Board 8 > So my relationship with my father is essentially dead now. Ask me anything.

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User728
04/29/12 4:33:00 PM
#1:


For a brief explanation...it's been a whole lot of crap between each other...but my parents' lack of approval of my girlfriend just because she is a lot older than me is the final dagger. My mother and brother don't approve either...but at least my mother isn't an ******* about it. And my brother is just an idiot so I don't listen to anything he says either way.
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Robazoid
04/29/12 4:35:00 PM
#2:


How much older we talking? Depending on your age any of the following could be 'a lot older than you'

Highscool Senior? College girl? Cougar? MILF? GILF? GGILF?

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Dark Young Link
04/29/12 4:36:00 PM
#3:


*Nods* I'm close to there myself, if not already.

So what did he say exactly?

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Ayuyu
04/29/12 4:37:00 PM
#4:


From: User728 | #001
my girlfriend just because she is a lot older than me


Instant new best b8 user in my book.

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mnkboy907
04/29/12 4:39:00 PM
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From: Robazoid | #002
GGILF?


good game

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04/29/12 4:40:00 PM
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lol

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User728
04/29/12 4:42:00 PM
#7:


A decent friend of mine recently married someone with a similar age gap also...no problems with their relationship. Their parents apparently disliked it at first until they saw them together and saw how well they go together. And no one goes around interviewing each other on their age. We can just tell people we're 10 years apart and no one would ever know. We look about 10 years apart anyway...not 15. Like I said, no one is walking up to her and saying "hi, nice to meet you, how old are you?"
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Mershaaay
04/29/12 4:43:00 PM
#8:


pics and then I'll decide if I agree with you or your dad

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User728
04/29/12 4:43:00 PM
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From: Robazoid | #002
How much older we talking? Depending on your age any of the following could be 'a lot older than you'

Highscool Senior? College girl? Cougar? MILF? GILF? GGILF?


15 years. 25 versus 40. Extremely nice girl though...acts fun and seems like she's closer to 30 personality-wise...and really no one notices a difference between us after being around us for like 15 minutes or so when we're together. She's not the cougar type at all as far as personality is concerned.

From: Dark Young Link | #003
*Nods* I'm close to there myself, if not already.

So what did he say exactly?


Talked about cutting me out of his Will and all that stuff which is pretty funny considering all his stuff will just pass to my mother when he inevitably dies like 20 years before her. And she will never cut me out of her Will, no matter how much she disapproves.
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User728
04/29/12 4:43:00 PM
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From: Mershaaay | #009
pics and then I'll decide if I agree with you or your dad


At first I was going to say no because I thought you were Mersh. Then when I realized you were actually SephG, I decided I'll just say no just because.
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Dark Young Link
04/29/12 4:44:00 PM
#11:


Damn, getting cut off just because you have an older girlfriend? That's some bull, I mean what would that accomplish?


Granted I would of just countered with "You DO know it's my decision whatever or not you go to a nursing home right?", though I admit that's more effective when you're an only child.

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Ayuyu
04/29/12 4:44:00 PM
#12:


From: User728 | #006
15 years. 25 versus 40. Extremely nice girl though...acts fun and seems like she's closer to 30 personality-wise...and really no one notices a difference between us after being around us for like 15 minutes or so when we're together. She's not the cougar type at all as far as personality is concerned.


I'm really freaking jelly right now.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/29/12 4:48:00 PM
#13:


Mershaaay posted...
pics and then I'll decide if I agree with you or your dad

SephyG ftw

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CoolCly
04/29/12 4:48:00 PM
#14:


Pics, we must know how old she looks.



Damn Ayuyu is just weird. It's like every post I see from him is just getting progressively weirder.

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MarvelousGerbil
04/29/12 4:49:00 PM
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How old are your parents? This would be a weird age gap for me, just because my Mom was 16 when I was born, but really, if you're happy they shouldn't care as long as she's not dangerous or using you.

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GuessMyUserName
04/29/12 4:49:00 PM
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From: CoolCly | Posted: 4/29/2012 7:48:50 PM | #014
Damn Ayuyu is just weird. It's like every post I see from him is just getting progressively weirder.


this is the main thing I got from this topic

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Mershaaay
04/29/12 4:50:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure Ayuyu was a feral child for the first 10 years of his life

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Robazoid
04/29/12 4:51:00 PM
#18:


How old his parents are really won't matter I don't think. My mom freaked out at me dating a 25 year old when I was 21

Parents are weird

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LordoftheMorons
04/29/12 4:51:00 PM
#19:


Who needs their dad's approval when they can have Ayuyu's

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User728
04/29/12 4:52:00 PM
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From: Dark Young Link | #011
Damn, getting cut off just because you have an older girlfriend? That's some bull, I mean what would that accomplish?


Granted I would of just countered with "You DO know it's my decision whatever or not you go to a nursing home right?", though I admit that's more effective when you're an only child.


I was always the "good child"...my brother is even less likely to take care of them than I am. I could still use it...and I should! But yeah, my relationship with my father has dissolved over the last 5 years anyway because he is a psychopath anyway...but this pretty much will end it. My brother's wife is perfect...even though she's a ***** who doesn't even like my parents at all...it's all good. So long as she's the right age, that's all that matters apparently. My girlfriend is trying her very hardest to gain approval and to always be so nice to them (which I tell her to not try any harder than the normal amount)...but she's just awful, apparently, because she's older than me!

So...why are you basically done with your father?

From: Ayuyu | #012
I'm really freaking jelly right now.


You should be. Not because of the age difference, but because she's the most amazing girl ever. <3
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User728
04/29/12 4:55:00 PM
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From: MarvelousGerbil | #015
How old are your parents? This would be a weird age gap for me, just because my Mom was 16 when I was born, but really, if you're happy they shouldn't care as long as she's not dangerous or using you.


My parents are 58 and 60. So it's not as if they're close to the same age. And truthfully, age gap relationships are becoming more and more common. I have a cousin who married a guy 25 years older. The guy is the same age as my cousin's parents! (distant cousin). I have another distant cousin who married a woman 10 years older. Another who married a guy like 10 years older and with a kid. I have that friend who married a girl 13 years older I believe. I've spoken to like 20+ people, since I've started dating her, who know people with similar age gaps. It's not so unusual anymore.
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Mershaaay
04/29/12 5:02:00 PM
#22:


My only fear with older women is them thinking that it's okay to have a furry snatch

This ain't the 80's

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User728
04/29/12 5:03:00 PM
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From: CoolCly | #014
Pics, we must know how old she looks.


She is about 5'7", below average weight, black wavey hair down to her shoulders, always offers me oil massages, always listens to my problems and genuinely cares and tries to help me with anything/show support, will fulfill any and every one of my fetishes (awesome), actually loves cooking, won't nag about anything, will watch all my shows with me...even sports, and has been trying to get decent at video games to play with me (recently we've been playing Mario Galaxy 2). That's the best description you get of her...no pic incoming.
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User728
04/29/12 5:04:00 PM
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From: Mershaaay | #022
My only fear with older women is them thinking that it's okay to have a furry snatch

This ain't the 80's


She keeps it short...similar to how I trim mine. No bushes.
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Ayuyu
04/29/12 5:05:00 PM
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From: User728 | #023
She is about 5'7", below average weight, black wavey hair down to her shoulders, always offers me oil massages, always listens to my problems and genuinely cares and tries to help me with anything/show support, will fulfill any and every one of my fetishes (awesome), actually loves cooking, won't nag about anything, will watch all my shows with me...even sports, and has been trying to get decent at video games to play with me (recently we've been playing Mario Galaxy 2). That's the best description you get of her...no pic incoming.


Sounds like a slave almost.

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User728
04/29/12 5:07:00 PM
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From: Ayuyu | #025
Sounds like a slave almost.


Nah...she's just one of the people-pleasers. She really cares about everyone and tries to make people happy. It's her best attribute. I do plenty of great things for her too. Today I fixed her door knob, ipod, and tv...for example. She rewarded me with homemade cornbread with pieces of corn inside of it. It tasted yummy. I hope I don't ever become fat with her though...she loves cooking and I sometimes eat too much.
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MZero11
04/29/12 5:11:00 PM
#27:


The fact that your 25 and your dad is THAT concerned with who you're dating (and not even engaged or getting married) is kinda ridiculous. Just be like "at least she's not 15 years younger!"

But I've never had a relationship with my father because I haven't seen him since I was like 4 >__>

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Westbrick
04/29/12 5:13:00 PM
#28:


The only way I can imagine your parents would "disapprove" of an older girl is if things were getting serious between the two of you, in which case your parents might have a point. A 15-year gap isn't something to take lightly when choosing a life partner.

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Dark Young Link
04/29/12 5:19:00 PM
#29:


User728 posted...

So...why are you basically done with your father?


It's from a lack of support beyond money. He was pretty much the reason I became depressed during high school. Nothing I did was good enough for him, any problem I had was dismissed as an "excuse", most of the words that's came out of his mouth has basically demoralized me. The past year or so he's chosen to just be annoying as hell though. Then there's the whole....thing....about the family business that pisses me off to no end.



Hell even with his paycheck he brings in it's become more and more apparent he cares more about his drinking habit than anything else. He's not respectable, he's never bothered showing me any respect even when I still used to show him it, and I just find myself unable to find a reason why I should "care" for him besides the fact he's my father.

Bad/Whiny as all that may sound...


User728 posted...
From: CoolCly | #014
Pics, we must know how old she looks.
She is about 5'7", below average weight, black wavey hair down to her shoulders, always offers me oil massages, always listens to my problems and genuinely cares and tries to help me with anything/show support, will fulfill any and every one of my fetishes (awesome), actually loves cooking, won't nag about anything, will watch all my shows with me...even sports, and has been trying to get decent at video games to play with me (recently we've been playing Mario Galaxy 2). That's the best description you get of her...no pic incoming.



Damn, if that isn't a jackpot...

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User728
04/29/12 5:24:00 PM
#30:


From: MZero11 | #027
The fact that your 25 and your dad is THAT concerned with who you're dating (and not even engaged or getting married) is kinda ridiculous. Just be like "at least she's not 15 years younger!"

But I've never had a relationship with my father because I haven't seen him since I was like 4 >__>


Exactly....he should just be happy for me. As for your father situation...I wonder which is worse. On the one hand you barely knew your dad which is awful. On the other hand, it's not that great to know your dad and sort of lose him. Neither are good...that's for sure.
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WhoopsyDaisy
04/29/12 5:26:00 PM
#31:


Did he end it, or did you?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that ending it over something like this is a dick move, unless you're PROBABLY gonna marry this girl and they're not okay with her being a part of their family. Then you have to choose her or them, and I guess that's a judgment call only you can make.

I've had two relationships, one with a 25-year-old and one with a 31-year-old. My parents don't (at least officially) know I was dating either of them. They liked the 25-year-old and not the 31-year-old, but I didn't let it bother me because we were only together for a few months.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
04/29/12 5:28:00 PM
#32:


From: LordoftheMorons | #019
Who needs their dad's approval when they can have Ayuyu's


XFD

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User728
04/29/12 5:31:00 PM
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From: Westbrick | #028
The only way I can imagine your parents would "disapprove" of an older girl is if things were getting serious between the two of you, in which case your parents might have a point. A 15-year gap isn't something to take lightly when choosing a life partner.


Things are serious between us, and neither of us took it lightly. A lot of thought was put into it.

From: Dark Young Link | #029
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It's from a lack of support beyond money. He was pretty much the reason I became depressed during high school. Nothing I did was good enough for him, any problem I had was dismissed as an "excuse", most of the words that's came out of his mouth has basically demoralized me. The past year or so he's chosen to just be annoying as hell though. Then there's the whole....thing....about the family business that pisses me off to no end.



Hell even with his paycheck he brings in it's become more and more apparent he cares more about his drinking habit than anything else. He's not respectable, he's never bothered showing me any respect even when I still used to show him it, and I just find myself unable to find a reason why I should "care" for him besides the fact he's my father.

Bad/Whiny as all that may sound...


I've had very similar issues minus the family business and alcohol parts. But yeah...zero respect, no support in any way other than money, and demoralizing me. In the last 5 years, anytime I came to him with any problem he would just curse me off and then walk away or hang up on me. I'd say stuff like "how about being a father and helping me"...but he'd just curse me off or say things like "you have 30 seconds to talk...start now" or "I'm not helping you anymore" or anything else unhelpful. Being a father means more than just bringing home a paycheck. He thinks because he supported me, he has a free pass to take a dump on me whenever. The fact is he chose to have kids and chose to take on the responsibility of supporting us in all respects. Paying for us doesn't make him a great father, it just means he followed through with ONE of the responsibilities he chose to take on when he had children. Yes...some parents don't support the kids financially...some also beat or molest their kids. Those are bad parents. Just because he did his financial job of supporting me, doesn't mean he did me some huge favor...he just followed through with the responsibility he chose to take on. And then he failed in supporting me emotionally or in any other way...but it's cool to him since he paid the bills so that's the only thing that matters.
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User728
04/29/12 5:33:00 PM
#34:


From: WhoopsyDaisy | #031
Did he end it, or did you?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that ending it over something like this is a dick move, unless you're PROBABLY gonna marry this girl and they're not okay with her being a part of their family. Then you have to choose her or them, and I guess that's a judgment call only you can make.

I've had two relationships, one with a 25-year-old and one with a 31-year-old. My parents don't (at least officially) know I was dating either of them. They liked the 25-year-old and not the 31-year-old, but I didn't let it bother me because we were only together for a few months.


I'm probably going to marry her. Been with her for 2.5 years...though I kept it a secret for about 2 years to try and keep the peace. It kind of mutually ended because I finally stood up for her and he couldn't handle that like the idiot he is.
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VincentLauw
04/29/12 5:35:00 PM
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From: LordoftheMorons | #019
Who needs their dad's approval when they can have Ayuyu's



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Westbrick
04/29/12 5:36:00 PM
#36:


Things are serious between us, and neither of us took it lightly. A lot of thought was put into it.

Then I'd say your parents are perfectly justified in feeling concerned.

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User728
04/29/12 5:38:00 PM
#37:


From: Westbrick | #036
Things are serious between us, and neither of us took it lightly. A lot of thought was put into it.

Then I'd say your parents are perfectly justified in feeling concerned.


Putting aside that basically everyone else we've spoken to gave a "who cares" sort of reaction to our relationship...I don't actually have any issues with someone being "concerned" about it.
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Westbrick
04/29/12 5:39:00 PM
#38:


If you're not going to take the concerns of your parents (the people who raised you and care more for you than literally anyone else) seriously, then you're not nearly mature enough to get married.

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User728
04/29/12 5:42:00 PM
#39:


From: Westbrick | #038
If you're not going to take the concerns of your parents (the people who raised you and care more for you than literally anyone else) seriously, then you're not nearly mature enough to get married.


I don't think you read my post correctly. I said I DON'T have any issues with them being concerned about it. As in, concern is fine. If it was just concern, that would be awesome. And for your comment about my father raising/caring about me...I refer you to my post at 8:31:54.
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Dark Young Link
04/29/12 5:47:00 PM
#40:


Westbrick posted...
If you're not going to take the concerns of your parents (the people who raised you and care more for you than literally anyone else) seriously, then you're not nearly mature enough to get married.

Being a parent doesn't give you a "veto my child's every decision" card past age 17. Hell using that card is a dick move in the first place.

Also there's a difference between concern and being outright unreasonable.

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Theon_Greyjoy
04/29/12 5:49:00 PM
#41:


It is pretty weird to date someone that much older though. I'm 25 and used to sleep with a 45 year old (she was pretty hot seriously) but I would never date her because of the age difference

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Erugios
04/29/12 5:49:00 PM
#42:


bush > no bush IMBO

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Westbrick
04/29/12 5:53:00 PM
#43:


So do I need to be the ass who spells it out for this guy? Fine; I can play the villain.

Older single women are extremely desperate. They feel the pressures of their fading looks, and fear being alone more than anything else; many others want to make sure they have a kid before it's too late. That your woman is a "people pleaser" only confirms that she likely fits this role, so I'm sure your parents are worried that this girl cares less about you and more about filling the husband role in her life. Then there's the fact that you're in your twenties, and twenty-year-olds frequently get overly passionate about things. They're also notoriously susceptible to making dumb life decisions. If things were to go awry and a divorce became a possibility, you'd be killing yourself financially and would be investing the best years of your life in a doomed relationship. And even if a best-case scenario played out and everything worked out, the cold truth is that you'll be alone again when you're 60-70.

Maybe you're okay with all of this. And maybe you see your father as a "psychopath." But dissolving the relationship with your parents because they have legitimate concerns about your future is beyond immature.

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Robazoid
04/29/12 5:54:00 PM
#44:


Man, all you were missing was some 'beta male' comment and I'd have sworn that post was written by Ulti

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Dark Young Link
04/29/12 5:57:00 PM
#45:


So what you're saying is that every older woman is really just a baby trap and that any young man who doesn't mind older woman is being played for a fool...

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User728
04/29/12 6:03:00 PM
#46:


From: Theon_Greyjoy | #041
It is pretty weird to date someone that much older though. I'm 25 and used to sleep with a 45 year old (she was pretty hot seriously) but I would never date her because of the age difference


People also thought it was weird for two guys to date...times change though.

From: Westbrick | #043
So do I need to be the ass who spells it out for this guy? Fine; I can play the villain.

Older single women are extremely desperate. They feel the pressures of their fading looks, and fear being alone more than anything else; many others want to make sure they have a kid before it's too late. That your woman is a "people pleaser" only confirms that she likely fits this role, so I'm sure your parents are worried that this girl cares less about you and more about filling the husband role in her life. Then there's the fact that you're in your twenties, and twenty-year-olds frequently get overly passionate about things. They're also notoriously susceptible to making dumb life decisions. If things were to go awry and a divorce became a possibility, you'd be killing yourself financially and would be investing the best years of your life in a doomed relationship. And even if a best-case scenario played out and everything worked out, the cold truth is that you'll be alone again when you're 60-70.

Maybe you're okay with all of this. And maybe you see your father as a "psychopath." But dissolving the relationship with your parents because they have legitimate concerns about your future is beyond immature.


A few things:

1. She is very much not like the type of women you are describing. I have no actual way to prove this...but literally anyone who knows her would never in a million years fit her into the mold you just described. Everyone knows her to be the people pleasing type, the super sweet girl, and the type who is happy with the way things are regardless. Again, I have no way to prove it to you, but anyone who knows her already knows she is/never will be like what you just described so that's just out the window right there.

2. Girls usually live around 10 years longer than men...then add in the fact that no male in my family has ever lived beyond 75 (due to medical reasons) and we have an extreme likelihood of passing away around a similar time. So that's not much of a concern either.

3. I suspect you didn't read any of that post I referred you to. You are discussing a topic you just don't have a clue in the world about with my father. I already gave some smaller examples of it. No one thinks my dad's behavior is acceptable, my mother included. But as she always says, she's is afraid he'll yell at her if she says anything. You just shouldn't really open your mouth about topics you aren't familiar with. The guy has done nothing for me in any matter that doesn't relate to financials. Unless going to him for help and receiving immature cursing, screams, threats regarding his Will, telling me he won't help me or that I have 10 seconds to talk, etc, is deemed to be "doing something for me."
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CoolCly
04/29/12 6:04:00 PM
#47:


Westbrick, all of what you said about older women is true and is something the TC should keep in mind, but it sounds like the parent situation is about more than just them being worried she's a bad fit. Calling him immature and stuff for ignoring his parents concern is silly.

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User728
04/29/12 6:05:00 PM
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From: Dark Young Link | #045
So what you're saying is that every older woman is really just a baby trap and that any young man who doesn't mind older woman is being played for a fool...


Exactly...he doesn't have a clue what she is like. And she so isn't like what he is describing. For the record, I am infertile and she knows this and is okay with this fact. She really just loves me. She got out of an abusive relationship prior to meeting me. She just wants to be shown that she's loved...that's really it.
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