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Emeraldegg
11/16/20 1:34:31 PM
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Figured might as well just label it both since the start is like a month away. Things are heating up! CP3 to the suns, harden linked to the nets, draft in a couple days, it's gonna be a whirlwind of a season.
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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:35:22 PM
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Its coming fast!

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ShatteredElysium
11/16/20 3:01:09 PM
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Orlando Magic community is so crazy right now. So many want us to do something for the sake of doing it even if it fucks us over in 2-3 years time

I want us to make some moves but not anything that will hamper us. I could see 1-2 of Fournier, Gordon, Vucevic being moved but our FO is so cautious I could also see them doing nothing
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Fastbreak
11/16/20 3:11:17 PM
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Okc won that trade with Oubre and Rubio imo, especially if they're trading Shroder

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ShatteredElysium
11/16/20 3:19:53 PM
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davidponte
11/16/20 3:28:22 PM
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Stanley Johnson exercises his player option, the Raps got their guy.

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changmas
11/16/20 3:39:59 PM
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as long as charlotte doesn't trade the #3 pick i'm fine with trading for westbrook. terry rozier + bismack biyombo and you've got yourself a deal, houston

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Emeraldegg
11/16/20 5:18:04 PM
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Fastbreak posted...
Okc won that trade with Oubre and Rubio imo, especially if they're trading Shroder

I also think so

changmas posted...
as long as charlotte doesn't trade the #3 pick i'm fine with trading for westbrook. terry rozier + bismack biyombo and you've got yourself a deal, houston

I will be so butthurt if they trade #3. But yeah if we can not destroy ourselves to get westbrook I'm fine with it. I am worried about salary though, I don't want us to not be able to hang on to monk and graham down the line because of westbrook. We already got ****ed out of keeping kemba because we had friggin biyombo and batum on the books, we don't need more bad trades. I only want russ if we can still keep our young guys.
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MZero
11/16/20 7:11:20 PM
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I think the Suns trade was a win-win. With Paul, we don't need Rubio anymore and Oubre was kind of the odd man out with Bridges and Johnson coming up and playing well in the bubble. We also kept 10 so I'm really hoping Hayes drops somehow because having him sit behind Paul for a few seasons would be potentially amazing

Edit: Also remember the Suns haven't made the playoffs since 2010 and are desperate!

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ShatteredElysium
11/16/20 7:11:51 PM
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From what I heard, Nesmith is your guy at 10
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Emeraldegg
11/16/20 7:31:48 PM
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Literally anyone could go at 10.
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Emeraldegg
11/17/20 12:17:37 AM
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Bucks should be acquiring Jrue holiday from the pels in exchange for bledsoe, george hill, and THREE 1sts

It's a good time to be a rebuilding team is all I can say, so many teams throwing away so much more than they're getting back just to try and get a slight edge.
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TheRock1525
11/17/20 12:22:36 AM
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From what I understand its 3 firsts AND 2 pick swaps.

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Emeraldegg
11/17/20 12:25:16 AM
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Ah, yeah, my bad, left that part out.
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TheRock1525
11/17/20 12:35:54 AM
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That's insane for a guy who's only played 70+ games once in the past 7 years.

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ShatteredElysium
11/17/20 12:58:57 AM
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These prices are crazy and now I am no longer surprised the Magic GM said earlier in the day that they were likely to do nothing.

He's too cautious to pay these ridiculous prices and they are also open enough that they will have listened to what people were asking for. So if they knew these were the prices being said, they are now going to expect way more than what people would normally pay for like AG, Vuc and Fournier.

If Covington is worth 2 1sts and there had been rumors only last season of Covington + change for Aaron Gordon, then they are going to expect a similar level for Gordon. And I doubt anybody is giving up multiple 1sts for Aaron Gordon.
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Emeraldegg
11/17/20 1:02:27 AM
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Yeah like, if you're the bucks, I at least get it even though it's not good value at all. You're trying to do whatever you can to get better, if they have to give up 10 bucks (pun not intended) down the road for 1 dollar now, they'll do it. But the magic are not in the position where getting one of these guys vaults them into title contention. If this is how the market is going to be then the magic are absolutely right to stay out of it. That's why i'm super not a fan of the suns deal for the suns, because they gave up a ton to be...what, 5th seed? 6th? It's just not worth it.
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ScareChan
11/17/20 1:02:39 AM
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bucks lmao

good job pels

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ShatteredElysium
11/17/20 1:10:37 AM
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Well the rumors are that they made this move with the understanding that Giannis will sign the supermax because it's a stupid move to make if they don't have that commitment from him. So they are probably justifying it not as 'this much for Jrue' but rather as 'this much to keep Giannis' and in that context it makes sense.

I would have loved Jrue on the Magic and have been campaigning for it all offseason but man not at that price. I thought it would cost like maybe a solid player and a pick. Or I had trades where the Magic sent AG or Vuc plus change to the Warriors for the 2 pick and then the 2 pick for Jrue.

Actually with the moves being made, maybe a contending team now is stupid enough to give a high price for Vuc or AG or Fournier because it's now an arms race to keep up
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KCF0107
11/17/20 1:18:28 AM
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Bucks will reportedly also acquire Bogdanovic in a sign-and-trade with the Kings
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ShatteredElysium
11/17/20 1:19:06 AM
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Also Bucks getting Bogdan Bogdanovic in a sign and trade is laughable. Not because of the player but because it is openly admitting that tampering rules have been broken and yet nothing will get done about it.

Under the rules, that transaction is 100% illegal. The Bucks shouldn't be able to talk to Bogdan until FA opens which is after the draft. Like usually teams at least pretend that they followed the rules, even though nobody does, but this is something else.
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KCF0107
11/17/20 1:21:18 AM
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Bogdan + Justin James for Donte Divincenzo, Ersan Ilyasova, and DJ Wilson
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ShatteredElysium
11/17/20 1:27:00 AM
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Emeraldegg
11/17/20 1:56:46 AM
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Last I saw, ilyasova was non-guaranteed and I never saw anything about the fate of such players because of all the date shuffling they had to do. Does that mean his contract ended up becoming guaranteed at some point if they're able to trade him?
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ninkendo
11/17/20 2:46:35 AM
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Fastbreak
11/17/20 2:52:57 AM
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KCF0107 posted...
Bogdan + Justin James for Donte Divincenzo, Ersan Ilyasova, and DJ Wilson

I'm sad we are losing Bogdan, I at least am hopeful Divincenzo does something

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ShatteredElysium
11/17/20 3:18:25 PM
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ShatteredElysium posted...
If Covington is worth 2 1sts and there had been rumors only last season of Covington + change for Aaron Gordon, then they are going to expect a similar level for Gordon. And I doubt anybody is giving up multiple 1sts for Aaron Gordon.

So apparently Gordon was top of Portland's list and they offered the same package (and possibly more) for AG. Magic told them no.

I guess it makes sense given where those picks are going to be located.
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NBIceman
11/17/20 3:20:19 PM
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yo spurs trade aldridge for #2 you cowards

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RaidenGarai
11/17/20 3:37:12 PM
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Fastbreak posted...
I'm sad we are losing Bogdan, I at least am hopeful Divincenzo does something
I feel like he probably won't get much better than he is now, but I hope I'm wrong. I was disappointed to see him go, but he's the only real piece that they gave up for Bogdan.

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Fastbreak
11/17/20 3:46:54 PM
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Yeah, ilyasova is serviceable but if he is getting playing time on the roster we have something very wrong is going on

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LeonhartFour
11/17/20 3:56:42 PM
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davidponte
11/18/20 5:36:16 PM
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Danny Green traded to Philly for Horford, a 1st and a 2nd.

I don't care how much cap relief you get, trading two picks for Green is absolute insanity. It's crazy how much draft picks are devalued in the NBA when in the NFL and especially the NHL they're worth a newborn son.

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davidponte
11/18/20 5:36:43 PM
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OKC also now owns every single pick in the draft.

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Fastbreak
11/18/20 5:52:46 PM
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Guys I fucking can't anymore

That sign and trade sac did with the bucks

WE FORGOT THE SIGN PART

And Bogdan is making a fuss

Oh my lord this will never end no matter what

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Fastbreak
11/18/20 5:53:52 PM
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And you can't even LOL VLADE

This is MCNAIR

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ShatteredElysium
11/18/20 6:02:27 PM
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I mean tampering rules meant that the Bucks weren't allowed to speak to him so this could just be a facade to cover themselves
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Emeraldegg
11/18/20 6:07:11 PM
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davidponte posted...
Danny Green traded to Philly for Horford, a 1st and a 2nd.

I don't care how much cap relief you get, trading two picks for Green is absolute insanity. It's crazy how much draft picks are devalued in the NBA when in the NFL and especially the NHL they're worth a newborn son.

It's not so much that they're paying for green, it's taht they're paying to get rid of horford. It's been commonly understood that horford was such an albatross that philly would certainly have to part with assets to offload him somewhere. Given that the first is a lightly protected in 2025, I'd say the sixers got off quite easily honestly. Sixers were in such dire straits I'd have asked for TWO firsts.

As far as picks being devalued, I think part of that is because of how much of a crapshoot even outside the top 5 becomes once you hit that point. In the NFL, the gap between 2 and 5 is much smaller than it is in the NBA, where there's seemingly much less impactful talent than in the NFL. So teams are much more willing to part with them because the floor is much lower than in the NFL. In the NFL, a 20th overall pick is expected to be a relatively solid starter. In the NBA, you're lucky if such a player even cracks the rotation.
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ShatteredElysium
11/18/20 6:11:51 PM
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Yeah that's a rare trade where someone hasn't been swindled by Presti. Getting out from Horforss contract, which is amongst the worst in the league, for that cheap and getting a decent player back is far better than they could have ever hopes for
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davidponte
11/18/20 6:11:53 PM
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Oh yeah it's clear it's a cap relief thing, but I'd almost rather get nothing back than have to play Danny Green.

We've seen that first round picks are essentially worthless trade wise though, so in that sense I guess it's fine. Still just wild to see them have so little value in comparison to other leagues.

I have PTSD from Danny Green, the dude almost completely sabotaged two straight title wins lmao

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Leonhart4
11/18/20 6:14:17 PM
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2014 Danny Green ain't walking through that door

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Menji
11/18/20 6:19:22 PM
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I forgot the Lakers already traded DG, so I was like cool, Lakers got a lot, but no, it really is

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OKC also now owns every single pick in the draft.


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ShatteredElysium
11/18/20 6:22:59 PM
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Someone I know through the Magic media told me Fournier is getting traded and I'm scared to put it on Twitter because I don't have details and the Magic fan base will savage me if it doesn't happen (they hate Fournier)
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Emeraldegg
11/18/20 6:28:25 PM
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Klay apparently got hurt at practice with his leg and is undergoing testing to see the severity

Is there a way you could word it to leave the door open in case it doesn't happen, but still get credit if it does happen
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neonreaper
11/18/20 6:31:31 PM
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ShatteredElysium posted...
Someone I know through the Magic media told me Fournier is getting traded and I'm scared to put it on Twitter because I don't have details and the Magic fan base will savage me if it doesn't happen (they hate Fournier)

just post something vague like the shifty eyes

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Emeraldegg
11/18/20 8:20:13 PM
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Anthony Edwards goes #1
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ninkendo
11/18/20 8:55:43 PM
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I hope Pistons don't regret passing on Obi

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ShatteredElysium
11/18/20 9:14:48 PM
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Knicks, Spurs, Kings were the 3 I had pegged as potential Fournier landing spots so I think my source is wrong at this point
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MZero
11/18/20 9:20:08 PM
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I don't get the Bogdan thing. He's restricted right? So they can just match whatever offer he gets and then trade him anyway. What am I missing

Also Suns reaching hard again with Jalen Smith at 10

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TheRock1525
11/18/20 9:23:26 PM
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MZero posted...
I don't get the Bogdan thing. He's restricted right? So they can just match whatever offer he gets and then trade him anyway. What am I missing

Also Suns reaching hard again with Jalen Smith at 10
If you match a restricted offer then you have to wait until the deadline before they can be traded. As in the deadline for when players on new contracts can be traded.

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Emeraldegg
11/18/20 9:30:42 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...

If you match a restricted offer then you have to wait until the deadline before they can be traded. As in the deadline for when players on new contracts can be traded.

yeah iirc the deadline is 3 months or december 15th, the later of the two. That's why they tried a S&T deal to specifically bypass that but the player has to agree to a S&T.
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