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MZero
10/19/21 4:26:40 AM
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season starts tomorrow

pay the man Sarver

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ninkendo
10/19/21 4:27:09 AM
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oh ya go my Cade hopefully your ankle heals up

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KCF0107
10/19/21 4:28:43 AM
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Go Mavs!
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Leonhart4
10/19/21 10:03:45 AM
#4:


MZero posted...
season starts tomorrow

pay the man Sarver

The Suns demonstrating why they've been the Suns for so long

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Emeraldegg
10/19/21 10:20:47 AM
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I mean, they aren't wrong imo. Ayton isn't a max caliber player, he's close to it.

But they still need to pay him the max anyway because that's just how sports work. Sometimes you have to overpay for talent or you end up with no talent.

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Leonhart4
10/19/21 10:29:58 AM
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They drafted him higher than they should have because he's local, so it's a conundrum of their own making.

But if they don't pay Ayton the max, someone will.

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neonreaper
10/19/21 10:33:50 AM
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Celtics on the fast track to the 5 seed let's do this

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ShatteredElysium
10/19/21 10:35:09 AM
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Yeah I don't understand their stance. They either pay him the max now or they match a max offer in RFA in the summer but end up with a disgruntled player.

Unless they are trading him it makes no sense. Nobody wants to pay a C max money but you kinda set yourself up for that when you take a C that high. Any player you take that high you take expecting them to be a max player.
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KommunistKoala
10/19/21 10:37:37 AM
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spurs on the fast track to a top 5 pick with Pop probably retiring this year or next

fun times...

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KokoroAkechi
10/19/21 10:40:35 AM
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ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah I don't understand their stance. They either pay him the max now or they match a max offer in RFA in the summer but end up with a disgruntled player.

Unless they are trading him it makes no sense. Nobody wants to pay a C max money but you kinda set yourself up for that when you take a C that high. Any player you take that high you take expecting them to be a max player.

Robert Sarver not wanting to spend money? Never would have guessed.

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LiquidOshawott
10/19/21 10:43:05 AM
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Oh thank goodness this offseason felt so circular

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ShatteredElysium
10/19/21 10:48:54 AM
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I didn't renew my Magic season tickets this year (although I'll still go to 20-30 games I'm sure). I'm more excited than ever about the team, I just don't think I'll have the free time for 41 home games.
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Emeraldegg
10/19/21 11:02:15 AM
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A very interesting wrinkle to the ayton stuff that I just heard on windhorst's pod, it's quite possible that the reason the suns didn't want to offer ayton a 5 year deal specifically (It wasn't about the money, but the years. They wanted 4, ayton wanted 5) is because that would've made him a designated player, which would be their 2nd of 2. Which would mean they might have designs to acquire a designated player from elsewhere and wanted to have them, ayton, and booker all at once.


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Aecioo
10/19/21 11:08:25 AM
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ShatteredElysium
10/19/21 11:10:24 AM
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I just don't buy Ayton turning down a 4 year max because he can't get a 5 year max on the RFA market. So what does him turning down a 4 year max actually accomplish unless he intends on forcing his way out?
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Emeraldegg
10/19/21 11:12:35 AM
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I mean at that point, its' not like you have anything to lose. Everyone thinks he can get the default max on the market if the suns don't give him 5 years, so would you rather take 4 years with phoenix when you think you're worth 5, or 4 years with another place that wants you more than phoenix does? I'd take the latter.

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ShatteredElysium
10/19/21 11:18:26 AM
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He doesn't get the choice of elsewhere though. He's an RFA and Phoenix will just match another team offering a max.

The only thing he has done is screw himself if he gets injured this season (or has a bad year in general)
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Emeraldegg
10/19/21 11:34:13 AM
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If he doesn't get injured though, or have a bad season, he can just take the QO and be unrestricted next year, which maybe to him is worth it to get out of phoenix if they don't want to offer him the 5 years

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ShatteredElysium
10/19/21 11:40:02 AM
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Nobody ever takes the qualifying offer. Especially not when there's a 120m offer on the table.

The only way it makes sense is if he forces his way out via trade
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Emeraldegg
10/19/21 11:50:17 AM
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I guess. Just saying though, no one ever holds out with more than 1 year on their contract until ben simmons tried it.

What if a team tries to offer a 1-2 year deal just to screw with the suns? Could that happen?

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SeabassDebeste
10/19/21 11:52:22 AM
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thought about going for celtics @ knicks tickets since they're listed at only $80 on stubhub

but man, the bad seats at madison square garden are so bad
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SeabassDebeste
10/19/21 11:53:31 AM
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also ayton's max isn't the same as like lillard or westbrook's max. refusing to pay the #1 overall pick a max rookie extension is just hilariously awful. i love it.
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Sorozone
10/19/21 12:23:26 PM
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Go Suns.

I think they will figure the Ayton thing out. Not too worried.

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Emeraldegg
10/19/21 12:57:43 PM
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Ben simmons susp for the season opener after getting into a spat at practice where doc kicked him out

popcorn

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Leonhart4
10/19/21 1:01:20 PM
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Now who's going to not take open layups in the 4th quarter

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RaidenGarai
10/19/21 1:01:53 PM
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Leonhart4
10/19/21 6:44:48 PM
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KCF0107
10/19/21 6:47:11 PM
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I am forever grateful for the franchise passing on Luka
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ShatteredElysium
10/19/21 7:38:11 PM
#29:


A friend just pointed out to me that apparently the Kings have 7 centers on the roster?
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SpikeSetsFire
10/19/21 7:41:23 PM
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ScareChan
10/19/21 7:51:03 PM
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Kings have a ton of Centers, yeah. Alex Len, Metu, Holmes, Tristan Tompson, Neemias Queta,, Damian Jones, Mo Harkless I think would be 7

Bagley was okay in pre season work, but then he kept resting for soreness which... is concerning. So he fell out of rotation already.

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ScareChan
10/19/21 7:52:40 PM
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conversely Buddy Heild has slotted back in and he'll get his minutes despite him always being in trade talks and having one foot in LA just this off season.

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KommunistKoala
10/19/21 8:09:11 PM
#33:


Buddy Hield is playing center!?

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ScareChan
10/19/21 8:47:59 PM
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KommunistKoala posted...
Buddy Hield is playing center!?

Shit he might as well

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Sorozone
10/19/21 11:07:21 PM
#35:


Overreaction: Lakers look like they have absolutely no chemistry.

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Dr_Football
10/20/21 1:02:13 AM
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Buddy Hield's NBA career high point might be after every Lakers loss this year their fans wishing they had traded for him

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ninkendo
10/20/21 3:36:59 AM
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https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2021/10/19/22735463/cade-cunningham-injury-detroit-pistons-out-chicago-bulls

The injury is probably worse than the pistons have been letting on but but they wanted so badly to sell tickets for the home opener after all the money they lost last season that they didn't want to say anything until 24 hours before the game

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Sorozone
10/20/21 10:16:25 PM
#38:


This Boston New York game is fucking nutty.

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LeonhartFour
10/20/21 10:45:09 PM
#39:


Might as well enjoy the Spurs being above .500 while I can

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ninkendo
10/20/21 11:07:03 PM
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Pistons drop first game of the season getting a head start on the new tank

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LeonhartFour
10/20/21 11:30:19 PM
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SpikeSetsFire
10/20/21 11:56:55 PM
#42:


76ers win without Simmons. Excellent.
Cop that, Simmons, ya Mug.


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neonreaper
10/21/21 6:39:55 AM
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Can the season be over already. Not looking forward to this

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SeabassDebeste
10/21/21 7:04:45 AM
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neonreaper posted...
Can the season be over already. Not looking forward to this

that was not fun
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ninkendo
10/21/21 8:40:35 AM
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The pistons game last night overall they hung with a team who is likely going to be a playoff team even without Cunningham but they just couldn't find the offense in the 4th quarter to finish it off and Zach LaVine ended up having his way in the end

Killian Hayes was abysmal he had 0 points

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neonreaper
10/21/21 9:03:09 AM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
that was not fun

2-15 from downtown and Tatum blows it off. that's not what I'm looking for.

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MZero
10/21/21 9:11:53 AM
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Not a great start for my Suns. Booker is not in shape yet but he'll get there. Ayton was aggressive early which was good to see.

Jalen Smith is still getting DNPs as a top 10 pick in his second year... could have taken Haliburton...

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KommunistKoala
10/21/21 9:28:49 AM
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i take it back spurs are going undefeated

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LiquidOshawott
10/21/21 9:33:20 AM
#49:


neonreaper posted...
2-15 from downtown and Tatum blows it off. that's not what I'm looking for.

On the other hand Jaylen Brown looked like an absolute monster so its good to see he mostly looked recovered

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Emeraldegg
10/21/21 3:47:18 PM
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Simmons is now pulling the probably-fake injury gambit, he skipped today's workout because of "back tightness"

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