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Paratroopa1
05/13/21 7:37:26 PM
#52:


it's ok I'm sure the free speech squad will rise up to defend them

any... moment... now
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FFDragon
05/13/21 7:37:50 PM
#53:


we fought a world war to make sure everyone knew ethnic cleansing was bad

how have we regressed so far

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Paratroopa1
05/13/21 7:40:09 PM
#54:


FFDragon posted...
we fought a world war to make sure everyone knew ethnic cleansing was bad

how have we regressed so far
that's certainly not why the US fought the war
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Xeybozn
05/13/21 8:02:51 PM
#55:


FFDragon posted...
we fought a world war to make sure everyone knew ethnic cleansing was bad

how have we regressed so far

Even if that was why the US fought WWII (it's not), we'd be too dumb to generalize the idea. At best we'd have learned that "ethnic cleansing of Jewish people is bad", but we wouldn't think to apply that to any other groups.
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fuming
05/13/21 8:42:07 PM
#56:


The US is founded on ethnic cleansing of countless different cultures and it and many of it's major allies are actively engaging in ethnic cleansing as we speak. It's never been something we were very concerned with at all unless the country we are pretending to be morally outraged at is a political opponent.
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GuessMyUserName
05/14/21 12:23:21 PM
#57:


https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1393223398793355264

literally any other job in the world you'd be kicked out right on your ass but american politicians really have absolutely no standards

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LordoftheMorons
05/14/21 1:41:47 PM
#58:


https://twitter.com/sarah_boxer/status/1393168723838750723?s=21

It was always obvious that House Rs were dumber than Senate Rs, but wow

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Suprak the Stud
05/14/21 1:49:18 PM
#59:


So the nos in the Senate are definitely Hawley, Tuberville, and...hm. I'm actually not sure after that.

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Yesmar_
05/14/21 1:52:16 PM
#60:


Braun, Cramer, Johnson and Paul are the 4 No's in the Senate I believe. Johnson and Paul say they don't need it, since they already got COVID.\

Edit: Braun and Cramer refuse to say publicly if they have gotten the vaccine; not a definitive no.

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Suprak the Stud
05/14/21 1:53:13 PM
#61:


Oh dang 0/4.

Shocked Hawley got it.

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Paratroopa1
05/14/21 1:55:01 PM
#62:


Yesmar_ posted...
Braun, Cramer, Johnson and Paul are the 4 No's in the Senate I believe. Johnson and Paul say they don't need it, since they already got COVID.\

Edit: Braun and Cramer refuse to say publicly if they have gotten the vaccine; not a definitive no.
What's the source on this?
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LordoftheMorons
05/14/21 1:57:17 PM
#63:


Paratroopa1 posted...
What's the source on this?
The article in the tweet I linked mentions those four specifically

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LordoftheMorons
05/14/21 3:29:43 PM
#64:


I'm generally not a huge fan of ballot measures, but this is some serious fuckery from Mississippi's state supreme court:

https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1393279640375070723

(the initiative in question legalized medical marijuana)

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red sox 777
05/14/21 3:33:44 PM
#65:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I'm generally not a huge fan of ballot measures, but this is some serious fuckery from Mississippi's state supreme court:

https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1393279640375070723

(the initiative in question legalized medical marijuana)

Wow that's really bad coming from a state supreme court. Unfortunately since they are interpreting state law that's probably the final word on this.

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LordoftheMorons
05/14/21 3:37:06 PM
#66:


Quote from the opinion:
https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1393288514465320961

....jfc

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ChaosTonyV4
05/14/21 3:53:30 PM
#67:


Is that challengeable Federally? Seems absolutely insane.

Like does this invalidate every ballot-initiative theyve had since 2000?

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LordoftheMorons
05/14/21 3:58:36 PM
#68:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Is that challengeable Federally? Seems absolutely insane.

Like does this invalidate every ballot-initiative theyve had since 2000?
For the first question I'm pretty certain the answer is no since they're interpreting MS state law

For the second... I assume so?

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red sox 777
05/14/21 3:59:10 PM
#69:


At a glance, the only basis I can think of to challenge it federally is the republican form of government clause. I think you could make an argument that a state that invalidates 20 years of ballot initiatives on a stupid technicality no longer has a republican form of government. Probably not going to work though.

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masterplum
05/14/21 4:38:36 PM
#70:


Yeah, every ballot measure has to be thrown out now.

That's hilarious

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ChaosTonyV4
05/14/21 7:25:43 PM
#71:


https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1392578177877397514?s=21

woof

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StealThisSheen
05/14/21 7:45:37 PM
#72:


To be fair, the answers are probably skewed by the media as of late where right now the only thing a lot of people are seeing about her is basically her going "fuck trump"

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ChaosTonyV4
05/14/21 7:48:37 PM
#73:


StealThisSheen posted...
To be fair, the answers are probably skewed by the media as of late where right now the only thing a lot of people are seeing about her is basically her going "fuck trump"

Somehow that makes it worse.

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fuming
05/14/21 8:03:52 PM
#74:


it isn't very surprising, the exact same people did a complete 180 and decided they love george w bush just because the media, too. it's very much not a good sign for a democracy that people are this malleable and have the memory of a goldfish, but that's where we are.
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Grimlyn
05/14/21 8:15:08 PM
#75:


most people don't really know anything about politicians on policy

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LordoftheMorons
05/14/21 8:36:29 PM
#76:


More Gaetz:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1393345623089373190?s=21

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Suprak the Stud
05/14/21 9:50:53 PM
#77:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1392578177877397514?s=21

woof

Big yikes.

Grimlyn posted...
most people don't really know anything about politicians on policy

Also true. But still yikes.

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xp1337
05/15/21 2:07:45 AM
#78:


In not important news, but still a follow-up/update...

Remember Trump's last minute "Garden of American Heroes" EO filled with such "heroes" as Columbus, Andrew Jackson, Scalia, etc.? Biden revoked it yesterday: https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-revokes-trumps-plans-for-a-national-garden-of-american-heroes

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Peace___Frog
05/15/21 9:23:48 AM
#80:


Israel bombed the building where AP and Al Jazeera had their offices, so now is a great time to stop both-sidsing this conflict.

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FFDragon
05/15/21 1:04:18 PM
#81:


Can't have bad press if you explode all the press.

*head point*

e: oh hey my shitpost is basically what AP said too but in nicer words

https://blog.ap.org/announcements/ap-statement-on-destruction-of-gaza-bureau

The world will know less about what is happening in Gaza because of what happened today.


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ExThaNemesis
05/15/21 1:48:01 PM
#82:


I wonder how much of my tax dollars go to funding Israel's genocide machine.

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FFDragon
05/15/21 2:58:11 PM
#83:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I wonder how much of my tax dollars go to funding Israel's genocide machine.

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1392718512054022145?s=20

(That is an accurate number)

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Xeybozn
05/15/21 3:08:29 PM
#84:


Disregard this post, I am subhuman trash.
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FFDragon
05/15/21 3:12:14 PM
#85:


That isn't the gotcha I think you think it is.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/15/21 3:13:30 PM
#86:


FFDragon posted...
That isn't the gotcha I think you think it is.


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ChaosTonyV4
05/15/21 3:41:33 PM
#87:


What just happened?

anyway:

https://twitter.com/spaceandguns/status/1393546026317910023?s=21

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Jakyl25
05/15/21 4:35:18 PM
#88:


Warrens seems fine though? With the exception that there are no ideas there about HOW to do that
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ChaosTonyV4
05/15/21 5:47:33 PM
#89:


I dont think anyone both-sides-ing the issue is doing good.


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DoomTheGyarados
05/15/21 5:52:14 PM
#90:


Warren's take is for sure not both sidesing it. At least in that tweet.

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LordoftheMorons
05/15/21 5:53:27 PM
#91:


I mean I don't think pretending Hamas is good is doing anyone any good, and you can condemn Israel's actions without acting like they are. Warren's statement is fine.

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masterplum
05/15/21 5:55:19 PM
#92:


Yeah, don't think Hamas is faultless here.

I'll take just any condemnation of Israel

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ChaosTonyV4
05/15/21 5:57:04 PM
#93:


If you steal my bike and I punch you, then in response you shoot my family, I think someone starting their statement with We should stop punching people and shooting people and stealing bikes, that seems like both sides to me.

If you disagree, I literally dont care, Im just telling you how I see it.

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LordoftheMorons
05/15/21 6:00:48 PM
#94:


I mean I get your point, but I don't think rocket strikes are analogous to just punching someone.

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ChaosTonyV4
05/15/21 6:01:39 PM
#95:


Well yeah, but Israel isnt just stealing bikes lol

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kevwaffles
05/15/21 6:03:54 PM
#96:


That's basically the same logic people use to justify Israel doing whatever the hell they want.
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05/15/21 6:23:02 PM
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Suprak the Stud
05/15/21 6:26:17 PM
#98:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Warren's take is for sure not both sidesing it. At least in that tweet.

I dont mind it as much as Tony does but I do think it couldve been worded better as there is some politician speak here and it sounds both sides adjacent imo.

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ChaosTonyV4
05/15/21 6:29:39 PM
#99:


Also for the record, I dont hate it, shes at least acknowledging the illegal settlements and forced evictions (which is more than many other mainstream Dems have said), but the front portion is objectively not as good as IGNs Palestinians need help.

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Suprak the Stud
05/15/21 6:31:41 PM
#100:


Yeah definitely agree with that take, at least.

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KamikazePotato
05/15/21 6:35:47 PM
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GuessMyUserName
05/15/21 6:38:22 PM
#102:


The good is definitely alongside some politispeak, but the addressing of settlements and evictions definitely isn't being bothsides'd there. Rockets are being related to airstrikes yeah, but it's hard not to without being attacked for supporting Hamas

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