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Corrik7 posted...

5tarscream has played at least double digits games on this forum. What in the literal fuck

when was the last game he played if so:?

because i just checked every game i could for the last year and hes not been in any.
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Ive literally played like 3 games ever I dunno where you get these numbers Corrik

One on GnT board.
The animaniacs one where I was Elmira town hugger and got b8 speciald day 1.
This one.

corrik caught bs'ing again.

(He was a big propagator that b8 neighbors are usually scum last game).
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Heading out now.

I am pretty sure that is wrong, but I ain't going back to look. So whatevs I guess. I have played with you many times I am pretty damn sure and when I pointed out to death you were 5tarscream and not 5tar he agreed also and said he didn't notice your entire name.
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red13n posted...

corrik caught bs'ing again.

(He was a big propagator that b8 neighbors are usually scum last game).

Link that comment btw.
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Corrik7 posted...

I am pretty sure that is wrong, but I ain't going back to look. So whatevs I guess. I have played with you many times I am pretty damn sure and when I pointed out to death you were 5tarscream and not 5tar he agreed also and said he didn't notice your entire name.

And this was literally day 1.
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Corrik7 posted...

Link that comment btw.

possible i lumped you in with the rest of the scumteam. I'll check and see if i can verify.
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red13n posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Link that comment btw.

possible i lumped you in with the rest of the scumteam. I'll check and see if i can verify.

Pretty sure I said neighbors is an alignment obscuring role and that it didn't exist with miller (which it didn't cuz Ulti was scum). I remember I fed yinz correct info.
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Town-town neighbors with with miller I said didn't exist.
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Corrik7 posted...

Pretty sure I said neighbors is an alignment obscuring role and that it didn't exist with miller (which it didn't cuz Ulti was scum). I remember I fed yinz correct info.

might be right. Either way its disingenuous. Especially since the correct statement is "b8 neighbor is usually town".
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red13n posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Pretty sure I said neighbors is an alignment obscuring role and that it didn't exist with miller (which it didn't cuz Ulti was scum). I remember I fed yinz correct info.

might be right. Either way its disingenuous. Especially since the correct statement is "b8 neighbor is usually town".

I didn't say they couldn't be town town. I said they couldn't be town town if miller was town. It's 3 town alignment obscuring roles.
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And I told yinz if u had Ulti as town, one of the neighbors was scum. Or if you had the neighbors as both town then Ulti was scum.

I am sure the literal neighbor puns in this game remembers.
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Ive been here ages so I assume death recognised my name through the Board not through my plethora of mafia experience. Its not important anyway just correcting you on how many games Ive played. I dont think it was a lie just a mistake

I am sure nothing you said about role meta in that game had any merit whatsoever because you were just spewing bullshit as informed scum. As I said in that game. Calling neighbors "alignment obscuring" is literally equivalent to calling town vanilla "alignment obscuring".

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

##Vote: Panth

Red putting in the work is enough to lynch Panth, enough so that if panth is town I will lynch red tomorrow.

He hasn't put in work. What?

There was work put in to convince me of Panth. It was enough to say, hey if this is a mislynch I'll lynch him next.
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Red, do you intend in this 24 hours to go back and read days 1 and 2 (mostly 1) and analyze the game or not
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turbopuns3 posted...

I am sure nothing you said about role meta in that game had any merit whatsoever because you were just spewing bullshit as informed scum. As I said in that game. Calling neighbors "alignment obscuring" is literally equivalent to calling town vanilla "alignment obscuring".

Disagree but whatever obviously we aren't gonna agree on it.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

##Vote: Panth

Red putting in the work is enough to lynch Panth, enough so that if panth is town I will lynch red tomorrow.

He hasn't put in work. What?

There was work put in to convince me of Panth. It was enough to say, hey if this is a mislynch I'll lynch him next.

Link me to the "work" he did.
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And also. If someone is so scummy you would lynch them tomorrow if they are wrong, why are you following their lynch anyways.

If you are gonna follow a lynch, I think it would be a lot better to follow a lynch where even if they are wrong I am still sure as fuck they are town regardless.

Though why ur trying to find lynches to follow instead of coming to your own decisions is beyond me as town.
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Newsflash: Town is uninformed. They aren't always right.

Why would red being wrong on Panth make him scum? Show me the logic of your statement as town.
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I can see thinking Red is town if he is right cuz I don't see him bussing here. But, explain to me why he is scum if he is wrong
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Why would neighbors say to keep that secret. I don't get it. One of them is definitely scum.

that was you corrik.
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red13n posted...

Why would neighbors say to keep that secret. I don't get it. One of them is definitely scum.

that was you corrik.

That is not what you said. And there is about 50 quotes of me saying what I said.
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yes, i was just about to post i realized I said specifically about the meta.
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I said they all 3 couldn't be town. I didn't say only one had to be scum (as in there could have been more than 1 scum in the 3).
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to get specific, i'm not sure you ever specifically said b8 neighbors are usually town/scum.

but you did at the very least attack the neighbors pretty hard. Which definitely goes against the notion that b8 should always go in assuming neighbors are town/town.

I will do due diligence and check the rest though.

Admittedly, I'm still really fucking salty at cam for last game for not listening to me about b8 neighbor meta.
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Blade and Dels both fake claimed neighbors as scum in Azures mafia game. Their ploy was that if one flipped scum the other would seem confirmed town.
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And you know who snuffed them out? Me. Though Chris rez killed one to take my glory.
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Corrik7 posted...

Blade and Dels both fake claimed neighbors as scum in Azures mafia game. Their ploy was that if one flipped scum the other would seem confirmed town.

Hey, don't make me re-state what I said last game. But I'll give you the short version. You don't lynch a neighbor without consent of the other neighbor unless you have good reason to think both neighbors are scum.
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I even cited this last game! Plus, I have been in one other game that had a town/scum neighbor pairing.

But, the point is. The roles specifically exist to make you think that they very well could be split. Just like miller is supposed to exist to make you think this person very well could be scum.

Alignment obscuring.

Just because miller is usually town and neighbors maybe be usually town-town doesn't change this.
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red13n posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Blade and Dels both fake claimed neighbors as scum in Azures mafia game. Their ploy was that if one flipped scum the other would seem confirmed town.

Hey, don't make me re-state what I said last game. But I'll give you the short version. You don't lynch a neighbor without consent of the other neighbor unless you have good reason to think both neighbors are scum.

And people didn't listen to you cuz the role by nature is alignment obscuring. It makes them think something just based upon the role itself existing.

*Shrug*
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Corrik7 posted...

I can see thinking Red is town if he is right cuz I don't see him bussing here. But, explain to me why he is scum if he is wrong

Man, I'm just rolling with how I feel about players and what I expect from them.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I can see thinking Red is town if he is right cuz I don't see him bussing here. But, explain to me why he is scum if he is wrong

Man, I'm just rolling with how I feel about players and what I expect from them.

So u expect red to never Lynch wrong ever as town?

Red what is your accuracy in lynching people forever in mafia? 100%?
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Like, red is either town or scum. Why is he scum only if he is wrong here? That seems like a hell of a way to lose a game if red is town and just wrong.

Also, did you confirm you were roleblocked yesterday? Who did u try to track?
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How much did eaed and Tom attack red day 1? I am curious because I would assume his scummates wouldn't have attacked him with any real effort with knowing he was on vacation.
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Corrik7 posted...

Red what is your accuracy in lynching people forever in mafia? 100%?

it is 100% in my mind, sure. I'm going to say its way above average though.
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Ulti is a wild card. That wouldn't apply to him. I stand by Ulti looked scummy as fuck regarding the day 1 lynch, especially with red possibly scum.
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Corrik7 posted...

Like, red is either town or scum. Why is he scum only if he is wrong here? That seems like a hell of a way to lose a game if red is town and just wrong.

Also, did you confirm you were roleblocked yesterday? Who did u try to track?

I tried to track Panth and yes I was roleblocked.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Like, red is either town or scum. Why is he scum only if he is wrong here? That seems like a hell of a way to lose a game if red is town and just wrong.

Also, did you confirm you were roleblocked yesterday? Who did u try to track?

I tried to track Panth and yes I was roleblocked.

Thanks.
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MZero11 posted...

IGCD what was your action last night?

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I waited a whole day just to get ninja'd >_>
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k i did overreach my language saying you attacked the meta specifically. But you did spend a good chunk of the game calling Sultan(A neighbor) scum which contributed to cam running with his neighbor has to be scum argument.
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red13n posted...

k i did overreach my language saying you attacked the meta specifically. But you did spend a good chunk of the game calling Sultan(A neighbor) scum which contributed to cam running with his neighbor has to be scum argument.

Red, let's assume me and you are town. Explain why puns is town.
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Panth, why 5tar and not red or puns?
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red13n posted...

This is part of where my faith in both you and mzero was lost btw. Because you both bought into the dumb "ulti did this last game"(He didnt) and didn't have much(any) of a reaction when I flat out told you that it wasn't the case.

I bought into initially because there was nothing to contradict it. After you said otherwise, I thought about it but with you and Corrik saying different things, I had to go with Corrik being the guy I trusted more to be town and my own knowledge that Ulti is a bit more fond than most scum players of killing players over killing roles. The exact specifics of the last game were less important than thinking about what might be going on in this one, and Corrik's point about Ulti has some merit to it even if the example he gave might not have been a perfect comparison (which again, I don't know with certainty because I didn't play in that game).

5tarscream posted...

I didnt dismiss the flavour angle at all in any way. I was asking what people thought about it and Corrie dismisses it then said oh actually my flavour does have something to do with me. Im not saying the characters are matched to people Im saying the flavour attached at least seems to have some sort of tenuous link to the player.

What flavour was I "supposed" to have? And what makes No Way Jose the perfect only possible flavour you could have ever been assigned?

Your argument is literally that Sultan rigged the game in town's favour by giving people flavours that match them to ensure that scum is auto-fucked the moment they claim because the safelist won't be catered to them in particular. It's dumb.

Corrik7 posted...

Panth, why 5tar and not red or puns?

I think he's the most likely. His thought process has just never added up as town, whether it was his twisted logic on suspecting Scare even though he was saying he'd changed his mind on the reason why (thinking Death was scum) or his selectively trying to paint himself as looking better by discussing his day 1 play while leaving out that he suspected Death and Scare and saying that the main people to attack him all game have been scum as a point against me while neglecting to mention that the person who first attacked him and did so the most on day 1 was Scare, to this garbage flavour crap that just doesn't work as a way of trying to figure out who is scum and who isn't.

Red I can at least see the argument that he left his vote on Tom day 1 and his day 3 play could have come from a town perspective even if I suspect it didn't. Puns is more on my radar from PoE than anything else, I can't feel confident in him being town but he's the least likely of these three.. The odds of them being town are higher than 5tar. I just struggle to see the case for him being town here.
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Corrik7 posted...

Red, let's assume me and you are town. Explain why puns is town.

Just, look at his line of questions yesterday. Hes a dude actively trying to figure out the game. I'll admit, if you actually flipped town, I'd get a lot more uncomfortable with the game state, but I think I still feel pretty comfortable feeling puns as town.

Its just if you look at the questions he asked yesterday, they are all looking for actual possibilities for the game rather than any self-serving interesting. I will admit I absolutely skim his scum iso post walls though. Those just bore me do death and make my brain shut off.
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Panthera posted...

The exact specifics of the last game were less important than thinking about what might be going on in this one, and Corrik's point about Ulti has some merit to it even if the example he gave might not have been a perfect comparison (which again, I don't know with certainty because I didn't play in that game).

I specifically mention corrik was twisting things to fit his narrative.

Why error on the side of corrik and not the people telling you corrik was outright lying?
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Also you say Star is most likely but then you should be well aware that the game doesn't end there. You don't seem to have anyone connected to him or any sort of backup after his lynch.

Nor you know, much concern that you got to -1 with multiple people still willing to kill you.
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