Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 247: Election Night 2019!

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Anyone got anything going on where they live?
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hat doesn't prove causation though. Conspiracy theories always play well because it makes people feel better to think there is some grand scheme working against them rather than individual people with terrible ideas.

All I see is a politician flip flopping their position because of opportunity (there is space to the right of Warren and could be even more space when Biden inevitably collapses in on himself like a dying star). There isn't any space left of Warren and she has already established herself as a strong voice in the realm between the far left and the moderate left. Pete's only option is to go right.

You can think CONSPIRACY but all I've seen is evidence of a slimy politician doing what is best for his campaign.

How is it a conspiracy to say "People will do what people who give them millions of dollars tell them to do."

Like, what? <_<
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Nope, nothing on the town's ballot today AFAIK.
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Could I politely request somebody else make the topic? Chris decided to block me sometime in the past day apparently after a football argument, and I'm not really sure it's fair for that to warrant him jumping to make the topic to banish me.

This is SEP btw thanks

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Anyone got anything going on where they live?

Ten(!) state constitutional amendments, by far the biggest of which I briefly brought up at the end of the last topic.

I'll wait until I'm not typing on a phone (or maybe until results come in) to talk more about them.

Though I will provide a link to the League of Women Voters non-partisan guide to the propositions being voted on: https://my.lwv.org/texas/election-information (click each link under "Proposed Constitutional Amendments" for info on each one)

Edit in the politics flair
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And unblock SEP while you're at it if you're going to make topics.
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I could understand if I had been causing trouble in these topics themselves, but this seems fairly petty. I'll just ignore you if you don't want me seeing your posts (even though the last argument that lead to this was you replying to me. >_>)

SgtSphynx posted...

Edit in the politics flair

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I post the Epstein video and the topic immediately closes. COINCIDENCE?!
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SgtSphynx posted...

Edit in the politics flair

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Oops, topic flair updated. And I made this topic because I really want to talk about the use of "conspiracy theory" = donors influence politics and the topic hit 500.
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That's fine, but could you kindly just unblock me and I'll promise to never reply to a post of yours, and you'll get your desired effect?

You know, instead of continuing to block all of my accounts in an effort to banish me from this topic.
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I am not trying to banish you from the topic, I wasn't even thinking about you when I made the topic I just wanted to discuss something with Suprak. I don't mind if someone else makes the topic and you are in it, after all I have you blocked.
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You can talk about whatever you want but people who make topics can't have regular contributors to these topics blocked. Just unblock SEP for the duration this topic is up pretty please?
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You can make a new topic, Suprak, and I'll close this one. I just was excited to discuss what I said, I don't really make topics much but yeah.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

am not trying to banish you from the topic

And yet you (apparently) blocked his alt too?

Seriously?

Reg I have a question.

Are you reading the topic?
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Ya. You said multiple times why you made the topic/others can make one, and claim that you don't want to shut him out. But when he used an alt to ask not to be shut out, you blocked that too according to him.

You're better than that, man. Very easy to not block his alt until the situation was settled or just wait for somebody else to make a topic.

Ignoring me would suffice.

Blocking me and any alt I post in this topic on is outright trying to banish me from them.

Please chill out with the taste of LEMONS and REAL STRAWBERRIES, witnessing nothing but the health benefits of over 14 VITAMINS AND MINERALS found in each glass of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

I feel like people complicate things sometimes.

Just you, Reg, copy this title, add another "!' or drop it, make the new topic, and then we're all good. Anyway I made a choice the other day I want nothing more to do with SEP after many months of nothing but negative interaction upon reflection, so I am sticking with that. I also understand however he posts here a lot and shouldn't be blocked from doing so.

So uhh someone make the new topic!
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LemonberySplash posted...

Ignoring me would suffice.

Blocking me and any alt I post in this topic on is outright trying to banish me from them.

Please chill out with the taste of LEMONS and REAL STRAWBERRIES, witnessing nothing but the health benefits of over 14 VITAMINS AND MINERALS found in each glass of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

Okay I can't block this alt.
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Also this is the most I've heard "banish" be mentioned since my world of warcraft raiding days. You guys need to calm down.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

LemonberySplash posted...

Ignoring me would suffice.

Blocking me and any alt I post in this topic on is outright trying to banish me from them.

Please chill out with the taste of LEMONS and REAL STRAWBERRIES, witnessing nothing but the health benefits of over 14 VITAMINS AND MINERALS found in each glass of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

Okay I can't block this alt.

Chris I am legitimately sorry for the football argument and the fact you feel we only have unpleasant interactions with one another. I am very serious when I say I will mentally ignore your posts and bite my tongue if I feel like disagreeing on anything if it will help.

After all, we must come together to enjoy the crisp, refreshing flavor of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

LemonberySplash posted...

Ignoring me would suffice.

Blocking me and any alt I post in this topic on is outright trying to banish me from them.

Please chill out with the taste of LEMONS and REAL STRAWBERRIES, witnessing nothing but the health benefits of over 14 VITAMINS AND MINERALS found in each glass of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

Now this is a name that brings me back to the long, long ago.
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Dey gotta surfer.
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LemonberySplash posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

LemonberySplash posted...

Ignoring me would suffice.

Blocking me and any alt I post in this topic on is outright trying to banish me from them.

Please chill out with the taste of LEMONS and REAL STRAWBERRIES, witnessing nothing but the health benefits of over 14 VITAMINS AND MINERALS found in each glass of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

Okay I can't block this alt.

Chris I am legitimately sorry for the football argument and the fact you feel we only have unpleasant interactions with one another. I am very serious when I say I will mentally ignore your posts and bite my tongue if I feel like disagreeing on anything if it will help.

After all, we must come together to enjoy the crisp, refreshing flavor of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

What really bothered me is around the same time as that argument I was lurking the wrestling topic and you mentioned you popped into the politics topics just to hate on Tulsi right after we got into an argument that I feel is very important to the future of the country and I felt like it was in bad faith and I was being wound up on purpose, and I really just have better things to do with my time than be wound up on purpose when my two year old keeps me up every night already.

Like, it literally did not cross my mind when making this that I had you blocked, just that when you popped up with an alt I was like "nope not dealing with SEP anymore." You of all people should know if I banished you I'd cackle evil and revel in the glory that is Chris. You were a Mercs voter, SEP.

Seriously you too, Reg. Denying I am being spiteful is not in the Chris personality book.
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Banished!
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If it makes you feel any better I'm pretty sure everyone that posts in these topics has hated Tulsi forever except you, Tony, and myself and Tony and I have moved over into the "nah she's on her own" camp within the past couple of months
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I consider Tulsi on her own now too for the most part but I think nuances in political arguments are important. Just like with the Omar thing and people in this topic repeating Republican talking points. Like yeah I wish Omar just agreed with me 100% and said exactly what I want her to say that'd be perfect but it doesn't mean I want to do the GOP's job for them.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

LemonberySplash posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

LemonberySplash posted...

Ignoring me would suffice.

Blocking me and any alt I post in this topic on is outright trying to banish me from them.

Please chill out with the taste of LEMONS and REAL STRAWBERRIES, witnessing nothing but the health benefits of over 14 VITAMINS AND MINERALS found in each glass of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

Okay I can't block this alt.

Chris I am legitimately sorry for the football argument and the fact you feel we only have unpleasant interactions with one another. I am very serious when I say I will mentally ignore your posts and bite my tongue if I feel like disagreeing on anything if it will help.

After all, we must come together to enjoy the crisp, refreshing flavor of LEMONBERRY SPLASH!

What really bothered me is around the same time as that argument I was lurking the wrestling topic and you mentioned you popped into the politics topics just to hate on Tulsi right after we got into an argument that I feel is very important to the future of the country and I felt like it was in bad faith and I was being wound up on purpose, and I really just have better things to do with my time than be wound up on purpose when my two year old keeps me up every night already.

Like, it literally did not cross my mind when making this that I had you blocked, just that when you popped up with an alt I was like "nope not dealing with SEP anymore." You of all people should know if I banished you I'd cackle evil and revel in the glory that is Chris. You were a Mercs voter, SEP.

Seriously you too, Reg. Denying I am being spiteful is not in the Chris personality book.

That's fair, and I apologize if you think that's intended to wind you up, because it's not. That post in the wrestling topic was a joke, since we regularly crack on Eddv for seeming to just pop in to hate on WWE, and Rock for seeming to pop in just to defend WWE. I legitimately do not like Tulsi, but I am in no way arguing to intentionally wind anybody up.

I just think you could have accomplished your goal by ignoring my account instead of blocking it, since blocking it does make it seem like you're trying to keep me from being able to see/post in the topic. I accept that's not your intention.

Sorry I couldn't keep running Lemonberry Splash into the ground, I had to switch again.
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All of your accounts have been restored to being able to view me. Congratulations you are the first time I have ever ignored or blocked anyone on here. I was just really tired <_<
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Oh now I wish I had kept you blocked so we had dueling topics. God damnit.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Seriously you too, Reg. Denying I am being spiteful is not in the Chris personality book.

I agree. But I hold people I like to higher standards than people I don't so intent didn't factor in when I called you out on it.

I will blame my two year old for all of this.
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Argh, Ive had to explain numerous times to random stranger groups in public today why its important that they vote

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SaveEstelle posted...

Argh, Ive had to explain numerous times to random stranger groups in public today why its important that they vote

I hope you explained that it's important that become become educated on issues and candidates and then vote rather than just badgering a bunch of strangers to vote blindly. The latter is how you literally destroy democracy.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I hope you explained that it's important that become become educated on issues and candidates and then vote rather than just badgering a bunch of strangers to vote blindly. The latter is how you literally destroy democracy.

Yeah, I did. My uh, sermon I guess, has always been first and foremost about the necessity to educate oneself rather than following blindly.

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

SaveEstelle posted...

Argh, Ive had to explain numerous times to random stranger groups in public today why its important that they vote

I hope you explained that it's important that become become educated on issues and candidates and then vote rather than just badgering a bunch of strangers to vote blindly. The latter is how you literally destroy democracy.

Yeah, this. If people don't care enough about the election to vote, really the best thing is for them not to vote.
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https://twitter.com/KyleLovesBernie/status/1191579622825025536

Bernie polls best against Trump in Michigan.

But maybe Bernie just overperforms polls in Michigan-

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_democratic_presidential_primary-5224.html

Oh.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Oh now I wish I had kept you blocked so we had dueling topics. God damnit.

I'll close mine. I admit defeat.

And seriously, man, I'll try to pay more mind to how my posts come off. I get I can be very abrasive at times, but I don't intend to outright upset people.

EDIT: Actually would it be better to leave mine open since the first 40 posts aren't me trying to get unblocked? >_>
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I think you just made the wrong post on the wrong day, tbh. I have been sick lately, my kiddo is terrible two'ing me and my fiance to death, and yeah I was just done with abrasive.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

https://twitter.com/KyleLovesBernie/status/1191579622825025536

Bernie polls best against Trump in Michigan.

But maybe Bernie just overperforms polls in Michigan-

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_democratic_presidential_primary-5224.html

Oh.

Those 2016 polls are outrageously bad. How could they have been off by 23 points?
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Oh I didn't know you were a dad Chris. A very belated congrats!

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Not as belated as you may think. My fiance came packaged with the best son a new dad could ever ask for, so I got extreme 2-1 value there. I claim him and his biological dad lives half a country away and is weirdly not affectionate and doesn't mind only seeing him in person a few times a year so he calls me 'daddy' and gives me the best hugs so yeah, he's mine now.

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red sox 777 posted...

Yeah, this. If people don't care enough about the election to vote, really the best thing is for them not to vote.

Which is why I Do the Thing.

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I don't really care which topic stays open now that you two have hashed it out honestly. Just happy to see that you did (also can definitely understand the impact of kids on a dad's mood without ever having one of my own tbh)

Sondland's revised testimony confirms quid pro quo and that the ask was an announcement of the investigation from Zelensky himself (which is not a thing you would demand if your interest was really in the investigation rather than in creating a cloud over Biden):
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1191790088218394625

And a relevant blast from the past:
https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1191825904399454210

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Michigan loves themselves some Bernie, it is true.

For a complete picture though:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Check the polls from yesterday.

Biden does better against Trump than Bernie in Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina and Iowa
Bernie does better against Trump than Biden in Michigan, Texas, and Nevada
I don't see any states where Warren polls best against Trump

Theoretically with current polling there is a realistic path to victory for Biden, a plausible path to victory for Bernie, and Warren looks like she's getting beaten fairly soundly. Still a far way out though. Plenty of time for things to swing one way or the other. And most of this comes from one polling company so we will want to see more aggregates for all of these states before drawing conclusions.
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Put Bernie and Trump on the same debate stage 3 times and I will be satisfied tbh.

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