Poll of the Day > Joe Rogan got Covid and decided to take Ivermectin

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Judgmenl
09/01/21 5:31:55 PM
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https://twitter.com/zachzachzach/status/1433165332928032768

10/10 quuality meme world. Guy should go to jail.

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DirtBasedSoap
09/01/21 5:43:17 PM
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lmao what a fucking moron

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EvilMegas
09/01/21 5:49:38 PM
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They don't trust the vaccine that's proven to work and instead take random meme meds???

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DirtBasedSoap
09/01/21 5:59:22 PM
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so we immediately threw the kitchen sink at it

holy shit that statement

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Krazy_Kirby
09/01/21 6:00:14 PM
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why should he go to jail?
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Blighboy
09/01/21 6:02:01 PM
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That's truly the best thing I've heard all day, wow

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Clench281
09/01/21 6:03:20 PM
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Of course he did

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shadowsword87
09/01/21 6:16:47 PM
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Man it's hard to have so much brain in one space, it must just constantly be overheating.
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papercup
09/01/21 6:53:38 PM
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He looks like shit.

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Mead
09/01/21 6:54:40 PM
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What a fucking moron

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rjsilverthorn
09/01/21 6:59:07 PM
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I hope he dies, not because I have any particular ill will against him, but if he survives people will point to it as a reason that Ivermectin works regardless of the fact that he might of recovered without it.
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Kyuubi4269
09/01/21 7:04:37 PM
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It's amusing seeing people get so butthurt about Ivermectin based on what mainstream news tells them about it, while also being the people who say the news is controlling the masses with misinformation lmao
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BlackScythe0
09/01/21 7:05:09 PM
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Uh....

Prednisone is used to treat conditions such as arthritis, blood disorders, breathing problems, severe allergies, skin diseases, cancer, eye problems, and immune system disorders. Prednisone belongs to a class of drugs known as corticosteroids. It decreases your immune system's response to various diseases to reduce symptoms such as swelling and allergic-type reactions.
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Kyuubi4269
09/01/21 7:07:22 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Uh....

Prednisone is used to treat conditions such as arthritis, blood disorders, breathing problems, severe allergies, skin diseases, cancer, eye problems, and immune system disorders. Prednisone belongs to a class of drugs known as corticosteroids. It decreases your immune system's response to various diseases to reduce symptoms such as swelling and allergic-type reactions.

This isn't really as bad as it seems, since clotting is an immune response and what I heard ages ago is that this is how Covid causes clotting.
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Far-Queue
09/01/21 7:09:24 PM
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Mead
09/01/21 7:09:34 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's amusing seeing people get so butthurt about Ivermectin based on what mainstream news tells them about it, while also being the people who say the news is controlling the masses with misinformation lmao

as usual you completely misunderstand the current contextual environment because youre too preoccupied with trying seem smarmy and superior to bOtH sIdEs

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Kyuubi4269
09/01/21 7:12:50 PM
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Mead posted...


as usual you completely misunderstand the current contextual environment because youre too preoccupied with trying seem smarmy and superior to bOtH sIdEs

lol babe, do you think if Ivermectin didn't exist, they'd go get the vaccine? No, they'd just go do some other random shit because they're dumbasses.

It's like those people who treat everything with Aspirin; it won't do much but whatever, stupid people be stupid. Difference is people getting bent out of shape when they hear it's used in vetinaries too because they're dumb sheep too who don't research anything before they speak.
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Bulbasaur
09/01/21 7:13:25 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's amusing seeing people get so butthurt about Ivermectin based on what mainstream news tells them about it, while also being the people who say the news is controlling the masses with misinformation lmao

it's amusing seeing people get so butthurt about the vaccine based on what mainstream news tells them about it, while also being the people who say the news is controlling the masses with misinformation lmao

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rjsilverthorn
09/01/21 7:13:54 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
while also being the people who say the news is controlling the masses with misinformation lmao
I have never said this. My issue with it is that Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic and there is absolutely no reason to believe it would serve any purpose in treating a viral infection.

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Bulbasaur
09/01/21 7:15:10 PM
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ding ding ding there's the correct response to dumbass ivermectin shills

it is a dewormer, it does absolutely nothing to viral infections.

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EvilMegas
09/01/21 7:15:32 PM
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Literal human garbage lmao

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Kyuubi4269
09/01/21 7:16:59 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...

I have never said this. My issue with it is that Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic and there is absolutely no reason to believe it would serve any purpose in treating a viral infection.


And? It's such a minor issue. Anybody who would go do stupid shit wouldn't do anything better without knowing this, is basically harmless.
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Mead
09/01/21 7:19:08 PM
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Far-Queue posted...

LMAO oh shit

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Gaawa_chan
09/01/21 7:19:50 PM
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... The anti-vaxxers are the ones screaming about how they won't put something in their body if they don't know exactly what it is even as they poison themselves with a worm-killing substance that's measured in doses for HORSES, doses that can and do cause seizures in and kill other animals.

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helIy
09/01/21 7:21:25 PM
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they also never question the shit hospitals have to give them when they inevitably have to go there

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ArvTheGreat
09/01/21 7:21:35 PM
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there body there choice if it makes them happy whos to say

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Kyuubi4269
09/01/21 7:21:51 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
... The anti-vaxxers are the ones screaming about how they won't put something in their body if they don't know exactly what it is even as they poison themselves with a worm-killing substance that's measured in doses for HORSES, doses that can and do cause seizures in and kill other animals.

It's literally been used for 40 years on people and has FDA approval lol people medicine gets taken in people doses, if you take any medicine in horse doses you will get fucked up, this is not unique to Ivermectin.
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Bulbasaur
09/01/21 7:23:32 PM
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it's used to treat acne in humans, as a topical treatment.

it's not meant for humans to eat horse paste formulated for animals.

it's also not for viral infections.

it's making people go blind and causing organ failure.

because it's for animals and they're eating it.

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Kyuubi4269
09/01/21 7:29:20 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
it's used to treat acne in humans, as a topical treatment.

it's not meant for humans to eat horse paste formulated for animals.

it's also not for viral infections.

it's making people go blind and causing organ failure.

because it's for animals and they're eating it.

Some people are using the horse variant yes, however the vast majority are not. The whole horse drug thing is a load of media spin and you're eating it right up like a good shill.
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shadowsword87
09/01/21 7:47:54 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Some people are using the horse variant yes, however the vast majority are not. The whole horse drug thing is a load of media spin and you're eating it right up like a good shill.

What, how many people are taking this then?
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adjl
09/01/21 7:54:37 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Some people are using the horse variant yes, however the vast majority are not. The whole horse drug thing is a load of media spin and you're eating it right up like a good shill.

See, here's the thing: Whatever they were taking, they'd be idiots for glomping onto the current Unproven Experimental Drug of the Week, and they would be mocked accordingly. That they're taking horse dewormer - even in doses that would not actually be used for deworming horses (not that "safe oral dose of ivermectin for humans" is a concept that any actual scientific process has recognized or defined) - just makes it even sillier. That's not so much media spin (read: distorting the facts to lead to erroneous conclusions) as it is media embellishment (read: distorting facts to be more entertaining, without changing the underlying conclusions).

Either way, these people are idiots. Making idiots looking extra idiotic isn't hurting anyone. They're still idiots.

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Mead
09/01/21 8:10:51 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's literally been used for 40 years on people and has FDA approval lol people medicine gets taken in people doses, if you take any medicine in horse doses you will get fucked up, this is not unique to Ivermectin.

who gives a shit?

they should get vaccinated

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EvilMegas
09/01/21 8:22:31 PM
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Why are you all arguing with him? Seriously, we know he's a psychopath.

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adjl
09/01/21 8:27:00 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Why are you all arguing with him? Seriously, we know he's a psychopath.

We do, but I get where he's coming from here. It's similar (though different in at least one key regard) from saying that people were drinking aquarium cleaner because somebody said hydroxychloroquine cured Covid. That's very much a hyperbole that isn't entirely accurate, an inaccuracy which a lot of people overlook in their rush to laugh at stupid people. Overlooking inaccuracies in such a time of rampant misinformation can be dangerous, so it's worth making an effort to make sure they're pointed out where appropriate so as to prevent people from being dangerously misled.

That said, I don't see much of a problem with this particular instance, given that the inaccuracy in question is largely academic and therefore just adds entertainment value, rather than being meaningfully misleading. He's not wrong, this is just a case where being right doesn't matter much.

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Metalsonic66
09/01/21 9:20:20 PM
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Fear Factor is every day

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Smarkil
09/01/21 9:32:41 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
it's used to treat acne in humans, as a topical treatment.

it's not meant for humans to eat horse paste formulated for animals.

it's also not for viral infections.

it's making people go blind and causing organ failure.

because it's for animals and they're eating it.

I know it's fun to be hyperbolic about the horse medicine and what not but like, they make human pills for it. We all know that right? It appears to be useless for fighting covid but always referring to it as a horse dewormer feels like the same thing as the old cigarette ads that used to say cigs had rat poison in them.

For a while India even included it as part of their home treatment kits sent out by their government. They've since taken it out because it doesn't do anything, but it was still thought to be, at the very least, a relatively harmless addition to their medication.

I mean, yeah, don't jam some weird horse shit in your body. But as fun as it is to make fun of these idiots, let's call a spade a spade.

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Metalsonic66
09/01/21 9:35:56 PM
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Smarkil posted...
I mean, yeah, don't jam some weird horse shit in your body
Don't kink-shame

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joemodda
09/01/21 9:39:18 PM
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Oof, hope he gets better

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BlackScythe0
09/01/21 9:42:39 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Don't kink-shame

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Grinderpug
09/02/21 3:53:52 AM
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Far-Queue posted...


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MeteoricBurst
09/02/21 6:00:04 AM
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Joke Rogan.

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Kyuubi4269
09/02/21 3:33:12 PM
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adjl posted...
not that "safe oral dose of ivermectin for humans" is a concept that any actual scientific process has recognized or defined

https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/ivermectin-oral-route/proper-use/drg-20064397
That took a whole 2 seconds.

adjl posted...
That's not so much media spin (read: distorting the facts to lead to erroneous conclusions) as it is media embellishment (read: distorting facts to be more entertaining, without changing the underlying conclusions).

It's an erroneous conclusion that people are going for vetinary medicine to treat an ailment, when they are in fact just dosing normal human medicine. They're putting spin on it to make the thing look more incredulous so people can go HuR dUr DeM dUm TrUmPiEs when it's the most boring shit in the world.

adjl posted...
Either way, these people are idiots. Making idiots looking extra idiotic isn't hurting anyone. They're still idiots.

Not really. When you misrepresent something, you make yourself look unreliable for credible information, and if you take it at face value, it makes you look like you rely on bad sources for strong opinions, which weighs badly on you.
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adjl
09/02/21 3:39:26 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/ivermectin-oral-route/proper-use/drg-20064397
That took a whole 2 seconds.

Huh. Look at that. I think it's fairly safe to presume the people taking it aren't exactly following those dosing guidelines, but it would appear I was mistaken.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's an erroneous conclusion that people are going for vetinary medicine to treat an ailment, when they are in fact just dosing normal human medicine.

The salient conclusion is that the people in question are idiots. That doesn't change whether they're taking a human drug with no documented medical benefit for their current situation or a veterinary one. Any further nuance to the conclusion doesn't really matter.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Not really. When you misrepresent something, you make yourself look unreliable for credible information, and if you take it at face value, it makes you look like you rely on bad sources for strong opinions, which weighs badly on you.

Only if you're dealing with people that don't understand how to pick their battles when it comes to factual accuracy.

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Jen0125
09/02/21 3:52:02 PM
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Far-Queue posted...

Yoink

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Zareth
09/02/21 4:31:25 PM
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Smarkil posted...
I know it's fun to be hyperbolic about the horse medicine and what not but like, they make human pills for it. We all know that right? It appears to be useless for fighting covid but always referring to it as a horse dewormer feels like the same thing as the old cigarette ads that used to say cigs had rat poison in them.
Yeah but here's the thing, you need a prescription from a doctor to get the human pills, and of course no doctor in their right mind is going to prescribe it for COVID prevention. You know what you don't need a prescription for? The horse variant.

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Gaawa_chan
09/02/21 4:54:00 PM
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I cannot imagine how frustrating this has to be for people who actually own sick horses.

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Bulbasaur
09/02/21 8:12:44 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/02/21 8:32:17 PM
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Has anyone considered that he was prescribed Ivermectin for another condition that was found during his examination? It's not just horse dewormer. It's also being tested for use against malaria. Maybe he'd been bitten by a mosquito recently.

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adjl
09/02/21 8:37:56 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Has anyone considered that he was proscribed Ivermectin for another condition that was found during his examination?

  1. That's not in any way a plausible interpretation of what he said
  2. A covid test really is not an "examination" in the typical sense of the word, and has exactly zero chance of detecting intestinal or skin parasites (which Ivermectin is used to treat) because it's literally just a nasal swab


SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
It's also being tested for use against malaria. Maybe he'd been bitten by a mosquito recently.

"Being tested for use against malaria" does not mean "being given to random people who maybe got bitten by a mosquito recently," especially in a part of the world where endemic malaria was eradicated ~70 years ago. Nobody treats people in the US for malaria as a prophylactic measure because they were recently bitten by a mosquito.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/02/21 8:44:58 PM
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adjl posted...
A covid test really is not an "examination" in the typical sense of the word, and has exactly zero chance of detecting intestinal or skin parasites (which Ivermectin is used to treat) because it's literally just a nasal swab
So you think the doctor only gave him one test? Every time I've been to the hospital they drew blood just to check it for anything they weren't immediately looking for.

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