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Dr_Football
11/18/20 9:41:14 PM
#51:


OKC traded Rubio, 25, and 28 to Minnesota for 17

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11/18/20 9:42:01 PM
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11/18/20 9:53:38 PM
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MZero
11/18/20 10:24:42 PM
#54:


TheRock1525 posted...
If you match a restricted offer then you have to wait until the deadline before they can be traded. As in the deadline for when players on new contracts can be traded.

Ah, thank you for explaining that!

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Leonhart4
11/19/20 10:53:44 AM
#55:


what if the Hornets drafted Lamelo solely because Jordan wants to challenge Lavar in a pickup game and embarrass him for saying he'd beat him 1 on 1

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xp1337
11/19/20 11:33:01 AM
#56:


Leonhart4 posted...
what if the Hornets drafted Lamelo solely because Jordan wants to challenge Lavar in a pickup game and embarrass him for saying he'd beat him 1 on 1
would be legendary

also would warrant a bonus episode of the last dance

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Leonhart4
11/19/20 11:42:09 AM
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how much would you pay on PPV to watch it

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Fastbreak
11/19/20 11:57:54 AM
#58:


He beats lavar and trades lamelo immediately

It was personal

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Fastbreak
11/19/20 2:47:13 PM
#59:


Klay tore his Achilles

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ShatteredElysium
11/19/20 5:16:17 PM
#60:


Athletic reporting Fournier wants out
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LeonhartFour
11/19/20 5:20:25 PM
#61:


man, gotta feel bad for Klay and now you wonder what kind of player he'll be when he does come back

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NBIceman
11/19/20 5:25:43 PM
#62:


I wouldn't mind seeing San Antonio take a look at Fournier, but maybe that's just because I want the Spurs to do literally anything.

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ShatteredElysium
11/19/20 5:30:41 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
man, gotta feel bad for Klay and now you wonder what kind of player he'll be when he does come back

He's not going to lose his shooting ability but his defense on the other hand may suffer a lot
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Fastbreak
11/19/20 5:33:41 PM
#64:


Oubre to Golden State

Arghhhh

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LeonhartFour
11/19/20 5:56:42 PM
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He may not lose his shooting ability, but he's probably not going to be as quick, so finding those open catch and shoot spots may not come as easily.

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LeonhartFour
11/19/20 9:33:21 PM
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TheRock1525
11/19/20 9:36:54 PM
#67:


LeonhartFour posted...
Gordon Hayward opting out

I have no idea why you'd turn down $34 million unless some team lost its damn mind.

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Dr_Football
11/19/20 10:23:16 PM
#68:


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329607368527712260?s=21

people are arguing over the way this is phrased

I think this is the rarely seen reverse protection in that if the Warriors are a bottom 10 team then the Thunder get the pick, otherwise we get two 2nd round picks

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Emeraldegg
11/19/20 10:43:42 PM
#69:


TheRock1525 posted...


I have no idea why you'd turn down $34 million unless some team lost its damn mind.

It's likely to sign and trade him. hawks and knicks rumored to be the frontrunners
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Emeraldegg
11/19/20 10:49:56 PM
#70:


Dr_Football posted...
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329607368527712260?s=21

people are arguing over the way this is phrased

I think this is the rarely seen reverse protection in that if the Warriors are a bottom 10 team then the Thunder get the pick, otherwise we get two 2nd round picks

I don't see it that way. The "If the warriors land in the top 20" bit makes me see it as landing in the top 20 "in standings."(given he used standings for teh 21-30 bit) IE if the warriors are a top 10 team, they send the pick.
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ShatteredElysium
11/20/20 2:13:45 PM
#71:


Why is there confusion? It's Top 10 protected.

The reason they are saying it that way is because the playoffs are expanded this season.
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Dr_Football
11/20/20 2:40:34 PM
#72:


Its confusing because weve given three separate answers so far.

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ShatteredElysium
11/20/20 3:01:14 PM
#73:


Actually I stand corrected so you're right I am being a jerk about it.

It's Top 20 protected like Emerald said.
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Corrik7
11/20/20 3:08:03 PM
#74:


Emeraldegg posted...
I don't see it that way. The "If the warriors land in the top 20" bit makes me see it as landing in the top 20 "in standings."(given he used standings for teh 21-30 bit) IE if the warriors are a top 10 team, they send the pick.
I think it's a common protection. The pick is top 20 protected. If Warriors draft 1-20, they send two second round picks. If they draft 21-30th, they send the 1st round pick.

The tweet is messed up though so I see the confusion.

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Emeraldegg
11/20/20 3:41:55 PM
#75:


they def should've just said "top x protected" as is standard so I def get why there is confusion.
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TheRock1525
11/20/20 7:41:47 PM
#76:


So in the past two days, the Pistons drafted a center, traded for two centers, and have now signed two centers.

Fucking... what?

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Emeraldegg
11/20/20 7:47:10 PM
#77:


and somehow, none of them are wood as of yet, dumb
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TheRock1525
11/20/20 7:49:35 PM
#78:


Emeraldegg posted...
and somehow, none of them are wood as of yet, dumb
Wood is unrestricted and wants to win. I doubt he wants to stick around Detroit and the Pistons couldn't over much over the MLE since they took all their capspace and used it on taking back bad contracts for picks.

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Emeraldegg
11/20/20 7:51:24 PM
#79:


Did they not have any form of bird rights to sign wood with? And even with the bad contracts, they could have used the money they're signing these worthless bigs to and put it towards wood instead.
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TheRock1525
11/20/20 8:09:38 PM
#80:


They have early bird rights which would be either 150% of his previous salary or the MLE. If they go over a starting salary of roughly $9.5 million then it counts towards available capspace, which they had not much over $9 million. They had/have the option of possibly stretching Dedmon to clear up more room, but otherwise they took on a lot of salary before free agency.

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TheRock1525
11/20/20 8:13:17 PM
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To clear it up: if it's a MLE or less contract, none of it would count towards their capspace. So they could sign him starting at $9.5 million and still use their cap on something else.

But if it's more than that amount, then they're no longer using their MLE and instead are using strictly capspace. Which if they waived Dedmon they could have closer to $15 million free towards a deal for Wood.

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MZero
11/20/20 8:17:32 PM
#82:


TheRock1525 posted...
So in the past two days, the Pistons drafted a center, traded for two centers, and have now signed two centers.

Fucking... what?

the ultimate tanking strategy, a five center line-up

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Emeraldegg
11/20/20 8:21:39 PM
#83:


Pistons apparently signing josh jackson now too

TheRock1525 posted...
To clear it up: if it's a MLE or less contract, none of it would count towards their capspace. So they could sign him starting at $9.5 million and still use their cap on something else.

But if it's more than that amount, then they're no longer using their MLE and instead are using strictly capspace. Which if they waived Dedmon they could have closer to $15 million free towards a deal for Wood.

Doesn't the order in which they do things matter? I thought a team couldn't use an exception ifthey had cap space available. IE I thought it wasn't so much "MLE's don't affect cap space" as much as "you can use them when your'e over the cap anyway"
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TheRock1525
11/20/20 8:45:53 PM
#84:


They can use the MLE as part of his early bird rights. They can't use the MLE on anyone else since they have capspace. If they want to pay him more than the MLE, then they have to use strictly their capspace.

And keep in mind these are all just agreements. Teams usually finalize the actual deals in the best order to maximize space. 4 years ago Drummond waited to sign his extension until Detroit signed all their free agents since they could go over the cap to keep him, even though they had already agreed to the supermax.

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Emeraldegg
11/20/20 9:00:06 PM
#85:


Wood allegedly to the rockets for 2M more than plumlee
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transience
11/20/20 10:06:37 PM
#86:


just swinging by to lol at the Pistons who are somehow doubling down on every type of team simultaneously

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TheRock1525
11/20/20 10:07:55 PM
#87:


the Detroit Pistons are chaos incarnate this offseason and I'm completely here for it.

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transience
11/20/20 10:08:40 PM
#88:


I can't tell if they're setting up for some kind of crazy 5 player trade or if they're signing a g league team with nba money

they have like 19 guys

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TheRock1525
11/20/20 10:42:32 PM
#89:


It appears that the two contracts they signed jerami Grant and Mason Plumlee to might be used in a sign-and-trade for Blake Griffin.

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Emeraldegg
11/20/20 10:44:16 PM
#90:


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329986312720551945
There it is
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MZero
11/21/20 12:09:57 AM
#91:


Montrezl Harrell signs with the Lakers

huh

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ScareChan
11/21/20 12:52:57 AM
#92:


MZero posted...
Montrezl Harrell signs with the Lakers

huh

klutch

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Dr_Football
11/21/20 1:38:32 AM
#93:


traded Adams to the Pelicans
also other stuff happened

i have officially given up on trying to figure out who is on the Thunder

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ninkendo
11/21/20 2:09:40 AM
#94:


my pistonz doing well to give us the best chances to get the #1 pick

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TheRock1525
11/21/20 2:16:30 AM
#95:


ninkendo posted...
my pistonz doing well to give us the best chances to get the #1 pick
Nah, they're actually ensuring we get the #10 pick.

If we wanted #1 we should have literally done nothing.

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MZero
11/21/20 2:17:58 AM
#96:


how many times will Trevor Ariza be traded this off-season

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TheRock1525
11/21/20 3:33:08 AM
#97:


So less than 12 hours into free agency, the Pistons acquired Jerami Grant, Jahlil Okafor, Josh Jackson, Mason Plumlee, and Delon Wright. This was only a couple days after heading into the NBA draft with one pick and somehow making 4 selections (three first round) in the end.

Troy Weaver is fucking insane.

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MZero
11/21/20 4:12:34 AM
#98:


And Dewayne Dedmon!

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TheRock1525
11/21/20 4:16:47 AM
#99:


MZero posted...
And Dewayne Dedmon!

Dedmon is already gone along with McGruber (both stretched) and Ariza (traded). They also acquired Tony Bradley in a draft day trade.

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KCF0107
11/21/20 4:19:09 AM
#100:


Oh wow, we somehow got rid of both Wright and Jackson without taking any 21-22 salary or giving up any draft picks.
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