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KCF0107
04/03/12 12:13:00 PM
#1:


Rules:
- Rate from 0.1 to 10 (one decimal places is fine, more than that and I'll round for you). I'd prefer if 5 were an average rather than 7.
- You may vote for any games you want that have been rated before at any time. You may also change your vote at any time.
- No alts, no joke voting, no “purposeful downvoting” - you all know this.
- Please only vote if you've played enough of the game to be able to rate it.
- You may nominate as many games as you want on any given day. Multiple noms of the same game aren't necessary.
Spreadsheet with prior games/ratings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ap-Cxjhwem1PdFR5Wk1NUkhDX3NmM3NIU1hVaFFZY2c&hl=en_US#gid=0

Previous Game's Performance:
163. Quest 64 (5.629 / 27 votes)
164. Glover (5.578 / 14 votes)
165. Excitebike (5.536 / 19 votes)
166. Battletoads (5.513 / 23 votes)
167. Yoshi's Story (5.503 / 29 votes)

Top 10:
1. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (9.368 / 45 votes)
2. StarCraft (9.301 / 45 votes)
3. Grim Fandango (9.278 / 19 votes)
4. Assassin’s Creed II (9.226 / 30 votes)
5. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (9.203 / 31 votes)
6. Okami (9.192 / 39 votes)
7. Metal Gear Solid (9.128 / 49 votes)
8. Super Metroid (9.127 / 58 votes)
9. Valkyria Chronicles (9.080 / 20 votes)
10. Civilization IV (9.051 / 31 votes)

Bottom 10:
181. Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) (2.657 / 19 votes)
182. Elf Bowling (2.590 / 11 votes)
183. Shaq Fu (2.134 / 23 votes)
184. FarmVille (2.128 / 49 votes)
185. Lunar: Dragon Song (1.700 / 6 votes)
186. Custer’s Revenge (1.660 / 10 votes)
187. Wii Music (1.500 / 10 votes)
188. Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (0.770 / 17 votes)
189. Superman 64 (0.742 / 26 votes)
190. E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial (0.311 / 9 votes)

Excitebike finds itself sandwiched between a game about a glove protecting a bunch of balls and a game featuring two toads saving a comrade and a princess

Today's game is a life-simulation game in the popular Sim franchise

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_Harmonica_
04/03/12 12:22:00 PM
#2:


7.5

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MrsFrisby
04/03/12 12:25:00 PM
#3:


3.

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whipper
04/03/12 12:48:00 PM
#4:


7

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My Immortal
04/03/12 12:55:00 PM
#5:


9

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bospsychopaat
04/03/12 1:31:00 PM
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9

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bryans7
04/03/12 1:31:00 PM
#7:


8

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DeepsPraw
04/03/12 1:44:00 PM
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9.8

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TomNook7
04/03/12 2:23:00 PM
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Continuing from last topic

@ Lopen: Those games may be point A to point B in terms of level design, but the combat in all those games is deeper than FF13's. Because you actually interact in those worlds, which is key. There's no interaction in FF13 other than walking forward and auto-battling.

@ Advokaiser: 0 is a number and gives an existent value.

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Mershaaay
04/03/12 2:26:00 PM
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4

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KCF0107
04/03/12 4:28:00 PM
#11:


up

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malyg
04/03/12 4:30:00 PM
#12:


6

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XIII_rocks
04/03/12 4:31:00 PM
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I enjoyed it for ages but then it got boring

7/10 I guess.

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Lopen
04/03/12 5:16:00 PM
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From: TomNook7 | #009
Continuing from last topic

but the combat in all those games is deeper than FF13's


Eh shifting paradigms is pretty involved. It's definitely more involved than some of the beat em ups on that list.

But we were just talking linearity, anyway.

Anyway KCF are you going to acknowledge you were wrong on the 0.1-10 averaging/medianing to 5.0 or not. I just want you to realize that there's no mathematical basis for the minimum score change and that you're only doing it to remove low scores in a topic series where 90% of the games rated above 5.0, in spite of the opening post saying "I'd prefer if 5 were the average not 7"

I just want you to think about that for a second.

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Menji76
04/03/12 5:21:00 PM
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5

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WhiteLens
04/03/12 5:24:00 PM
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8

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Sorozone
04/03/12 5:26:00 PM
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9

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MegaWentEvil
04/03/12 5:41:00 PM
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I give The Sims a 10/10
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XIII_rocks
04/03/12 6:12:00 PM
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From: MegaWentEvil | #018
I give The Sims a 10/10


I once abused the Sims' various add-ons to lock my dog and cat into a doorless house filled with nothing but Oxygen Bars, Fireplaces, Ovens, and eight generic dudes to light the fireplace (or something). THEY BURNED, MWE. THEY BURNED.

DO YOU STILL WANT TO GIVE IT A 10?! DO YOU?!

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Raka_Putra
04/03/12 6:13:00 PM
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9

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MegaWentEvil
04/03/12 6:15:00 PM
#21:


XIII_rocks, could you please not provoke me?
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Lopen
04/03/12 6:19:00 PM
#22:


I suggest MWE's 10/10 score be removed unless he adjusts it to 9.9. He clearly hasn't completely thought of the game and clearly doesn't think it's 100% flawless.

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KCF0107
04/03/12 6:21:00 PM
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From: Lopen | #014
Anyway KCF are you going to acknowledge you were wrong on the 0.1-10 averaging/medianing to 5.0 or not.


Yeah, I forgot that when you have an even sample size, you use the average of the 50th and 51st data point and not solely the 50th

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Lopen
04/03/12 6:24:00 PM
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Actually the sample size isn't even it's odd. And now I understand that that was your mistake.

0-10 in multiples of 0.1 has 101 data points so you use the 51st not the 50th.

Anyway I take it the next topic will accept a range from 0-10 like a normal rating topic then.

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Sorozone
04/03/12 6:26:00 PM
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What is purposeful down voting anyway? Like how would you even make that call? I understand if the person has a reputation of being kind of trolly, you should discount the vote, but if that's their rep, they should just not be able to vote period.

I dunno, the whole thing of not allowing 0's anymore is dumb, imo.

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Ytterbium_70
04/03/12 7:59:00 PM
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The Sims. Good stuff.

9/10

However, this excludes the over 9000 expansion packs there are. Each one could get a rating from me, but I don't care about it enough

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KCF0107
04/04/12 7:10:00 AM
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up

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KCF0107
04/04/12 9:34:00 AM
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up

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KCF0107
04/04/12 11:20:00 AM
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up

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KCF0107
04/04/12 4:31:00 PM
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up

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TomNook7
04/04/12 6:05:00 PM
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nobody wants to vote with these rules kcf

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Advokaiser
04/04/12 8:10:00 PM
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It's preposterous that people make such a big deal about removing the 0 rating. Giving a 0 rating is like giving an un-existing vote. It's like giving a nothing to something, and that is just redundant because, well, it actually represents non-existence. Besides, a 0 to 10 scale makes a space for 101 ratings instead of 100, as Lopen mentioned, so with 101 ratings you can't have an actual exact median of 5 as an average in consequence.

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Lopen
04/04/12 11:46:00 PM
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From: Advokaiser | #032
It's preposterous that people make such a big deal about removing the 0 rating. Giving a 0 rating is like giving an un-existing vote. It's like giving a nothing to something, and that is just redundant because, well, it actually represents non-existence. Besides, a 0 to 10 scale makes a space for 101 ratings instead of 100, as Lopen mentioned, so with 101 ratings you can't have an actual exact median of 5 as an average in consequence.


What? No. The fact that you have 101 ratings is exactly why you can have an exact median of 5. If there were 100 ratings (like it is on 0.1-10) it'd be the average of 50 and 51, or 5.05.

Seriously you guys need to stop talking about math when you don't know what you're talking about

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Advokaiser
04/05/12 12:04:00 AM
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That's besides the point. The point here is that people make such a big deal about not wanting to vote if they can't use a 0 to vote, which is kind of childish considering the problem that was already mentioned about using a 0 to vote.

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foolm0ron
04/05/12 12:05:00 AM
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Lopen
04/05/12 12:13:00 AM
#36:


That's completely the point because that's the only good reason (if it, you know, made sense) to kill off the 0. Any other argument against 0s can also be applied to 10s, and b8 abuses 10s a lot more than 0.

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thundersheep
04/05/12 12:16:00 AM
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9/10

Only because The Sims 2 exists.

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foolm0ron
04/05/12 12:24:00 AM
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Okay so how about we allow 0s back in, and just upconvert all of them to 0.1s without telling anyone, and downconvert 10s to 9.9?

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KCF0107
04/05/12 5:56:00 AM
#39:


From: foolm0ron | #068
Okay so how about we allow 0s back in, and just upconvert all of them to 0.1s without telling anyone


I can almost guarantee you that someone will call me out on that

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neonreaper
04/05/12 6:32:00 AM
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Advokaiser posted...
It's preposterous that people make such a big deal about removing the 0 rating. Giving a 0 rating is like giving an un-existing vote. It's like giving a nothing to something, and that is just redundant because, well, it actually represents non-existence. Besides, a 0 to 10 scale makes a space for 101 ratings instead of 100, as Lopen mentioned, so with 101 ratings you can't have an actual exact median of 5 as an average in consequence.

Big Rigs is a 0/10, it's an unfinished disaster that barely has any gameplay. The only argument against Big Rigs getting a 0/10 is that it shouldn't be considered a game at all (ie not able to be rated). I think it's BS to allow a 10/10 for Custer's but then say people who give Big Rigs a 0/10 are lazy while admitting to never having "played" it. I also don't want to be solicited for my rating and then having it changed for a very poor reason.

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evilevi13
04/05/12 11:35:00 AM
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8/10

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TomNook7
04/05/12 5:46:00 PM
#42:


neonreaper posted...
Big Rigs is a 0/10, it's an unfinished disaster that barely has any gameplay.


nice comma splice

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KingButz
04/05/12 5:51:00 PM
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7/10

Very innovative and still holds up after all this time.

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