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red13n posted...

Ulti was absolutely a scum-supported lynch.

What is the point.

Like.

This was obvious.

Ulti felt his own town flip would be more helpful for town because it would remove him as a distraction to town.

I wonder if he's capable of evolving to the point where he's just not a distraction.

turbopuns3 posted...

Ulti felt his own town flip would be more helpful for town because it would remove him as a distraction to town.

I wonder if he's capable of evolving to the point where he's just not a distraction.

Red this was not directed at you, but at Ulti who is reading

turbopuns3 posted...

What is the point.

Like.

This was obvious.

Just reminding people. The last couple games have been plagued with people missing the obvious. Don't want people going crazy if I get killed.
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Red let's play a game.

Imagine you're scum with corrik right now.

What would scum red do in such a scenario. Assume you have zero influence on his behavior and he's just a wild buck of a teammate.

turbopuns3 posted...

Red let's play a game.

Imagine you're scum with corrik right now.

What would scum red do in such a scenario. Assume you have zero influence on his behavior and he's just a wild buck of a teammate.

two man team with wild corrik...hmm... We continue day as its going. Right now, we convince people 24 hours is enough lets lynch panth start the day tomorrow. Bicker, sucker people in to opposing lynches and someone will fall victim to his voodoo magic and lynch you with him(I hammer).
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Wow that got weirdly more specific than I was expecting.

Oh wait I see you meant you hammer because Corrik would vote right out the gate and just have to get a town to follow, so you hammer by necessity. Makes sense.

Correct. You've even got a new player that would be an easy corrik sucker.
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red13n posted...

Correct. You've even got a new player that would be an easy corrik sucker.

Ok now let's pretend you're scum with 5tar.

that? Thats a tough one.

I think I just ignore his existence and hope it plays out well.
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red13n posted...

that? Thats a tough one.

I think I just ignore his existence and hope it plays out well.

....

>___________>

you asked.

its the literal new player strat. hb ran with it his first game I believe. You let them play dumb and innocent and then bam, hammer when they least expect it.
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Hey don't tell me that. I was all for lynching Hb and not IGCD that day.

Point being.

...have you, uh, acknowledged 5tar's existence today

I'd be lying if I said I remembered a single thing hes done today.
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red13n posted...

hb ran with it his first game I believe.

Oh wait this isn't referring to last game is it

no its not. i think it was his first game he was scum in anyway.
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red13n posted...

I'd be lying if I said I remembered a single thing hes done today.

Well he's voted. So.

You're that comfortable writing him off?

turbopuns3 posted...

You're that comfortable writing him off?

comfortable is probably a bad word for it.
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red13n posted...

that? Thats a tough one.

red13n posted...

its the literal new player strat.

Doesn't sound too tough?

turbopuns3 posted...

Doesn't sound too tough?

well, it was tougher at the time in my head(on paper, it doesn't come out as well in the moment but I had to think about it).

With corrik, it'd be a very specific plan. With him, it'd be relying on a little bit of luck and not specific lynches.
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red13n posted...

With corrik, it'd be a very specific plan. With him, it'd be relying on a little bit of luck and not specific lynches.

Hmm.

Articulate why I'm town?

turbopuns3 posted...

Articulate why I'm town?

Er, no referencing the day 1 votes point I already made.

I didnt dismiss the flavour angle at all in any way. I was asking what people thought about it and Corrie dismisses it then said oh actually my flavour does have something to do with me. Im not saying the characters are matched to people Im saying the flavour attached at least seems to have some sort of tenuous link to the player.
I will say Im less inclined to puns being your scum buddy though. That means I guess the remaining scum is either Corrik or zero. My reservations about Corrik are that if he is scum gladiator then we dont have a godfather. Is that common? The team would be strongman, double vote, gladiator, roleblocker.

5tarscream posted...

Im not saying the characters are matched to people Im saying the flavour attached at least seems to have some sort of tenuous link to the player.

Uhhh...

turbopuns3 posted...

Articulate why I'm town?

I could probably go deeper but watching SE conference. Basically, you were digging in pretty hard yesterday. The effort was very much noticed. Ulti saw the same thing and basically reaffirmed my own thinking.

Got to pick a townclear to die on somewhere. If you are scum and win here good job.
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I mean Im not saying they are exactly like the people but SBells flavour specifically mentioning his kids, Ultis flavour being all about his ego and how he doesnt work well with others.

Red and puns. In your experience how often has a game had no godfather?

Not very often.
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So if you suspect Corrik as scum do you think he has multiple powers or do you think there are 3 scum left?

3 scum would be a little surprising. Multiple powers is not really off the wall for b8, though uncommon. Not necessarily ruling in godfather either(Miller is also foil for cop). Especially since Cop was killed first.
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And if you want evidence that its definitely at least a little unique in setup we already have it. We have double voter, strongman, assumed roleblocker, and then ???. That means at the very least no scumscanner or godfather, which have both been almost a given in b8 games.

So its hard to necessarily meta the setup.
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Panth what do you think my roll is if Im scum?

turbopuns3 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

And I think you would be godfather and red roleblocker specifically if that scenario is correct.

Ok

So red is roleblocker

Day 1 final votals was Sbell 4, red 3

Me and red both were voting the scum extra kill

In what world do we not ensure red the roleblocker lives, when SBell was super easy to vote, and instead park our votes on the extra kill on day 1

The mental gymnastics you'd have to go through to think that is the case as opposed to just going with the much simpler idea of us not being scum, is so high. Like it's borderline willful conspiracy theory to think red and I are scum together

Why did you have to? There was alrdy 2 scum on sbell. If someone unvotes red, you change your vote. You just didn't have to, plus Ulti all but said he was saving red at all costs if he had to also.

You seem to forget there was ALREADY 2 SCUM supporting that Lynch when red was the next highest lynch. Red also was questionably afk during the time anyways due to his vacation.

How many scum did you want on the top Lynch to save red?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

##Vote: Panth

Red putting in the work is enough to lynch Panth, enough so that if panth is town I will lynch red tomorrow.

He hasn't put in work. What?
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turbopuns3 posted...

Panthera posted...

I'm not seeing that it's airtight to assume scum would have just piled on there instead of watching to see if the 4-3 lead held up.

I guess you've never played with scum me.

I'd have jumped on SBell so fast to save red. Literally zero fucks given about looking scummy in that situation

You again didn't have to.
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red13n posted...

Just a simple voting intent breakdown for people to digest.

Ulti: Corrik, MZero, 5tar, Death Panth, IGCD
Corrik: Ulti, Red

puns ?

I'm going to reiterate this for everyone, unless you think the scumteam is red/puns (Spoilers we are both town), Ulti was absolutely a scum-supported lynch.

Death is dead. IGCD is confirmed town unless you really think we only have 1 scanner(Please dont go crazy and think this).

It's funny how when role meta doesn't support your conclusion it is preposterous or the hosting was bad and unchecked. But, when it does support your conclusion we should rely on role meta.

If you want to rely on role meta, I am town. Simple as that.
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turbopuns3 posted...

red13n posted...

Ulti was absolutely a scum-supported lynch.

What is the point.

Like.

This was obvious.

Town-town. Scum didn't care who was lynched. And ur the one who made the... I need to go get fresh air to think who I will vote blah blah nonsense.
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red13n posted...

you asked.

its the literal new player strat. hb ran with it his first game I believe. You let them play dumb and innocent and then bam, hammer when they least expect it.

5tarscream has played at least double digits games on this forum. What in the literal fuck
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5tarscream posted...

I didnt dismiss the flavour angle at all in any way. I was asking what people thought about it and Corrie dismisses it then said oh actually my flavour does have something to do with me. Im not saying the characters are matched to people Im saying the flavour attached at least seems to have some sort of tenuous link to the player.
I will say Im less inclined to puns being your scum buddy though. That means I guess the remaining scum is either Corrik or zero. My reservations about Corrik are that if he is scum gladiator then we dont have a godfather. Is that common? The team would be strongman, double vote, gladiator, roleblocker.

Your argument relies on the host fucking the game over completely. I mean, I see your angle, but I would like to not believe that is the case.
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red13n posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Articulate why I'm town?

I could probably go deeper but watching SE conference. Basically, you were digging in pretty hard yesterday. The effort was very much noticed. Ulti saw the same thing and basically reaffirmed my own thinking.

Got to pick a townclear to die on somewhere. If you are scum and win here good job.

You said scum would be demoralized. I didn't see a single demoralized player yesterday. Especially with it being a town-town lynch scenario. The argument is bullocks.
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Corrik7 posted...

And ur the one who made the... I need to go get fresh air to think who I will vote blah blah nonsense.

Seriously?

You're literally using Ulti's suicide to call me scum.

red13n posted...

And if you want evidence that its definitely at least a little unique in setup we already have it. We have double voter, strongman, assumed roleblocker, and then ???. That means at the very least no scumscanner or godfather, which have both been almost a given in b8 games.

So its hard to necessarily meta the setup.

Scum scanner a given? Ummmm yeah it's like 50/50 at best on that. Who was the scum scanner last game? Bad argument.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

And ur the one who made the... I need to go get fresh air to think who I will vote blah blah nonsense.

Seriously?

You're literally using Ulti's suicide to call me scum.

I am saying you were the only one who wasn't set on a side on a lynch that was town-town when scum wouldn't care who was lynched.
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Red read the game and analyze day 1 and 2. I told you I am giving you the time to do so and not pushing you to give you that time. Show me ur town if you are.

U are being lazy as fuck town phoning it in or scum. Show me ur town.
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Corrik7 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

And ur the one who made the... I need to go get fresh air to think who I will vote blah blah nonsense.

Seriously?

You're literally using Ulti's suicide to call me scum.

I am saying you were the only one who wasn't set on a side on a lynch that was town-town when scum wouldn't care who was lynched.

At the same time if he thought both were town and he was town he also wouldnt likely just jump on one like well it doesnt matter to me. Hes be trying to find out which one of the two town players is likely to be more useful going forward. I foolishly thought you might grow a little humble and try make up for your fuck up. I know Ulti can be a little unstable.

5tarscream posted...

Corrik7 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

And ur the one who made the... I need to go get fresh air to think who I will vote blah blah nonsense.

Seriously?

You're literally using Ulti's suicide to call me scum.

I am saying you were the only one who wasn't set on a side on a lynch that was town-town when scum wouldn't care who was lynched.

At the same time if he thought both were town and he was town he also wouldnt likely just jump on one like well it doesnt matter to me. Hes be trying to find out which one of the two town players is likely to be more useful going forward. I foolishly thought you might grow a little humble and try make up for your fuck up. I know Ulti can be a little unstable.

What?
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I am finding it quite funny that 5tar has not corrected people about not being new all game and is letting people say he is town due to it. Literally all game.
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