Board 8 > is the term "trap" offensive?

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kateee
04/15/17 1:41:18 PM
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oh boy




the only time i've thought of it is as a fictional (i.e. referring to fictional characters), fetishistic term. it refers to only outward physical appearance and not to gender identity. it is not synonymous with trans.
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Bhaas1107
04/15/17 1:42:55 PM
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Liberal snowflakes get offended by anything... so yes, of
Course it's "offensive"
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ProfitProphet
04/15/17 1:42:56 PM
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greengravy294
04/15/17 1:45:30 PM
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Who cares
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MariaTaylor
04/15/17 1:47:31 PM
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everything is offensive now
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kateee
04/15/17 1:51:36 PM
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metaIslug posted...
you'd have to ask someone who is trans, no?

but my point of view has been that trap is only used to refer to fictional characters. i would never refer to a trans person as a trap because their gender identity is irrelevant in this situation.
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azuarc
04/15/17 1:52:37 PM
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MariaTaylor posted...
everything is offensive now

TRIGGER WARNING!
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trdl23
04/15/17 1:55:46 PM
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If you can give me another term to describe the boulder that almost kills Indiana Jones, be my guest.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
04/15/17 1:58:23 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWI8w9kLAks

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GuessMyUserName
04/15/17 2:02:08 PM
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if used referring to a trans person yeah because like you say they aren't the same

Trap: Bridget
Trans: Poison
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Bhaas1107
04/15/17 2:12:34 PM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
if used referring to a trans person yeah because like you say they aren't the same

Trap: Bridget
Trans: Poison



No, stop. It's not offensive snowflake...
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Airship_Canon
04/15/17 2:13:02 PM
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No
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GuessMyUserName
04/15/17 2:15:32 PM
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Bhaas1107 posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
if used referring to a trans person yeah because like you say they aren't the same

Trap: Bridget
Trans: Poison



No, stop. It's not offensive snowflake...

you sound offended
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Bhaas1107
04/15/17 2:16:42 PM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
Bhaas1107 posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
if used referring to a trans person yeah because like you say they aren't the same

Trap: Bridget
Trans: Poison



No, stop. It's not offensive snowflake...

you sound offended


Yes, I'm very offended by Sjw's being offended by everything...
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tazzyboyishere
04/15/17 2:17:19 PM
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Trap isn't really used outside of hentai is it? Either way, echoing the fact that it applies to dudes who look like girls, not actual trans people.
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GuessMyUserName
04/15/17 2:17:42 PM
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"maybe get that checked out"
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bng_mmmk
04/15/17 2:28:02 PM
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I have no idea what it means beyond the most common meaning so.......no??
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/15/17 2:28:38 PM
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Bhaas1107 posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
Bhaas1107 posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
if used referring to a trans person yeah because like you say they aren't the same

Trap: Bridget
Trans: Poison



No, stop. It's not offensive snowflake...

you sound offended


Yes, I'm very offended by Sjw's being offended by everything...


I'm marking you for offensive because you used an apostrophe where it was not appropriate or correct to use an apostrophe.
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Bhaas1107
04/15/17 2:30:28 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Bhaas1107 posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
Bhaas1107 posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
if used referring to a trans person yeah because like you say they aren't the same

Trap: Bridget
Trans: Poison



No, stop. It's not offensive snowflake...

you sound offended


Yes, I'm very offended by Sjw's being offended by everything...


I'm marking you for offensive because you used an apostrophe where it was not appropriate or correct to use an apostrophe.



I know. It bugged me too.but you can't edit.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/15/17 2:34:39 PM
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Bhaas1107 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Bhaas1107 posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
Bhaas1107 posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
if used referring to a trans person yeah because like you say they aren't the same

Trap: Bridget
Trans: Poison



No, stop. It's not offensive snowflake...

you sound offended


Yes, I'm very offended by Sjw's being offended by everything...


I'm marking you for offensive because you used an apostrophe where it was not appropriate or correct to use an apostrophe.



I know. It bugged me too.but you can't edit.


this is no excuse. the only way you can avoid being banned now is to delete your post and repost correctly without the apostrophe.
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/15/17 2:41:25 PM
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I would say trap is only really applicable for those situations where a character is presented as one gender and then they go "Surprise! I'm transgendered!" So it's a trap because you are led to believe one way in order to surprise someone with the reveal. Otherwise it's transgendered.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
04/15/17 2:42:01 PM
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kateee
04/15/17 2:42:31 PM
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tazzyboyishere posted...
Trap isn't really used outside of hentai is it?

it's been used to refer to how fictional characters (e.g. from anime/games) look so not exclusively hentai.
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mnkboy907
04/15/17 2:44:13 PM
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You may not use it for trans people but I'm sure there are people that do.
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BlueCrystalTear
04/15/17 2:44:26 PM
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You just activated my trap card, Bottomless Trap Hole! Mwhahahahaha!
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/15/17 2:46:59 PM
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
9mZfRij


I like this post.
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ZeldaTPLink
04/15/17 2:55:09 PM
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Thought this was the new pokemon route thread.
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azuarc
04/15/17 3:16:15 PM
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When this thread started, I had no idea what the potentially offensive rendition of trap was, and even after hearing it, I think it's stupid, so my real answer is "no, wtf are you talking about?"

A trap is either a mechanical device prepared to ambush someone, or it's the muscle to the side of your neck. Occasionally I might use that nomenclature to refer to the trapezoid method when teaching calculus.
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kateee
04/15/17 3:19:54 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
You may not use it for trans people but I'm sure there are people that do.

i'm sure there are. if you look at /r/traps for instance a majority of submissions is from self-identifying trans girls who have seemingly co-opted the term at least to some extent. and of course it doesn't represent all trans mindsets. but i'll still maintain the stance that it's a term used in the context of fiction that does not have to do with gender identity. like futa or dickgirl that are common enough tags but something you wouldn't use to describe a person.

but then again what about some aspects of crossdressing? if there's someone who identifies as male but crossdresses with the intent to appear "convincingly female" would that be okay to call a trap?
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GuessMyUserName
04/15/17 3:23:52 PM
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kateee posted...
but then again what about some aspects of crossdressing? if there's someone who identifies as male but crossdresses with the intent to appear "convincingly female" would that be okay to call a trap?

sounds fine with m-.... m...y... friend...

yes

my friend
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kateee
04/15/17 3:25:48 PM
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as a side note

trap x futa is the best pairing
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Wanglicious
04/15/17 4:03:58 PM
#33:


considering it's mostly used as a dude that is so convincingly a lady, nah.
even if you were to refer to it for trans people, it's honestly a compliment to say that you pass so well that you're indistinguishable from a very attractive woman.
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DeepsPraw
04/15/17 4:12:51 PM
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Wanglicious posted...
even if you were to refer to it for trans people, it's honestly a compliment to say that you pass so well that you're indistinguishable from a very attractive woman.


yeah no. Some people might not get offended, but it's a very backhanded compliment. In fact, you probably shouldn't tell any trans woman "you make a good woman". It's like saying "for an Asian girl, you're pretty cute".

Just tell them that they ARE a beautiful woman, no qualifier necessary.
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ChaosTonyV4
04/15/17 4:35:16 PM
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Torappu
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/15/17 4:43:23 PM
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DeepsPraw posted...
Wanglicious posted...
even if you were to refer to it for trans people, it's honestly a compliment to say that you pass so well that you're indistinguishable from a very attractive woman.


yeah no. Some people might not get offended, but it's a very backhanded compliment. In fact, you probably shouldn't tell any trans woman "you make a good woman". It's like saying "for an Asian girl, you're pretty cute".

Just tell them that they ARE a beautiful woman, no qualifier necessary.


what about saying "you have the most totally awesome kickass penis I've ever seen on a chick" is that a legit compliment or a backhanded one?
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paperwarior
04/15/17 5:08:31 PM
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Wanglicious posted...
considering it's mostly used as a dude that is so convincingly a lady, nah.
even if you were to refer to it for trans people, it's honestly a compliment to say that you pass so well that you're indistinguishable from a very attractive woman.

There's also the implication of deception, though. The normal meaning of trap is something you wouldn't want to walk into. I guess I think it's a fine thing to identify as, just not an identification to give to others if they don't want it.
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metroid composite
04/15/17 5:11:00 PM
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Wanglicious posted...
considering it's mostly used as a dude that is so convincingly a lady, nah.
even if you were to refer to it for trans people, it's honestly a compliment to say that you pass so well that you're indistinguishable from a very attractive woman.

I really have to disagree with this entirely due to framing.

The term "trap" is framed as such to suggest that a straight man was "trapped" into being attracted to a "man". When used on a fictional character like Bridget, sure whatever that works. When used on a trans woman it's pretty insulting for two reasons.

1. Trans women are women, not men.
2. The idea that trans women are wearing women's clothing just to screw with straight men is pretty bullshit. A significant portion of trans women are lesbians not even interested in men.

If you're thinking "but that's not what I mean when I say trap"--I'm sure you had great intentions but if you don't want to be misinterpreted, maybe you should use a term with less ambiguity?
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MysticBrohan
04/15/17 5:32:31 PM
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thought you were talking about music
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MrGreenonion
04/15/17 5:36:36 PM
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You definitely shouldn't be calling any actual people traps.
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Mac Arrowny
04/15/17 5:55:45 PM
#41:


MrGreenonion posted...
You definitely shouldn't be calling any actual people traps.


What about the transpeople who post about themselves on r/traps?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/15/17 5:58:35 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
MrGreenonion posted...
You definitely shouldn't be calling any actual people traps.


What about the transpeople who post about themselves on r/traps?


how would someone know who they are without going there?
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AdmiralZephyr
04/15/17 6:12:58 PM
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Shut your trap.
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ProfitProphet
04/15/17 6:21:17 PM
#44:


MysticBrohan posted...
thought you were talking about music


Last time I checked she was a man in these streets
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Bhaas1107
04/15/17 6:33:27 PM
#45:


metroid composite posted...
Wanglicious posted...
considering it's mostly used as a dude that is so convincingly a lady, nah.
even if you were to refer to it for trans people, it's honestly a compliment to say that you pass so well that you're indistinguishable from a very attractive woman.

I really have to disagree with this entirely due to framing.

The term "trap" is framed as such to suggest that a straight man was "trapped" into being attracted to a "man". When used on a fictional character like Bridget, sure whatever that works. When used on a trans woman it's pretty insulting for two reasons.

1. Trans women are women, not men.
2. The idea that trans women are wearing women's clothing just to screw with straight men is pretty bullshit. A significant portion of trans women are lesbians not even interested in men.

If you're thinking "but that's not what I mean when I say trap"--I'm sure you had great intentions but if you don't want to be misinterpreted, maybe you should use a term with less ambiguity?


Before this post I was indifferent and just upset at
Clowns being offended. Now I can safely safe that no one should ever use any term that isn't trap again.
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StealThisSheen
04/15/17 6:40:45 PM
#46:


Bhaas1107 posted...
metroid composite posted...
Wanglicious posted...
considering it's mostly used as a dude that is so convincingly a lady, nah.
even if you were to refer to it for trans people, it's honestly a compliment to say that you pass so well that you're indistinguishable from a very attractive woman.

I really have to disagree with this entirely due to framing.

The term "trap" is framed as such to suggest that a straight man was "trapped" into being attracted to a "man". When used on a fictional character like Bridget, sure whatever that works. When used on a trans woman it's pretty insulting for two reasons.

1. Trans women are women, not men.
2. The idea that trans women are wearing women's clothing just to screw with straight men is pretty bullshit. A significant portion of trans women are lesbians not even interested in men.

If you're thinking "but that's not what I mean when I say trap"--I'm sure you had great intentions but if you don't want to be misinterpreted, maybe you should use a term with less ambiguity?


Before this post I was indifferent and just upset at
Clowns being offended. Now I can safely safe that no one should ever use any term that isn't trap again.


You seem so upset
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Dark Young Link
04/15/17 6:43:30 PM
#47:


Bhaas1107 posted...
Liberal snowflakes get offended by anything... so yes, of
Course it's "offensive"


Bhaas1107 posted...

No, stop. It's not offensive snowflake...


Bhaas1107 posted...
Before this post I was indifferent and just upset at
Clowns being offended. Now I can safely safe that no one should ever use any term that isn't trap again.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oh2FKENMoM

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Dark Young Link
04/15/17 6:45:32 PM
#48:


Anyway if I had to guess.... maybe if it's applied to an actual person? At the very least it's probably a bit rude.
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trdl23
04/15/17 6:47:41 PM
#49:


I think it's fine if the subject isn't actually transgender but just "dude looks like a lady."

But yeah, azuarc pretty much got it that there's too much ambiguity.
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BowserCuffs
04/15/17 6:48:21 PM
#50:


Why is an insanely triggered anti-SJW posting here all of a sudden?
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