Poll of the Day > What's the most powerful country in the world?

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Whats the most powerful country in the world?

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nice troll bro

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Other: USA

Noop_Noop posted...

nice troll bro

blu posted...

Other: USA

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its 100% Israel

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Of that list, China

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Wakanda, duh

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Lol, out of that list, military wise, China, influence wise, Israel.

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It's time for Canada to conquer the planet. Spill syrup and whisky, not blood and tears.

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Nauru

Tiny island nation in the Pacific that's an ecological disaster. No one in the right mind would want to fuck with them.

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US, but they're not capable of utilising it.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

US, but they're not capable of utilising it.

Wow, this might be the nicest thing Kyuubi has ever said about America.

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SirPikachu posted...

Lol, out of that list

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Fire nation

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Obvious trolling aside, china actually is

Donkey Kong

Sarcasthma posted...

Wow, this might be the nicest thing Kyuubi has ever said about America.

Ikr? Jesus.

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Militarily? USA.

Political influence? USA.

Economic power? Probably still the USA

If it's a question of who's second, that's a little harder. The frontrunners would probably be Germany, China, and Russia. Germany has a strong economy and influence within the EU (while its military is on the weaker side, the EU is structured in a way that makes it less of an issue than it might be for other nations). China has the world's largest economy, one of the strongest militaries, and considerable influence within its region. Russia has probably the world's second-strongest military as well as having enough power and influence that NATO is a thing.

As for the other options listed:

-France is a little hard to judge, although it falls behind many other options so it's not really in the running.

-The UK is small and, even before Brexit, it had less influence in Europe than Germany.

-Japan has a relatively limited self-defense military. The nation has repeatedly protested reestablishing its military.

-Canada's military is relatively weak for a G8 nation and its economy is behind other options

-Australia iirc doesn't rank among the world's top economies and it's not a contender for having the strongest military.

-Israel is a wealthy nation, but it's a relatively small nation and has limited influence due to the EU's support for antisemitic policies. The fact that Jerusalem isn't universally recognized as the capital of Israel shows its lack of influence.

-India has one of the world's largest economies and a reasonably strong military. However, in many regards it's inferior to China because it's exerting influence in the same sphere, has a weaker military, etc.

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China controls nearly all manufacturing and basically owns our pharmaceutical industry. They could at anytime cut us off from a ton of life saving drugs.

All those that have unsubscribed to the idea of countries. One Country, One Earth.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

All those that have unsubscribed to the idea of countries. One Country, One Earth.

Ignoring reality isnt power lol

faramir77 posted...

It's time for Canada to conquer the planet. Spill syrup and whisky, not blood and tears.

Canada is a failed experiment ready to be sold to the highest bidder.

BC, AB, and Sask will be sold to the US, after Vancouver gets occupied by China.

Quebec will be sold off to France, because who cares about the French anyways...

Manitoba will be Ontario's "D.U.F.F"....while Ontario itself can still pretend Canada exists, and nothing is wrong.

Alaska will absorb the Yukon...and the NWT will be given back to the natives to be the nation they always wanted anyways.

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Zeus posted...

If it's a question of who's second, that's a little harder. The frontrunners would probably be Germany, China, and Russia.

lol, no

maybe 50 years ago, but not today

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Canada is second because Richmond.

Zeus posted...

Militarily? USA.

Lol.

-Canada's military is relatively weak for a G8 nation and its economy is behind other options

You can just come out and say it - its terrible.

-Japan has a relatively limited self-defense military. The nation has repeatedly protested reestablishing its military.

I dont blame them. History shows theyre more than capable of defending themselves.

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zebatov posted...

Lol

United States does have the most powerful military by far the

OhhhJa posted...

Ignoring reality isnt power lol

> claims to understand reality
> thinks like a human

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America has the biggest economy, the biggest military, and the biggest cultural impact out of every country, everyone else is vying for 2nd overall even if they surpass America in 1 thing

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blu posted...

Other: USA

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Sarcasthma posted...

Wow, this might be the nicest thing Kyuubi has ever said about America.

How is that nice? The US wastes vasts amounts on the military and they use it to buy up whatever shit shows up. It uses power as a substitute for being a respectable nation, and only got there by exploiting a global atrocity then spending the next 70 years pillaging 3rd world nations (inefficiently). Can't beat Vietnam, can't beat Iran, just sits on nukes they're not allowed to use to restrict retaliation (poorly).
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OhhhJa posted...

United States does have the most powerful military by far the

By far the.

Chinese military almost double the population that the US military does.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

How is that nice? The US wastes vasts amounts on the military and they use it to buy up whatever shit shows up. It uses power as a substitute for being a respectable nation, and only got there by exploiting a global atrocity then spending the next 70 years pillaging 3rd world nations (inefficiently). Can't beat Vietnam, can't beat Iran, just sits on nukes they're not allowed to use to restrict retaliation (poorly).

@Sarcasthma
Look what you went and did.

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zebatov posted...

By far the.

Chinese military almost double the population that the US military does.

@Sarcasthma
Look what you went and did.

Having more canon fodder doesn't make them a better military

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OhhhJa posted...

China controls nearly all manufacturing and basically owns our pharmaceutical industry. They could at anytime cut us off from a ton of life saving drugs.

The tariff war has driven a considerable amount of the US's manufacturing needs to surrounding nations and, in general, China's economy largely revolves around producing things for other nations which (while typical of developing nations) makes it more vulnerable that those of developed nations.

Mead posted...

lol, no

maybe 50 years ago, but not today

Are you posting from the year 2070?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/world-most-powerful-countries-ranking-change-a8438711.html

zebatov posted...

Lol.

Are you disputing that the US has the world's strongest military?

zebatov posted...

I dont blame them. History shows theyre more than capable of defending themselves.

What? Right now they're relying on US military, which has bases throughout Japan. And back when Japan was active militarily, they spent far more time attacking than defending.

Japan was decimated by the US at the end of WWII and cowed into submission. Because Japan was largely removed from armed conflict after that time (when the US became its primary protector) and, because it's been removed for so long, the idea of fully rearming is unpopular. (Granted, people will point to other cultural trends as well, but that's kind of a sub-discussion.)

Kyuubi4269 posted...

The US wastes vasts amounts on the military and they use it to buy up whatever shit shows up.

It overspends (or at least spends more than others), but most of that spending isn't waste.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It uses power as a substitute for being a respectable nation,

It is a respectable nation.

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Zeus posted...

It overspends (or at least spends more than others), but most of that spending isn't waste.

It's keeping lockheed martin afloat and poor people off the street, I guess.

Personally I consider pissing millions in to the OICW and SCAR projects a waste.
And the wars in the Middle East that were outright counter productive.
And sacrificing a generation to Vietnam.

It's not exactly a smart money operation.

Zeus posted...

It is a respectable nation.

Not outside the US.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

only got there by exploiting a global atrocity then spending the next 70 years pillaging 3rd world nations (inefficiently).

What? If you're claiming they "exploited" WWII, it's a claim that doesn't make any sense. The US was in a better state at the end of the war because the battles had largely taken place in other nations. They benefited from the rest of the world having hardship, but there was nothing to "exploit"

As for its involvement in the third-world, it paled in comparison to the activities *prior* to WWII. I'm not sure what you consider "inefficiencies" although I suspect you consider overt colonialism an "efficiency" and are knocking the US for not just conquering the nations then looting them.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Can't beat Vietnam, can't beat Iran, just sits on nukes they're not allowed to use to restrict retaliation (poorly).

The US could easily beat Vietnam and Iran even without nukes.

zebatov posted...

Chinese military almost double the population that the US military does.

Although your point is very poorly phrased, I'm assuming it refers to China's number of troops. The problem there is that ground troops haven't won wars since... well, it's been quite a while.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Personally I consider pissing millions in to the OICW and SCAR projects a waste.
And the wars in the Middle East that were outright counter productive.
And sacrificing a generation to Vietnam.

It's not exactly a smart money operation.

So basically you think that unless a war is profitable, it's wasteful? >_> Unless you're taking over the land and government, wars generally aren't going to be directly profitable.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Not outside the US.

Really drinking the kool-aid there.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Zeus posted...
It is a respectable nation.

Not outside the US.

Uhh every country has skeletons in their closet

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Zeus posted...

What? If you're claiming they "exploited" WWII, it's a claim that doesn't make any sense. The US was in a better state at the end of the war because the battles had largely taken place in other nations. They benefited from the rest of the world having hardship, but there was nothing to "exploit"

Profiteering off a fight they were duty-bound to join to the point of making "allies" fail from being completely scammed for basic supplies. Their greed and insistence to force Japan to get it's oil from them forced Japan to enter the war, instigating further atrocities.

Zeus posted...

I'm not sure what you consider "inefficiencies" although I suspect you consider overt colonialism an "efficiency" and are knocking the US for not just conquering the nations then looting them.

Take the objective and fuck right off ASAP, not propagate a false war to keep the military industrial complex relevant. The point of war to force a conclusion ASAP, it is not to keep fighting and spend their excess soldiers.

Zeus posted...

The US could easily beat Vietnam and Iran even without nukes.

Explains why they failed to make ground.

Zeus posted...

So basically you think that unless a war is profitable, it's wasteful? >_> Unless you're taking over the land and government, wars generally aren't going to be directly profitable.

Wars are explicitly for profit. Without profit there's no motive and no end. The US failed to achieve a profitable conclusion every single time it's warred since WWII.

Zeus posted...

Really drinking the kool-aid there.

Says the 'murican claiming Drumpf's personal playground is respectable.
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Muscles posted...

Uhh every country has skeletons in their closet

The problem is the US so many skeletons it looks more like a mass grave in a shipping container.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

How is that nice? The US wastes vasts amounts on the military and they use it to buy up whatever shit shows up. It uses power as a substitute for being a respectable nation, and only got there by exploiting a global atrocity then spending the next 70 years pillaging 3rd world nations (inefficiently). Can't beat Vietnam, can't beat Iran, just sits on nukes they're not allowed to use to restrict retaliation (poorly).

Lmao. How did you not get his comment

Kyuubi4269 posted...

The problem is the US so many skeletons it looks more like a mass grave in a shipping container.

somehow the Brit ended up on a positive history soapbox?

Cacciato posted...

somehow the Brit ended up on a positive history soapbox?

We made you.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

We made you.

By oppressing to the point where we overthrew you

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Mead posted...

Wakanda, duh

Which version? Some have had serious economic problems

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

How is that nice? The US wastes vasts amounts on the military and they use it to buy up whatever shit shows up. It uses power as a substitute for being a respectable nation, and only got there by exploiting a global atrocity then spending the next 70 years pillaging 3rd world nations (inefficiently). Can't beat Vietnam, can't beat Iran, just sits on nukes they're not allowed to use to restrict retaliation (poorly).

I didnt say it was nice. I said it was the nicest thing youve said about the US.

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afrodude77 posted...

Which version? Some have had serious economic problems

Wakanda, duh

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Kyuubi4269 posted... Profiteering off a fight they were duty-bound to join to the point of making "allies" fail from being completely scammed for basic supplies.

What?

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Their greed and insistence to force Japan to get it's oil from them forced Japan to enter the war, instigating further atrocities.

It's like you never heard about Pearl Harbor. Your alternative history is hilarious.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Take the objective and fuck right off ASAP, not propagate a false war to keep the military industrial complex relevant. The point of war to force a conclusion ASAP, it is not to keep fighting and spend their excess soldiers.

What the fuck are you talking about? None of that made a lick of sense. Probably because you fundamentally don't understand the kinds of wars the US has been fighting in recent decades. More importantly, by your "logic," the US should just drop a nuke on every nation it fights with.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Explains why they failed to make ground.

What?

Wars are explicitly for profit.

No, they're not.

Without profit there's no motive and no end.

Also untrue.

The US failed to achieve a profitable conclusion every single time it's warred since WWII.

Highly unlikely.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Says the 'murican claiming Drumpf's personal playground is respectable.

>Talks about respectability
>References Drumpf meme

And what country are you from again?

Kyuubi4269 posted... We made you.

So our skeletons are merely an extension of your skeletons.

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Zeus posted...

Are you disputing that the US has the world's strongest military?

One would be stupid not to. China factually has a larger military and it would be naive to assume they dont have the same technology. If they Chinese military deployed like the US does they would decimate any country they invaded.

What? Right now they're relying on US military, which has bases throughout Japan. And back when Japan was active militarily, they spent far more time attacking than defending.

Japan was decimated by the US at the end of WWII and cowed into submission. Because Japan was largely removed from armed conflict after that time (when the US became its primary protector) and, because it's been removed for so long, the idea of fully rearming is unpopular. (Granted, people will point to other cultural trends as well, but that's kind of a sub-discussion.)

The US forced them into the situation theyre in now by testing bombs and flexing. The US did the same to Germany. Why Italy was left alone I have no idea. I guess without Germany and Japan, Italy doesnt offer much. Japan is more than capable of defending itself. And the US basically does the same thing in the way of attacking.

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Left off #1 choice. So either 1. Trolling or 2. did it on purpose. If on purpose because we all know USA is #1 then the easy 2nd choice on the list is China.

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weak bait
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