Poll of the Day > i am so butthurt at work right now

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we were in our team huddle and the claim manager (my section manager's manager) was in the huddle with us. and she asked how we were handling the work load and asking about overtime.

then she pin pointed me directly. so i said i am handling my workload fine and i avoid overtime at all costs because of the work-life balance i like to achieve. i said that i prioritize my new claims and making first contact on the claims i was unable to obtain first contact on yesterday and then i just work through my queue as those tasks all are a 7 day service level objective and that i don't feel stressed or overwhelmed at all, though i know some people in the department do and are working over time.

so she starts GRILLING me. "so you don't feel the need to work any overtime?" no. "so you don't even come in 30 minutes early?" no. "so if your teammates needed help you wouldn't come in 30 minutes early?" i can help them just fine with my workload during normal work hours but if it was absolutely required or necessary to come in early to help my team i would. it's just not something i'd necessarily take upon myself to do.

and i felt like she was upset that i WASN'T drowning in the workload that we have like some people and didn't have some sob story to give about how it's all too hard.

so she comes to my desk afterwards and just says "so what do you have to do after work that is so important you just can't work overtime?"

"important? nothing. i just like to spend time with my dog and my boyfriend. and i like to decompress when i get home after work."

"does it take you very long to decompress?"

"no. it takes like 30 minutes."

then she saw my sloth calendar and said how she saw one in costa rica. i said i would like to take a vacation to costa rica to go to the sloth sanctuary and she says "well you know if you worked overtime you may be able to get there faster ;)"

okay cool i don't need to work over time. if you want to pay me almost $50/hr over time to sit on my phone or online and not do shit i can do that. or i can do it at home if you'd let us take laptops home. but i don't need to because i can get my work done fine and i'm almost literally #1 in all the service level objectives you set for our department on my team with the fastest cycle time from received to closed for my claims. there's literally no reason for me to work over time.

fuck man.
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Quit putting things in your butt.
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I'm not used to seeing a company encouraging overtime
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RCtheWSBC posted...

I'm not used to seeing a company encouraging overtime

they totally encourage it in our department but i don't need it so why am i gonna sit at my desk for an extra hour when i zero out my queue every day?

they aren't soliciting people to work overtime to help other people in our own hub so i'm not going to.
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She mad cuz you're actually productive? Weird
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idk if she was mad but she was really putting pressure on me to explain why i don't need to work over time instead of asking like what i do to be able to NOT work over time.
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I hate team-obsessed people. She's probably just trying to impress her boss(es) and needs a forceful agenda to look good...
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to me it's just like sorry i don't want to be a wage slave to your company. i already come in and do my work diligently and complete it in a timely manner without working over time. i don't feel like being here longer than 8 and a half hours a day and that's my fucking right man.
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omggg i am really not reading all of that on a friday
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She knows how much time you spend posting here during work hours.
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RCtheWSBC posted...

I'm not used to seeing a company encouraging overtime

My company is the same way, they encourage us to work as much overtime as possible to get caught up in things. I'll stay an extra hour or two on some days, hell some of my coworkers come in on Saturdays to work on issues they couldn't get to. I find it odd because we are a company that trips over a dollar to save a penny, but encourages overtime daily.
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FatalAccident posted...

omggg i am really not reading all of that on a friday

sounds like you need to use your overtime hours to read up
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SunWuKung420 posted...

She knows how much time you spend posting here during work hours.

and yet i'm still able to be #1 on my team for almost all metrics and my cycle time is the fastest.

what does that say about the people who are extremely overwhelmed that have the same claim load as me?
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I used to work a bit of overtime here and there when I worked from 7-4.

Then my boss asked me to work from 8-5 and now I purposely avoid working any amount of overtime unless absolutely necessary, which so far it hasn't been.
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I'm confused

If you get OT, I would bend over backgrounds for your manager and accept.

Work life balance is something that will hopefully be promoted in the future and actually implemented, Companies always promote it yet almost always never live up to it once hired

But if you are getting paid more money to do it she seems like she is giving you an opportunity
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Junpeiclover posted...

If you get OT, I would bend over backgrounds for your manager and accept.

Work life balance is something that will hopefully be promoted in the future and actually implemented, Companies always promote it yet almost always never live up to it once hired

i don't want to get promoted. i don't want to be in management. that's not a goal for me.

why should i bend over backwards to do overtime when i zero out my queue every day? i don't want to work any longer than i need to. that's not something i'm interested in doing.
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Jen0125 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

She knows how much time you spend posting here during work hours.

and yet i'm still able to be #1 on my team for almost all metrics and my cycle time is the fastest.

what does that say about the people who are extremely overwhelmed that have the same claim load as me?

Perhaps if you had you been #1 in all metrics this wouldn't have happened.
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jsb0714 posted...

Perhaps if you had you been #1 in all metrics this wouldn't have happened.

lol the only one i wasn't the leader in was answering the calls to my desk phone >_> i screen my calls too much.
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Jen0125 posted...

so she comes to my desk afterwards and just says "so what do you have to do after work that is so important you just can't work overtime?"

Woah there! I don't know about you, but this is a serious breach of personal boundaries to me. If I choose to punch out when the day ends, that's my prerogative and what I choose to do after that is no one's business even if it's "nothing".

This person trying to make you accountable for that is totally out of line.

Jen0125 posted...

then she saw my sloth calendar and said how she saw one in costa rica. i said i would like to take a vacation to costa rica to go to the sloth sanctuary

Oh, a literal sloth calendar. :/

I was picturing a calendar where you log the things you put off doing that day, and write down what self indulgent things you did instead.

Also, the juxtaposition of a sloth calendar in a discussion about overtime is not lost on me.

and she says "well you know if you worked overtime you may be able to get there faster ;)"

Yeah, it's on now. It might have been on a minute ago, these things can take a minute to warm up, but it's definitely on now. This bitch is being completely inappropriate bordering on unprofessional.
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...

Woah there! I don't know about you, but this is a serious breach of personal boundaries to me. If I choose to punch out when the day ends, that's my prerogative and what I choose to do after that is no one's business even if it's "nothing".

This person trying to make you accountable for that is totally out of line.

i literally told her i have NOTHING important to do. idk about you but i value my free time with my family more than i value money or being at work. would the extra money be great? sure. but if i have no free time to spend with my boyfriend and dog (while he's alive still) i'm not really living a great life to me.

Kungfu Kenobi posted...

Yeah, it's on now. It might have been on a minute ago, these things can take a minute to warm up, but it's definitely on now. This bitch is being completely inappropriate bordering on unprofessional.

i thought so too. that quip was just like a kick in the pants.

maybe i WILL work over time when i want to save to go to costa rica because i have an appreciable goal in mind that'll be worth the worklife balance trade off for a little while. but i'm not gonna work over time just because.

i really felt like she was putting me on the spot for not drinking the corporate wage slave kool aid.
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Ugh. Like "sorry I don't want to spend more time here than I have to" >_<
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Jen0125 posted...

i literally told her i have NOTHING important to do. idk about you but i value my free time with my family more than i value money or being at work.

What if doing nothing IS important? Maybe that never occurred to her.

Jen0125 posted...

i really felt like she was putting me on the spot for not drinking the corporate wage slave kool aid.

Probably felt that way because that's exactly what she's doing.
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Never had an employer that encouraged overtime

Seems dumb
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how I took it was you can expect how they do overtime to change, but she couldn't directly tell you how or why or when but wanted to push you to it so you can reap the benefits before it. changed
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well i'm gonna get paid for over time whether it's voluntary or mandatory.
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Jen0125 posted...

and i felt like she was upset that i WASN'T drowning in the workload that we have like some people and didn't have some sob story to give about how it's all too hard.

so she comes to my desk afterwards and just says "so what do you have to do after work that is so important you just can't work overtime?"

i'm almost literally #1 in all the service level objectives you set for our department on my team with the fastest cycle time from received to closed for my claims. there's literally no reason for me to work over time.

The first thing that my brain processed out of all of that, based on those few lines, is that other people in your department aren't getting their work done, and she's trying to push you into working overtime so that she can slowly push their unfinished work off on you as well.


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@Cacciato gonna get modded, smh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjJCdCXFslY
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

The first thing that my brain processed out of all of that, based on those few lines, is that other people in your department aren't getting their work done, and she's trying to push you into working overtime so that she can slowly push their unfinished work off on you as well.

that's my thought too. and to which i say i'm sorry and i try to be a team player for my team of 7 but i'm not gonna work late to try to manage the queues of everyone in this demand pool in this hub. i'm not going to punish myself for being efficient by working excessive overtime and killing my work life balance.
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RCtheWSBC posted...

@Cacciato gonna get modded, smh

I forgot about that. I was day drinking at work because it's me.

Dude >_>
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Jen0125 posted...

well i'm gonna get paid for over time whether it's voluntary or mandatory.

i mean idk i don't work there how should i know
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RCtheWSBC posted...

Dude >_>

Hey. It's a French company. They're less concerned.

Cacciato posted...

RCtheWSBC posted...

Dude >_>

Hey. It's a French company. They're less concerned.

Just because you can drink on the job, doesn't mean you should.
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helly posted...

Jen0125 posted...

well i'm gonna get paid for over time whether it's voluntary or mandatory.

i mean idk i don't work there how should i know

i was just pointing it out. i'm not salaried so i'll get paid for voluntary or mandatory over time.
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Depending on how big the company is, if overtime is encouraged it sounds to me like some piss poor management.

Create a workflow cycle that gets shit done in an equally efficient way if there's really that much work left. Workers' performance drops too if they feel like they're not getting enough time to unwind at home. But all some people see are the time clocks.

More time spent at work does not equal increased productivity.
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You got your boss comin' over; you think she came in to get out of the rain? That woman doesn't walk on the lot unless she wants to give you work. Sitting out there waiting to give you their money! Are you gonna take it? Are you woman enough to take it?
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Jen0125 posted...

fuck man.

Yeah some places expect you to not have a life outside of work. I had a shift once that was supposed to finish at a certain time but the delivery came late and we were asked to stay on longer. I simply told the manager that that's simply not possible and I got the third degree from him as to why. In the end I still finished when I originally was supposed to as that's when my shift ended. Not several hours later. I'm not against overtime but on the other side of the coin I do need to plan for it.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I simply told the manager that that's simply not possible and I got the third degree from him as to why.

This is something that has always gotten me too, and I worked for a dozen years with a guaranteed 10-15 hours of overtime a week. I schedule my life around my hours at work and that's fine, but I don't owe you any god-damned explanations for what I'm doing on my time. It's none of your damned business why I can't stay later tonight. It's none of your damned business why I can't switch shifts with someone next week. You asked. I said no. That's where the conversation should end. I work my hours and I work the overtime I'm scheduled for. We're not going to play some damned gotcha game about it. We're not doing guilt trips. I gave you 65 hours this week and that's it.
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Singled you out cause you were doing well and she expected to get the overtime answer she wanted.

Also, no one should want their workers working OT.
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What exactly do you do for a living again?
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JanwayDaahl posted...

What exactly do you do for a living again?

It sounds like something to do with insurance?
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Drpooplol posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

What exactly do you do for a living again?

It sounds like something to do with insurance?

Yes something to do with insurance.
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Are you an underwriter?
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It's because jerks like you who don't stay back to work OT that your colleagues have to stay back longer to work OT.

If you had stayed back for half an hour, then everybody could stay for only half an hour instead of you leaving on the dot, and everybody else staying for one hour.

do_ob_tpkillr posted...

It's because jerks like you who don't stay back to work OT that your colleagues have to stay back longer to work OT.

If you had stayed back for half an hour, then everybody could stay for only half an hour instead of you leaving on the dot, and everybody else staying for one hour.

0/10 for effort.
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do_ob_tpkillr posted...

It's because jerks like you who don't stay back to work OT that your colleagues have to stay back longer to work OT.

If you had stayed back for half an hour, then everybody could stay for only half an hour instead of you leaving on the dot, and everybody else staying for one hour.

Or... They could keep up on their work like Jen does and leave on time!

Drpooplol posted...

Are you an underwriter?

No I handle claims.

jsb0714 posted...

do_ob_tpkillr posted...

It's because jerks like you who don't stay back to work OT that your colleagues have to stay back longer to work OT.

If you had stayed back for half an hour, then everybody could stay for only half an hour instead of you leaving on the dot, and everybody else staying for one hour.

0/10 for effort.

Right? We don't work out of a shared queue. Your queue is not my job.
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jsb0714 posted...

0/10 for effort.

:(

I tried.

SkynyrdRocker posted...

do_ob_tpkillr posted...

It's because jerks like you who don't stay back to work OT that your colleagues have to stay back longer to work OT.

If you had stayed back for half an hour, then everybody could stay for only half an hour instead of you leaving on the dot, and everybody else staying for one hour.

Or... They could keep up on their work like Jen does and leave on time!

honestly, if they didn't care about you staying late and you got overtime pay for it, i'd probably purposefully slack a little and stay late.
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