Poll of the Day > So is Israel at war with someone?

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MrMelodramatic
05/11/21 1:16:41 PM
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Haven't read the news in a while but I heard some people died and some bombs bombed. Can someone catch me up

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Mead
05/11/21 1:18:56 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

The IsraeliPalestinian conflict is the ongoing struggle between Israelis and Palestinians that began in the mid-20th century amidst the greater ArabIsraeli conflict.[3] Various attempts have been made to resolve the conflict as part of the IsraeliPalestinian peace process.[4] It has been referred to as the world's "most intractable conflict," with the ongoing Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip reaching 54 years.

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Jen0125
05/11/21 1:21:26 PM
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Really, dude?

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DirtBasedSoap
05/11/21 1:22:32 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Really, dude?


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FatalAccident
05/11/21 1:24:36 PM
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I think hes talking about this

Israel-Palestinians: Old grievances fuel new fighting https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-57074460

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Lokarin
05/11/21 1:25:19 PM
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In a weird way this war has been going on for thousands of years, the first tribes of Israel against the Philistines (same region)

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Fam_Fam
05/11/21 1:26:21 PM
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morality
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Cacciato
05/11/21 1:28:16 PM
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Yeah theyre fighting with Palestine. Its a relatively new conflict and definitely hasnt been going on the last couple decades since before you were born.
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MrMelodramatic
05/11/21 1:40:17 PM
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Y'know, this seems obvious in hindsight, but I assumed there was some new conflict that was going on. The way a friend phrased it to me implied a foreign nation invaded or something.

thx everyone

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Lokarin
05/11/21 1:41:09 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
but I assumed there was some new conflict that was going on

I understood what you meant, I had to check to see if there was indeed a new conflict

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Mead
05/11/21 1:42:07 PM
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Its been in the news because Israel has been just totally trampling the human rights of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip lately. More so than usual even. Bombing a mosque and literally throwing flashbang grenades at families and children

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Kanatteru
05/11/21 2:04:58 PM
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Mead posted...
Bombing a mosque

not just "a mosque", but literally the second mosque ever built in the world. it's the third holiest site in islam

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Mead
05/11/21 2:09:55 PM
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I remember some old journalist was interviewed around a decade or so ago, it was just a fluff piece because she was being celebrated, and someone asked her about the conflict and her response was that the Israelis needed to get the hell out of Palestine

The media freaked the fuck out and condemned what she said and blamed the idiot who asked her about something so controversial

But really I think she is right. They are an occupying force.

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dragon504
05/11/21 2:09:57 PM
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Israel has been slowly eating Palestine for decades. It's crazy if you look at the maps of how the territorial borders have changed.

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Zeus
05/11/21 2:14:30 PM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
Y'know, this seems obvious in hindsight, but I assumed there was some new conflict that was going on. The way a friend phrased it to me implied a foreign nation invaded or something.

When something blows up in Israel, the list of suspects is usually pretty short.

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Muscles
05/11/21 3:02:28 PM
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I'm not sure why so many people hate Israel. They're the only democracy/ally of the west in the middle east. Sure they do some messed up stuff but it's not like Palestine is innocent either, and they hate the west.

This whole this is France/UK's fault for wanting to colonize the middle east after WWI and drawing random borders with no regard for how they split up cultures, it just got much worse after WWII

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Mead
05/11/21 4:00:57 PM
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havent the Palestinians been in that region for thousands of years? It seems like Israel is almost entirely supported by US Christian evangelicals that are ignorant of actual history

If you think China and North Korea are awful because of all the violations of human rights that they commit, then I think if youre honest with yourself you should take a close look at how Palestinians are treated by Israel

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DirtBasedSoap
05/11/21 4:02:52 PM
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Muscles posted...
I'm not sure why so many people hate Israel.
lol
muscles post

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Cacciato
05/11/21 4:42:56 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
lol
muscles post
Fucking Christ, this. Why does he do this to himself
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IronBornCorps
05/11/21 4:49:06 PM
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I read Israel is also not distributing vaccines to Palestinians.

Covid cases are on the rise behind the iron barrier.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/11/21 4:54:12 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Fucking Christ, this. Why does he do this to himself
Same reason he joins gang mentality against users. Look cool. He could use the time he stares at coworkers and read a newspaper or a book with different opinions.

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DirtBasedSoap
05/11/21 5:03:19 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Fucking Christ, this. Why does he do this to himself
FAS

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Ferarri619
05/11/21 5:09:50 PM
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Hamas has frequently used their own civilians as human shields to protect their own military during these conflicts. Why people are so quick to defend this terrorist nation is beyond me.

Also who is that one female PotDer who joined the Israeli military? Someone tag her and see how she's doing

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IronBornCorps
05/11/21 5:16:32 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
Why people are so quick to defend this terrorist nation is beyond me.

I'm sure if your neighbor moved someone into your house and forced you to live in a small closet, you would be upset by that as well.

Also, conflating an entire nation as terrorist is pretty racist.

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Ferarri619
05/11/21 5:20:20 PM
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IronBornCorps posted...
Also, conflating an entire nation as terrorist is pretty racist.

So you support a nation using civilians as human shields and getting them killed to protect their own military, and anyone who doesn't support their military is racist. Okay then

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MrMelodramatic
05/11/21 5:28:14 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
So you support a nation using civilians as human shields and getting them killed to protect their own military, and anyone who doesn't support their military is racist. Okay then
yup that sure is a thing she didn't say

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IronBornCorps
05/11/21 5:32:35 PM
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So you support a nation that denies medical treatment, ample food security, and gets away with human rights violations just because they are allied with the US?
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Jen0125
05/11/21 5:40:52 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
FAS

Lmao you're wrong for this one

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BlackScythe0
05/11/21 5:57:08 PM
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Lokarin posted...
In a weird way this war has been going on for thousands of years, the first tribes of Israel against the Philistines (same region)

WW1 didn't happen thousands of years ago.
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Judgmenl
05/11/21 6:09:07 PM
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I feel like this is a weird jab at not acknowledging Palestine as a state.

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Mead
05/11/21 6:11:34 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
I feel like this is a weird jab at not acknowledging Palestine as a state.

I dont think Melo would do that

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Judgmenl
05/11/21 6:12:54 PM
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I don't either.
I just read it weird.

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thedeerzord
05/11/21 6:13:09 PM
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I am neither pro Israel nor am I pro Palestine.

They can both go fuck themselves.

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DirtBasedSoap
05/11/21 6:20:55 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Lmao you're wrong for this one
its the only explanation

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Mead
05/11/21 6:22:27 PM
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So many videos surfacing right now of Israeli forces kicking families out of their homes at gunpoint so that Israeli people can have them

There is no justification

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MrMelodramatic
05/11/21 6:34:58 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
I feel like this is a weird jab at not acknowledging Palestine as a state.
Nah. I'm pro Palestine tbh. I just misunderstood the current sitch so this topic makes me look like a dumbass lmao

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Lokarin
05/11/21 6:38:54 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
WW1 didn't happen thousands of years ago.

First of all, WW1, whut?

Secondly, ancient Israel - the 12 Tribes region

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Cacciato
05/11/21 6:41:00 PM
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Lokarin posted...
First of all, WW1, whut?

Secondly, ancient Israel - the 12 Tribes region
Are you actually struggling with his post?
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BlackScythe0
05/11/21 6:43:13 PM
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Lokarin posted...
First of all, WW1, whut?

Secondly, ancient Israel - the 12 Tribes region

Completely unrelated. The fight is over land, it happened when the UK got the territory after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire when they lost in WW1. The UK kicked people out of their homes shipped jews in and played them off each other to make governing easy and then just threw their hands up and tossed it to the league of nations after WW2 when their plan caused chaos.

That is the roots of the conflict, the only people who talk about ancient history or religion are people who are trying to inflame anti-muslim sentiment.
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Lokarin
05/11/21 6:47:26 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
That is the roots of the conflict, the only people who talk about ancient history or religion are people who are trying to inflame anti-muslim sentiment.

umm, Muslims didn't exist at the time

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BlackScythe0
05/11/21 6:48:27 PM
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Lokarin posted...
umm, Muslims didn't exist at the time

BlackScythe0 posted...
Completely unrelated.

Read more than the closing statement.

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Muscles
05/11/21 7:08:12 PM
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I'm not saying Israel is perfect or anything, but it's not like they're a Bully nation that is picking on some defenseless people. The violence goes both ways and has since the beginning

The real villains here are the Allies that decided to make it in the 1st place following WWII, we should have just left the middle east alone

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Lokarin
05/11/21 7:08:48 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Read more than the closing statement.

to be fair, since I don't live in the general region I thought the modern Israel was land from WW2, not WW1... like, 'cuz of Mehmet VI or whatever

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Mead
05/11/21 7:09:01 PM
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Muscles posted...
but it's not like they're a Bully nation that is picking on some defenseless people.

So I take it you havent seen much recent footage of what is happening in that part of the world?

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Muscles
05/11/21 7:17:18 PM
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And the Palestinians are just as bad, like most of history there is no good side to this conflict

Modern Israel shouldn't have existed in the 1st place but we can't go back and change that now

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BlackScythe0
05/11/21 7:19:20 PM
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Lokarin posted...
to be fair, since I don't live in the general region I thought the modern Israel was land from WW2, not WW1... like, 'cuz of Mehmet VI or whatever

The end of WW2 was when a lot of places (like Israel) were decolonized and became independent.
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GanonsSpirit
05/11/21 7:19:47 PM
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Muscles, have you ever considered shutting the fuck up? Because you sound like a dumbass every time you post.
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Mead
05/11/21 7:39:05 PM
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Muscles posted...
And the Palestinians are just as bad, like most of history there is no good side to this conflict

why should any family be kicked out of the home they own so that it can be given to someone else deemed a chosen person

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Red04
05/11/21 7:43:00 PM
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Hamas has frequently used their own civilians as human shields to protect their own military during these conflicts. Why people are so quick to defend this terrorist nation is beyond me.

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Mead
05/11/21 7:44:12 PM
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@Red04

Mead posted...
why should any family be kicked out of the home they own so that it can be given to someone else deemed a chosen person


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