Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic #228 - Orbs you glad I didn't say banana?

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https://twitter.com/joaquincastrotx/status/1145837857539612673?s=21

Rep. Castro snuck a photo of all the women in one cell
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1145837522355924992?s=21

This was in fact the type of toilet we saw in the cell.

Except there was just one, and the sink portion was not functioning - @AyannaPressley smartly tried to open the faucet, and nothing came out.

So the women were told they could drink out of the bowl.

I'm no plumber but I'm pretty sure if there's running water for the toilet, there's running water for the sink. They're the same mechanism.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/joaquincastrotx/status/1145837857539612673?s=21

Rep. Castro snuck a photo of all the women in one cell

Looks pretty fun to me! Slumber party!
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AOC also implying that the guards are probably raping all the women. Based on her own hysterical self-objectification.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1145837522355924992?s=21

This was in fact the type of toilet we saw in the cell.

Except there was just one, and the sink portion was not functioning - @AyannaPressley smartly tried to open the faucet, and nothing came out.

So the women were told they could drink out of the bowl.

I'm no plumber but I'm pretty sure if there's running water for the toilet, there's running water for the sink. They're the same mechanism.

We get it, you think theyre lying
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Nrrr posted...

Every single conservative has the exact same opinion: AOC is lying, but also the conditions should be even worse than she describes.

Nelson_Mandela posted...

AOC also implying that the guards are probably raping all the women. Based on her own hysterical self-objectification.

And even if they are, they should be thankful theyre getting some!
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Careful guys, if were too mean we might force Seph to vote for Trump
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I'm no plumber but I'm pretty sure if there's running water for the toilet, there's running water for the sink. They're the same mechanism.

You're right. You're not a plumber.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

I'm no plumber but I'm pretty sure if there's running water for the toilet, there's running water for the sink. They're the same mechanism.

You're right. You're not a plumber.

He pays illegal immigrants for that
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That's the equivalent of your internet being out but not understanding why you can still play solitaire.
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Go live at the place and see for yourself if its humane enough

What do you guys think about requiring every American to serve a week in jail upon turning 18 so that they know what it's like? Maybe people would be more hesitant to vote for policies of mass incarceration.
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im goiing to go ahead and speak for everyone else and say we all think thats a great idea
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I've been very clear that my biggest issue with America is that it just doesn't put enough people in jail

i'm going to go ahead and say that mooglekupo141 can always speak for me
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Nrrr posted...

Every single conservative has the exact same opinion: AOC is lying, but also the conditions should be even worse than she describes.

Accurate
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Virginia courts will no longer suspend drivers licenses for unpaid fines and court costs. They will also reinstate licenses for over half a million drivers.

This is a big step forward. I believe only 7 other states don't do this. We need it to be 50.

No opinion on the Nike decision itself, but what a stupid, counterproductive overreaction from Arizonas governor:

https://twitter.com/dougducey/status/1145980544909340672?s=21
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Time to boycott Nike.
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Why werent you already?
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Should I have been boycotting them before this flag thing? Did they do something else?
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red sox 777 posted...

Should I have been boycotting them before this flag thing? Did they do something else?

They literally make Kaepernick one of their spokespeople. You should have hated them for years now.
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No citizenship question on the census!

https://twitter.com/dan_f_jacobson/status/1146153111393886208?s=21
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TheRock1525 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Should I have been boycotting them before this flag thing? Did they do something else?

They literally make Kaepernick one of their spokespeople. You should have hated them for years now.

What's that got to do with anything? I support Kaepernick's right to free speech. And the free speech of anyone who wants to display the original US flag.
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But not Nike's free speech to pull their own product?
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This seems kind of dumb.

It wasn't a confederate flag, or something like that. It was our countries first flag.
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It emboldens the liberals who want to stamp out free speech.
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Ah, so you dislike free speech when it aligns with liberal viewpoints.
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https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1146169712109166592

Gross
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No, I dislike censorship, even when it's self-censorship.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1146169712109166592

Gross

what the fuck

also from the land of "what the fuck"

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Forceful_Dragon posted...

This seems kind of dumb.

It wasn't a confederate flag, or something like that. It was our countries first flag.

Did you know that our countries first flag represents a time where black people were considered property?

Very easy to see why kap would not love it!

Apparently the betsy ross flag has been co-opted by alt-right groups as well? I don't necessarily thing that should be a reason to pull the product, but on the other hand, I am an overwhelming supporter of absolutely torching american civil religion to the ground. Preserving history is not the same thing as making an idol of american iconography from a time that we kept slaves and committed genocides

Reg posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1146169712109166592

Gross

what the fuck

Everything about this is fucking terrible
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Fun fact about the us military:
A man who was photographed with "communism will win" in his west point graduation hat was given an "other than honorable discharge", meaning no vet benefits and extremely poor job prospects, and called a threat to national security by Marco Rubio

1/3 members of the US military say they personally work with someone they would call a white supremacist, and an avowed Nazi was punished but not discharged when this information was brought to his superiors.

Nrrr posted...

Fun fact about the us military:
A man who was photographed with "communism will win" in his west point graduation hat was given an "other than honorable discharge", meaning no vet benefits and extremely poor job prospects, and called a threat to national security by Marco Rubio

1/3 members of the US military say they personally work with someone they would call a white supremacist, and an avowed Nazi was punished but not discharged when this information was brought to his superiors.

Little known fact: Congress wrote in a specific exception in the Civil Rights Act, saying that nothing in the act shall be construed to forbid discrimination based on affiliation with the Communist Party.
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Nrrr posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

This seems kind of dumb.

It wasn't a confederate flag, or something like that. It was our countries first flag.

Did you know that our countries first flag represents a time where black people were considered property?

Very easy to see why kap would not love it!

He has every right not to love it, just as he's expressed that he does not love our anthem, which dates to the same era. And he can stop appearing in Nike ads if he wants.
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Did you guys really expect someone to be found guilty of murder when the main witness changed their story and said they actually killed the person?
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Corrik7 posted...

Did you guys really expect someone to be found guilty of murder when the main witness changed their story and said they actually killed the person?

The main witness said yeah he stabbed him in the chest, but I choked him out so hed die quickly.

Not really exoneration.
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The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Anytime the main prosecution witness changes their story the defendant is probably getting off.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1146169712109166592

Gross

Just sticking with historical precedent re: our soldiers being absolutely evil.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Did you guys really expect someone to be found guilty of murder when the main witness changed their story and said they actually killed the person?

The main witness said yeah he stabbed him in the chest, but I choked him out so hed die quickly.

Not really exoneration.

"Special Operator First Class Corey Scott, a SEAL medic, said that he saw Gallagher pull out his knife and stab the prisoner under his collar bone at least once.
On cross-examination, Scott told the defense that he never saw any blood after the stabbing. That's when Scott claimed he caused the prisoner's death by holding his thumb over his trachea tube until he suffocated.

Scott described the killing as an act of mercy because he was concerned the boy -- a prisoner of the Iraqi forces -- would be tortured by the Iraqis."

He stabbed him but no blood at all so I suffocated him because I was concerned Iraqis might torture him.

I am seriously concerned you guys don't even look into things when posting your hot takes.

Zero chance he gets prosecuted after that testimony.
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Corrik7 posted...

I am seriously concerned you guys don't even look into things when posting your hot takes.

No youre right, stabbing someone under the collarbone at least once regularly produces no blood at all.

Lets also ignore the other witnesses who testified that they saw the stabbing and subsequent death.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/451313-trump-describes-homelessness-in-cities-as-phenomena-that-started-two

Trumps dementia is getting really bad, not only does he somehow think homelessness started just 2 years ago, he also felt the need to point that out when hes been President for longer than that.
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I don't know the details of this case or which of these statements is applicable but:

--One witness with an inconsistent story should not be enough evidence to convict someone for murder

--In the presence of other damning evidence, whether or not one witness has an inconsistent story should not matter much at all.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

No youre right, stabbing someone under the collarbone at least once regularly produces no blood at all.

Lets also ignore the other witnesses who testified that they saw the stabbing and subsequent death.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/06/30/politics/eddie-gallagher-navy-seal-trial/index.html

You are like making stuff up.

There is no corroboration of how he died. No autopsy. The entire case was predicated on the testimony of the witness who changed his story.

There were other witnesses that said he fired at noncombatants but his spotter called out his shots and they agreed it was a good target in a high stress situation.

How can it be premeditated murder if the medic outright said he killed him. And not because he was "helping him die quickly" but because he was concerned that when captured he would be tortured.

That presumes the person would have lived and been captured after.

"NCIS reported that a second class petty officer also saw Gallagher stab the prisoner, but later internal messages shared between defense attorneys and Navy officials appear to indicate that he thought the chief sank his knife into the detainees torso and the boy already had died.

So he stabbed a corpse."

"The sniper whos now a civilian claimed he saw Gallagher shoot an elderly man in his 70s or 80s on Fathers Day, 18 June 2017, a shooting backed up by a first class petty officer now assigned to Naval Special Warfare Development Group often called DEVGRU or SEAL Team 6, according to NCIS records.

Both are expected to testify that it was clear the man was a noncombatant and they made the decision not to shoot, according to a filing provided to defense attorneys.

Another SEAL told investigators that he saw Gallagher shoot the elderly man in the back and watched him drop to the ground and saw blood on his back, but its unclear if hell testify.

Another sniper who also has indicated he might not testify later told prosecutors that he saw an old man go down, but he didnt see Gallagher shoot him, according to emails to prosecutors provided to Navy Times."

^ This is the person his spotter called out and they agreed was a combatant, maybe erroneously in a high combat situation.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/04/22/what-motivated-fellow-seals-to-dime-out-eddie-gallagher/

The main evidence was the testimony of this lead witness, as no body or other proof existed. He flipped his story.

Everything else is conflicting testimonies that cannot be verified and contradict themselves at times between witnesses, in regards to other events.

How were you ever going to prove this case without that testimony? To be honest, the case was hard to prove even with the testimony and would have come down to those deciding it.
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Other SEALs who served alongside Gallagher testified they saw Gallagher stab the ISIS fighter. SEAL Special Operations Chief Craig Miller testified he saw Gallagher stab the prisoner "on the right side of his neck, toward the jugular vein."

Stop being Corrik, Corrik
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https://www.thenation.com/article/honduras-dictatorship-refugee-crisis-immigration/

Good article that sort of highlights something that is usually lost in the immigration debate - much of the reason these immigrants are coming to the US is because of US backed regimes creating environments that cause people to flee. I don't suspect this would change the mind of anyone who loves our concentration camps, but it certainly highlights the fact that one step in a progressive immigration policy must be a change in our foreign policy (and also addressing climate change)

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Lets also ignore the other witnesses who testified that they saw the stabbing and subsequent death.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Other SEALs who served alongside Gallagher testified they saw Gallagher stab the ISIS fighter. SEAL Special Operations Chief Craig Miller testified he saw Gallagher stab the prisoner "on the right side of his neck, toward the jugular vein."

Stop being Corrik, Corrik

There was 3 main witnesses regarding it.

1. Craig Miller who said he cut him around his jugular. He was found to be inconsistent and hazy on all other details the day.

2. Corey Scott who said he actually killed the person and not Gallagher and all the wounds were not life threatening. Flipping his story.

3. A third unnamed seal who was later not called after Corey Scott's admission who was to testify Gallagher stabbed a dead corpse and not a live person.

"Seven SEALs, including two who said they witnessed the act, accused Gallagher of repeatedly stabbing an injured teenage ISIS fighter in the neck and body while other members of the team were treating his wounds in May of 2017. He then allegedly posed in front of the corpse as part of a reenlistment ceremony."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-seal-edward-gallagher-trial-found-not-guilty-murder-isis-fighter-today-2019-07-02/

Who are all these other witnesses? 1 witness said he stabbed him in the jugular. 1 was to say he stabbed a dead corpse. 1 said he stabbed him but there was no blood and nothing was life threatening and that he himself had killed the person (under immunity).

Again. Ignoring what?

You are literally arguing in a case with no physical evidence that you should accept the account of a person who cannot verify many details about the day over two other witnesses who said he didn't kill the person, including one who admitted he himself killed the person.

Like, what exactly sort of justice do you subscribe to? And, I get it. You can't just admit you are wrong so you say dumb things like "stop being Corrik" when you are flat out proven wrong with multiple sources.

You have shaky circumstantial evidence, no physical evidence, and witness accounts that all differ and the majority clear him of murder, let alone premeditated murder.
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