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TheRock1525
10/22/20 6:08:49 PM
#101:


I will say that this Tony Bobulinski stuff actually doesn't look that great for Biden, mostly because he at least has more credibility than Giuliani and apparently has documentation of all this stuff that he turned over to the Senate.

However, I do have to laugh when he says "I don't have a political ax to grind" then agrees to be Trump's guest at the debate.

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Suprak the Stud
10/22/20 6:13:19 PM
#102:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/ABC7Chicago/status/1319252164892631042

Trump must be getting desperate if he's trying to bring Zuul to the debate.

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LordoftheMorons
10/22/20 6:14:49 PM
#103:


TheRock1525 posted...
I will say that this Tony Bobulinski stuff actually doesn't look that great for Biden, mostly because he at least has more credibility than Giuliani and apparently has documentation of all this stuff that he turned over to the Senate.

However, I do have to laugh when he says "I don't have a political ax to grind" then agrees to be Trump's guest at the debate.
Eh even if some of the emails are real (which I think is likely; I still think the most likely scenario is that Hunter was hacked and the materials were placed on a laptop and laundered through the repair guy and Rudy) they dont even say anything damning. The central claim of Trumps is that Joe got Shokin fired because he was investigating Burisma, and thats been provably false since the very beginning.

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TheRock1525
10/22/20 6:16:53 PM
#104:


Tony's claims are actually independent of the emails "found" on the laptop. He's saying that there were other texts and emails that have a more direct link to Joe's possible involvement and that these documents are now being reviewed by Senate committees.

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LordoftheMorons
10/22/20 6:20:47 PM
#105:


TheRock1525 posted...
Tony's claims are actually independent of the emails "found" on the laptop. He's saying that there were other texts and emails that have a more direct link to Joe's possible involvement and that these documents are now being reviewed by Senate committees.
I guess well see, but at the end of the day I cant see a story of Hunter playing up his value to a company because of his famous dad being something that sways many voters. You could probably find dozens of such stories about the Trump kids.

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red sox 777
10/22/20 6:20:52 PM
#106:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Eh even if some of the emails are real (which I think is likely; I still think the most likely scenario is that Hunter was hacked and the materials were placed on a laptop and laundered through the repair guy and Rudy) they dont even say anything damning. The central claim of Trumps is that Joe got Shokin fired because he was investigating Burisma, and thats been provably false since the very beginning.

Provably false how? He was investigating Burisma. Joe got him fired. So what's false? If you are talking about the internal motivations of Joe Biden - no one knows what he was thinking besides Joe himself.

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red sox 777
10/22/20 6:22:04 PM
#107:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I guess well see, but at the end of the day I cant see a story of Hunter playing up his value to a company because of his famous dad being something that sways many voters. You could probably find dozens of such stories about the Trump kids.

I have to bring up this quote again. It just fits very well (and is from the other Uncle Joe).

"The death of one person is a tragedy. The deaths of millions is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin

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Inviso
10/22/20 6:23:10 PM
#108:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I guess well see, but at the end of the day I cant see a story of Hunter playing up his value to a company because of his famous dad being something that sways many voters. You could probably find dozens of such stories about the Trump kids.

Democrats are held to an extremely high standard compared to Republicans, though.

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LordoftheMorons
10/22/20 6:27:27 PM
#109:


red sox 777 posted...
Provably false how? He was investigating Burisma. Joe got him fired. So what's false? If you are talking about the internal motivations of Joe Biden - no one knows what he was thinking besides Joe himself.
The Burisma investigation had been shelved for like a year prior to Shokin being fired. The consensus of both parties in the US and our international allies was that Shokin was a huge impediment to Ukraines reform (because he was refusing to prosecute corruption). Joe had the backing of the Obama administration. This wasnt a decision that Joe was making in isolation.

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LordoftheMorons
10/22/20 6:32:11 PM
#110:


https://twitter.com/arictoler/status/1319402069346889729?s=21

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Ashethan
10/22/20 6:35:27 PM
#111:


Corrik7 posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/us-trump-administration-signs-anti-abortion-declaration

The US continues to try to move backwards in terms of LGBT Rights, Women's rights, and Civil Rights.

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Dancedreamer
10/22/20 6:44:18 PM
#112:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I guess well see, but at the end of the day I cant see a story of Hunter playing up his value to a company because of his famous dad being something that sways many voters. You could probably find dozens of such stories about the Trump kids.

I don't think it'll get much value because 215k and counting have died from COVID. If it weren't for Covid, I think Biden would lose the election.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/22/20 6:54:37 PM
#113:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Also I think my name was brought up, I am fine with Corrik because he is a product of what he has consumed and is pretty much just good faith discussing things. He's terribly wrong but I have plenty of more time for Corrik than I do most people just because he is earnest.

so it's fine to spout the most disgusting bullshit imaginable as long as you're honest about it?

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ChaosTonyV4
10/22/20 6:55:20 PM
#114:


Corrik7 posted...
Sorry to tell ya bud African is an adjective above. And, as shown before, illegal as a noun is in the dictionary. Specifically referring to illegal immigrants.

O.o

Good thing I intentionally literally used the words African-American and American than!

See you can get it! So instead of going for a gotcha just understand it


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colliding
10/22/20 6:59:31 PM
#115:


Did McConnell Miller lose his hand and get it surgically replaced with his evil clone's? And occasionally it takes over his body and makes him do things?


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Corrik7
10/22/20 7:01:53 PM
#116:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
so it's fine to spout the most disgusting bullshit imaginable as long as you're honest about it?
Bro, shouldn't you be whining perfectchaos didn't get warned for insulting me like you did instead of this nonsense?

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colliding
10/22/20 7:04:14 PM
#117:


Corrik, do you really not understand the difference between "African-American" and "illegal immigrant" to how they can be applied to people? Serious question.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 7:09:11 PM
#118:


colliding posted...
Corrik, do you really not understand the difference between "African-American" and "illegal immigrant" to how they can be applied to people? Serious question.
Apparently not. Both can be applied correctly or incorrectly.

Again. Read the all-sides on it. Understand our differences in position and realize they are not going to change. I at no point did anything maliciously and have already said while I disagree I can say illegal immigrants instead of illegals if it makes you feel more comfortable. You can choose to harp over it or not. That's your own choice. I am telling you flat out, my position will not change here.

A woman illegally crossing with her children to provide them a better life is still an illegal immigrant just as a man stealing money from someone to try and feed his children is a criminal.

Do I empathize for them and wish they weren't in those situations, yes. It doesn't change it is against the law and those terms are applied to those who break those laws.

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red sox 777
10/22/20 7:12:26 PM
#119:


LordoftheMorons posted...
The Burisma investigation had been shelved for like a year prior to Shokin being fired. The consensus of both parties in the US and our international allies was that Shokin was a huge impediment to Ukraines reform (because he was refusing to prosecute corruption). Joe had the backing of the Obama administration. This wasnt a decision that Joe was making in isolation.

  1. Joe was the VP. He was pivotal in setting the policy of the Obama administration. It's not like Obama was handling this personally and near the end brought Joe in to take care of it because he wanted to play golf.
  2. That Shokin was not prosecuting other corrupt companies does not mean that Burisma is innocent. Maybe he only prosecuted the corrupt companies that didn't pay him.
  3. A shelved investigation can be restarted.
  4. A consensus of unnamed people, without any indication of what evidence they relied on in forming their conclusions, is not evidence.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/22/20 7:13:13 PM
#120:


Corrik7 posted...
Bro, shouldn't you be whining perfectchaos didn't get warned for insulting me like you did instead of this nonsense?

yeah, it's pretty stupid how like 80 people insulted you and only i got modded for it (and pointing this out is not "whining" in the slightest).

at this point i'll just accept that i get more harshly targeted than other people, though. not much else i can do.

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ChaosTonyV4
10/22/20 7:18:56 PM
#122:


Common sense says you get modded more harshly with existing moderations <_<

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colliding
10/22/20 7:19:11 PM
#123:


Corrik7 posted...
Apparently not. Both can be applied correctly or incorrectly.

Again. Read the all-sides on it. Understand our differences in position and realize they are not going to change. I at no point did anything maliciously and have already said while I disagree I can say illegal immigrants instead of illegals if it makes you feel more comfortable. You can choose to harp over it or not. That's your own choice. I am telling you flat out, my position will not change here.

A woman illegally crossing with her children to provide them a better life is still an illegal immigrant just as a man stealing money from someone to try and feed his children is a criminal.

Do I empathize for them and wish they weren't in those situations, yes. It doesn't change it is against the law and those terms are applied to those who break those laws.

That's all fine, but your analogy as to why "illegal immigrant" is okay because "African-American" is okay makes no sense. I'm just letting you know.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 7:19:38 PM
#124:


https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1319405145764003847

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Mr Lasastryke
10/22/20 7:23:30 PM
#125:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Common sense says you get modded more harshly with existing moderations <_<

i had no existing moderations prior to getting modded for my corrik insult.

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red sox 777
10/22/20 7:25:38 PM
#126:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i had no existing moderations prior to getting modded for my corrik insult.

Yeah, but you've had them fairly recently. Agree that the system isn't that fair though. There are a lot of users that regularly insult other people with no consequences.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 7:26:27 PM
#127:


red sox 777 posted...
Yeah, but you've had them fairly recently. Agree that the system isn't that fair though. There are a lot of users that regularly insult other people with no consequences.
Once they fall off, they aren't supposed to be held against you. It's supposed to be one of the benefits of accepting moderations as they fall off earlier.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 7:28:46 PM
#128:


https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1319391106036006914

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Mr Lasastryke
10/22/20 7:29:29 PM
#129:


Corrik7 posted...
Once they fall off, they aren't supposed to be held against you. It's supposed to be one of the benefits of accepting moderations as they fall off earlier.

wow corrik posted something that's 100% correct for once.

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htaeD
10/22/20 7:34:52 PM
#130:


Suprak the Stud posted...


Trump must be getting desperate if he's trying to bring Zuul to the debate.


People will see this as a sign from god to vote for Trump
Maybe
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ChaosTonyV4
10/22/20 7:37:56 PM
#131:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i had no existing moderations prior to getting modded for my corrik insult.

It is what it is, I suppose.

I hadnt been modded in literally 5+ years before I got suspended for a post with the words wow, 18 days ago and a picture of RBG massless at a wedding, so lets not argue about moderation harshness exclusivity lol

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Ashethan
10/22/20 7:38:51 PM
#132:


htaeD posted...
People will see this as a sign from god to vote for Trump

We don't need to worry about that. Biden is going to kill God.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/22/20 7:40:11 PM
#133:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I hadnt been modded in literally 5+ years before I got suspended for a post with the words wow, 18 days ago and a picture of RBG massless at a wedding, so lets not argue about moderation harshness exclusivity lol

i never said i'm the ONLY person to get unfairly targeted! >_>

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Seanchan
10/22/20 7:40:57 PM
#134:


So who's going to disappointment me worse tonight, the Giants or Biden?

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TheRock1525
10/22/20 7:48:16 PM
#135:


Seanchan posted...
So who's going to disappointment me worse tonight, the Giants or Biden?

Always the Giants.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 7:52:54 PM
#136:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
It is what it is, I suppose.

I hadnt been modded in literally 5+ years before I got suspended for a post with the words wow, 18 days ago and a picture of RBG massless at a wedding, so lets not argue about moderation harshness exclusivity lol
At least you didn't get modded for "simpleton argument"

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Suprak the Stud
10/22/20 7:54:23 PM
#137:


Seanchan posted...
So who's going to disappointment me worse tonight, the Giants or Biden?

whynotboth.gif

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Lightning Strikes
10/22/20 8:00:16 PM
#138:


Were people too busy arguing with/about Corrik or did anybody mention Poland? Because that is disgraceful.

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Seanchan
10/22/20 8:04:42 PM
#139:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Were people too busy arguing with/about Corrik or did anybody mention Poland? Because that is disgraceful.

What did they do? Let me guess that got halfway to it, then got cold feet and turn back around again?

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TheRock1525
10/22/20 8:07:45 PM
#140:


Seanchan posted...
What did they do? Let me guess that got halfway to it, then got cold feet and turn back around again?

Essentially banned all abortions.

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LordoftheMorons
10/22/20 8:16:44 PM
#141:


Remember how John Solomon wrote all of the initial pieces about the Ukraine scandal implicating Biden as opinion pieces in The Hill to get around editorial scrutiny, and then it turned out he was basically just laundering Rudys scheme? Well,

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1319427644413411330?s=21

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Corrik7
10/22/20 8:21:17 PM
#142:


I wonder if that Minnesota Senate seat is closing as rapidly as the polls are.

+10 to +8 to +4 to + 1

Over the past month.

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Suprak the Stud
10/22/20 8:55:50 PM
#143:


Are you ready for some secondhand embarrassment? I know I am!

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LordoftheMorons
10/22/20 9:16:15 PM
#144:


I take full responsibility. Its Chinas fault.

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Inviso
10/22/20 9:21:03 PM
#145:


Trump is winning the debate thus far. He's staying calm and even though he's lying about everything, he comes across better for lying about his own accomplishments than Biden is for doing nothing but attack Trump's failures.

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LordoftheMorons
10/22/20 9:21:28 PM
#146:


On substance Trump doing terribly but his delivery is way better than last time, which unfortunately might be what matters.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 9:22:26 PM
#147:


Biden looks like he is halfway dead. No joke.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 9:23:22 PM
#148:


Biden just said they aren't red states or blue states but look where all the spikes are. Red states. Lol.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/22/20 9:23:47 PM
#149:


i'm not watching but i refuse to believe trump is winning any debate.

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Grimlyn
10/22/20 9:24:01 PM
#150:


I mean it just goes to show how terribly out of control he was last time

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Suprak the Stud
10/22/20 9:24:31 PM
#151:


Trump letting Biden talk more is a better strategy because it is Joe Biden out there.

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