Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 331: Borat to the Brain

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TheRock1525 posted...

Glad to see someone come to Rudy's poor defense:

https://twitter.com/BoratSagdiyev/status/1319431436550561792

I actually just finished watching the movie...!

Rudy is definitely fondling his junk and not tucking in his shirt or whatever

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This is so incredibly fucked (and, I would imagine, is unconstitutional? These protections should be coming from Congress, so Trump shouldnt be able to take them away):

https://twitter.com/tcwittes/status/1319342968566915074?s=21

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LordoftheMorons posted...

This is so incredibly fucked (and, I would imagine, is unconstitutional? These protections should be coming from Congress, so Trump shouldnt be able to take them away):

https://twitter.com/tcwittes/status/1319342968566915074?s=21

Interesting

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LordoftheMorons posted...

This is so incredibly fucked (and, I would imagine, is unconstitutional? These protections should be coming from Congress, so Trump shouldnt be able to take them away):

https://twitter.com/tcwittes/status/1319342968566915074?s=21

Been saying it but stuff like this is why a full investigation of how Trump has damaged federal agencies is necessary. Optics be damned.

Most people just aren't paying attention to this kind of thing. It will be far too easy for future presidents to let this stuff slide.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/aabramson/status/1319650608916344832

As someone who is close to the ground in PA. Republicans in PA are all about voting day of. So these numbers don't mean much. It does mean a million dem votes are in the bag though. What I question is why the others votes is so low. Is it because they share Republicans beliefs or no? Data I can't discern an answer to.

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Texas numbers

https://mobile.twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1319654267494539265


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Corrik7 posted...

Texas numbers

https://mobile.twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1319654267494539265

Whoa. Do you know if there's an explanation for this? It seems to contradict what the polls are saying about Democrats being more likely to vote by mail.

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Corrik7 posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/aabramson/status/1319650608916344832

As someone who is close to the ground in PA. Republicans in PA are all about voting day of. So these numbers don't mean much. It does mean a million dem votes are in the bag though. What I question is why the others votes is so low. Is it because they share Republicans beliefs or no? Data I can't discern an answer to.

My guess is voters who haven't registered with a party are generally not the most enthusiastic partisans. They're the most likely to want to wait until election day to make up their minds. I mean, why vote early when you can still vote later? Some major news could come out between now and election day, and you could regret voting too early.

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Look at the thread on the Texas numbers. Relative to 2016 turnout it is more even. Its just that Democratic areas are less likely to vote in general. Only Webb County is anomalously low.

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red sox 777 posted...

Whoa. Do you know if there's an explanation for this? It seems to contradict what the polls are saying about Democrats being more likely to vote by mail.

This is early voting, not vote by mail. In Texas, plenty of Republicans vote early. It's bipartisan. Probably part of why the early voting setup is so good here is that Republicans reliably turn up for it.

Also a lot of these counties are suburbs that have been moving left since then, not sure if it's enough to flip but as 2018 shows, we shouldn't expect it to be the same margins as 2016.

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Sudan-Israel normalize relations with a Trump brokered agreement.

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How does one normalize relations between two countries not in conflict with one another?

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Ashethan posted...

How does one normalize relations between two countries not in conflict with one another?

Ummm...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum_Resolution

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Ashethan posted...

How does one normalize relations between two countries not in conflict with one another?

What

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-biden-final-debate-poll/

Who won the debate last night?

It didnt matter at all and numbers barely moved either way! Hooray! (Biden probably just polled so much better because he has so much more support right now and it was basically people going the guy I like said things I liked so he won.)

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Looks like the Barrett confirmation is going smoothly. She'll make a great Justice I think. Her current public approval is very high.

In any just world her failure to know the answers to questions a justice should know is what the confirmation is supposed to use to determine whether she's qualified.

Suprak the Stud posted...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-biden-final-debate-poll/

Who won the debate last night?

It didnt matter at all and numbers barely moved either way! Hooray! (Biden probably just polled so much better because he has so much more support right now and it was basically people going the guy I like said things I liked so he won.)

The thing that stands out to me here is that, though slightly, more Biden voters are stating they are exited to do so than Trump voters are.

That is certainly not the narrative one would expect.

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Trump's base is not happy right now. 95% of them will still vote for him, but there's only so much cognitive dissonance a brain can handle. Even if they won't let themselves believe it, they know things are fucked up and who the blame belongs to. It's taking them extra mental effort to maintain their worldview and that upsets them.

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KamikazePotato posted...

Trump's base is not happy right now. 95% of them will still vote for him, but there's only so much cognitive dissonance a brain can handle. Even if they won't let themselves believe it, they know things are fucked up and who the blame belongs to. It's taking them extra mental effort to maintain their worldview and that upsets them.

wonder if the same will ever happen with climate change.

like, at one point it has to get so disastrous that it's impossible to maintain the "NOPE IT DOESN'T EXIST" stance.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

wonder if the same will ever happen with climate change.

like, at one point it has to get so disastrous that it's impossible to maintain the "NOPE IT DOESN'T EXIST" stance.

These people believe the Book of Revelations will literally come true some day, word for word.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

wonder if the same will ever happen with climate change.

like, at one point it has to get so disastrous that it's impossible to maintain the "NOPE IT DOESN'T EXIST" stance.

It'll never happen because climate change is slow enough for everyone to just readjust their expectations of what normal weather is. Unless you're specifically comparing historical weather data, it's easy enough to just think the current year's weather is about the same as the last few years and therefore normal.
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The threat of climate change is the literal example of the boiling frog metaphor. We're even gonna die the same way!

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Xeybozn posted...

It'll never happen because climate change is slow enough for everyone to just readjust their expectations of what normal weather is. Unless you're specifically comparing historical weather data, it's easy enough to just think the current year's weather is about the same as the last few years and therefore normal.

Which seems insane since every year the actual weather gets more and more noticeably weird
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Not weird enough to severely impact our day-to-day life though.

You know. Until it eventually does. If only we could have seen this coming!

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PerfectChaosZ posted...

In any just world her failure to know the answers to questions a justice should know is what the confirmation is supposed to use to determine whether she's qualified.

Yeah, her Well Qualified Status is wrong, and you can determine if she is or not.

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https://twitter.com/repclayhiggins/status/1319715219216674817?s=21

Do Christians believe in modern day prophets? This sounds like witchcraft
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/repclayhiggins/status/1319715219216674817?s=21

Do Christians believe in modern day prophets? This sounds like witchcraft

In the last days before the end, yes. Acts 2:17.

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/repclayhiggins/status/1319715219216674817?s=21

Do Christians believe in modern day prophets? This sounds like witchcraft

https://twitter.com/dril/status/1319738022947024898

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

The thing that stands out to me here is that, though slightly, more Biden voters are stating they are exited to do so than Trump voters are.

That is certainly not the narrative one would expect.

I didn't even really notice that. That is something that is genuinely surprising to me. It could just be Biden voters are less excited to vote for him and more excited to vote against Trump, but excitement is excitement, I suppose.

What struck me is just how much higher Biden's favorability is. That is something he is markedly different than Clinton on, for sure.

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It's why this Hunter Biden stuff is a failed, wasted effort. Trump's character is so unambiguously rancid that Biden and his family look like Mr. Rogers in comparison, and no one is going to make up (or change) their minds in favor of Trump now based on Biden's character.

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The campaign was obviously hoping for in indictment or some sort of serious investigation into Joe Biden from the Justice Department.

When that didn't happen we were left with... But his emails.

That just doesn't have the same ring to it when they don't belong to Hillary Clinton and everyone doesn't have a negative preconception about the guy.

Somebody posted a few days ago about a Florida business owner that sent his employees a letter saying there'd be layoffs if Biden won

Well, there's an update: the owner fired the employee that talked to the press
https://www.wesh.com/article/layoffs-if-biden-wins-orlando-worker-fired/34454507

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Uber and Lyft are doing the same thing with their drivers in California. The message is that if Prop 22 doesn't pass you're losing your job.

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Yeah Uber and Lyft are scummy as fuck.

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Leafeon13N posted...

That just doesn't have the same ring to it when they don't belong to Hillary Clinton and everyone doesn't have a negative preconception about the guy.

plus hillary deleting emails did seem legitimately suspect. this biden controversy just seems like pointless bullshit.

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red sox 777 posted...

Uber and Lyft are doing the same thing with their drivers in California. The message is that if Prop 22 doesn't pass you're losing your job.

Uber and Lyft aren't firing workers who advocate for no on 22, and if it doesn't pass there's good reason to think that their business model won't be viable in CA.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

plus hillary deleting emails did seem legitimately suspect.

No it didn't

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Uber and Lyft aren't firing workers who advocate for no on 22, and if it doesn't pass there's good reason to think that their business model won't be viable in CA.

They can't. You can't fire someone who isn't an employee. That would be admitting they are an employee!

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red sox 777 posted...

They can't. You can't fire someone who isn't an employee. That would be admitting they are an employee!

Facts

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LordoftheMorons posted...

doesn't pass there's good reason to think that their business model won't be viable in CA.

This is false. Its going to cost them more, but their profits are so big and California is such a big market they can't afford to leave.

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Well the current ruling is that they are employees. The prop is to reverse the ruling and establish special rules to apply for their "not-employees". But if the prop fails then they will be employees by law and thus fire-able.

Just the same I'm voting no because I don't believe uber and lyft should be allowed to pay 100M to write the rules for themselves.

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red13n posted...

This is false. Its going to cost them more, but their profits are so big and California is such a big market they can't afford to leave.

Uber has never been profitable. It doesn't matter how big the market is if you end up losing money on each ride (in fact, a bigger market would make it worse!)

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Well the current ruling is that they are employees. The prop is to reverse the ruling and establish special rules to apply for their "not-employees". But if the prop fails then they will be employees by law and thus fire-able.

Just the same I'm voting no because I don't believe uber and lyft should be allowed to pay 100M to write the rules for themselves.

The ruling was stayed for now. They can't "fire" drivers without guaranteeing themselves a loss in the appellate courts.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Uber has never been profitable. It doesn't matter how big the market is if you end up losing money on each ride (in fact, a bigger market would make it worse!)

so it sounds like their business model isnt actually viable anywhere regardless of whether this thing passes?
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Isnt that voter manipulation and explicitly illegal? Arrest the CEO.

MoogleKupo141 posted...

so it sounds like their business model isnt actually viable anywhere regardless of whether this thing passes?

A lot of tech companies like that. Lose money year in and year out even while you get a massive valuation in the stock market. But at some point you break even. And after that you make massive amounts of money. If you survive long enough to get to that stage.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Uber has never been profitable. It doesn't matter how big the market is if you end up losing money on each ride (in fact, a bigger market would make it worse!)

A lot of their costs relate to R&D and paying their own employees (like, engineers, executives, etc.) The marginal expense for those things the volume of rides increases should be diminishing.

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red sox 777 posted...

The ruling was stayed for now. They can't "fire" drivers without guaranteeing themselves a loss in the appellate courts.

There was just an update that they lost an appeal regarding AB5 so I think that is ending.

They haven't announced the date for them to come into compliance but unless 22 passes I think that ship has sailed.

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https://twitter.com/politidope/status/1319778812259979264?s=21

Anyone with any takes on how this will be spun as not sexist?
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