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Lightning Strikes
06/09/21 5:15:05 PM
#253:


Fantastic premiere. Also AoS and all the non-Marvel Studios shows are effectively decanonised and that is ok. They can be their own thing. It makes the MCU more accessible, but its still there if you want to watch it.

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GuessMyUserName
06/09/21 5:20:56 PM
#254:


Took a while getting into it but I was enjoying it from about half-way into the Owen Wilson interview

ending neat

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FFDragon
06/09/21 6:02:34 PM
#255:


AoS was 100% non canon before it even ended.

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GuessMyUserName
06/09/21 6:04:34 PM
#256:


you'll all see when we get our Quake appearance

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Mr Lasastryke
06/09/21 6:10:29 PM
#257:


wandavision referred to the mind control soap so AoS is clearly canon still!!

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Waluigi1
06/09/21 6:59:31 PM
#258:


And the complaining begins!

Anyway I fucking loved every minute of it and I cannot wait for more.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/09/21 7:06:00 PM
#259:


Waluigi1 posted...
And the complaining begins!

Anyway I fucking loved every minute of it and I cannot wait for more.
Yea it was pretty great.

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Mr Lasastryke
06/09/21 7:17:55 PM
#260:


Waluigi1 posted...
And the complaining begins!

i'm sorry for having opinions

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CoolCly
06/09/21 8:13:37 PM
#261:


i fell off on Falcon and the Winter Soldier - is there anything in this Loki episode that might spoil me or is it safe to watch?

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Paratroopa1
06/09/21 8:15:41 PM
#262:


CoolCly posted...
i fell off on Falcon and the Winter Soldier - is there anything in this Loki episode that might spoil me or is it safe to watch?
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Paratroopa1
06/09/21 8:16:01 PM
#263:


And Endgame I guess.
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LeonhartFour
06/09/21 10:18:06 PM
#264:


yeah the entire premise for the show is rooted in something that happens in Endgame so there's kind of a spoiler there by nature

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Paratroopa1
06/09/21 10:30:58 PM
#265:


I feel like basically every MCU thing from this point forward is going to be Infinity War/Endgame spoilers
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LeonhartFour
06/09/21 10:32:49 PM
#266:


yeah you should basically assume you need to have watched those two for everything from here on out because the repercussions of them are basically impossible to ignore for any project going forward

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Paratroopa1
06/09/21 10:38:02 PM
#267:


I wonder what will even be the first MCU thing that doesn't reference the events of IW/EG explicitly in the text

FFH, Wandavision, TFATWS, and Loki are all direct sequels to Endgame
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LeonhartFour
06/09/21 10:47:15 PM
#268:


also I'm watching this right now and my wife can't figure out why Loki isn't blue if none of his powers work and there's no magic in the TVA

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MoogleKupo141
06/09/21 10:47:55 PM
#269:


Blade probably doesnt care about the Infinity War stuff, so maybe that
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StealThisSheen
06/09/21 10:52:09 PM
#270:


LeonhartFour posted...
also I'm watching this right now and my wife can't figure out why Loki isn't blue if none of his powers work and there's no magic in the TVA

Isn't Odin the one that did something to make him not be blue? It wasn't Loki himself doing it, at the least.

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LeonhartFour
06/09/21 10:53:25 PM
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StealThisSheen
06/09/21 10:56:44 PM
#272:


We know it's not Loki/his own power because in Thor 1 he has those "WTF I'M BLUE" moments. I forget if it outright shows Odin do it or just implied he did, but I assume the answer is Odin did something permanent-ish somehow.

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Waluigi1
06/09/21 11:02:54 PM
#273:


So question: does the current MCU not have a multiverse? Because that's what I took from that little video, that there is only a single timeline/world right now but it used to be a multiverse, and I assume it will go back to a multiverse at some point in the future. A friend and I were having a discussion about it and on opposite sides. He thinks there still is a multiverse but the TVA is just watching over the one timeline we're experiencing and theoretically there is a TVA for each universe within the multiverse.

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CoolCly
06/09/21 11:09:51 PM
#274:


that was awesome

i'm going to love this show

owen wilson was great

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LeonhartFour
06/09/21 11:19:52 PM
#275:


Just finished the episode. Yeah, I'm going to love this. Totally didn't expect the dangerous Variant to be another Loki.

Tom Hiddleston is so good.

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Grand Kirby
06/09/21 11:21:22 PM
#276:


Ooh, TVA Loki is at Avenger's Campus:

https://twitter.com/thrillgeek/status/1402661177906405382

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GuessMyUserName
06/09/21 11:25:29 PM
#277:


owen wilson was great yes

Waluigi1 posted...
So question: does the current MCU not have a multiverse? Because that's what I took from that little video, that there is only a single timeline/world right now but it used to be a multiverse, and I assume it will go back to a multiverse at some point in the future. A friend and I were having a discussion about it and on opposite sides. He thinks there still is a multiverse but the TVA is just watching over the one timeline we're experiencing and theoretically there is a TVA for each universe within the multiverse.

What your friend says has certainly been my idea of it. Timelines are specific to their universes, so at least in the current main MCU universe there is one timeline being maintained and other multiverses may have their own TVA or may not.

Like Dragon Ball has Timelines and Universes as separate things, ie Universe 7 has Goku and friends in it, but Universe 7 also has the Future Trunks timeline.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/09/21 11:25:54 PM
#278:


Waluigi1 posted...
So question: does the current MCU not have a multiverse? Because that's what I took from that little video, that there is only a single timeline/world right now but it used to be a multiverse, and I assume it will go back to a multiverse at some point in the future. A friend and I were having a discussion about it and on opposite sides. He thinks there still is a multiverse but the TVA is just watching over the one timeline we're experiencing and theoretically there is a TVA for each universe within the multiverse.
I dont think it does

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IfGodCouldDie
06/09/21 11:29:30 PM
#279:


GuessMyUserName posted...
owen wilson was great yes

What your friend says has certainly been my idea of it. Timelines are specific to their universes, so at least in the current main MCU universe there is one timeline being maintained and other multiverses may have their own TVA or may not.

Like Dragon Ball has Timelines and Universes as separate things, ie Universe 7 has Goku and friends in it, but Universe 7 also has the Future Trunks timeline.
Actually looking at it like this, I suppose it is a possibility. Like when they show the one timeline getting close to critical range that could be it crossing with another universe's timeline or something similar.

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GuessMyUserName
06/09/21 11:33:39 PM
#280:


either way won't really know for sure how it works until maybe Multiverse of Madness, would be nice if Loki could clear a bit of it up before then though!

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Like when they show the one timeline getting close to critical range that could be it crossing with another universe's timeline or something similar.

yeah that's my current thinking

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Mr Lasastryke
06/10/21 3:12:32 AM
#281:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I wonder what will even be the first MCU thing that doesn't reference the events of IW/EG explicitly in the text

FFH, Wandavision, TFATWS, and Loki are all direct sequels to Endgame

black widow?

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Paratroopa1
06/10/21 3:30:45 AM
#282:


I'd wager that Black Widow will use post-Endgame as a framing device
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RPGlord95
06/10/21 5:47:26 AM
#283:


Pretty sure Loki pocketed a time stone when he was rooting around in the time office. Pretty sure that is how the villain is Loki.

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BlackDra90n
06/10/21 9:09:15 AM
#284:


Was a fun episode, I enjoyed it.

I laughed when the kid pointed at the devil in the back. The Mephisto memes are back.

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RikkuAlmighty
06/10/21 12:07:41 PM
#285:


Paratroopa1 posted...
You're totally fine, only spoilers here are for Infinity War.
Somewhere some Thor 2 fan is very offended by this snuff.

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BlackDra90n
06/10/21 2:38:48 PM
#286:


There's technically Thor Ragnarok spoilers too.

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UltimaterializerX
06/10/21 7:11:08 PM
#287:


This show is going to be soooooo good. Can't believe I thought it came out tomorrow.

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RyoCaliente
06/11/21 4:57:45 AM
#288:


I wonder if the growing focus on the Multiverse will actually impact What If...? It seems like a fun detour, but maybe they'll use that to write out Chadwick Boseman without it seeming odd, and it might open up other avenues as well.

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Waluigi1
06/11/21 12:12:41 PM
#289:


LeonhartFour posted...
Just finished the episode. Yeah, I'm going to love this. Totally didn't expect the dangerous Variant to be another Loki.
Are you for real? Lol

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Leonhart4
06/11/21 12:16:00 PM
#290:


Yeah? Sorry it wasn't as obvious to me as it clearly was to you.

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Waluigi1
06/11/21 12:18:44 PM
#291:


You mean to everyone else? Like I'm not just trying to be an asshole, but it's like... The whole concept of the show lol.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/11/21 12:19:22 PM
#292:


I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't actually Loki and Mobius is just manipulating Loki.

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Leonhart4
06/11/21 12:20:58 PM
#293:


Waluigi1 posted...
You mean to everyone else? Lol

Sure, if you say so

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GuessMyUserName
06/11/21 12:24:46 PM
#294:


I didn't know what to expect from the show which includes that end of episode reveal

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redrocket
06/11/21 12:56:19 PM
#295:


Waluigi1 posted...
You mean to everyone else? Like I'm not just trying to be an asshole, but it's like... The whole concept of the show lol.

There was nothing revealed about the main antagonist in any of the trailers or marketing material so?????

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xenosaga
06/11/21 12:57:40 PM
#296:


Waluigi1 is mephisto confirmed

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GANON1025
06/11/21 1:01:43 PM
#297:


Mobius IS Loki

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mnkboy907
06/11/21 1:07:55 PM
#298:


It seems more likely there's going to be a twist where the thing they state is the main problem in the first episode isn't actually going to be the case, especially in a series about Loki of all people.

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Leonhart4
06/11/21 1:12:36 PM
#299:


Yeah, it's very possible that this is a ruse by Mobius or the Variant is in disguise, but either way, I wasn't expecting it.

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redrocket
06/11/21 1:16:59 PM
#300:


Calling it now. The variant IS Loki and by the end of this series hes going to destroy or neuter the TVA.

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Waluigi1
06/11/21 1:58:52 PM
#301:


Well I guess it wasn't as obvious as I thought <_<

Anyway I can reveal more it's gonna be a female Loki

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LinkMarioSamus
06/11/21 2:09:03 PM
#302:


Saw the first episode with my family. Interesting idea but I found it dull beyond Tom Hiddleston's performance.

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