Board 8 > After 20 years, I'm finally going to play Ocarina of Time

(+) Yeah! (+)

Promise by Saturday
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Tomorrow
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I'll be interested to see your reactions to the remaining dungeons. They have great atmosphere, but the 3rd adult dungeon is very divisive.
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All of this in-game talk about the passage of time and remembering childhood is making me oddly emotional. Just realized that this is probably the last game I will play before I turn 30 in a few weeks...
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I have no idea how kids figured this shit out without a guide (in the forest temple right now)
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I have no idea how kids figured this shit out without a guide (in the forest temple right now)

Lol just wait
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Wait, are YOU using a guide?

Tsk tsk
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Sheik's theme, top 3 nostalgic track in gaming.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Sheik's theme, top 3 nostalgic track in gaming.

so fucking true

Nelson_Mandela posted...

All of this in-game talk about the passage of time and remembering childhood is making me oddly emotional. Just realized that this is probably the last game I will play before I turn 30 in a few weeks...

this topic is making me sad just picturing it

also the forest temple is so great aesthetically, probably my favorite part of the game
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Jakyl25 posted...

Wait, are YOU using a guide?

Tsk tsk

Yes, when I need it. Like how am I supposed to ever figure out that I need to shoot that eye 3 times to twist and untwist the hallway?!
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You hit it to twist and untwist as necessary

Its called experimenting. Its supposed to be a 40 hour game
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Jakyl25 posted...

You hit it to twist and untwist as necessary

Its called experimenting. Its supposed to be a 40 hour game

Yeah I get that. I've actually been struggling with this concept as I am playing... I'm sure the "true" experience of OoT and games like this is the problem-solving, exploration, and immersion. If it was 1998, I would sink 4 hours a night into it, every night, for a month until I discovered everything on my own.

The problem is that I don't have the time to do that anymore, so anytime I am stuck for too long, I use good ol' A l e x's guide. And if it's a choice between a slightly watered down experience and taking an entire year to beat because life gets in the way, I think I'm okay with the former. That's why the child/adult themes are super resonant for me at the moment!
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I would be very interested to see how you tackle Breath of the Wild

Its a good mix of guidance and exploration
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Jakyl25 posted...

I would be very interested to see how you tackle Breath of the Wild

Its a good mix of guidance and exploration

My understanding of BotW is that it's pretty sandbox-y. I'm generally not a completionist so I feel like I wouldn't bother with a guide on that one maybe.
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If I enter the next dungeon, save, and turn off the system, do I start back at the entrance or do I have to start at Hyrule Castle again?
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Yeah its very guided towards what you HAVE to do to finish the story, but the rest of the time its just a sandbox where you want to do quests and exploration to power up to be able to actually tackle the story tasks.
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You start in your treehouse if you save and quit as a kid.

You start in the Temple of Time or treehouse if you save and quit as an adult (you gotta save and quit in the treehouse to start in it as an adult).

If you save and quit in a dungeon, you start at the dungeon entrance.

Dungeon.
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Cool, gonna take a little break
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I wonder if anyone will ever do some kind of sociological study to see the difference between how kids who grew up with only an N64 turned out vs those who had only a PSX.
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that would be pretty interesting! in fact, i'd just like to know demographic information (as i assume that the results will mostly be influenced by that)
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I wonder if anyone will ever do some kind of sociological study to see the difference between how kids who grew up with only an N64 turned out vs those who had only a PSX.

They would have to do SNES vs Genesis first
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Wait, are you new to the series? If you are can't fault you for using a guide on some of the frustrating parts.
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When I was a kid, I caved in and bought the guide because I was stuck in Ice Cave. It was something really dumb, too, like I didn't have Fire Arrows to solve a puzzle.
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For those who had multiple like me, I wonder if the order means anything

Genesis - SNES - TurboGrafx
N64 - PS1
Dreamcast - PS2 - GameCube - Xbox
Wii - 360 - PS3
Wii U - PS4 - XBONE - Switch
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Nanis23 posted...

OliviaTremor posted...

I loved Ocarina of Time. I had never played a 3D Zelda besides Wind Waker, which I loved, and was pumped to play Majora's Mask 3D and Ocarina of Time 3D when I got a 3DS. Played Majora's first because I found a good deal on it and it was... fine. Good game, pretty tedious at parts, mediocre dungeons but an interesting world, didn't really get all the hype. Played Ocarina a couple months later when it went select and was super impressed. It really lived up to the hype.

Majora's is all about atmosphere IMO
In terms of gameplay it's inferior to OOT in almost every way

Really? I had the exact opposite experience. OoT has zero depth to the combat. I've done the 3 hearts challenge in OoT, it's easy cause you Z-target one enemy and the others ignore you, so you learn how to avoid taking damage from the five common enemies and you just win. Majora's Mask actually made me think a little bit more in combat situations, cause you have multiple mask forms which are useful in combat, but they're all tradeoffs and you actually have to make decisions and use your brain occasionally.

I always assumed people liked OoT for the atmosphere. (Which...OoT's atmosphere did appeal to me more than MMs).
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LinkMarioSamus posted...

Wait, are you new to the series? If you are can't fault you for using a guide on some of the frustrating parts.

The only one I've beaten is Wind Waker, which I remember being way easier than this (I also had more free time). I've played others but not to completion.
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Jakyl25 posted...

For those who had multiple like me, I wonder if the order means anything

Genesis - SNES - TurboGrafx
N64 - PS1
Dreamcast - PS2 - GameCube - Xbox
Wii - 360 - PS3
Wii U - PS4 - XBONE - Switch

Look at the rich boi ova here
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Why have we never tried to get Link of the Gorons into a character battle?
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There are already like 10 different Links and we are only allowed to group them into one
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Link of the Gorons is a totally separate character though.
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Each different Link is a totally separate character!
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Wait, are you new to the series? If you are can't fault you for using a guide on some of the frustrating parts.

The only one I've beaten is Wind Waker, which I remember being way easier than this (I also had more free time). I've played others but not to completion.

As a huge fan of Wind Waker, I agree it's really easy.
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Link the Goron >>> Link of the Gorons
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For some reason there was never a serious attempt to get Dark Link in the character battles either.
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WhiteLens posted...

For some reason there was never a serious attempt to get Dark Link in the character battles either.

Eh, people tried to push for Dark Link, Dark Samus, and Mario in the Villains Contest, but most people thought it was dumb, so it ended up not happening.
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Loving this game but the fucking N64 joystick is killing me. I hope whoever decided to coat this thing with slippery plastic is rotting in hell.
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try playing Mario Party
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Aww yeah, Zelda whack-a-mole complete

Forest Temple > Fire Temple
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Beat Forest Temple yet?

Also one thing that really surprised me on my first playthrough was, minor spoiler, that as an adult, the order you tackle the dungeons isn't static. I remember beating the Forest Temple and getting access to the Fire Temple and realizing I may have been able to do the Fire Temple first. I also did the child part of the Spirit Temple without really realizing I had 'started' the dungeon, then doing the Shadow Temple, then completing the Spirit Temple. I just thought that was what you were supposed to do until I found out otherwise later.

I thought that was really cool and kind of harkened back to the original and LttP, but I never see anyone praise the game for that.
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Yeah I'm following the in-game directions and doing Forest then Fire and now Ice.

Really digging this game, even if the camera and controls are a bit fickle.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Why have we never tried to get Link of the Gorons into a character battle?

Why haven't we tried getting Link the Goron who got his hotel reservation stolen from him into a character battle?
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OliviaTremor posted...

Beat Forest Temple yet?

Also one thing that really surprised me on my first playthrough was, minor spoiler, that as an adult, the order you tackle the dungeons isn't static. I remember beating the Forest Temple and getting access to the Fire Temple and realizing I may have been able to do the Fire Temple first. I also did the child part of the Spirit Temple without really realizing I had 'started' the dungeon, then doing the Shadow Temple, then completing the Spirit Temple. I just thought that was what you were supposed to do until I found out otherwise later.

I thought that was really cool and kind of harkened back to the original and LttP, but I never see anyone praise the game for that.

Because it's unintended? But also I've seen plenty of people talk about it.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Loving this game but the fucking N64 joystick is killing me. I hope whoever decided to coat this thing with slippery plastic is rotting in hell.

It was the first mainstream attempt at one!
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I wonder if there are any third party condom things to get a better grip
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I don't think it was unintended at all. You don't have to do any glitching or weird sequence breaking or anything. Just exploring.
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OoT was only the fourth console Zelda, so it's hardly "hearkening back" to LttP and the original that it shared similarities with them. <_<
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Looking at the series as a whole, Ocarina is basically the last Zelda to let you tackle dungeons out of order, until recently.

That's somewhat significant, though it is still more guided than previous entries, except maybe LA.
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Harkening back was the wrong term, but I used that term just because I played the game so late personally and never see anyone praise the game for letting you tackle dungeons in different orders. And it definitely doesn't seem like an unintentional sequence break.
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