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Wanglicious
03/20/20 9:35:39 PM
#201:


fucking yes.
especially in anything de blasio has done. weakest fucking mayor we've had in a long time.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1241170681104142338


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Corrik7
03/20/20 9:59:24 PM
#202:


USA about to pass Iran in cases and round 20k. Putting it a couple thousands from third in the world.

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Wanglicious
03/20/20 10:00:57 PM
#203:


i mean... that's if you trust Iran's numbers. which, based on the mass graves, is a big "if" to have.

also i'm reminded how dumb we are.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/19/flushed-t-shirts-clog-california-citys-sewer-amid-toilet-paper-panic/2880815001/


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Corrik7
03/20/20 10:02:30 PM
#204:


Well, you have to remember our population is much greater than all those countries, besides China. And, IRan has 1433 deaths compared to our 263 atm also. Assuming accurate numbers.

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LordoftheMorons
03/20/20 11:00:40 PM
#205:


Infuriating thread:

https://twitter.com/JeremyKonyndyk/status/1241197395851042818

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Kotetsu534
03/20/20 11:22:26 PM
#206:


Boris Johnson announced closure of pubs, restaurants, cinemas, gyms, leisure centres etc. across the UK today. In two weeks we've gone from official policy being fairly relaxed (nudging social distancing, staying indoors if we have a dry cough/fever, and encouraging us to wash our hands more) to passing emergency laws and closing down most establishment that aren't selling food/medicine for off-site consumption (public transport is also being reduced to serve key workers, although with usage down so much this was inevitable anyway). I think it's just Sweden and the Netherlands among the major European countries that are more lax than us now.

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Wanglicious
03/20/20 11:25:44 PM
#207:


yeah, everyone was shitting on them for that herd mentality idea.
netherlands is still trying to do it. i do not like their chances and await a massive flip this week.


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Corrik7
03/20/20 11:28:53 PM
#208:


Italy is scaring governments into submission.

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Grand Kirby
03/20/20 11:54:27 PM
#209:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Infuriating thread:

https://twitter.com/JeremyKonyndyk/status/1241197395851042818
If it gets to the where states are going to have to compete with each other for supplies and help we're going to be in real fucking trouble. It sounds very Objectivist, and we've seen how well that mentality works for businesses like Sears...

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Corrik7
03/21/20 1:05:52 AM
#210:


USA just hit over 20k cases.

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Kinglicious
03/21/20 1:16:08 AM
#211:


More cases than the Dow Jones.

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Wanglicious
03/21/20 1:50:25 AM
#212:


also i do feel like this needs to be said but...

while NY has a lot of cases there's a LOT of misinformation on this that's going to be revealed later.
the biggest issue: anybody that thinks NY is out of control or the center of this. it's not. we just test a lot more. a LOT more.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-more-coronavirus-testing-than-the-cdc-any-state-2020-3

US: 111,638
NY: 32,427
NY is responsible for 39% of all US tests.
NY is also capable of testing 10,000 cases a day, significantly more than anyone else; in 4 days we're probably going to be half of all reported positives. for an example, Washington state said a few days ago they're shooting for 1,500/day, just 15% of what we do in a day. while we likely do have more cases than some places due to population and population density, the biggest factor for our numbers is because we can actually test it. this will potentially leave us as the best urban area in a few weeks since we're catching it quicker than anyone else. ideally you wouldn't need these numbers to get people to act but you unfortunately do. state governments will try their best because they know better, it's just down to citizens taking it seriously. which... yeah.

now i'm not gonna complain when we get federal aid, funding, and get FEMA involved because we're ahead of the numbers race but it is going to suck for everyone else who's slower on this: all their real numbers are going to go up, everyone will know they're up, but the confirmation will be slow.

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Corrik7
03/21/20 2:01:24 AM
#213:


https://twitter.com/Brief_19/status/1241216392738869248/photo/1

lol what. Possibly up to a 26 r0 and the CFR is really .1 to .5%.

Like to see the data on that.

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LordoftheMorons
03/21/20 2:15:51 AM
#214:


That can't be consistent with China having contained it. It would be basically impossible to lock down if R0 was that high.

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Kinglicious
03/21/20 2:22:28 AM
#215:


China hasn't contained it.
They're literally running empty buildings to act like they have.

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LordoftheMorons
03/21/20 2:29:06 AM
#216:


Fine, if you don't believe China's numbers, there's no way South Korea/Singapore/Taiwan could have gotten it under control with that R0.

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Esuriat
03/21/20 2:29:38 AM
#217:


There was a study from back in February out of Hong Kong (I think) that claimed an R0 as high as 6.6 and lately I've been wondering about that again.

But 26 is pure insanity until I see anything to corroborate it. That's "Oh, turns out that shitty day with a headache I had back on the 9th was actually COVID-19" levels

It mentioned the Kirkland, WA nursing home and I can't help but think that if those figures were true why would that place get ravaged so badly but tons of nursing homes across the US remain seemingly spared for now. It absolutely would have come to them by now. Also of course I feel this would implicate South Korea as lying too.

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Corrik7
03/21/20 2:32:15 AM
#218:


If the R0 is really 26 then 1 wave and this is over as far as lockdowns, tbqh.

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red13n
03/21/20 2:36:33 AM
#219:


Corrik7 posted...
https://twitter.com/Brief_19/status/1241216392738869248/photo/1

lol what. Possibly up to a 26 r0 and the CFR is really .1 to .5%.

Like to see the data on that.

This seems entirely unsourced outside the Washington elderly facility, and that obviously is going to be an aberration.

This doesn't even seem like a real study, tbh.

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Esuriat
03/21/20 2:42:26 AM
#220:


It's referencing this study on medRxiv: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.18.20037994v1.full.pdf

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Kinglicious
03/21/20 2:44:54 AM
#221:


Oh I don't believe it's 26, not normally anyway. There's a few outsider cases that can technically make this possible - the Korean cult - and I can think of situations like a cruise ship that could do something this ridiculous. It's entirely possible that, this data being from Washington, we're really talking about how stupidly easy to be a super spreader within a nursing home.

Taiwan btw is actually doing pretty good. They acted INSTANTLY since they know China. Saved a huge number right there. Korea very briefly had a rate that was higher than that (patient 31 set off a chain reaction that got to some 1600 cases within a week iirc) but cracked down as hard as possible on the cult, effectively quarantining 200,000 people or so. That worked for most of it.

Basically it doesn't seem technically impossible for outliers to do this sort of number but it's likely rare and demands very specific circumstances. Unprepared nursing home might be one of them.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/21/20 8:45:44 AM
#222:


Kotetsu534 posted...
I think it's just Sweden and the Netherlands among the major European countries that are more lax than us now.

the netherlands is more lax? how? all pubs, restaurants, cinemas, gyms and leisure centres are closed here too. seems the same as the UK to me.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/21/20 8:46:59 AM
#223:


in other news, yesterday the amount of cases here went from about 2000 to about 2500 and now it's about 3000.

good to know it's not getting much worse, i guess, though it's not getting any better either.

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pyresword
03/21/20 11:13:57 AM
#224:


Medrxiv means not peer reviewed, for the record. Typically I think it's used to get legitimate research out quickly before the peer review process finishes (ie. It would be submitted there and to a proper journal), but I would treat obviously questionable claims with extreme skepticism if medrxiv is the only source, because I think anyone who wants to can get things put up on that site.
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Grand Kirby
03/21/20 12:13:10 PM
#225:


Politics in Florida:

https://twitter.com/Farbod_E/status/1241247329572683776

That guy is my hero atm

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Corrik7
03/21/20 12:16:27 PM
#226:


Death in a county over from mine. They won't release any details regarding the person's age or such.

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ninkendo
03/21/20 12:17:50 PM
#227:


Today is the first time I have ever read "Mass Extinction Event" in a news article

hail Kojima

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htaeD
03/21/20 12:20:01 PM
#228:


Mr Lasastryke posted...


the netherlands is more lax? how? all pubs, restaurants, cinemas, gyms and leisure centres are closed here too. seems the same as the UK to me.


I think people are calling us out for still allowing useless stores to be open (Like why the **** is Bruna still going)
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ninkendo
03/21/20 12:20:38 PM
#229:


Grand Kirby posted...
Politics in Florida:

https://twitter.com/Farbod_E/status/1241247329572683776

That guy is my hero atm
Can I elect this guy President

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Wanglicious
03/21/20 12:30:14 PM
#230:


Grand Kirby posted...
Politics in Florida:

https://twitter.com/Farbod_E/status/1241247329572683776

That guy is my hero atm

just found out who she is too.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20200320/watch-coronavirus-florida-lake-worth-beach-meeting-gets-ugly-and-heated-about-emergency-powers

Pam Triolo, mayor of Lake Worth Beach, Florida.
he's Commissioner Omari Hardy.

man's got a bright future ahead of him.


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Esuriat
03/21/20 12:34:50 PM
#231:


Seems my county now has two cases.

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Corrik7
03/21/20 1:16:50 PM
#232:


Italy's update:
+6557 new positive cases (total 53578)
+793 new deaths (total 4825)
+943 new recoveries (total 6072)

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Esuriat
03/21/20 1:24:23 PM
#233:


It feels so weird watching Germany continue to keep a relatively low CFR while Italy looks like they have plain old SARS

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Corrik7
03/21/20 1:26:59 PM
#234:


Esuriat posted...
It feels so weird watching Germany continue to keep a relatively low CFR while Italy looks like they have plain old SARS
Because Italy likely has hundreds of thousands more cases than Germany if not millions.

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Wanglicious
03/21/20 1:43:41 PM
#235:


Corrik7 posted...
Italy's update:
+6557 new positive cases (total 53578)
+793 new deaths (total 4825)
+943 new recoveries (total 6072)

9%.
rising quickly, that's a percent increase from last week.

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Wanglicious
03/21/20 2:39:09 PM
#236:


meanwhile, in China.

https://twitter.com/lokinhei/status/1241220936906338304

i seriously hope nobody is surprised.
it matches up well with the pictures and videos showing new cases in Wuhan but the official report is zero.

i'm sure those "foreign" cases are totally legit too, not local cases being labeled as such.

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Corrik7
03/21/20 3:06:25 PM
#237:


If so, they probably determined the economic damage isn't worth the hassle. That said, Idk if I believe that.

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Raka_Putra
03/21/20 3:18:40 PM
#238:


Corrik7 posted...
Italy's update:
+6557 new positive cases (total 53578)
+793 new deaths (total 4825)
+943 new recoveries (total 6072)
That's crazy.

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Corrik7
03/21/20 3:39:08 PM
#239:


We should be the 3rd highest nation in confirmed cases tomorrow and 6th highest in deaths.

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ninkendo
03/21/20 4:03:53 PM
#240:


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Moonroof
03/21/20 4:05:18 PM
#241:


Are they treating people who dont have insurance?
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ninkendo
03/21/20 4:06:45 PM
#242:


most hospitals were already operating in the red to begin with

mine is one of the few who don't

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TheRock1525
03/21/20 4:25:25 PM
#243:


On a personal note, I'm surprised how many escorts haven't pulled their ads on the site I use.

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Jakyl25
03/21/20 5:03:30 PM
#244:


Someone really needs to mark that Ulti topic for spreading dangerous info

I cant because Im blocked and had to log out to see it.
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MoogleKupo141
03/21/20 5:24:22 PM
#245:


Jakyl25 posted...
Someone really needs to mark that Ulti topic for spreading dangerous info

I cant because Im blocked and had to log out to see it.


oh boy I just checked and ultis talking about martial law and weirdly throwing in an attack at illegal immigrants and the homeless?
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LordoftheMorons
03/21/20 6:36:45 PM
#246:


https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/1241491984524677121

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ChaosTonyV4
03/21/20 6:58:34 PM
#247:


My National Guard friends have been called up to Active Duty and are headed to New York City Monday.

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Corrik7
03/21/20 7:11:32 PM
#248:


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/488735-could-trump-declare-national-coronavirus-shutdown-momentum-is-rising?amp

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Corrik7
03/21/20 7:14:38 PM
#249:


USA officially has the third highest case total.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/21/20 7:40:51 PM
#250:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
oh boy I just checked and ultis talking about martial law and weirdly throwing in an attack at illegal immigrants and the homeless?

oh was that what timjab was talking about? ulti has me blocked too so i didn't see it.

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