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KamikazePotato
07/18/11 10:39:00 PM
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Canceled Megaman Universe
Canceled Megaman Legends 3
RE: Mercenaries 3DS's save file issue
Released RE: Mercenaries 3DS
DmC design
Quick SF4/MvC3 expansions
Expensive costume DLC
Games for Windows Live on PC titles
Releasing RE4 for the 5th time (GCN, PS2, PC, iOS, now 360/PS3)
Dead Rising 2 $40 expansion
Monster Hunter ports and expansions out the ass
No AA Investigations 2
No US announcement for Layton vs AA
Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 DRM issue

I remember everyone adoring them in 2008-9, me included. They've always had some fuzzy moments, but it was never this bad.

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Justin_Crossing
07/18/11 10:41:00 PM
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capcom and square are just sinking

so fast

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/11 10:43:00 PM
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S***ting on balance for AE and MvC3.

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Psycho_Kenshin
07/18/11 10:43:00 PM
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I dig Super Street Fighter IV and MVC3, so Capcom's done some good lately.

Ha, also I just went to check out Capcom on wikipedia, looks like the article is vandalized at the moment.

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WazzupGenius00
07/18/11 10:44:00 PM
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From: KamikazePotato | #001
Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 DRM issue


also Final Fight Double Impact same issue
and the SSFIVAE for PC DRM issue but they ended up actually changing their minds on that one

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ZFS
07/18/11 10:44:00 PM
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I dunno, Capcom's business decisions have seemed pretty consistent for years. They've always been into re-releases and ports and expansions.

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GANON1025
07/18/11 10:47:00 PM
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That's a pretty bad list imo. I mean why is RE4 HD so bad? =/

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GuessMyUserName
07/18/11 10:47:00 PM
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Mega Man 10 in-game DLC unlocks

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KamikazePotato
07/18/11 10:47:00 PM
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ZFS posted...
I dunno, Capcom's business decisions have seemed pretty consistent for years. They've always been into re-releases and ports and expansions.

Yeah, but they were still good, which is why people didn't care. Capcom's game quality has been extremely spotty lately, and that's added to the other extra problems they've been having. And now they're canceling games. There are currently 0 Mega Man games in development. And they didn't have anything as expansiony as a $40 version of The Mercenaries.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/18/11 10:48:00 PM
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Don't forget the lack of content and support MvC3 got.

Only so they can release the far superior version of it a year later.

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ZFS
07/18/11 10:51:00 PM
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Yeah, I'd agree that they're not making as many interesting games today. They've slipped a bit since SF4, but I don't think Capcom as a business has changed much. Hard to think of a Capcom game I'm looking forward to, though!

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/11 10:51:00 PM
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YetAnothrShadow posted...
Don't forget the lack of content and support MvC3 got.

Only so they can release the far superior version of it a year later.


Hey now, we get CHALLENGES.

And SHADOW BATTLES. (Which you have to pay for)

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GuessMyUserName
07/18/11 10:52:00 PM
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man I remember when they were hyping up the DLC they were going to put into MvC3, then it turned out to be nothing but Shadow Battles and trash

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Psycho_Kenshin
07/18/11 10:54:00 PM
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Street Fighter X Tekken is one Capcom game I'm looking forward to. But yeah, haven't had a single-player Capcom game interest me in a while, RE5 being the most recent one.

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ZFS
07/18/11 10:54:00 PM
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shadow battles is this as bad as it sounds

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GuessMyUserName
07/18/11 10:55:00 PM
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From: ZFS | Posted: 7/19/2011 1:54:19 AM | #015
shadow battles is this as bad as it sounds


it's basically paying for those titles you unlock in Street Fighter 4

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/18/11 10:56:00 PM
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You pay money to fight a team of Ryu, Chun Li and Viper, Morrigan, Felicia and Hsien-Ko and Wesker, Chris and Jill for a dollar!

I wish I was kidding :{

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Lopen
07/18/11 10:57:00 PM
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Shadow Battles are cool. They're like specialized AIs you can fight.

But not for money.

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Natwaf_akidna
07/18/11 10:59:00 PM
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Never released here, IIRC.

Or something about them not interested in releasing it outside of Japan.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/18/11 11:00:00 PM
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ZFS posted...
shadow battles is this as bad as it sounds

Shadow Battles are essentially vs CPU mode because they thought they'd make a few extra bucks from charging a dollar for themed CPU battles.

But you can win titles from it! And considering your fighter card is going to be the most viewed thing from you online, since the game sacrificed spectator mode for " Watch the cards hump and grind each other " mode, I'd say it's pretty good deal!

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WarThaNemesis2
07/18/11 11:01:00 PM
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Wait what happened to AAI2?

Edit: Also anyone who is surprised by SF4/MvC3 being changed/whored out apparently hasn't heard of Mega Man or, you know, Street Fighter pre-4.

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Demon HunterX
07/18/11 11:04:00 PM
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i mean no offense to anyone who loved capcom, but capcom hasnt been a good company since like....2003.

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Lopen
07/18/11 11:04:00 PM
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I'd actually consider buying Shadow Battles if it was like 20 distinct fights for $1. As is it's like, 3 battles for $1? Give me a break.

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TheCodeisBosco
07/18/11 11:05:00 PM
#25:


Justin_Crossing posted...
capcom and square are just sinking

so fast


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LinkMarioSamus
07/18/11 11:07:00 PM
#26:


Justin_Crossing posted...
capcom and square are just sinking

so fast


Is it ironic that I completed my first games from these two companies all in the last four months?

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LinkMarioSamus
07/18/11 11:07:00 PM
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Demon HunterX posted...
i mean no offense to anyone who loved capcom, but capcom hasnt been a good company since like....2003.

Okami?

Super Street Fighter IV?

RESIDENT EVIL 4???

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YetAnothrShadow
07/18/11 11:08:00 PM
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Demon HunterX posted...
i mean no offense to anyone who loved capcom, but capcom hasnt been a good company since like....2003.

They've still released games that peaked peoples interests though. And they're treatment of fans wasn't even remotely as bad as it is now.

Now they just **** on fans and their franchises hoping to squeeze a buck out of them. And the worst part about it?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/609524-resident-evil-the-mercenaries-3d/reviews

Fans are oblivious to it or just in plain denial.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/18/11 11:09:00 PM
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their*

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GuessMyUserName
07/18/11 11:09:00 PM
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From: LinkMarioSamus | Posted: 7/19/2011 2:07:54 AM | #027
Demon HunterX posted...
i mean no offense to anyone who loved capcom, but capcom hasnt been a good company since like....2003.

Okami?

Super Street Fighter IV?

RESIDENT EVIL 4???


you've only played RE4, how can you chime in here

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WazzupGenius00
07/18/11 11:09:00 PM
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From: LinkMarioSamus | #026
Justin_Crossing posted...
capcom and square are just sinking

so fast


Is it ironic that I completed my first games from these two companies all in the last four months?


. . . no. That's not irony at all.

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WazzupGenius00
07/18/11 11:12:00 PM
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From: WarThaNemesis2 | #020
Edit: Also anyone who is surprised by SF4/MvC3 being changed/whored out apparently hasn't heard of Mega Man or, you know, Street Fighter pre-4.


Street Fighter I'll give ya, but at least the yearly Mega Man titles (those Pokemon-style Battle Network and Star Force games with the two/three separate versions being the exception) were different games with completely different levels, weapons, and enemies.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/18/11 11:14:00 PM
#33:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
WazzupGenius00 posted...
From: LinkMarioSamus | #026
Justin_Crossing posted...
capcom and square are just sinking

so fast

Is it ironic that I completed my first games from these two companies all in the last four months?
. . . no. That's not irony at all.

Well they were Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, and Resident Evil 4 so...yeah.

It's going to be hilarious playing through FINAL FANTASY VII and Xenogears in the next few months right the fall of Square continues before our very eyes.


Do you like.. Not even know what irony is?

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LinkMarioSamus
07/18/11 11:14:00 PM
#34:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
From: LinkMarioSamus | #026
Justin_Crossing posted...
capcom and square are just sinking

so fast

Is it ironic that I completed my first games from these two companies all in the last four months?
. . . no. That's not irony at all.


Well they were Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, and Resident Evil 4 so...yeah.

It's going to be hilarious playing through FINAL FANTASY VII and Xenogears, both blind, in the next few months right as the fall of Square continues before our very eyes.

The closest thing I've done is...play through Super Metroid a week after Other M's release. That felt so surreal it wasn't even funny.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/18/11 11:15:00 PM
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Obviously not.

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WarThaNemesis2
07/18/11 11:19:00 PM
#36:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
Street Fighter I'll give ya, but at least the yearly Mega Man titles (those Pokemon-style Battle Network and Star Force games with the two/three separate versions being the exception) were different games with completely different levels, weapons, and enemies.


I was more talking about NES-era Mega Man, but even the Battle Network and Star Force stuff started getting whored out too.

Double Edit: Oh, I see what you're trying to get at, but whoring out is still whoring out. They're 'different', sure, but NES Mega Man is pretty much the poster child for whoring out a series.

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GuessMyUserName
07/18/11 11:19:00 PM
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From: WarThaNemesis2 | Posted: 7/19/2011 2:16:14 AM | #036
WazzupGenius00 posted...
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #020
Edit: Also anyone who is surprised by SF4/MvC3 being changed/whored out apparently hasn't heard of Mega Man or, you know, Street Fighter pre-4.
Street Fighter I'll give ya, but at least the yearly Mega Man titles (those Pokemon-style Battle Network and Star Force games with the two/three separate versions being the exception) were different games with completely different levels, weapons, and enemies.


I was more talking about NES-era Mega Man, but even the Battle Network and Star Force stuff started getting whored out too.


But they were still different whole games, so I don't see what the problem is!

it's pretty different than Super Street Fighter 4, Arcade Edition, Super Marvel vs Capcom 3, and Dead Rising 2: Off the Record

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The Real Truth
07/18/11 11:19:00 PM
#38:


Justin_Crossing posted...
capcom and square are just sinking

so fast


Great post of truth here. Two of what were the best companies, now kind of suck. I mean Capcom still has some good stuff, but the quality has gone down drastically. You'll find all that quality at Platinum Games now.

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WazzupGenius00
07/18/11 11:21:00 PM
#39:


See, I'm of the viewpoint that if the games are good and reasonably different (which the NES games are), I don't care if they're "whored out" or whatever other evil motivation a for-profit company has for making them.

Honestly I'd still say Street Fighter 2 has Mega Man beat there anyway.

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Anagram
07/18/11 11:24:00 PM
#40:


Viewtiful Joe 3 :(

I still can't believe Capcom has the balls to cancel his series after both games promise a third game, but still put him in crossover games.

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WarThaNemesis2
07/18/11 11:24:00 PM
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Street Fighter II being more whored out does not change the fact that NES Mega Man is the poster child for something being whored out. Heck, Street Fighter II is just applying what they did with NES Mega Man to fighting games!

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Dauntless Hunter
07/18/11 11:25:00 PM
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With Street Fighter 2 I feel like it was a little different. Companies couldn't really put out balance patches back in those days. A new version of a game was the only way to tweak it and maintain the community.

Like really, SF2's multiple versions felt like a way to support and sustain the community, rather than attempts to suck the community dry like what Capcom is doing today.

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Xiahou Shake
07/18/11 11:30:00 PM
#43:


Capcom really does need to straighten themselves out. If they go full cloister mode (keep doing what they've been doing for the last 2 years), they're going to be the company to prove that Inafune was right about the Japanese game industry.

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Demon HunterX
07/18/11 11:32:00 PM
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Resident Evil 4 is great and all, but if you think it, okami, and sf4 hold a candle to the greatness of capcom pre 2004ish.....then lol. Even if u consider RE4 the best game ever made, 3 games dont make a company a top company over 8 years.

Maybe capcom would be better if they stopped with all the ports and remakes, and actually take their existing franchises in one direction (instead of half assing mega man into what seems like 5 different genres).

Capcom would also be better off if they stopped abusing DLC, and created new franchises that are changes of pace from the genres of their already existing major franchises.

DLC is probably the dumbest thing about this gen, and this gen has some horribly dumb things about it.

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WarThaNemesis2
07/18/11 11:38:00 PM
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DLC is a fine concept, but the problem is that gamers put the value of fancy clothing at $5, and as such why should companies make DLC that's actually worthwhile and/or a true expansion?

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Demon HunterX
07/18/11 11:43:00 PM
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DLC is a fine concept, but the problem is that gamers put the value of fancy clothing at $5, and as such why should companies make DLC that's actually worthwhile and/or a true expansion?

dlc is another one of those in theory good, in practice bad.

Just like when companies merge. Like how many of us first though square enix was gonna be great having the 2 biggest RPG companies merge into one super company.

Or how the G4 and TechTV merger ruined a decent channel in old G4, and ruined an amazing channel in TechTV?

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YoboD
07/18/11 11:43:00 PM
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They gave us Ghost Trick, so they can't be that bad.

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07/18/11 11:44:00 PM
#48:


Be completely fair, there are a few companies that do DLC right, like Bioware. I hate DAO, but the one thing it did really, really well was DLC that actually deserved to be DLC and wasn't too blatant a money grab.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/18/11 11:47:00 PM
#49:


Demon HunterX posted...
Even if u consider RE4 the best game ever made, 3 games dont make a company a top company over 8 years.

It does if you're LMS!

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Demon HunterX
07/18/11 11:51:00 PM
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Be completely fair, there are a few companies that do DLC right, like Bioware. I hate DAO, but the one thing it did really, really well was DLC that actually deserved to be DLC and wasn't too blatant a money grab.

bioware is ok with its DLC i guess. I wouldnt say they "do it right", they just dont **** it up at capcom levels.

As much as the series/genre was beaten into the ground, i always though the guitar hero games actually also had semi-fair DLC. Maybe a little pricey, but they didnt make their DLC stupid stuff like "omg new outfit for slash lookalike!". Too bad Guitar Hero sucked past 3.

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