Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 331: Borat to the Brain

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Hbthebattle
10/22/20 12:46:51 PM
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UshiromiyaEva
10/22/20 12:54:36 PM
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Can we try to keep this topic readable please?

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Mr Lasastryke
10/22/20 12:56:04 PM
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Because they don't agree with it? Lol.

wtf kind of a response is this?

you said "open borders is an unpopular concept for a reason," as if it's very obvious why open borders are bad. then i ask "ok what's the reason then?" and your response is this "BECAUSE THEY DISLIKE IT LOL" circular logic bullshit?

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masterplum
10/22/20 12:58:57 PM
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Just popping in to say lol Giuliani

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Jakyl25
10/22/20 12:59:54 PM
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JUST A TUCK

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Jakyl25
10/22/20 1:02:34 PM
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Corrik said...
So we are clear. You agree with when you say Republicans are evil, racists, and a death cult that you are dehumanizing free thinking Americans? That you understand it is derogatory and contemptuous yes?


Yes, I would hope we would all agree with most of this

I dont know about the free thinking part though. Theres no such thing as a free thinker, by the definition most people claim. Were all influenced by what information we consume, by chance or by choice, and we cant consume it all.
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Not_an_Owl
10/22/20 1:03:20 PM
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holy shit why are ya'll still arguing with corrik

you're never going to convince him to have any sort of empathy or not be a terrible person

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Inviso
10/22/20 1:04:50 PM
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Jesus Christ last night. Holy shit. What the FUCK, Corrik?

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GuessMyUserName
10/22/20 1:05:00 PM
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corrik literally debunked himself pages ago and somehow this is still going

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UshiromiyaEva
10/22/20 1:05:20 PM
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Why can I see that Corrik quote.

Anyways, the third degree murder charge got dropped from Chauvin. Second degree murder and manslaughter charges are still on the table, though.

I have no doubt there will be plenty of headlines that forgo that second part though.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 1:05:40 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
wtf kind of a response is this?

you said "open borders is an unpopular concept for a reason," as if it's very obvious why open borders are bad. then i ask "ok what's the reason then?" and your response is this "BECAUSE THEY DISLIKE IT LOL" circular logic bullshit?
Because Open Borders isn't feasible without an all encompassing government, which is not happening any time in the near future. Me and Jakyl already had this discussion before.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/22/20 1:06:04 PM
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Not_an_Owl posted...
holy shit why are ya'll still arguing with corrik

you're never going to convince him to have any sort of empathy or not be a terrible person

Because they're all masochists.

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Jakyl25
10/22/20 1:06:31 PM
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Not_an_Owl posted...
holy shit why are ya'll still arguing with corrik

you're never going to convince him to have any sort of empathy or not be a terrible person


Because someone is WRONG on the INTERNET
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But really its because for as much as he frustrates me I enjoy talking to him because hes being honest. Much better than a SephG or an Ulti
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Jakyl25
10/22/20 1:07:18 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Why can I see that Corrik quote.


Because its from the last topic so I had to create the format DIY style
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GuessMyUserName
10/22/20 1:07:25 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Why can I see that Corrik quote.
I think it's from the previous topic, thus can't be linked to the actual post like normal

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DoomTheGyarados
10/22/20 1:09:07 PM
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Also I think my name was brought up, I am fine with Corrik because he is a product of what he has consumed and is pretty much just good faith discussing things. He's terribly wrong but I have plenty of more time for Corrik than I do most people just because he is earnest.


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Jakyl25
10/22/20 1:12:24 PM
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Corrik said...
Why do you like the color you like?

Because you like it?

Why not a different color?

Because you like your preferred color better?

Lmfao.


I think this perfectly encapsulates why Corrik is so frustrating to most of us. He refuses to dig deeper on ideas when its much easier to roll with his mythical common sense.

Theres a reason we have favorite colors, and its not arbitrary like you might casually believe. Theres something good your mind associates the color with, and self-reflection might help you find it if you really care to know.

For example, my favorite color is sky blue. I never put it together until my 30s that the reason for that is because it was the color of my childhood bedroom, the single place on earth I feel most secure and comfortable.
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PerfectChaosZ
10/22/20 1:14:39 PM
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Corrik is dogshit.
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UshiromiyaEva
10/22/20 1:15:13 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
as much as he frustrates me I enjoy talking to him


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Because they're all masochists.


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Corrik7
10/22/20 1:17:04 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
I think this perfectly encapsulates why Corrik is so frustrating to most of us. He refuses to dig deeper on ideas when its much easier to roll with his mythical common sense.

Theres a reason we have favorite colors, and its not arbitrary like you might casually believe. Theres something good your mind associates the color with, and self-reflection might help you find it if you really care to know.

For example, my favorite color is sky blue. I never put it together until my 30s that the reason for that is because it was the color of my childhood bedroom, the single place on earth I feel most secure and comfortable.
Do you think it isn't because something in your brain simply attracts to that color more? I mean, I dunno. Possibly. It's a nature vs nurture question I suppose. I just question if you think it's not possible it is nature based.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 1:19:19 PM
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Also, not sure if it got lost in the nonsense but Rubio is for a brokered deal between the house and white house. That's 1 republican senator and the article kind of implied there is definitely more of them. That's good to hear.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 1:21:19 PM
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Also, Trump posted his 60 minutes interview scheduled for this Sunday early because he said it proves how biased the person was.

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=350524406214941&_rdr

Sure it is gonna be a shit show lol.

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Jakyl25
10/22/20 1:22:19 PM
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Corrik7 posted...

Do you think it isn't because something in your brain simply attracts to that color more? I mean, I dunno. Possibly. It's a nature vs nurture question I suppose. I just question if you think it's not possible it is nature based.


I am very much on the side of everything we do outside of basic survival urges is nurture based.
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xp1337
10/22/20 1:28:30 PM
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So, I hear you guys were talking about immigration, asylum, and LAW AND ORDER...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/22/us-ice-officers-allegedly-used-torture-to-make-africans-sign-own-deportation-orders

Cameroonian asylum seekers fleeing widespread civilian killings by their government were allegedly threatened, choked, beaten, and pepper-sprayed by ICE to extract signatures on their deportation orders - or failing that, to just forcibly get their fingerprints as a substitute. There's details and accounts from victims in the article but fair warning they're pretty brutal to read.

ICE's response: "ICE is firmly committed to the safety and welfare of all those in its custody. ICE provides safe, humane, and appropriate conditions of confinement for individuals detained in its custody."

Abolish ICE.

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Peace___Frog
10/22/20 1:31:31 PM
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ICE was a massive mistake, it needs to go even more than police departments do. At least the police can pretend to have a purpose in modern society.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 1:35:24 PM
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Jesus christ I am 11 minutes into this 60 minutes thing, and it's so much repeating repeating repeating. Then he says they didn't have to deal with a pandemic. Then brings up h1n1 and how bad they did. Like lol. geez

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KamikazePotato
10/22/20 1:38:02 PM
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ICE is just US-flavored Gestapo

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Seanchan
10/22/20 1:52:47 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
Also, Trump posted his 60 minutes interview scheduled for this Sunday early because he said it proves how biased the person was.

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=350524406214941&_rdr

Sure it is gonna be a shit show lol.

58 seconds in:
"And when I finish, this country will be in a position like it hasn't been maybe ever."

I don't have the stomach to watch the rest but that sums up the Trump presidency pretty consciously.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 2:06:36 PM
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Seanchan posted...
58 seconds in:
"And when I finish, this country will be in a position like it hasn't been maybe ever."

I don't have the stomach to watch the rest but that sums up the Trump presidency pretty consciously.
I mean, she was asking pretty pointed questions, but he makes them worse a lot on his own. It's just he repeats so much, and he also contradicts himself sometimes in back to back sentences.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 2:08:30 PM
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-minneapolis-george-floyd-charges-20201022-7vppakro25fztor4vg3js7scdy-story.html

Weird they dropped the 3rd degree and not the 2nd. I am guessing they didn't think they could have him charged with both at the same time. But, 2nd degree I think is going to be harder to make a case on. I forget the state differences on the degrees there though.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 2:10:45 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/biden-supreme-court/index.html

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Kenri
10/22/20 2:20:38 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
hes being honest.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
pretty much just good faith discussing things.
legitimate question, are these statements jokes

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xp1337
10/22/20 2:21:03 PM
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1319307548067917824

In Trump's post of the 60 Minutes interview he says he hopes SCOTUS ends the ACA: "I hope that they end it. It'll be so good if they end it."

those who understand strategy are sitting in awe right now

Releasing this yourself on the day of the debate lmfao.

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DoomTheGyarados
10/22/20 2:22:46 PM
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Kenri posted...
legitimate question, are these statements jokes

No, I probably know Corrik better than any of you, he isn't a bad faith actor. This is the product of America's education system in some parts of the country <_<

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Seanchan
10/22/20 2:27:37 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/biden-supreme-court/index.html

I like that answer and idea quite a bit.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/barack-obama-donald-trump-speech-philadelphia/index.html

I agree so badly with this. Just the other day I was talking to family about how I just wanted to stop waking up in the morning worried about what stupid nonsense Trump had said the night before and go back to politics being a "background" issue again.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-business-partner-email-genuine-joe-biden-advice

I don't know what to think of this but I couldn't find any mention of it on CNN at all.

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Jakyl25
10/22/20 2:49:45 PM
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Kenri posted...


legitimate question, are these statements jokes


Not a joke

If you think Corrik is just a troll acting then I understand your frustration

But hes not
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Jakyl25
10/22/20 2:50:54 PM
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xp1337 posted...
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1319307548067917824

In Trump's post of the 60 Minutes interview he says he hopes SCOTUS ends the ACA: "I hope that they end it. It'll be so good if they end it."

those who understand strategy are sitting in awe right now

Releasing this yourself on the day of the debate lmfao.


I dont get it. Hasnt he said this before? Why is this a bombshell?
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xp1337
10/22/20 2:53:22 PM
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I'm not sure he's said it that bluntly before nor in such a ready-for-campaign-ad form. It also short-circuits the news cycle on the day of a debate.

Like to anyone plugged in even a bit to politics it's a "no kidding, we've known this since the beginning" but to have it in such an impossible to misunderstand format is just lol.

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KamikazePotato
10/22/20 2:55:23 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/22/trump-twitter-hacked-dutch-researcher-password

I want this to be true so badly

According to the guy's claim, Trump's twitter password was maga2020

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red sox 777
10/22/20 2:56:31 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
I dont get it. Hasnt he said this before? Why is this a bombshell?

He better want to end the ACA. That's what he campaigned on in 2016 and that's what he promised. Repeal and replace, he said. And he's right - it's obscenely expensive, not useful healthcare. We've partially repealed it - and now we need to replace it.

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/22/20 2:59:47 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Not a joke

If you think Corrik is just a troll acting then I understand your frustration

But hes not

I think this is why people can't stand the arguments.

Corrik's style of debate is identical to bad faith arguments, but they're his real and honest positions. The effect is also identical to a bad faith argument, since you can probably count on one hand the amount of times someone changes their mind from one in a year.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 3:09:27 PM
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How many peoples arguing in here is...

Omg a factual label about status is derogatory and contemptuous because it groups people together as others.

Then go ACAB ACAB ACAB!

Like, some of you need to be more self-aware.

Some of you think if someone doesn't agree with you or if you can't convince them of something that it is omg they are scum of the earth or troll or bad faith actor!

That's simply not how things work. It is actually being full of yourself. Chris can usually admit he falls into that fallacy at times. If you don't agree with him, you are just wrong in his mind a lot. Some of you are so unaware though it's kinda funny.

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Inviso
10/22/20 3:18:17 PM
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I mean, there's a difference between calling an organization that promotes unchecked murder and brutality "bastards" and calling a very specific group of people committing misdemeanors "illegals". If you want to call EVERY person who breaks the law (yourself included) an illegal, then that's fine. But when you're using the term to refer to a specific race and ethnicity, that's fucking racist, whether you want to admit it or not.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 3:28:19 PM
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Inviso posted...
I mean, there's a difference between calling an organization that promotes unchecked murder and brutality "bastards" and calling a very specific group of people committing misdemeanors "illegals". If you want to call EVERY person who breaks the law (yourself included) an illegal, then that's fine. But when you're using the term to refer to a specific race and ethnicity, that's fucking racist, whether you want to admit it or not.
No there isn't a difference. Look at the words you are using. That's how you poise it to justify it.

And, nobody labeled a specific race or ethnicity here. Nice try at moving the narrative.

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Inviso
10/22/20 3:29:43 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
No there isn't a difference. Look at the words you are using. That's how you poise it to justify it.

And, nobody labeled a specific race or ethnicity here. Nice try at moving the narrative.

And nothing on the website you posted said anything about harassing people for their support of Donald Trump. Yet somehow you were able to discern a hidden purpose to it nonetheless.

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/22/20 3:31:01 PM
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Yeah, see, the hyper-focus on hypocrisy, dictionary definitions, and letter of the law while simultaneously being unwilling to entertain context or nuance...that's all hallmarks of bad faith arguments. No one gives a shit about them.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 3:32:54 PM
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Inviso posted...
And nothing on the website you posted said anything about harassing people for their support of Donald Trump. Yet somehow you were able to discern a hidden purpose to it nonetheless.
That's true. Nothing said about harassing people on it.

Let me limit the database of donations to just certain people and then state these are the people donating to a racist (opinion) seems quite nefarious to say the least.

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Corrik7
10/22/20 3:34:35 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Yeah, see, the hyper-focus on hypocrisy, dictionary definitions, and letter of the law while simultaneously being unwilling to entertain context or nuance...that's all hallmarks of bad faith arguments. No one gives a shit about them.
I'm not the one who regularly posts twitter accounts with hot takes of snipped conversations and speeches here. If you wanna argue about context, you gotta find the right culprits for those ones!

They are out there.

*Xfiles cue*

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Inviso
10/22/20 3:37:56 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
That's true. Nothing said about harassing people on it.

Let me limit the database of donations to just certain people and then state these are the people donating to a racist (opinion) seems quite nefarious to say the least.

So you can understand why using a term "illegal" to refer to a human being who is more than likely of Latin American descent is similarly nefarious, right?

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Corrik7
10/22/20 3:42:41 PM
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Inviso posted...
So you can understand why using a term "illegal" to refer to a human being who is more than likely of Latin American descent is similarly nefarious, right?
And I was able to easily clarify I am talking about any illegal immigrant and that if you are inferring that otherwise then it is on you for assuming that's. I am talking about a status within America that any immigrant of ethnicity or nationally can have for being in America illegally.

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