Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic #228 - Orbs you glad I didn't say banana?

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TheRock1525 07/01/19 4:07:25 PM #203:	Crossing the border is literally a misdemeanor. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:924106679] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>Crossing the border is literally a misdemeanor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:07:31 PM #204:	Xeybozn posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... And if the conditions were really that terrible, then it would only encourage migrants to stop crossing the border. That would only work if the administration was public about how terribly they treat illegal immigrants. Considering they seem to be trying to cover up the truth about living conditions in these facilities, that doesn't seem to be their main goal. With tens of thousands of detainees and members of Congress visiting, you'd think there would be one shred of evidence to support these awful conditions. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924106686] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xeybozn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>And if the conditions were really that terrible, then it would only encourage migrants to stop crossing the border.</quote> That would only work if the administration was public about how terribly they treat illegal immigrants. Considering they seem to be trying to cover up the truth about living conditions in these facilities, that doesn't seem to be their main goal.</quote> With tens of thousands of detainees and members of Congress visiting, you'd think there would be one shred of evidence to support these awful conditions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:07:51 PM #205:	TheRock1525 posted... Crossing the border is literally a misdemeanor. misdemeanors aren't crimes? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924106701] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Crossing the border is literally a misdemeanor.</quote> misdemeanors aren't crimes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/01/19 4:09:06 PM #206:	I'm sure if you speed you'd like to be locked up in a room with 80 other people meant for 12. That's proportional punishment. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:924106754] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure if you speed you'd like to be locked up in a room with 80 other people meant for 12. That's proportional punishment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:09:22 PM #207:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... You seem really mad Seph Have to pay for another abortion? Cool unrelated ad hominem! Im honestly asking. You seem really defensive --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924106760] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>You seem really mad Seph Have to pay for another abortion?</quote> Cool unrelated ad hominem!</quote> Im honestly asking. You seem really defensive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:10:22 PM #208:	Paying for an abortion would make me happy though --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924106804] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>Paying for an abortion would make me happy though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:12:06 PM #209:	TheRock1525 posted... I'm sure if you speed you'd like to be locked up in a room with 80 other people meant for 12. That's proportional punishment. 1. Speeding isn't a misdemeanor 2. If you don't jail/deport someone for hopping the border, you are essentially allowing anyone to cross 3. It seems like pretty good incentive to stay in Mexico if you don't want to risk this "disproportional" punishment --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924106881] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sure if you speed you'd like to be locked up in a room with 80 other people meant for 12. That's proportional punishment.</quote> 1. Speeding isn't a misdemeanor 2. If you don't jail/deport someone for hopping the border, you are essentially allowing anyone to cross 3. It seems like pretty good incentive to stay in Mexico if you don't want to risk this "disproportional" punishment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:12:30 PM #210:	Like, your basic premise here is that we care about shifting voters more than anything else and thats just a false premise from the start Our main goal here is to get these people out of detention centers and into America as residents --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924106901] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>Like, your basic premise here is that we care about shifting voters more than anything else and thats just a false premise from the start Our main goal here is to get these people out of detention centers and into America as residents</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:14:13 PM #211:	Jakyl25 posted... Like, your basic premise here is that we care about shifting voters more than anything else and thats just a false premise from the start Our main goal here is to get these people out of detention centers and into America as residents That's very noble of you. Just know that if this is your intended goal, Donald Trump will be re-elected and continue these policies. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924106965] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Like, your basic premise here is that we care about shifting voters more than anything else and thats just a false premise from the start Our main goal here is to get these people out of detention centers and into America as residents</quote> That's very noble of you. Just know that if this is your intended goal, Donald Trump will be re-elected and continue these policies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 07/01/19 4:14:26 PM #212:	Jakyl25 posted... Like, your basic premise here is that we care about shifting voters more than anything else and thats just a false premise from the start Our main goal here is to get these people out of detention centers and into America as residents Only if we admit an equal number from Russia and North Korea to vote Republican. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:924106972] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Like, your basic premise here is that we care about shifting voters more than anything else and thats just a false premise from the start Our main goal here is to get these people out of detention centers and into America as residents</quote> Only if we admit an equal number from Russia and North Korea to vote Republican.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/01/19 4:16:13 PM #213:	Nelson_Mandela posted... 1. Speeding isn't a misdemeanor Speeding absolutely is a misdemeanor in several states. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:924107053] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>1. Speeding isn't a misdemeanor </quote> Speeding absolutely is a misdemeanor in several states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:16:57 PM #214:	Dude Im sure youre well aware that some of these policies were used by Obama. You cant trust any of these assholes --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107090] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>Dude Im sure youre well aware that some of these policies were used by Obama. You cant trust any of these assholes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:18:07 PM #215:	red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Like, your basic premise here is that we care about shifting voters more than anything else and thats just a false premise from the start Our main goal here is to get these people out of detention centers and into America as residents Only if we admit an equal number from Russia and North Korea to vote Republican. Let them come if they want to make the trip! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107139] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Like, your basic premise here is that we care about shifting voters more than anything else and thats just a false premise from the start Our main goal here is to get these people out of detention centers and into America as residents</quote> Only if we admit an equal number from Russia and North Korea to vote Republican.</quote> Let them come if they want to make the trip!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/01/19 4:18:49 PM #216:	you can trust bernie. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:924107171] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>you can trust bernie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 07/01/19 4:19:12 PM #217:	Nelson_Mandela posted... 2. If you don't jail/deport someone for hopping the border, you are essentially allowing anyone to cross How it worked previously is that most people were released pending trial and then were deported if found guilty. The vast majority of people showed up to court, and we didn't have to have any abhorent policy of routinely separating families. Reentry was (and still is) a felony. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:924107188] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>2. If you don't jail/deport someone for hopping the border, you are essentially allowing anyone to cross</quote> How it worked previously is that most people were released pending trial and then were deported if found guilty. The vast majority of people showed up to court, and we didn't have to have any abhorent policy of routinely separating families. Reentry was (and still is) a felony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:20:11 PM #218:	Also I already fully expect Trump to win re-election, and then follow through on his Twitter threat to never abdicate power --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107242] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>Also I already fully expect Trump to win re-election, and then follow through on his Twitter threat to never abdicate power</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:21:24 PM #219:	LordoftheMorons posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... 2. If you don't jail/deport someone for hopping the border, you are essentially allowing anyone to cross How it worked previously is that most people were released pending trial and then were deported if found guilty. The vast majority of people showed up to court, and we didn't have to have any abhorent policy of routinely separating families. Reentry was (and still is) a felony. Didn't Obama change this policy to what it currently is? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924107303] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>2. If you don't jail/deport someone for hopping the border, you are essentially allowing anyone to cross</quote> How it worked previously is that most people were released pending trial and then were deported if found guilty. The vast majority of people showed up to court, and we didn't have to have any abhorent policy of routinely separating families. Reentry was (and still is) a felony.</quote> Didn't Obama change this policy to what it currently is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/01/19 4:22:08 PM #220:	Like SephG literally was for anyone who wants to come here should be allowed to come here because America is awesome and we want all these people to see how awesome we are to being ok with this because "owning the libs." The Trumpian turn is complete. All conservatives will embrace all the racist policies in the world as long as liberals don't like it. If Trump showed up in full KKK regalia they would start showing up to work wearing the same. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:924107336] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>Like SephG literally was for anyone who wants to come here should be allowed to come here because America is awesome and we want all these people to see how awesome we are to being ok with this because "owning the libs." The Trumpian turn is complete. All conservatives will embrace all the racist policies in the world as long as liberals don't like it. If Trump showed up in full KKK regalia they would start showing up to work wearing the same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:24:28 PM #221:	TheRock1525 posted... Like SephG literally was for anyone who wants to come here should be allowed to come here because America is awesome and we want all these people to see how awesome we are to being ok with this because "owning the libs." The Trumpian turn is complete. All conservatives will embrace all the racist policies in the world as long as liberals don't like it. If Trump showed up in full KKK regalia they would start showing up to work wearing the same. Ralph Northams already on it --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107447] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Like SephG literally was for anyone who wants to come here should be allowed to come here because America is awesome and we want all these people to see how awesome we are to being ok with this because "owning the libs." The Trumpian turn is complete. All conservatives will embrace all the racist policies in the world as long as liberals don't like it. If Trump showed up in full KKK regalia they would start showing up to work wearing the same.</quote> Ralph Northams already on it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 07/01/19 4:25:41 PM #222:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Didn't Obama change this policy to what it currently is? No, Jeff Sessions switched to family separation as the default explicitly as a deterrent. Under Obama most people were released pending trial. Obviously, in addition to being extremely inhumane, the deterrent did not work (in fact, a contributing factor to the surge of border crossings is the fear that it wouls soon become even harder to get in due to Trump). --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:924107491] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't Obama change this policy to what it currently is?</quote> No, Jeff Sessions switched to family separation as the default explicitly as a deterrent. Under Obama most people were released pending trial. Obviously, in addition to being extremely inhumane, the deterrent did not work (in fact, a contributing factor to the surge of border crossings is the fear that it wouls soon become even harder to get in due to Trump).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 07/01/19 4:26:51 PM #223:	LordoftheMorons posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... 2. If you don't jail/deport someone for hopping the border, you are essentially allowing anyone to cross How it worked previously is that most people were released pending trial and then were deported if found guilty. The vast majority of people showed up to court, and we didn't have to have any abhorent policy of routinely separating families. Reentry was (and still is) a felony. This kind of policy is how we got to 11 million people in the country illegally in the first place. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:924107535] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>2. If you don't jail/deport someone for hopping the border, you are essentially allowing anyone to cross</quote> How it worked previously is that most people were released pending trial and then were deported if found guilty. The vast majority of people showed up to court, and we didn't have to have any abhorent policy of routinely separating families. Reentry was (and still is) a felony.</quote> This kind of policy is how we got to 11 million people in the country illegally in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:27:29 PM #224:	TheRock1525 posted... Like SephG literally was for anyone who wants to come here should be allowed to come here because America is awesome and we want all these people to see how awesome we are to being ok with this because "owning the libs." The Trumpian turn is complete. All conservatives will embrace all the racist policies in the world as long as liberals don't like it. If Trump showed up in full KKK regalia they would start showing up to work wearing the same. Nah I think you're misunderstanding my philosophy here. I am PRO immigration. I think the laws should be changed to allow for most people to come in without any bureaucratic red tape, and for minimum wage laws to be abolished so they can work at whatever market value they choose to work for. If they can do the jobs of Americans for less money, then go ahead. And yes, I understand that this would be a completely unpopular position if I were a politician. I am ANTI law breaking. Until the immigration laws are changed, you have to enforce the border policy. And at the scale by which the laws are broken, I am fine with extreme measures taken until Congress can actually change the law. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924107551] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Like SephG literally was for anyone who wants to come here should be allowed to come here because America is awesome and we want all these people to see how awesome we are to being ok with this because "owning the libs." The Trumpian turn is complete. All conservatives will embrace all the racist policies in the world as long as liberals don't like it. If Trump showed up in full KKK regalia they would start showing up to work wearing the same.</quote> Nah I think you're misunderstanding my philosophy here. I am PRO immigration. I think the laws should be changed to allow for most people to come in without any bureaucratic red tape, and for minimum wage laws to be abolished so they can work at whatever market value they choose to work for. If they can do the jobs of Americans for less money, then go ahead. And yes, I understand that this would be a completely unpopular position if I were a politician. I am ANTI law breaking. Until the immigration laws are changed, you have to enforce the border policy. And at the scale by which the laws are broken, I am fine with extreme measures taken until Congress can actually change the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:27:33 PM #225:	Yeah when the Mayflower showed up --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107556] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>Yeah when the Mayflower showed up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:28:33 PM #226:	Nelson_Mandela posted... I am ANTI law breaking. lol --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107602] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I am ANTI law breaking.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:29:39 PM #227:	It's also the same reason why I want DEA agents to go absolute scorched earth on marijuana producers/distributors in states where it is "legal" (even medical marijuana). Maybe if they arrest a couple of dozen terminally ill cancer patients, Congress can just fucking deschedule it already. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924107640] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>It's also the same reason why I want DEA agents to go absolute scorched earth on marijuana producers/distributors in states where it is "legal" (even medical marijuana). Maybe if they arrest a couple of dozen terminally ill cancer patients, Congress can just fucking deschedule it already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/01/19 4:30:01 PM #228:	Nelson_Mandela posted... I am PRO immigration. I think the laws should be changed to allow for most people to come in without any bureaucratic red tape, and for minimum wage laws to be abolished so they can work at whatever market value they choose to work for. If they can do the jobs of Americans for less money, then go ahead. And yes, I understand that this would be a completely unpopular position if I were a politician. And yet you completely embrace Trump, who wants to make even legal immigration much much harder. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:924107659] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I am PRO immigration. I think the laws should be changed to allow for most people to come in without any bureaucratic red tape, and for minimum wage laws to be abolished so they can work at whatever market value they choose to work for. If they can do the jobs of Americans for less money, then go ahead. And yes, I understand that this would be a completely unpopular position if I were a politician.</quote> And yet you completely embrace Trump, who wants to make even legal immigration much much harder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/01/19 4:30:39 PM #229:	Nelson_Mandela posted... It's also the same reason why I want DEA agents to go absolute scorched earth on marijuana producers/distributors in states where it is "legal" (even medical marijuana). Maybe if they arrest a couple of dozen terminally ill cancer patients, Congress can just fucking deschedule it already. "I want innocent people to suffer." --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:924107690] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>It's also the same reason why I want DEA agents to go absolute scorched earth on marijuana producers/distributors in states where it is "legal" (even medical marijuana). Maybe if they arrest a couple of dozen terminally ill cancer patients, Congress can just fucking deschedule it already.</quote> "I want innocent people to suffer."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:30:54 PM #230:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... I am PRO immigration. I think the laws should be changed to allow for most people to come in without any bureaucratic red tape, and for minimum wage laws to be abolished so they can work at whatever market value they choose to work for. If they can do the jobs of Americans for less money, then go ahead. And yes, I understand that this would be a completely unpopular position if I were a politician. And yet you completely embrace Trump, who wants to make even legal immigration much much harder. I don't agree with him in these goals. But we live in a republic, so I respect the will of the people. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924107697] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I am PRO immigration. I think the laws should be changed to allow for most people to come in without any bureaucratic red tape, and for minimum wage laws to be abolished so they can work at whatever market value they choose to work for. If they can do the jobs of Americans for less money, then go ahead. And yes, I understand that this would be a completely unpopular position if I were a politician.</quote> And yet you completely embrace Trump, who wants to make even legal immigration much much harder.</quote> I don't agree with him in these goals. But we live in a republic, so I respect the will of the people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:31:14 PM #231:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... It's also the same reason why I want DEA agents to go absolute scorched earth on marijuana producers/distributors in states where it is "legal" (even medical marijuana). Maybe if they arrest a couple of dozen terminally ill cancer patients, Congress can just fucking deschedule it already. "I want innocent people to suffer." They aren't innocent if they're breaking a federal law --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924107715] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>It's also the same reason why I want DEA agents to go absolute scorched earth on marijuana producers/distributors in states where it is "legal" (even medical marijuana). Maybe if they arrest a couple of dozen terminally ill cancer patients, Congress can just fucking deschedule it already.</quote> "I want innocent people to suffer."</quote> They aren't innocent if they're breaking a federal law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/01/19 4:34:12 PM #232:	Nelson_Mandela posted... But we live in a republic, so I respect the will of the people. The will of the people elected Obama to two terms and he was given a SC opening towards the end of his term. You sure as shit didn't care about the will of the people then. They elected him to serve until 2017. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:924107837] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>But we live in a republic, so I respect the will of the people. </quote> The will of the people elected Obama to two terms and he was given a SC opening towards the end of his term. You sure as shit didn't care about the will of the people then. They elected him to serve until 2017.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:34:14 PM #233:	You want people to suffer because you care more about procedure than practicality --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107838] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>You want people to suffer because you care more about procedure than practicality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/01/19 4:34:45 PM #234:	Nelson_Mandela posted... TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... It's also the same reason why I want DEA agents to go absolute scorched earth on marijuana producers/distributors in states where it is "legal" (even medical marijuana). Maybe if they arrest a couple of dozen terminally ill cancer patients, Congress can just fucking deschedule it already. "I want innocent people to suffer." They aren't innocent if they're breaking a federal law "I want cancer patients to go to jail." There, more accurate for you? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:924107859] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>It's also the same reason why I want DEA agents to go absolute scorched earth on marijuana producers/distributors in states where it is "legal" (even medical marijuana). Maybe if they arrest a couple of dozen terminally ill cancer patients, Congress can just fucking deschedule it already.</quote> "I want innocent people to suffer."</quote> They aren't innocent if they're breaking a federal law</quote> "I want cancer patients to go to jail." There, more accurate for you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:36:08 PM #235:	Jakyl25 posted... You want people to suffer because you care more about procedure than practicality Isn't there a D&D thing that describes this? I am pro-democracy. If laws can just be willfully ignored, then why have them in the first place? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924107917] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>You want people to suffer because you care more about procedure than practicality</quote> Isn't there a D&D thing that describes this? I am pro-democracy. If laws can just be willfully ignored, then why have them in the first place?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:36:25 PM #236:	I bet Seph would be totally understanding if we enacted hate speech legislation like the U.K. and wish punishment on all perpetrators --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107925] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>I bet Seph would be totally understanding if we enacted hate speech legislation like the U.K. and wish punishment on all perpetrators</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:37:23 PM #237:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... You want people to suffer because you care more about procedure than practicality Isn't there a D&D thing that describes this? I am pro-democracy. If laws can just be willfully ignored, then why have them in the first place? Yes, youve turned into lawful neutral Corrik And yes, youve just exposed why the ultimate goal of any political system should be anarchy --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924107977] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>You want people to suffer because you care more about procedure than practicality</quote> Isn't there a D&D thing that describes this? I am pro-democracy. If laws can just be willfully ignored, then why have them in the first place?</quote> Yes, youve turned into lawful neutral Corrik And yes, youve just exposed why the ultimate goal of any political system should be anarchy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:37:41 PM #238:	Jakyl25 posted... I bet Seph would be totally understanding if we enacted hate speech legislation like the U.K. and wish punishment on all perpetrators Nah, because that violates the Constitution and natural rights. I am a pretty simple man, you can understand my positions pretty easily. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924107991] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>I bet Seph would be totally understanding if we enacted hate speech legislation like the U.K. and wish punishment on all perpetrators</quote> Nah, because that violates the Constitution and natural rights. I am a pretty simple man, you can understand my positions pretty easily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:38:23 PM #239:	Also are you pro-Democracy or pro-Republic? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924108024] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>Also are you pro-Democracy or pro-Republic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 07/01/19 4:38:40 PM #240:	I posted this a few topics ago when the report came out, but it gained no traction here. Since it's the topic of conversation again now, figure I'll repost it since it's relevant. DHS-OIG Report from June 3rd: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-06/OIG-19-47-Jun19.pdf PDF is 28 pages but summarizing some of what they found: They inspected 4 ICE sites. -Nooses in cells -All 4 facilities had issues with expired food; including spoiled and moldy food. -3 facilities used segregation practices that violated standards and infringed on the the rights of the detainees -2 facilities failed to provide recreation outside of housing units -2 facilities had dilapidated and moldy bathrooms -1 facility did not provide appropriate clothing and hygiene items -1 facility only allowed non-contact visits despite being able to accommodate in-person visits And again this is coming from the administration on an inspection of 4 sites. Edit: And as the report notes, ICE detainees are held in civil, not criminal, custody. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:924108036] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>I posted this a few topics ago when the report came out, but it gained no traction here. Since it's the topic of conversation again now, figure I'll repost it since it's relevant. DHS-OIG Report from June 3rd: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-06/OIG-19-47-Jun19.pdf PDF is 28 pages but summarizing some of what they found: They inspected 4 ICE sites. -Nooses in cells -All 4 facilities had issues with expired food; including spoiled and moldy food. -3 facilities used segregation practices that violated standards and infringed on the the rights of the detainees -2 facilities failed to provide recreation outside of housing units -2 facilities had dilapidated and moldy bathrooms -1 facility did not provide appropriate clothing and hygiene items -1 facility only allowed non-contact visits despite being able to accommodate in-person visits And again this is coming from the administration on an inspection of 4 sites. Edit: And as the report notes, ICE detainees are held in civil, not criminal, custody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/01/19 4:39:13 PM #241:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6cyDsuNx_U" data-time=" --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:924108060] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6cyDsuNx_U" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:39:30 PM #242:	I think states neutering the US Congress is extremely dangerous for the long-term health of our republic. Which is why I wish Congress would pass fewer federal laws rather than pass bad laws that can be constantly undermined. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924108074] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>I think states neutering the US Congress is extremely dangerous for the long-term health of our republic. Which is why I wish Congress would pass fewer federal laws rather than pass bad laws that can be constantly undermined.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:40:13 PM #243:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... I bet Seph would be totally understanding if we enacted hate speech legislation like the U.K. and wish punishment on all perpetrators Nah, because that violates the Constitution and natural rights. I am a pretty simple man, you can understand my positions pretty easily. Ive never been able to understand the political positions of anyone who believes that natural rights exist That includes the Founding Fathers --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924108105] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>I bet Seph would be totally understanding if we enacted hate speech legislation like the U.K. and wish punishment on all perpetrators</quote> Nah, because that violates the Constitution and natural rights. I am a pretty simple man, you can understand my positions pretty easily.</quote> Ive never been able to understand the political positions of anyone who believes that natural rights exist That includes the Founding Fathers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:40:51 PM #244:	Jakyl25 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... I bet Seph would be totally understanding if we enacted hate speech legislation like the U.K. and wish punishment on all perpetrators Nah, because that violates the Constitution and natural rights. I am a pretty simple man, you can understand my positions pretty easily. Ive never been able to understand the political positions of anyone who believes that natural rights exist That includes the Founding Fathers Well, this is why I am the "mainstream conservative" of this board. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924108133] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>I bet Seph would be totally understanding if we enacted hate speech legislation like the U.K. and wish punishment on all perpetrators</quote> Nah, because that violates the Constitution and natural rights. I am a pretty simple man, you can understand my positions pretty easily.</quote> Ive never been able to understand the political positions of anyone who believes that natural rights exist That includes the Founding Fathers</quote> Well, this is why I am the "mainstream conservative" of this board.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/01/19 4:41:02 PM #245:	Nelson_Mandela posted... I think states neutering the US Congress is extremely dangerous for the long-term health of our republic. Which is why I wish Congress would pass fewer federal laws rather than pass bad laws that can be constantly undermined. Do you care more about the republic or the people that make up the republic? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924108146] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I think states neutering the US Congress is extremely dangerous for the long-term health of our republic. Which is why I wish Congress would pass fewer federal laws rather than pass bad laws that can be constantly undermined.</quote> Do you care more about the republic or the people that make up the republic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 07/01/19 4:41:27 PM #246:	xp1337 posted... I posted this a few topics ago when the report came out, but it gained no traction here. Since it's the topic of conversation again now, figure I'll repost it since it's relevant. Yeah I saw this when you posted it initially. I was thoroughly disgusted, but also thoroughly unsurprised so I just didn't say anything <_< <cite>Reg posted [p:924108162] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>I posted this a few topics ago when the report came out, but it gained no traction here. Since it's the topic of conversation again now, figure I'll repost it since it's relevant.</quote> Yeah I saw this when you posted it initially. I was thoroughly disgusted, but also thoroughly unsurprised so I just didn't say anything <_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/01/19 4:46:59 PM #247:	Jakyl25 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... I think states neutering the US Congress is extremely dangerous for the long-term health of our republic. Which is why I wish Congress would pass fewer federal laws rather than pass bad laws that can be constantly undermined. Do you care more about the republic or the people that make up the republic? The republic --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:924108427] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I think states neutering the US Congress is extremely dangerous for the long-term health of our republic. Which is why I wish Congress would pass fewer federal laws rather than pass bad laws that can be constantly undermined.</quote> Do you care more about the republic or the people that make up the republic?</quote> The republic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 07/01/19 4:50:15 PM #248:	Reg posted... xp1337 posted... I posted this a few topics ago when the report came out, but it gained no traction here. Since it's the topic of conversation again now, figure I'll repost it since it's relevant. Yeah I saw this when you posted it initially. I was thoroughly disgusted, but also thoroughly unsurprised so I just didn't say anything <_< That's understandable. To me, it was more that the government itself was admitting this. We've obviously had the reports from lawyers, doctors, media, and members of Congress long before this so it isn't really "new" per se. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:924108547] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>I posted this a few topics ago when the report came out, but it gained no traction here. Since it's the topic of conversation again now, figure I'll repost it since it's relevant.</quote> Yeah I saw this when you posted it initially. I was thoroughly disgusted, but also thoroughly unsurprised so I just didn't say anything <_<</quote> That's understandable. To me, it was more that the government itself was admitting this. We've obviously had the reports from lawyers, doctors, media, and members of Congress long before this so it isn't really "new" per se.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 07/01/19 4:56:10 PM #249:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... I think states neutering the US Congress is extremely dangerous for the long-term health of our republic. Which is why I wish Congress would pass fewer federal laws rather than pass bad laws that can be constantly undermined. Do you care more about the republic or the people that make up the republic? The republic The republic. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:924108805] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I think states neutering the US Congress is extremely dangerous for the long-term health of our republic. Which is why I wish Congress would pass fewer federal laws rather than pass bad laws that can be constantly undermined.</quote> Do you care more about the republic or the people that make up the republic?</quote> The republic</quote> The republic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 07/01/19 4:59:46 PM #250:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... But we live in a republic, so I respect the will of the people. The will of the people elected Obama to two terms and he was given a SC opening towards the end of his term. You sure as shit didn't care about the will of the people then. They elected him to serve until 2017. They also elected Mitch McConnell and 53 Republican senators. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:924108944] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>But we live in a republic, so I respect the will of the people. </quote> The will of the people elected Obama to two terms and he was given a SC opening towards the end of his term. You sure as shit didn't care about the will of the people then. They elected him to serve until 2017.</quote> They also elected Mitch McConnell and 53 Republican senators.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 07/01/19 5:05:14 PM #251:	woah latest post-debate poll is a huge shakeup -- biiig Biden drop & Harris jump https://twitter.com/DavidWright_CNN/status/1145784155478863872 gimme more of this biden crash straight into my veinsss --- https://imgtc.com/i/1LkkaGU.jpg somethin somethin hung somethin horse somethin <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:924109214] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>woah latest post-debate poll is a huge shakeup -- biiig Biden drop & Harris jump https://twitter.com/DavidWright_CNN/status/1145784155478863872 gimme more of this biden crash straight into my veinsss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 07/01/19 5:09:09 PM #252:	whoa faster than i expected Though still need to see more to determine this isn't an outlier (though IIRC there was another poll showing a not-quite-as-steep drop as well, also with Harris benefiting over the weekend) --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:924109360] in Politics C... [t:77826040]...</cite> <quote>whoa faster than i expected Though still need to see more to determine this isn't an outlier (though IIRC there was another poll showing a not-quite-as-steep drop as well, also with Harris benefiting over the weekend)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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