refute your point (before Chris decided to indulge you) because you have a history of being dense and annoying. Hope this helps!</quote> i like how it's always the same kind of people who post this shit (black turtle, sephyg). "the only possible explanation in the world for why nobody wants to argue with me is that nobody is able to refute my point!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 02/20/22 2:22:25 PM #474:	TheRock1525 posted... This continues to be the sticking point: we keep trying to solve a non-problem. 2020 had a million investigations into it and the amount of voter fraud found was non-existant. The most hilarious part is that when the occasional one-off voting fraud attempts do pop up, it's almost always done by people voting Republican. You know, the party that insists widespread voter fraud is real and a clear and present danger to the sanctity of our elections. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:962812728] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>This continues to be the sticking point: we keep trying to solve a non-problem. 2020 had a million investigations into it and the amount of voter fraud found was non-existant.</quote>The most hilarious part is that when the occasional one-off voting fraud attempts do pop up, it's almost always done by people voting Republican. You know, the party that insists widespread voter fraud is real and a clear and present danger to the sanctity of our elections. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VintageGin 02/20/22 2:38:34 PM #475:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Just a reminder that noone has tried to refute this point, so I assume you now all agree that "asking for ID to vote is racist" is an absolutely baseless argument so are you implying that every country not on your little list is not a first world country or --- Ginhyun http://i.imgur.com/t7G7uoU.gif <cite>VintageGin posted [p:962813124] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>Just a reminder that noone has tried to refute this point, so I assume you now all agree that "asking for ID to vote is racist" is an absolutely baseless argument</quote> so are you implying that every country not on your little list is not a first world country or </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 02/20/22 5:19:53 PM #476:	https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1495489220995129356 So, in Florida they're working on a bill that would, among other things, require schools to out LGBTQ students. The sponsor of the bill noticed that there was a line that gave schools an exception if they believed doing so would "result in abuse, abandonment, or neglect." so he introduced an amendment to remove that exception and require them to out them regardless I have no words, really. Well, I guess I do but would probably get modded. --- May you find your book in this place. <cite>xp1337 posted [p:962816704] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1495489220995129356 So, in Florida they're working on a bill that would, among other things, require schools to out LGBTQ students. The sponsor of the bill noticed that there was a line that gave schools an exception if they believed doing so would "result in abuse, abandonment, or neglect." so he introduced an amendment to remove that exception and require them to out them regardless I have no words, really. Well, I guess I do but would probably get modded. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 02/20/22 5:43:19 PM #477:	Every time I feel like I am truly disappointed in Democrats, Republicans pop up to do something so abhorrent as to remind me why Im a straight line Democratic voter for the rest of my life. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:962817300] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Every time I feel like I am truly disappointed in Democrats, Republicans pop up to do something so abhorrent as to remind me why Im a straight line Democratic voter for the rest of my life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan 02/20/22 6:10:37 PM #478:	Suprak the Stud posted... Every time I feel like I am truly disappointed in Democrats, Republicans pop up to do something so abhorrent as to remind me why Im a straight line Democratic voter for the rest of my life. And yet ~50% of the country STILL votes for them (Rs)! --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! <cite>Seanchan posted [p:962817981] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>Every time I feel like I am truly disappointed in Democrats, Republicans pop up to do something so abhorrent as to remind me why Im a straight line Democratic voter for the rest of my life.</quote> And yet ~50% of the country STILL votes for them (Rs)! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 02/20/22 6:27:09 PM #479:	Seanchan posted... And yet ~50% of the country STILL votes for them (Rs)! People suck. We've known this for a while. People are downright terrible. They always have been. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:962818461] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Seanchan posted... </cite> <quote>And yet ~50% of the country STILL votes for them (Rs)!</quote> People suck. We've known this for a while. People are downright terrible. They always have been. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 02/20/22 9:16:29 PM #480:	VintageGin posted... so are you implying that every country not on your little list is not a first world country or That was the list that was compiled on that Wikipedia page, and represents pretty much every major western democracy. What countries with a reputation for having sound democracy weren't listed? Off the top of my head: Portugal - ID required (https://www.european-elections.eu/how-to-vote/portugal) Spain - ID required (https://www.european-elections.eu/how-to-vote/spain) Belgium - ID required (https://www.european-elections.eu/how-to-vote/belgium) Austria - ID "might be checked" (https://www.european-elections.eu/how-to-vote/austria) South Africa - ID required (https://www.elections.org.za/content/For-Voters/FAQ--Voter-registration/) Chile - ID required (remove space for link) (https://chilereports.cl/en/news/2021/11/16/ questions-and-answers-2021-presidential-and-parliamentary-elections) If as someone mentioned "it's really hard to maintain proper ID" in the US, maybe that is the problem that needs solving, but I can't imagine having faith in an electoral system where one does not need to provide proof of identification. Absolutely bonkers, and such a weird stupid fight for democrats to be pushing for when literally ANY OTHER CONCERN would be a better use of their time. Can you think of any other major democracies that I have missed? --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:962822329] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>VintageGin posted... </cite> <quote>so are you implying that every country not on your little list is not a first world country or</quote>That was the list that was compiled on that Wikipedia page, and represents pretty much every major western democracy. What countries with a reputation for having sound democracy weren't listed? Off the top of my head: Portugal - ID required (https://www.european-elections.eu/how-to-vote/portugal) Spain - ID required (https://www.european-elections.eu/how-to-vote/spain) Belgium - ID required (https://www.european-elections.eu/how-to-vote/belgium) Austria - ID "might be checked" (https://www.european-elections.eu/how-to-vote/austria) South Africa - ID required (https://www.elections.org.za/content/For-Voters/FAQ--Voter-registration/) Chile - ID required (remove space for link) (https://chilereports.cl/en/news/2021/11/16/ questions-and-answers-2021-presidential-and-parliamentary-elections) If as someone mentioned "it's really hard to maintain proper ID" in the US, maybe that is the problem that needs solving, but I can't imagine having faith in an electoral system where one does not need to provide proof of identification. Absolutely bonkers, and such a weird stupid fight for democrats to be pushing for when literally ANY OTHER CONCERN would be a better use of their time. Can you think of any other major democracies that I have missed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 02/21/22 8:11:49 AM #481:	Dancedreamer posted... People suck. We've known this for a while. People are downright terrible. They always have been. This might be an even weirder situation than Trump's administration, given the current POTUS basically won by soaking up anti-votes en masse. For all you know practically any moderately popular and controversy-free candidate could have won the election in Biden's place. Also the more I think about Trump the more I realize he's no less phony than any other politician. He merely hid his phoniness under bluster. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:962832119] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted... </cite> <quote>People suck. We've known this for a while. People are downright terrible. They always have been.</quote> This might be an even weirder situation than Trump's administration, given the current POTUS basically won by soaking up anti-votes en masse. For all you know practically any moderately popular and controversy-free candidate could have won the election in Biden's place. Also the more I think about Trump the more I realize he's no less phony than any other politician. He merely hid his phoniness under bluster. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 02/21/22 8:14:29 AM #482:	Trump didn't hide shit He's made a living for 60 years on grifting --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:962832149] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Trump didn't hide shit He's made a living for 60 years on grifting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/21/22 8:27:23 AM #483:	Trump took the "if I don't hide it then it's ok, right" approach and he's been rewarded time and time again --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:962832348] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Trump took the "if I don't hide it then it's ok, right" approach and he's been rewarded time and time again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 02/21/22 11:54:41 AM #484:	Tulsi Gabbard to speak at C-Pac. Of course she is. I'm sure in a few years Krysten Sinema will be speaking there too. I knew she was a wolf in sheeps clothing years ago. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:962836880] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Tulsi Gabbard to speak at C-Pac. Of course she is. I'm sure in a few years Krysten Sinema will be speaking there too. I knew she was a wolf in sheeps clothing years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 02/21/22 3:28:30 PM #485:	Russia announces they recognize two separate republics out of Ukraine and that they have peace treaties together. Demands Ukraine stop hostilities or they will be basically at war (which they will be soon). --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:962842866] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Russia announces they recognize two separate republics out of Ukraine and that they have peace treaties together. Demands Ukraine stop hostilities or they will be basically at war (which they will be soon). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 02/21/22 4:56:51 PM #486:	Hostilities --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:962845342] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Hostilities </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 02/21/22 5:48:37 PM #487:	blue states may need to remember that trick once republicans end democracy. declare independence and form peace treaties with canada and demand the fascist remnants of america cease hostilities. --- May you find your book in this place. <cite>xp1337 posted [p:962846766] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>blue states may need to remember that trick once republicans end democracy. declare independence and form peace treaties with canada and demand the fascist remnants of america cease hostilities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 02/22/22 6:47:59 AM #488:	https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1496086503017136134?s=21 --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:962861065] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1496086503017136134?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 02/22/22 2:53:11 PM #489:	Well --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:962871824] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Well </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 02/22/22 5:52:31 PM #490:	https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1496221147729481732 ...praying for mexico too now --- May you find your book in this place. <cite>xp1337 posted [p:962876689] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1496221147729481732 ...praying for mexico too now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 02/22/22 5:57:33 PM #491:	xp1337 posted... https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1496221147729481732 ...praying for mexico too now https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?s=21 --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:962876843] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1496221147729481732 ...praying for mexico too now</quote>https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 02/22/22 6:24:26 PM #492:	xp1337 posted... https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1496221147729481732 ...praying for mexico too now praying for this interviewer who is dumb enough to still treat Trump with respect and ask his position on geopolitics in literally 2022 --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:962877561] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1496221147729481732 ...praying for mexico too now</quote>praying for this interviewer who is dumb enough to still treat Trump with respect and ask his position on geopolitics in literally 2022 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 02/22/22 6:28:58 PM #493:	Kenri posted... praying for this interviewer who is dumb enough to still treat Trump with respect and ask his position on geopolitics in literally 2022 Nothing to do with intelligence, just part of the grift. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:962877696] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite> <quote>praying for this interviewer who is dumb enough to still treat Trump with respect and ask his position on geopolitics in literally 2022</quote> Nothing to do with intelligence, just part of the grift. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 02/23/22 6:27:05 PM #494:	https://www.axios.com/texas-abott-gender-affirming-care-trans-kids-423467ea-d634-4f2d-92cf-f688c43369f6.html https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1496511215719399431 Texas has instructed Family and Protective Services to begin investigating all trans children and to prosecute their parents as child abusers if they so much as allowed them to have puberty-blocking drugs. In addition, they are requiring any licensed professional including teachers, doctors, and nurses to report any suspicions to them so they can investigate the parents, with a failure to report constituting a criminal offense. And if my reading of Texas State Law is correct (and hell Abbott's letter basically says as much), it's a criminal offense for anyone to fail to report, not just teachers, doctors, etc. Abbott's letter as seen in that tweet notes when talking about teachers, etc. that "There are similar reporting requirements and criminal penalties for members of the general public." The statutes he cites in making that claim (if you want to join me in wading through dry legal text) are the Texas Family Code Chapter 261.101a and 261.109. 261.101 as a whole goes over the requirement to report. 101a requires "A person having reasonable causes to believe [...]" while 101b speaks specifically to professionals and provides the "teachers, doctors, nurses, day-care, clinic employees, [etc." list. The difference between the two seems to mostly be that the professional class there has an additional requirement to report within 48 hours. 261.109 is the section devoted to making failure to report a criminal offense. --- May you find your book in this place. <cite>xp1337 posted [p:962907477] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>https://www.axios.com/texas-abott-gender-affirming-care-trans-kids-423467ea-d634-4f2d-92cf-f688c43369f6.html https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1496511215719399431 Texas has instructed Family and Protective Services to begin investigating all trans children and to prosecute their parents as child abusers if they so much as allowed them to have puberty-blocking drugs. In addition, they are requiring any licensed professional including teachers, doctors, and nurses to report any suspicions to them so they can investigate the parents, with a failure to report constituting a criminal offense. And if my reading of Texas State Law is correct (and hell Abbott's letter basically says as much), it's a criminal offense for anyone to fail to report, not just teachers, doctors, etc. Abbott's letter as seen in that tweet notes when talking about teachers, etc. that "There are similar reporting requirements and criminal penalties for members of the general public." The statutes he cites in making that claim (if you want to join me in wading through dry legal text) are the Texas Family Code Chapter 261.101a and 261.109. 261.101 as a whole goes over the requirement to report. 101a requires "A person having reasonable causes to believe [...]" while 101b speaks specifically to professionals and provides the "teachers, doctors, nurses, day-care, clinic employees, [etc." list. The difference between the two seems to mostly be that the professional class there has an additional requirement to report within 48 hours. 261.109 is the section devoted to making failure to report a criminal offense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 02/23/22 6:40:12 PM #495:	Abbott is a real bad person --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:962907865] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Abbott is a real bad person </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TotallyNotMI 02/23/22 6:40:27 PM #496:	Uggggh --- I'm not sure who this MI guy is but he sounds sexy. <cite>TotallyNotMI posted [p:962907874] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Uggggh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 02/23/22 6:43:57 PM #497:	Jakyl25 posted... Abbott is a real bad person Very cool that a guy who should be in jail gets to continue to be a state AG --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:962907992] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Abbott is a real bad person</quote>Very cool that a guy who should be in jail gets to continue to be a state AG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 02/23/22 6:46:57 PM #498:	LordoftheMorons posted... Very cool that a guy who should be in jail gets to continue to be a state AG Very cool that our best chance of removing said AG from office is literally by voting for a guy named George Bush <cite>Reg posted [p:962908085] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Very cool that a guy who should be in jail gets to continue to be a state AG</quote>Very cool that our best chance of removing said AG from office is literally by voting for a guy named George Bush </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 02/23/22 7:41:07 PM #499:	Tom Bombadil posted... I keep wondering if I should get out of the US while I can --- pretend there is a trans flag emoji here <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:962909761] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>Tom Bombadil posted... </cite> <quote>I keep wondering if I should get out of the US while I can</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 02/23/22 7:45:57 PM #500:	I could always use a roommate up here! --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:962909893] in Politics C... [t:79850582]...</cite> <quote>I could always use a roommate up here! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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