Board 8 > Coronavirus Topic 4: Oblivion

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SwiftyDC posted...

Italy's death toll is now higher than China.

Actual death toll probably not, but they are on their way to leaving no doubt about it eventually. Italy is still in big trouble.

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South Korea seems like they might be creeping back up a bit... new cases for the last several days have been 76, 74, 84, 93, 152.

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red13n posted...

Actual death toll probably not, but they are on their way to leaving no doubt about it eventually. Italy is still in big trouble.

I dont mean to sound insensitive here but it's a little over 3k dead right their population is over 60 million so I dont think the country as a whole is in dire straits yet

I get it death is never great but everyones acting life half the population got wiped out here

Shouldn't it start slowing anyways with the forced quarantine

Lopen posted...

Well to be fair they say you can recover by doing cardio training so I think it's probably too soon to be sure if that's 'permanent damage' given that many people who recover from things that require hospitalization would experience similar things after being discharged and would gradually recover with time

That being said maybe they won't recover time will tell like not trying to downplay it but yeah I'm not sure that article isn't saying anything that's not 'duh' for anyone who has been hospitalized for a sickness or knew someone who was at the moment.

lung damage is just one of them.
there's evidence and research done to suggest that other organs - kidneys, testicles, heart, thyroid, brain - can be affected by the virus, with effects that are potentially long lasting.

full research remains unknown, obviously.
the important thing is that this coronavirus can potentially affect more than just your lungs but a lot of other parts too, so don't play with it when you get it because you'll just risk a lot more.


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KinjiMuto_3 posted...

I dont mean to sound insensitive here but it's a little over 3k dead right their population is over 60 million so I dont think the country as a whole is in dire straits yet

I get it death is never great but everyones acting life half the population got wiped out here

Shouldn't it start slowing anyways with the forced quarantine

They've been on quarantine for about 10 days now. The curve on new cases is still going up.

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Nioh 2
Animal Crossing
Doom Eternal
Persona 5 R
Resident Evil 3
Final Fantasy VII

All releasing within the next 3 weeks or have been released(nioh 2)

Had this outbreak taken place 2 months ago here they would have shut down for a couple of months with no hesitation

Too many massive games coming out for them to ignore and they know they will lose a SHIT TON of money

Imagine those games coming out and Gamestop is closed....ti effects publishers too. They;ll lose a ton of sales.

FF7R is not releasing physically on time
Persona 5 Royal is likely stateside at this point so it has a shot
RE3 any moment now will be delayed physically


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KinjiMuto_3 posted...

I dont mean to sound insensitive here but it's a little over 3k dead right their population is over 60 million so I dont think the country as a whole is in dire straits yet

I get it death is never great but everyones acting life half the population got wiped out here

Shouldn't it start slowing anyways with the forced quarantine

That's a higher body count than 9/11 and look all the ruckus that caused. Health care system there is upside down and who knows when will it end.

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https://twitter.com/allonmedicare/status/1240871768388259841?s=21
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That's a higher body count than 9/11 and look all the ruckus that caused.

lol

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/allonmedicare/status/1240871768388259841?s=21

I'm 70% coronavirus.

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Make sure to balance yourself out with some limes, then.

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It's looking more and more like this nationwide lockdown IS going into effect on Monday. Hopefully people listened to me a few days ago and got a head start on preparing, whether it be getting food and supplies or rounding up their loved ones. if not, do so now. I'd say that there is a 90% chance they announce Sunday that you are not to leave your homes for ANY reason beginning Monday.

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If said lockdown were to happen, how do they expect people to get food
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I assume the National Guard will be distributing rations. It's come to this.

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Oh okay.

Dammit Jeff Bezos, distribute this shit with your Amazon drone army
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Shouldn't you know this for sure, as someone allegedly being briefed on the logistics of such a lockdown?
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https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143418774001#sp=show-clips

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All the lockdowns I'm aware of so far have only been shelter in place orders which exclude things like going to the grocery, or people in essential work positions going to work, etc. I'd be a lot more quick to believe we'd do something like that at a national level than I am to believe that we're going to transition to a completely militarized state with no (public) advance notice.
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pyresword posted...

Shouldn't you know this for sure, as someone allegedly being briefed on the logistics of such a lockdown?

I'm not in the National Guard.

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I mean I'd imagine they would at least tell you things like "the National Guard is handling X and Y," but maybe I have too much faith in them.
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pyresword posted...

All the lockdowns I'm aware of so far have only been shelter in place orders which exclude things like going to the grocery, or people in essential work positions going to work, etc. I'd be a lot more quick to believe we'd do something like that at a national level than I am to believe that we're going to transition to a completely militarized state with no (public) advance notice.

You wanna take chances that's entirely up to you. Maybe this doesn't happen and you're fine. I'm just passing along what little information I have been given. I'm giving the same information to my family and friends.

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pyresword posted...

I mean I'd imagine they would at least tell you things like "the National Guard is handling X and Y," but maybe I have too much faith in them.

You have too much faith in them.

My job told me to keep working if I come in direct, prolonged, close contact with a confirmed case and not to stop working until I have infected everyone at my precinct. Nobody has any idea how to handle this.

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I've been hearing that people within my local supermarkets, grocery stores and wholesalers have started to become unneccesarily aggressive and hostile towards staff, particularly in regards to trying to buy more than 1 of specific products today. I didn't notice anything of that sort in the stores I went to, I expect that things are going to be much worse in the following week now that schools close today over here, and will not be surprised if the goverment starts sending out the military to keep people at bay.

Thankfully, me and my family should have enough food for the next 2-3 weeks.

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even china didn't do the "can't leave for ANY reason" bit. that's not happening.


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Wanglicious posted...

even china didn't do the "can't leave for ANY reason" bit. that's not happening.

Yes they did.

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so did welding people into homes turn out to be fake?

am i gonna get welded in?

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no, they didn't.
if you tested positive or were suspected of testing positive they forced you to a cube/dragged you out/welded you in, sure, but even among the heavy restrictions the restrictions went one person per household was allowed to leave daily. they didn't go 100% you're stuck inside unless, again, you were a positive for having it.

something like, say, California's lockdown right now is far more possible. alternatively, Hoboken's rules. in both cases you can still go out for groceries, for pharmaceuticals, and sanitation purposes (throwing out trash, walking dog, etc).

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CoolCly posted...

so did welding people into homes turn out to be fake?

am i gonna get welded in?

china forced quarantine and would straight up do whatever it took if it meant forcing you into quarantine if you had it/tested positive with a fever, which is what i mean when i say suspected to have it.

if you didn't though? then you were just held to the extremely restrictive rules of leaving the home.
but that's to say, you could still leave the home. supply lines need to keep moving, people still need to be taken care of, it ain't gonna happen. but stronger restrictions like we see out of some states, totally can buy that.

i mean shit, de Blasio practically abandoned his position as mayor to just beg Trump yesterday, so NYC can use some better limits than what it's got now but it's not gonna be full lockdown, nobody leaves their homes.

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Wanglicious posted...

no, they didn't.
if you tested positive or were suspected of testing positive they forced you to a cube/dragged you out/welded you in, sure, but even among the heavy restrictions the restrictions went one person per household was allowed to leave daily. they didn't go 100% you're stuck inside unless, again, you were a positive for having it.

something like, say, California's lockdown right now is far more possible. alternatively, Hoboken's rules. in both cases you can still go out for groceries, for pharmaceuticals, and sanitation purposes (throwing out trash, walking dog, etc).

At the very end they had drones enforcing you not to leave your house. There are articles in China where citizens complained they couldn't get food.

They tracked everyone with a WeChat App.

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speak of the devil, Cuomo doing what de Blasio utterly failed to do.

https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1241024005299109889

i'll take it.
but i want an explicit list of what "others" is.

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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm?s_cid=mm6912e2_w

https://i.imgur.com/jslZ02y.png

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Iran today

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240950781483855873?s=20

Spain today

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240957517041106946?s=20

World wide

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240957885665939457?s=20

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those numbers are definitely important. even though 20-44 isn't at an age where you're likely to die it's the group 2nd most likely to demand hospitalization. so you won't die yet but you've likely got permanent damage taking years off your life. the fact that hospitalizations of 20-54 are 49% should speak volumes to how little people are taking care of themselves or taking precautions.

that should serve as another reminder that "mild" with this virus has always had no differentiation between "mild symptoms" and "mild hospitalization" because that's how china was defining it. the only level after that was literally organ failure so as long as your body wasn't shutting down, it was "mild."

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Corrik7 posted...

Iran today

this is another country with numbers that you know you can't trust anymore.
they ain't digging those mass graves for fun.


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Wanglicious posted...

speak of the devil, Cuomo doing what de Blasio utterly failed to do.

https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1241024005299109889

i'll take it.
but i want an explicit list of what "others" is.

We have one in PA. Here is it.

https://www.scribd.com/document/452417159/20200319-Life-Sustaining-Business

Of note. Beer distributors are life essential. Lol

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thanks will look through.

cuomo got kicked off the feed for trump, who's starting now.

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Wanglicious posted...

those numbers are definitely important. even though 20-44 isn't at an age where you're likely to die it's the group 2nd most likely to demand hospitalization. so you won't die yet but you've likely got permanent damage taking years off your life. the fact that hospitalizations of 20-54 are 49% should speak volumes to how little people are taking care of themselves or taking precautions.

I think you're interpreting those numbers wrong

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MZero11 posted...

I think you're interpreting those numbers wrong

He is.

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No national lockdown as of now.

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I cannot believe people are STILL downplaying this because they might not personally die. Our species is literally too dumb to live.

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Have you talked to Seph about that?
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you're right. though for what it's worth, i wasn't basing the 20-44 age group being the 2nd worst for hospitalizations based on the chart, it was from this bit:

Among 508 (12%) patients known to have been hospitalized, 9% were aged 85 years, 36% were aged 6584 years, 17% were aged 5564 years, 18% were 4554 years, and 20% were aged 2044 years. Less than 1% of hospitalizations were among persons aged 19 years (Figure 2). The percentage of persons hospitalized increased with age, from 2%3% among persons aged 19 years, to 31% among adults aged 85 years. (Table).

20-44 is still the 2nd highest group of hospitalizations at 20%. meaning 1 in every 5 adult aged 20-44 will need hospitalization.
combined with 45-54, it goes up to 38%.

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Made it to shops, everything's pretty much fucking gone. My local Sainsbury's had its Freezer picked cleaner than the Big Show's Christmas Turkey!

You have to get up a Stupid A.M. if you want to stand a chance but some stores are implenting "Senior Hour"...

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I just left the grocery store and it was remarkably well stocked. It seems like the people I am competing against to survive are dumb as fuck.

I don't think I need to go shopping for 6 months as long as I don't mind eating the same 4 or 5 things until then.

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NYC varies a bit on where it is and what the shop is.
Queens is pretty well stocked in most places from what i've seen and heard.

Manhattan is harder but i'm sure Western Beef still has decent stock.
not that i've any intention to check because i'm good for a while.

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SavageInTheBox posted...

I cannot believe people are STILL downplaying this because they might not personally die. Our species is literally too dumb to live.

I just want to know what makes it so much worse than H1N1. lots of people died from the swine flu, but the world didn't completely grind to a halt because of it

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we are going to get fat on taquitos over the next few weeks here

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DeepsPraw posted...

I just want to know what makes it so much worse than H1N1. lots of people died from the swine flu, but the world didn't completely grind to a halt because of it

How contagious and hardy it is.


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Wanglicious posted...

NYC varies a bit on where it is and what the shop is.
Queens is pretty well stocked in most places from what i've seen and heard.

Manhattan is harder but i'm sure Western Beef still has decent stock.
not that i've any intention to check because i'm good for a while.

Western Beef still around? Wow. Only been to the US twice ('91 and '96) and pretty much the same city

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i find it mildly interesting and at the same time mildly infuriating the way people toss around the "lasting, permanent damage" talk as if they actually know what the hell they're talking about.

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